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applejacks · 05-21-2003, 10:11 PM

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AaronM · 05-21-2003, 10:31 PM

If they came through then I would let it go. If they did not and it does not look like they will then I would make others aware of it.

To date, I know I have had 3 projects that did not work out as planned. And a 4th that has taken longer than expected but the client was made aware of this possibility before hand.

The first one was Darren and I asked him what would make him happy. He asked for additional exclusive sets and he got it.

The 2nd person is not even worthy of me mentioning his name but anybody who closely followed that bullshit knows that it was a case of the client not sticking to the original verbal agreements, telling me to keep monies for kill fees and then bitching about it later and threatening to sue me...Which he never did because he had no case.

The 3rd one of them was after a model had agreed to do a shoot and I even paid her in advance because she had been fairly reliable in the past. The model then had some personal issues that I posted about in this thread which kept her from doing the shoot. I ended up shooting another model instead but the client was still not 100% satisfied so I gave some extra stuff and promised that I would shoot this model for him free of charge if she ever showed up again. Since then she has shot repeatedly for Unseenworld but not for any of the 3 photographers that she owes advanced money to.

And the 4th us Paul-C. Great guy who has been VERY patient with me. I actually finished shooting the project last week and am encoding the video this very minute.

I have been repeatedly attacked on GFY and have had a certain prior client attempt to drag my name through the mud on MANY occasions but guess what? I still shoot content, I still do everything within my power to make sure my clients are happy, people from GFY still contact me to do work for them, and I am still busy enough that I need to refer clients to others from time to time in order for them to get the best service possible.

My point here is that sometimes, shit really does happen. It is up to you to decide if it is bullshit or not. On one hand, posting about it may cost the person some business but on the other hand, people may also take his side once he replies and that may cost you some embarrassment.

That's my long winded

Enjoy it.

AaronM · 05-21-2003, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
And the 4th us Paul-C. Great guy who has been VERY patient with me. I actually finished shooting the project last week and am encoding the video this very minute.

P.S. Even though Paul has not asked for anything extra, I still intend to shoot some bonus stuff for him anyway. Paul has been an ongoing client of mine for over a year and I intend to keep it that way. Plus, he is a good friend...even though he wears a fucking skirt.

kaylacam · 05-21-2003, 10:41 PM

Keep in mind, too...sometimes things get slowed down because of an unreliable model. I have had to reschedule THREE times this week to work around a flakey model (who will NOT be used again...I found a cute little hottie who is a virgin to this biz to shoot with next time...IF there is a next time)

pnor · 05-21-2003, 11:53 PM

Just expose'em, if they cannot stick to their word, clients will know it and on the other side they'll have the chance to explain what happened. Love those lame excuses!

And I have lotsa popcorn ready for upcoming drama

TheVTheP · 05-21-2003, 11:55 PM

no no , let `em cheat ya again , blah what a question

Paul Markham · 05-22-2003, 12:03 AM

Post it and you look like a bad guy.

Keep it quiet and the competition suffers the same fate.

You call it.

psyko514 · 05-22-2003, 12:11 AM

line em up on a wall and shoot 'em

The Other Steve · 05-22-2003, 01:10 AM

Good points all round - but ultimately it comes down to what happens after the revenge. The on going flames are just going to waste your time.

Far better to never use them again and let it be known among your frieds privately that these guys are just not professional enough to do business with.

Ross · 05-22-2003, 03:35 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM

P.S. Even though Paul has not asked for anything extra, I still intend to shoot some bonus stuff for him anyway. Paul has been an ongoing client of mine for over a year and I intend to keep it that way. Plus, he is a good friend...even though he wears a fucking skirt.

Yeah Paul might not mind but I want my fucking movies bitch!!!

hehe kidding. I know your doing whatever you can to get us our movies shot. Don' worry we know you're good for content! If we don't get it then it gives me an excuse to come over to your house and kick you ass...... oh and party!!!

As for the skirt comment? You love it!

AaronM · 05-22-2003, 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by Ross
..... If we don't get it then it gives me an excuse to come over to your house and kick you ass...... oh and party!!!

Keep threatening me like that and you may never get the final video.

Paul -C- · 05-29-2003, 02:37 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM
And the 4th us Paul-C. Great guy who has been VERY patient with me. I actually finished shooting the project last week and am encoding the video this very minute.

I keep telling you there's no rush

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Plus, he is a good friend...even though he wears a fucking skirt.

I only wear it cos you love tearing it off me, you big sexy bitch you.

Theo · 05-29-2003, 02:51 AM

Paul-C's soccer team sucks ass, I wouldn't do any business with him because of this. If you can't do well in Scotland why the hell are you dreaming the championsleague.....

Theo · 05-29-2003, 02:53 AM

Regarding the topic the problem arise very often from the ones reffering people they do not know or for a small commision they get.

calvin · 05-29-2003, 03:13 AM

Sometimes crap happens and if someone is going to miss a deadline, I'd be more forgiving if they had kept me informed rather than have me going and asking why they didn't make the deadline. Communication is key

Paul -C- · 05-30-2003, 01:50 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
Paul-C's soccer team sucks ass,

And your team is...? I'm just back from Rodos btw, I didn't know Greece was a 3rd world country. I had a good time though. I was looking for you but didn't see you

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05-22-2003, 01:10 AM	#59
The Other Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sunny Queensland - perfect one day and better the next. Posts: 2,106	Good points all round - but ultimately it comes down to what happens after the revenge. The on going flames are just going to waste your time. Far better to never use them again and let it be known among your frieds privately that these guys are just not professional enough to do business with. __________________ Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

05-21-2003, 10:31 PM	#52
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	If they came through then I would let it go. If they did not and it does not look like they will then I would make others aware of it. To date, I know I have had 3 projects that did not work out as planned. And a 4th that has taken longer than expected but the client was made aware of this possibility before hand. The first one was Darren and I asked him what would make him happy. He asked for additional exclusive sets and he got it. The 2nd person is not even worthy of me mentioning his name but anybody who closely followed that bullshit knows that it was a case of the client not sticking to the original verbal agreements, telling me to keep monies for kill fees and then bitching about it later and threatening to sue me...Which he never did because he had no case. The 3rd one of them was after a model had agreed to do a shoot and I even paid her in advance because she had been fairly reliable in the past. The model then had some personal issues that I posted about in this thread which kept her from doing the shoot. I ended up shooting another model instead but the client was still not 100% satisfied so I gave some extra stuff and promised that I would shoot this model for him free of charge if she ever showed up again. Since then she has shot repeatedly for Unseenworld but not for any of the 3 photographers that she owes advanced money to. And the 4th us Paul-C. Great guy who has been VERY patient with me. I actually finished shooting the project last week and am encoding the video this very minute. I have been repeatedly attacked on GFY and have had a certain prior client attempt to drag my name through the mud on MANY occasions but guess what? I still shoot content, I still do everything within my power to make sure my clients are happy, people from GFY still contact me to do work for them, and I am still busy enough that I need to refer clients to others from time to time in order for them to get the best service possible. My point here is that sometimes, shit really does happen. It is up to you to decide if it is bullshit or not. On one hand, posting about it may cost the person some business but on the other hand, people may also take his side once he replies and that may cost you some embarrassment. That's my long winded Enjoy it.

05-21-2003, 11:53 PM	#55
pnor Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 110	Just expose'em, if they cannot stick to their word, clients will know it and on the other side they'll have the chance to explain what happened. Love those lame excuses! And I have lotsa popcorn ready for upcoming drama

05-21-2003, 11:55 PM	#56
TheVTheP So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Beyond the invisible Posts: 83	no no , let `em cheat ya again , blah what a question

05-29-2003, 02:51 AM	#63
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Paul-C's soccer team sucks ass, I wouldn't do any business with him because of this. If you can't do well in Scotland why the hell are you dreaming the championsleague.....

05-29-2003, 02:53 AM	#64
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Regarding the topic the problem arise very often from the ones reffering people they do not know or for a small commision they get.

05-29-2003, 03:13 AM	#65
calvin Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: atl Posts: 9	Sometimes crap happens and if someone is going to miss a deadline, I'd be more forgiving if they had kept me informed rather than have me going and asking why they didn't make the deadline. Communication is key