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BlueDesignStudios 05-02-2003 01:14 AM

#&$%! Design Thieves!
 
Got my Xbiz newletter today, and saw these guys took out an advertising spot: http://www.goodthinxxcash.com

So I checked out their portfolio of sites - I almost fell of my seat.

Below are just a few of their sites, compared to ones my crew has designed for clients such as Maxcash & ARS.

WTF are these guys doing??? They've also stolen designs from the crew @ webinc, and I would bet that other designers have been ripped off as well!

Q: What Action should I take?

http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites1.jpg http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites2.jpg

http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites3.jpg http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites4.jpg


more to come...

BlueDesignStudios 05-02-2003 01:14 AM

http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites5.jpg http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites6.jpg

http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites7.jpg http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites8.jpg
more to come...

BlueDesignStudios 05-02-2003 01:15 AM

http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites9.jpg http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites10.jpg

http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites11.jpg http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites12.jpg

more to come...

BlueDesignStudios 05-02-2003 01:15 AM

http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites13.jpg http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites14.jpg

http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites15.jpg http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites16.jpg
more to come...

BlueDesignStudios 05-02-2003 01:16 AM

http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites17.jpg http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites18.jpg

http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites19.jpg http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/sites/sites20.jpg

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NBDesign 05-02-2003 01:16 AM

I was offered a job here a little while back with a company in Tempe that wanted me to scam design from other profitable sites. I refused because I just will nto do that.

It is a compliment in a way, but is also suck too.

BlueDesignStudios 05-02-2003 01:17 AM

I forgot to mention - sites on the left are the ones that have been design by Us (Bluedesignstudios.com) and the ones on the right are the ones that look a little too similar - what do you think?

ry0t 05-02-2003 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
I forgot to mention - sites on the left are the ones that have been design by Us (Bluedesignstudios.com) and the ones on the right are the ones that look a little too similar - what do you think?
I think your companies designs are splendid and this fakers designer sucks at design. Crumby knockoffs haha :)

galleryseek 05-02-2003 01:18 AM

yep those are rip offs alright. some more than others obviously.

BlueDesignStudios 05-02-2003 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign
I was offered a job here a little while back with a company in Tempe that wanted me to scam design from other profitable sites. I refused because I just will nto do that.

It is a compliment in a way, but is also suck too.

Yes I guess the upside is that it is a compliment, but it's just not on, it's stealing IP from me, as well as stealing the sites from some of the most respectable names on the net :BangBang

NBDesign 05-02-2003 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
I forgot to mention - sites on the left are the ones that have been design by Us (Bluedesignstudios.com) and the ones on the right are the ones that look a little too similar - what do you think?
They are all showing top and bottom to me.... are yours on top?

BlueDesignStudios 05-02-2003 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign


They are all showing top and bottom to me.... are yours on top?

The ones that link of to my domain: bluedesignstudios.com are the ones done by us - my guess is that this is the top one for you

boneprone 05-02-2003 01:21 AM

Nice designs.

d0se 05-02-2003 01:22 AM

Thats fucked bluedood...


BTW i got your icq from Stu (I'm also a perth guy) - ill be sure to call if i ever need any design done...

Ozi ozi ozi!

NBDesign 05-02-2003 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios

The ones that link of to my domain: bluedesignstudios.com are the ones done by us - my guess is that this is the top one for you

That would have been my guess, they are a bit nicer. More balanced. Good work.

NBDesign 05-02-2003 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios

Yes I guess the upside is that it is a compliment, but it's just not on, it's stealing IP from me, as well as stealing the sites from some of the most respectable names on the net :BangBang

Yes, that is totally uncool.

Babaganoosh 05-02-2003 01:26 AM

Oh shit, total ripoffs. Don't fuck around, get an attorney.

Brujah 05-02-2003 01:30 AM

Dude.. just tell us they didn't touch the jelly beans!

Splinter 05-02-2003 01:31 AM

except for the teen one, most of those look different enough that you probably have no case.

BlueDesignStudios 05-02-2003 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
Dude.. just tell us they didn't touch the jelly beans!
The Jelly Beans are safe :) Rest Assured Mate

TheMob 05-02-2003 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Splinter
except for the teen one, most of those look different enough that you probably have no case.
I agree.. Porn sites all look the same now anyways and sewing them will probably just cost a lot of money. However you should send them an invoice for each and every design at a "reseller price". Also add a fine for not paying before using them... They might just pay :)

Rich 05-02-2003 01:44 AM

Brutal, sue 'em.

Roald 05-02-2003 01:46 AM

Sue their ass :ak47:

RaiDeN 05-02-2003 01:50 AM

Nice work on the initial designs,


But the right ones are a TOTAL ripoff..
Contact them first though.

Could be a designer of them who took your pages as an example but the owner didnt know about it.

(im not into their companies structure, but it could be an option)

Iff not, Sue their ass.

stocktrader23 05-02-2003 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Splinter
except for the teen one, most of those look different enough that you probably have no case.
Are you blind or retarded?

BlueDesignStudios 05-02-2003 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23


Are you blind or retarded?

Both??

poorwebmaster 05-02-2003 01:58 AM

Welcome To The Fuckin' Internet - Quit Complaining and make money - sue and you lose dough :Grrrrrr

funkmaster 05-02-2003 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Splinter
except for the teen one, most of those look different enough that you probably have no case.
... call me blind and retarted too, but I agree with splinter. they look similar, but they are no blantant copies ... you have no case here and you won´t have any chance if you sue them.

Pappa 05-02-2003 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster


... call me blind and retarted too, but I agree with splinter. they look similar, but they are no blantant copies ... you have no case here and you won´t have any chance if you sue them.

You're blind and retared too

Sue the bastards :BangBang:

OsirisID 05-02-2003 03:37 AM

All of the ones listed with the exception of the two Asian designs look similiar.. The asian one doesn't even come close to Ex. Asians.

Mr Pheer 05-02-2003 03:50 AM

If this went to court and i was on the jury...
I'd have to say they are different enough to not be copies

His designs are obviously based on yours, no question about that
But, not outright copies. They changed enough on thier pages so that even though they used your page as a model, they didnt outright copy anything.

Machete_ 05-02-2003 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Oh shit, total ripoffs. Don't fuck around, get an attorney.
what he said

Gutterboy 05-02-2003 04:08 AM

If it was just one or two designs, the coincidental similarities among pornsite tours excuse might get them a pass, but there is an obvious pattern of abuse that you'd have to be stupid not to see.

Sue 'em.

BlueDesignStudios 05-02-2003 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gutterboy
If it was just one or two designs, the coincidental similarities among pornsite tours excuse might get them a pass, but there is an obvious pattern of abuse that you'd have to be stupid not to see.

Sue 'em.

I agree, and if you check out their site portfolio, there are a lot there that look very similar to webinc's

European Lee 05-02-2003 04:06 PM

How many sponsor programs do you know that handle their own in-house designs?

Chances are, they outsourced this design work to someone and the designer they used did the rip-offs.

Goodthinxx are good people and i am positive they wouldnt knowingly rip-off other designs :thumbsup

Regards,

Lee

booker 05-02-2003 04:08 PM

Raw deal man.. they certainly look like ripoffs to me.

I'd send 'em a firm email, let 'em know you're onto their game and if they don't pull it down immediately you'll take legal action.

OR.. you could offer a settlement, you gotta figure they paid a decent amount to have someone do those rips, maybe they'll be willing to pay you a few grand if you let them use what they have and not rip off future designs? It might work out for you in the end.. $2k for 3 emails. Ya never know.

MCsteve-matrix 05-02-2003 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by galleryseek
yep those are rip offs alright. some more than others obviously.
exactly... some are very apparent ripoffs. shit like this makes me wanna puke.

those who can't innovate, immitate.

RRRED 05-02-2003 04:13 PM

So... are they cheaper than you, Andrew?

:)

PR_Phil 05-02-2003 04:16 PM

I vote complete rip off, 7 out of 8 times, and partial rip off 1 out of 8.

Sly_RJ 05-02-2003 04:18 PM

Haha. Most are even rips of the same niche. WTF?

If you're going to steal, make sure you'll get away with it. Geesh!

NetRodent 05-02-2003 04:30 PM

Most of those look like direct rip-offs. However, before you attack Goodthinxx, you might want consider the possiblity that they are unaware the designs are copied.

We had an in house designer for about a year who we later learned had copied most of the work he did for us from other people.

KRL 05-02-2003 05:10 PM

I wouldn't even bother contacting the designers that ripped you off, since they probably are lightweights if this is their modus operandi and have no cash. Instead go to the companies they did the work for since they have the most to lose here. Ask them to pay you for the use of your copied designs.

AdultNex 05-02-2003 06:43 PM

Try suing them.

If you think they ripped your design, you haven't seen true design rips. ;)

A few of them are merely just inspired off your design. They're not "rips".

Seriously though, as others have stated, contact them and tell them to immediately switch the designs. If they ignore you, take legal action.

cj-design 05-02-2003 06:49 PM

That is the worst! I cant believe they nicked your designs! :disgust

cj-design 05-02-2003 06:57 PM

voice your opinions like I did:
http://www.goodthinxxcash.com/contactus/contactus.php

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-02-2003 07:08 PM

To funny.
Sorry to see this. Not necesarily the design matches. It just sad, that Designers enmasse downgrade themselves in value and pay and are so underpaid that they need to meet a production line criteria that almost forces them to tag designs off other designers.

Design is the most difficult aspect of the industry shoulder to shoulder with the business mind that lights the candle.

When will designers arise and realise there value in the business.

Answer.
NEVER.

Nina 05-02-2003 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NetRodent
Most of those look like direct rip-offs. However, before you attack Goodthinxx, you might want consider the possiblity that they are unaware the designs are copied.

We had an in house designer for about a year who we later learned had copied most of the work he did for us from other people.


very good point.

It sucks that someone ripped off your work. But Goodthinxxx is a good company and I doubt they knew that this was happening.

Have you contacted them yet? What was their response?

SomeCreep 05-02-2003 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPheer
If this went to court and i was on the jury...
I'd have to say they are different enough to not be copies

His designs are obviously based on yours, no question about that
But, not outright copies. They changed enough on thier pages so that even though they used your page as a model, they didnt outright copy anything.

Yep, I agree. Looks like they created all those graphics on their own, based on yours. They didnt take your actual images and change them or incorporate them into their sites. Your only argument would be "they're stealing the look and feel". I'm not an attorney, so I dont know how that would hold up in court, but I'd say that wouldnt be enough to actually get compensation from that other company.

49thParallel 05-02-2003 07:40 PM

Well, if nothing else, I believe I have just discovered a new niche to promote...Porn for Visually Impaired Webmasters....

How can any of you even say for a second that the offending designer did not blatantly and deliberately copy the original designs.

I just can't figure out why the other company/designer finds the need to copy. He obviously has the photoshop skills to create his own work.

Mutt 05-02-2003 07:44 PM

many are blatant rippoffs. Demand this Goodthinxxx company give you the name of the design company. Goodthinxxx could be completely innocent bystanders.

wait until Todd finds out, he won't stand for it at all if the Webinc knockoffs are as bad as these are. Post some of the Webinc side by side comparisons.


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