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BlueDesignStudios · 05-02-2003, 01:14 AM

Got my Xbiz newletter today, and saw these guys took out an advertising spot: http://www.goodthinxxcash.com

So I checked out their portfolio of sites - I almost fell of my seat.

Below are just a few of their sites, compared to ones my crew has designed for clients such as Maxcash & ARS.

WTF are these guys doing??? They've also stolen designs from the crew @ webinc, and I would bet that other designers have been ripped off as well!

Q: What Action should I take?

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BlueDesignStudios · 05-02-2003, 01:14 AM

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NBDesign · 05-02-2003, 01:16 AM

I was offered a job here a little while back with a company in Tempe that wanted me to scam design from other profitable sites. I refused because I just will nto do that.

It is a compliment in a way, but is also suck too.

BlueDesignStudios · 05-02-2003, 01:17 AM

I forgot to mention - sites on the left are the ones that have been design by Us (Bluedesignstudios.com) and the ones on the right are the ones that look a little too similar - what do you think?

ry0t · 05-02-2003, 01:18 AM

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Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
I forgot to mention - sites on the left are the ones that have been design by Us (Bluedesignstudios.com) and the ones on the right are the ones that look a little too similar - what do you think?

I think your companies designs are splendid and this fakers designer sucks at design. Crumby knockoffs haha

galleryseek · 05-02-2003, 01:18 AM

yep those are rip offs alright. some more than others obviously.

BlueDesignStudios · 05-02-2003, 01:19 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign
I was offered a job here a little while back with a company in Tempe that wanted me to scam design from other profitable sites. I refused because I just will nto do that.

It is a compliment in a way, but is also suck too.

Yes I guess the upside is that it is a compliment, but it's just not on, it's stealing IP from me, as well as stealing the sites from some of the most respectable names on the net :BangBang

NBDesign · 05-02-2003, 01:20 AM

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Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
I forgot to mention - sites on the left are the ones that have been design by Us (Bluedesignstudios.com) and the ones on the right are the ones that look a little too similar - what do you think?

They are all showing top and bottom to me.... are yours on top?

BlueDesignStudios · 05-02-2003, 01:21 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

They are all showing top and bottom to me.... are yours on top?

The ones that link of to my domain: bluedesignstudios.com are the ones done by us - my guess is that this is the top one for you

boneprone · 05-02-2003, 01:21 AM

Nice designs.

d0se · 05-02-2003, 01:22 AM

Thats fucked bluedood...

BTW i got your icq from Stu (I'm also a perth guy) - ill be sure to call if i ever need any design done...

Ozi ozi ozi!

NBDesign · 05-02-2003, 01:23 AM

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Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios

The ones that link of to my domain: bluedesignstudios.com are the ones done by us - my guess is that this is the top one for you

That would have been my guess, they are a bit nicer. More balanced. Good work.

NBDesign · 05-02-2003, 01:25 AM

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Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios

Yes I guess the upside is that it is a compliment, but it's just not on, it's stealing IP from me, as well as stealing the sites from some of the most respectable names on the net :BangBang

Yes, that is totally uncool.

Babaganoosh · 05-02-2003, 01:26 AM

Oh shit, total ripoffs. Don't fuck around, get an attorney.

Brujah · 05-02-2003, 01:30 AM

Dude.. just tell us they didn't touch the jelly beans!

Splinter · 05-02-2003, 01:31 AM

except for the teen one, most of those look different enough that you probably have no case.

BlueDesignStudios · 05-02-2003, 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by Brujah
Dude.. just tell us they didn't touch the jelly beans!

The Jelly Beans are safe

Rest Assured Mate

TheMob · 05-02-2003, 01:38 AM

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Originally posted by Splinter
except for the teen one, most of those look different enough that you probably have no case.

I agree.. Porn sites all look the same now anyways and sewing them will probably just cost a lot of money. However you should send them an invoice for each and every design at a "reseller price". Also add a fine for not paying before using them... They might just pay

Rich · 05-02-2003, 01:44 AM

Brutal, sue 'em.

Roald · 05-02-2003, 01:46 AM

Sue their ass

RaiDeN · 05-02-2003, 01:50 AM

Nice work on the initial designs,

But the right ones are a TOTAL ripoff..
Contact them first though.

Could be a designer of them who took your pages as an example but the owner didnt know about it.

(im not into their companies structure, but it could be an option)

Iff not, Sue their ass.

stocktrader23 · 05-02-2003, 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by Splinter
except for the teen one, most of those look different enough that you probably have no case.

Are you blind or retarded?

BlueDesignStudios · 05-02-2003, 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

Are you blind or retarded?

Both??

poorwebmaster · 05-02-2003, 01:58 AM

Welcome To The Fuckin' Internet - Quit Complaining and make money - sue and you lose dough

funkmaster · 05-02-2003, 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by Splinter
except for the teen one, most of those look different enough that you probably have no case.

... call me blind and retarted too, but I agree with splinter. they look similar, but they are no blantant copies ... you have no case here and you won´t have any chance if you sue them.

Pappa · 05-02-2003, 02:05 AM

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Originally posted by funkmaster

... call me blind and retarted too, but I agree with splinter. they look similar, but they are no blantant copies ... you have no case here and you won´t have any chance if you sue them.

You're blind and retared too

Sue the bastards

OsirisID · 05-02-2003, 03:37 AM

All of the ones listed with the exception of the two Asian designs look similiar.. The asian one doesn't even come close to Ex. Asians.

Mr Pheer · 05-02-2003, 03:50 AM

If this went to court and i was on the jury...
I'd have to say they are different enough to not be copies

His designs are obviously based on yours, no question about that
But, not outright copies. They changed enough on thier pages so that even though they used your page as a model, they didnt outright copy anything.

Machete_ · 05-02-2003, 04:04 AM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Oh shit, total ripoffs. Don't fuck around, get an attorney.

what he said

Gutterboy · 05-02-2003, 04:08 AM

If it was just one or two designs, the coincidental similarities among pornsite tours excuse might get them a pass, but there is an obvious pattern of abuse that you'd have to be stupid not to see.

Sue 'em.

BlueDesignStudios · 05-02-2003, 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy
If it was just one or two designs, the coincidental similarities among pornsite tours excuse might get them a pass, but there is an obvious pattern of abuse that you'd have to be stupid not to see.

Sue 'em.

I agree, and if you check out their site portfolio, there are a lot there that look very similar to webinc's

European Lee · 05-02-2003, 04:06 PM

How many sponsor programs do you know that handle their own in-house designs?

Chances are, they outsourced this design work to someone and the designer they used did the rip-offs.

Goodthinxx are good people and i am positive they wouldnt knowingly rip-off other designs

Regards,

Lee

booker · 05-02-2003, 04:08 PM

Raw deal man.. they certainly look like ripoffs to me.

I'd send 'em a firm email, let 'em know you're onto their game and if they don't pull it down immediately you'll take legal action.

OR.. you could offer a settlement, you gotta figure they paid a decent amount to have someone do those rips, maybe they'll be willing to pay you a few grand if you let them use what they have and not rip off future designs? It might work out for you in the end.. $2k for 3 emails. Ya never know.

MCsteve-matrix · 05-02-2003, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by galleryseek
yep those are rip offs alright. some more than others obviously.

exactly... some are very apparent ripoffs. shit like this makes me wanna puke.

those who can't innovate, immitate.

RRRED · 05-02-2003, 04:13 PM

So... are they cheaper than you, Andrew?

PR_Phil · 05-02-2003, 04:16 PM

I vote complete rip off, 7 out of 8 times, and partial rip off 1 out of 8.

Sly_RJ · 05-02-2003, 04:18 PM

Haha. Most are even rips of the same niche. WTF?

If you're going to steal, make sure you'll get away with it. Geesh!

NetRodent · 05-02-2003, 04:30 PM

Most of those look like direct rip-offs. However, before you attack Goodthinxx, you might want consider the possiblity that they are unaware the designs are copied.

We had an in house designer for about a year who we later learned had copied most of the work he did for us from other people.

KRL · 05-02-2003, 05:10 PM

I wouldn't even bother contacting the designers that ripped you off, since they probably are lightweights if this is their modus operandi and have no cash. Instead go to the companies they did the work for since they have the most to lose here. Ask them to pay you for the use of your copied designs.

AdultNex · 05-02-2003, 06:43 PM

Try suing them.

If you think they ripped your design, you haven't seen true design rips. ;)

A few of them are merely just inspired off your design. They're not "rips".

Seriously though, as others have stated, contact them and tell them to immediately switch the designs. If they ignore you, take legal action.

cj-design · 05-02-2003, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios

more to come...

That is the worst! I cant believe they nicked your designs!

cj-design · 05-02-2003, 06:57 PM

voice your opinions like I did:
http://www.goodthinxxcash.com/contactus/contactus.php

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-02-2003, 07:08 PM

To funny.
Sorry to see this. Not necesarily the design matches. It just sad, that Designers enmasse downgrade themselves in value and pay and are so underpaid that they need to meet a production line criteria that almost forces them to tag designs off other designers.

Design is the most difficult aspect of the industry shoulder to shoulder with the business mind that lights the candle.

When will designers arise and realise there value in the business.

Answer.
NEVER.

Nina · 05-02-2003, 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by NetRodent
Most of those look like direct rip-offs. However, before you attack Goodthinxx, you might want consider the possiblity that they are unaware the designs are copied.

We had an in house designer for about a year who we later learned had copied most of the work he did for us from other people.

very good point.

It sucks that someone ripped off your work. But Goodthinxxx is a good company and I doubt they knew that this was happening.

Have you contacted them yet? What was their response?

SomeCreep · 05-02-2003, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by MrPheer
If this went to court and i was on the jury...
I'd have to say they are different enough to not be copies

His designs are obviously based on yours, no question about that
But, not outright copies. They changed enough on thier pages so that even though they used your page as a model, they didnt outright copy anything.

Yep, I agree. Looks like they created all those graphics on their own, based on yours. They didnt take your actual images and change them or incorporate them into their sites. Your only argument would be "they're stealing the look and feel". I'm not an attorney, so I dont know how that would hold up in court, but I'd say that wouldnt be enough to actually get compensation from that other company.

49thParallel · 05-02-2003, 07:40 PM

Well, if nothing else, I believe I have just discovered a new niche to promote...Porn for Visually Impaired Webmasters....

How can any of you even say for a second that the offending designer did not blatantly and deliberately copy the original designs.

I just can't figure out why the other company/designer finds the need to copy. He obviously has the photoshop skills to create his own work.

Mutt · 05-02-2003, 07:44 PM

many are blatant rippoffs. Demand this Goodthinxxx company give you the name of the design company. Goodthinxxx could be completely innocent bystanders.

wait until Todd finds out, he won't stand for it at all if the Webinc knockoffs are as bad as these are. Post some of the Webinc side by side comparisons.

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BlueDesignStudios Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 9,492	I forgot to mention - sites on the left are the ones that have been design by Us (Bluedesignstudios.com) and the ones on the right are the ones that look a little too similar - what do you think? __________________ Blue Design Studios - Adult Design Specialists! Email me for a free quote: [email protected]

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galleryseek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,234	yep those are rip offs alright. some more than others obviously.

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d0se Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Western Australia Posts: 1,225	Thats fucked bluedood... BTW i got your icq from Stu (I'm also a perth guy) - ill be sure to call if i ever need any design done... Ozi ozi ozi!

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Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Dude.. just tell us they didn't touch the jelly beans! __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

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Splinter Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4	except for the teen one, most of those look different enough that you probably have no case.

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Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	Brutal, sue 'em.

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RaiDeN Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 496	Nice work on the initial designs, But the right ones are a TOTAL ripoff.. Contact them first though. Could be a designer of them who took your pages as an example but the owner didnt know about it. (im not into their companies structure, but it could be an option) Iff not, Sue their ass.

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OsirisID Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Loserana Posts: 629	All of the ones listed with the exception of the two Asian designs look similiar.. The asian one doesn't even come close to Ex. Asians. __________________ http://www.lhcmedia.com Digital Advertising and Sales Funnels

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Mr Pheer Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,110	If this went to court and i was on the jury... I'd have to say they are different enough to not be copies His designs are obviously based on yours, no question about that But, not outright copies. They changed enough on thier pages so that even though they used your page as a model, they didnt outright copy anything. __________________ 2 lifeguards for Jessica

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Gutterboy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dis Posts: 4,751	If it was just one or two designs, the coincidental similarities among pornsite tours excuse might get them a pass, but there is an obvious pattern of abuse that you'd have to be stupid not to see. Sue 'em.

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European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	How many sponsor programs do you know that handle their own in-house designs? Chances are, they outsourced this design work to someone and the designer they used did the rip-offs. Goodthinxx are good people and i am positive they wouldnt knowingly rip-off other designs Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

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booker Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Baltimore Posts: 1,370	Raw deal man.. they certainly look like ripoffs to me. I'd send 'em a firm email, let 'em know you're onto their game and if they don't pull it down immediately you'll take legal action. OR.. you could offer a settlement, you gotta figure they paid a decent amount to have someone do those rips, maybe they'll be willing to pay you a few grand if you let them use what they have and not rip off future designs? It might work out for you in the end.. $2k for 3 emails. Ya never know. __________________ Xanadu024 (aim) or 286785389 (icq) "Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard."

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RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	So... are they cheaper than you, Andrew?

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PR_Phil Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: knee deep in dirty diapers Posts: 1,960	I vote complete rip off, 7 out of 8 times, and partial rip off 1 out of 8. __________________

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Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	Haha. Most are even rips of the same niche. WTF? If you're going to steal, make sure you'll get away with it. Geesh! __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

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NetRodent Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: In the walls of your house. Posts: 3,985	Most of those look like direct rip-offs. However, before you attack Goodthinxx, you might want consider the possiblity that they are unaware the designs are copied. We had an in house designer for about a year who we later learned had copied most of the work he did for us from other people. __________________ "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --H.L. Mencken

05-02-2003, 05:10 PM	#42
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	I wouldn't even bother contacting the designers that ripped you off, since they probably are lightweights if this is their modus operandi and have no cash. Instead go to the companies they did the work for since they have the most to lose here. Ask them to pay you for the use of your copied designs. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

05-02-2003, 06:43 PM	#43
AdultNex Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bostonnnn Posts: 8,985	Try suing them. If you think they ripped your design, you haven't seen true design rips. ;) A few of them are merely just inspired off your design. They're not "rips". Seriously though, as others have stated, contact them and tell them to immediately switch the designs. If they ignore you, take legal action.

05-02-2003, 06:57 PM	#45
cj-design Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Posts: 378	voice your opinions like I did: http://www.goodthinxxcash.com/contactus/contactus.php

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	To funny. Sorry to see this. Not necesarily the design matches. It just sad, that Designers enmasse downgrade themselves in value and pay and are so underpaid that they need to meet a production line criteria that almost forces them to tag designs off other designers. Design is the most difficult aspect of the industry shoulder to shoulder with the business mind that lights the candle. When will designers arise and realise there value in the business. Answer. NEVER. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

05-02-2003, 07:40 PM	#49
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	Well, if nothing else, I believe I have just discovered a new niche to promote...Porn for Visually Impaired Webmasters.... How can any of you even say for a second that the offending designer did not blatantly and deliberately copy the original designs. I just can't figure out why the other company/designer finds the need to copy. He obviously has the photoshop skills to create his own work.

05-02-2003, 07:44 PM	#50
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	many are blatant rippoffs. Demand this Goodthinxxx company give you the name of the design company. Goodthinxxx could be completely innocent bystanders. wait until Todd finds out, he won't stand for it at all if the Webinc knockoffs are as bad as these are. Post some of the Webinc side by side comparisons. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!