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Living For Today · 05-22-2003, 05:58 PM

My mate runs a business selling plasma screens and the like. A few days ago there was an auction for a 60 inch panasonic plasma screen with no reserve. The seller had positive 980 feedback. We put a bid in of $1.000 and watched the item. It got up to $3,000 and then got pulled. I emailed the seller and she is in Italy and said she got her account suspended for trading outside of ebay to avoid fees.

Now its just impossible for us to believe this cannot be a scam. She is offering us the TV for 1500 euros which is about AU$2700.

This TV sells for AU$30,000 plus. I said if she sells it for that place then I will fly over to milan to inspect the tv and take it home with me.

Here is the email I got back.

Ok you can come here to take up you plasma but first i must see that you have the money and i dont lose my time and my buyers to waiting you to come in Milano so lock here is my deal
So just send the money there through Western Union
but instead of sending the money to my name send the money using your best friends name, your fathers name or just use your own name as the receiver. (Ex. Sender Name: My name, Receiver Name: My name- send the money to yourself).After you will make the transfer you will receive a MTCN [money transfer control number] but you will not give me the MTCN.Without the transfer on my name and wýtih out the MCTN [money transfer control number] i can not pick up the money.This way nobody in the world other than you could ever pick up the money.After that you will e-mail me the SENDER NAME and the RECEIVER NAME to allow me to verify online if the money are sent.(www.westernunion.com). When you will come to Milano you will pick up the money and pay me.Let me know your decision asap.

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I cant figure out how she will scam me out of my bling bling $$$. Its just impossible to believe. Whats your opinions?

Jake · 05-22-2003, 06:02 PM

Yup - its a scam!

Machete_ · 05-22-2003, 06:02 PM

if she is selling a $30000 at $3000 there is somethinh rotten about it - might kill you when you get there or something

Living For Today · 05-22-2003, 06:04 PM

can anyone actually see how she is going to scam me though? is there a western union loophole?

Living For Today · 05-22-2003, 06:05 PM

and maybe if there is someone from milano here i could get them to check out the plasma.

stocktrader23 · 05-22-2003, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by Living For Today
can anyone actually see how she is going to scam me though? is there a western union loophole?

I doubt it. Why don't you call them and find out.

nap · 05-22-2003, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by Living For Today
My mate runs a business selling plasma screens and the like. A few days ago there was an auction for a 60 inch panasonic plasma screen with no reserve. The seller had positive 980 feedback. We put a bid in of $1.000 and watched the item. It got up to $3,000 and then got pulled. I emailed the seller and she is in Italy and said she got her account suspended for trading outside of ebay to avoid fees.

Now its just impossible for us to believe this cannot be a scam. She is offering us the TV for 1500 euros which is about AU$2700.

This TV sells for AU$30,000 plus. I said if she sells it for that place then I will fly over to milan to inspect the tv and take it home with me.

Here is the email I got back.

Ok you can come here to take up you plasma but first i must see that you have the money and i dont lose my time and my buyers to waiting you to come in Milano so lock here is my deal
So just send the money there through Western Union
but instead of sending the money to my name send the money using your best friends name, your fathers name or just use your own name as the receiver. (Ex. Sender Name: My name, Receiver Name: My name- send the money to yourself).After you will make the transfer you will receive a MTCN [money transfer control number] but you will not give me the MTCN.Without the transfer on my name and wýtih out the MCTN [money transfer control number] i can not pick up the money.This way nobody in the world other than you could ever pick up the money.After that you will e-mail me the SENDER NAME and the RECEIVER NAME to allow me to verify online if the money are sent.(www.westernunion.com). When you will come to Milano you will pick up the money and pay me.Let me know your decision asap.

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I cant figure out how she will scam me out of my bling bling $$$. Its just impossible to believe. Whats your opinions?

well once you send the money and confirm that you are the only person able to retrieve the money, they will either
a) have an inside job at one of the western unions so that they can just pick up the money.
b) have enough information about making fake ids that they can make an authentic form of identification(seeing as how they have done this scam, they probably know exactly what information they will need).

this is a scam.

Living For Today · 05-22-2003, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by nap

well once you send the money and confirm that you are the only person able to retrieve the money, they will either
a) have an inside job at one of the western unions so that they can just pick up the money.
b) have enough information about making fake ids that they can make an authentic form of identification(seeing as how they have done this scam, they probably know exactly what information they will need).

this is a scam.

thats enough info for me.

Living For Today · 05-22-2003, 06:15 PM

Hey guys! I found this great deal on plasma screens. You can get in contact with this girl at [email protected]

Happy plasma hunting

asuna · 05-22-2003, 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by Living For Today
Hey guys! I found this great deal on plasma screens. You can get in contact with this girl at [email protected]

Happy plasma hunting

yahoo.es? for sure it's not a scam!

notjoe · 05-22-2003, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by Living For Today
My mate runs a business selling plasma screens and the like. A few days ago there was an auction for a 60 inch panasonic plasma screen with no reserve. The seller had positive 980 feedback. We put a bid in of $1.000 and watched the item. It got up to $3,000 and then got pulled. I emailed the seller and she is in Italy and said she got her account suspended for trading outside of ebay to avoid fees.

Now its just impossible for us to believe this cannot be a scam. She is offering us the TV for 1500 euros which is about AU$2700.

This TV sells for AU$30,000 plus. I said if she sells it for that place then I will fly over to milan to inspect the tv and take it home with me.

Here is the email I got back.

Ok you can come here to take up you plasma but first i must see that you have the money and i dont lose my time and my buyers to waiting you to come in Milano so lock here is my deal
So just send the money there through Western Union
but instead of sending the money to my name send the money using your best friends name, your fathers name or just use your own name as the receiver. (Ex. Sender Name: My name, Receiver Name: My name- send the money to yourself).After you will make the transfer you will receive a MTCN [money transfer control number] but you will not give me the MTCN.Without the transfer on my name and wýtih out the MCTN [money transfer control number] i can not pick up the money.This way nobody in the world other than you could ever pick up the money.After that you will e-mail me the SENDER NAME and the RECEIVER NAME to allow me to verify online if the money are sent.(www.westernunion.com). When you will come to Milano you will pick up the money and pay me.Let me know your decision asap.

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I cant figure out how she will scam me out of my bling bling $$$. Its just impossible to believe. Whats your opinions?

Yes there is a WU Loophole and let me explain to you how it works. Some fucker almost took me for close to 2K but i decided against it.

I wanted to buy a laptop of this guy and he wanted me to do almost the samething as you're doing. However, WU cannot promise the funds will not be released to the person, even if you put a password on the Transfer.

This means that as long as transfer is made to the persons name there is a very good chance they will be able to pick up the funds without actually having any additional information, other than the name of the receiver. This is mostly dependant on the WU Agent they are dealing with.

If they say that you dont have to put their name as the receiver then it would be completely pointless as you would have to resend the money to them in their name for them to be able to collect it.

Go pull out 3K, take a picture of it and tell her you will come down to pick it up. If she says no then tell her to fuckoff. If she was serious about selling the TV and it wasnt a scam why wouldnt she mind you flying down there on your own time to pick it up?

I know if someone offered to fly down to buy something of mine, with CASH MONEY and i really had what i was selling i would be all over that shit. I rather the entire amount instead of paying someone a % of the transfer.

nap · 05-22-2003, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by Living For Today

thats enough info for me.

glad to keep someone from being scammed.

Living For Today · 05-22-2003, 06:27 PM

Well I pretty much knew it was a scam. I was interested in how she was going to scam the money off me.

And the only reason I gave her any credibility was before she got cancelled from ebay she had 990 positive feedback.

robfantasy · 05-22-2003, 06:32 PM

man, dont do it, havent u seen scarface.

05-22-2003, 06:34 PM

dude think about this situation

your a hardcore seller
you sell fucking 50 items a day
after 10 days you have 500 feedback

now you need some quick cash
you take advantage of your good reputation to sell THE MOST EXPENSIVE THING that you can sell that wouldnt need inspection...

car? house? land?
no

PLASMA TV THAT RETAILS 30 000$

easy 5-10 000$ cash in paypal, close your ebay account, open a new one with a new CC

that or its not a scam

SPIKE326 · 05-22-2003, 06:35 PM

It is possible that this woman could know someone at Western Union, which is why she insists on you choosing them. So if the woman knows a worker at WU and has the proper verification code, then there is nothing stopping her from getting the money, Considering that she is a far distance from yourself, she may have the belief that you will never spend another $3000 just to get back $3000.

greentea · 05-22-2003, 06:37 PM

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And the only reason I gave her any credibility was before she got cancelled from ebay she had 990 positive feedback.

she was using a stolen account! that is the reason her account got cancelled.

nap · 05-22-2003, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by Living For Today
Well I pretty much knew it was a scam. I was interested in how she was going to scam the money off me.

And the only reason I gave her any credibility was before she got cancelled from ebay she had 990 positive feedback.

do you know how easy it is to get a persons password(epsecially considering on aol you can make an ebay user name at kw:ebay)? havent you seen the scam sites for paypal/ebay/aol? some are very convincing. just think if you spam aol members for ebay accounts and no other isp. 26 million potential ebayers, if you spam 500k in a day at the least 10% will be an ebay seller, and of that 10% at least or less would be an ebay power seller. of that 1% thats more than enough accounts to last for an entire year of doing just high end scams. not to mention that people are actually FALLING for that scam right now. say the guy had 10 people still emailing him, at least 2 out of those 10 will send the 3k. now thats 6k off of a 19.95 first free month aol account. now the scammer has the ability to buy more junk, build up another power seller account(or use a stolen ebay acc.) and do the same scam just under a different category.

asuna · 05-22-2003, 06:42 PM

from what I read, you were to give that girls name, as the 'sender' and your name as the receiver, so you can collect and apy her, so she can go to western union and say hi i sent 3K to mr porn guy, but the deal fell tru, here is my ID, can I have my money back? thanks! *RUNS LIKE A BITCH*

Rich · 05-22-2003, 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by Living For Today
Well I pretty much knew it was a scam. I was interested in how she was going to scam the money off me.

And the only reason I gave her any credibility was before she got cancelled from ebay she had 990 positive feedback.

So did the Shae's. Scammers build up good feedback with $5 purchases, then they go hog wild selling big ticket items they don't have.

psyko514 · 05-22-2003, 09:12 PM

point her to www.escrow.com and tell her that's the only way you'll do the transaction.

detoxed · 05-22-2003, 09:22 PM

how hard is it to get an ebay account? For $1 per feedback you can buy hacked ebay accounts. Hah, have faith in Ebay everyone, the more feedback the better. There is even a loophole. You can get the password for ebay accounts by choosing the forgot password option on ebay, and re-register an expired email address. Good luck scammers.

DatingGold · 05-22-2003, 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
how hard is it to get an ebay account? For $1 per feedback you can buy hacked ebay accounts. Hah, have faith in Ebay everyone, the more feedback the better. There is even a loophole. You can get the password for ebay accounts by choosing the forgot password option on ebay, and re-register an expired email address. Good luck scammers.

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My boy is smart! name the movie...

Yeah dude its a scam, anything over WU overseas is most likely a scam.

05-22-2003, 05:58 PM	#1
Living For Today Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,970	ebay scam? My mate runs a business selling plasma screens and the like. A few days ago there was an auction for a 60 inch panasonic plasma screen with no reserve. The seller had positive 980 feedback. We put a bid in of $1.000 and watched the item. It got up to $3,000 and then got pulled. I emailed the seller and she is in Italy and said she got her account suspended for trading outside of ebay to avoid fees. Now its just impossible for us to believe this cannot be a scam. She is offering us the TV for 1500 euros which is about AU$2700. This TV sells for AU$30,000 plus. I said if she sells it for that place then I will fly over to milan to inspect the tv and take it home with me. Here is the email I got back. Ok you can come here to take up you plasma but first i must see that you have the money and i dont lose my time and my buyers to waiting you to come in Milano so lock here is my deal So just send the money there through Western Union but instead of sending the money to my name send the money using your best friends name, your fathers name or just use your own name as the receiver. (Ex. Sender Name: My name, Receiver Name: My name- send the money to yourself).After you will make the transfer you will receive a MTCN [money transfer control number] but you will not give me the MTCN.Without the transfer on my name and wýtih out the MCTN [money transfer control number] i can not pick up the money.This way nobody in the world other than you could ever pick up the money.After that you will e-mail me the SENDER NAME and the RECEIVER NAME to allow me to verify online if the money are sent.(www.westernunion.com). When you will come to Milano you will pick up the money and pay me.Let me know your decision asap. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I cant figure out how she will scam me out of my bling bling $$$. Its just impossible to believe. Whats your opinions?

05-22-2003, 06:32 PM	#14
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05-22-2003, 06:42 PM	#19
asuna Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,743	from what I read, you were to give that girls name, as the 'sender' and your name as the receiver, so you can collect and apy her, so she can go to western union and say hi i sent 3K to mr porn guy, but the deal fell tru, here is my ID, can I have my money back? thanks! RUNS LIKE A BITCH __________________

05-22-2003, 09:12 PM	#21
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05-22-2003, 06:02 PM	#2
Jake Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CO, US Posts: 3,056	Yup - its a scam!

05-22-2003, 06:02 PM	#3
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	if she is selling a $30000 at $3000 there is somethinh rotten about it - might kill you when you get there or something

05-22-2003, 06:04 PM	#4
Living For Today Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,970	can anyone actually see how she is going to scam me though? is there a western union loophole?

05-22-2003, 06:05 PM	#5
Living For Today Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,970	and maybe if there is someone from milano here i could get them to check out the plasma.

05-22-2003, 06:15 PM	#9
Living For Today Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,970	Hey guys! I found this great deal on plasma screens. You can get in contact with this girl at [email protected] Happy plasma hunting

05-22-2003, 06:27 PM	#13
Living For Today Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,970	Well I pretty much knew it was a scam. I was interested in how she was going to scam the money off me. And the only reason I gave her any credibility was before she got cancelled from ebay she had 990 positive feedback.

05-22-2003, 06:34 PM	#15
buddyjuf Guest Posts: n/a	dude think about this situation your a hardcore seller you sell fucking 50 items a day after 10 days you have 500 feedback now you need some quick cash you take advantage of your good reputation to sell THE MOST EXPENSIVE THING that you can sell that wouldnt need inspection... car? house? land? no PLASMA TV THAT RETAILS 30 000$ easy 5-10 000$ cash in paypal, close your ebay account, open a new one with a new CC that or its not a scam

05-22-2003, 06:35 PM	#16
SPIKE326 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 257	It is possible that this woman could know someone at Western Union, which is why she insists on you choosing them. So if the woman knows a worker at WU and has the proper verification code, then there is nothing stopping her from getting the money, Considering that she is a far distance from yourself, she may have the belief that you will never spend another $3000 just to get back $3000.

05-22-2003, 09:22 PM	#22
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	how hard is it to get an ebay account? For $1 per feedback you can buy hacked ebay accounts. Hah, have faith in Ebay everyone, the more feedback the better. There is even a loophole. You can get the password for ebay accounts by choosing the forgot password option on ebay, and re-register an expired email address. Good luck scammers.