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Scrapper 03-14-2022 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22978263)
No, you need to work on remembering what you post here, though I can understand why you'd want to forget it.

You said "it took over 100 days for the most powerful military in the world to take Iraq". It didn't. It took about 3 weeks to "take Iraq" - that is defeat the Iraqi government and military. Even if you measure it by "Mission Accomplished" it's just about 5 weeks.

Hey, mama's boy when the US military is fighting Sadams sons "months" later it is NOT 5 weeks later or "mission accomplished". Honestly, it's like you are fucking stupid of something. Because they'll try and change the narrative to suit their ego needs. So again, reread the article YOU posted. Besides, the battle of Fallujah ended in May of 2004, The second battle didn't end until Dec of 2004. You are not going to need a second battle if you "already" militarily control the country.

O MARINA 03-14-2022 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrapper (Post 22978333)
Hey, mama's boy when the US military is fighting Sadams sons "months" later it is NOT 5 weeks later or "mission accomplished". Honestly, it's like you are fucking stupid of something. This is why I hate Eastern Euro fucking trash. Because they'll try and change the narrative to suit their ego needs. So again, reread the article YOU posted.



Can you chill? I do find it interesting what real American's think but why are you so angry. If you hate Euro Trash go post elsewhere on different topics, why are you discussing it?

Scrapper 03-14-2022 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by O MARINA (Post 22978347)
Can you chill? I do find it interesting what real American's think but why are you so angry. If you hate Euro Trash go post elsewhere on different topics, why are you discussing it?

.... I'm discussing it because it's a topic in a <wait for it> PUBLIC forum. Second, tired of Ukrainians begging Americans for money when Ukraine is a failed state run by a criminal cabal. Why should "we" yet again, bail your country out of its problems when we have enough of our own. Finally, he replied to one of my posts, first.

Then some thickheaded clown who thinks, talks, and reasons like chick runs his mouth like he's smarter than everyone else when he's clearly a simpleton mama's boy. Besides, MARINA was it you that got my other replies from a different thread merged into this one?

..if you don't like what I write block me.

O MARINA 03-14-2022 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrapper (Post 22978362)
...Besides, MARINA was it you that got my other replies from a different thread merged into this one?

no? no idea other thread reply. I just saw what you posted here.
Not blocking you, I do like to hear what you think but no need to insult all Euro Trash !

MaDalton 03-14-2022 11:52 AM

awesome what people you can find on GFY - Putin lovers, Antisemites, fake nicks - only the best of the best.

k0nr4d 03-14-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22978295)
Hilarious watching Putinbots desperately trying to convince themselves that the sanctions - an "act of war", according to the man himself - are a good thing for Russia. Genuinely LOL funny.

We all remember the Soviet era: no copyright, with every natural resource within its own borders and with a GDP above Japan, not Mexico, what a utopia of plenty it was for the happy, contented population.

As for Libya being a "desert", were you always a total moron even before this war?

https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10...-intervention/

Are you implying that Libya is not a desert and that I am a moron for thinking so?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Li...7.228331?hl=en If you could point out where it's lush green jungles are, I would be grateful because i'm having some problems locating them. There's some shrubs near Benghazi but that probably isn't what you're thinking of?

As for Russia - Soviet era was shit because of communism. If you look at East Germany before whole Berlin Wall then it was also sad place, and now without communism people are content. Nothing in the landscape changed, nothing new started growing that wasn't growing before. Libya is not able to self-sustain. They have oil, natural gas, and probably various things that can be mined like iron. Libya was wealthy because of export of this stuff.

They do not have endless arable land to grow food on. Russia has everything. To put it another way - if Russia was it's own planet, it could support it's own population. People can survive and thrive without iphones.

Scrapper 03-14-2022 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22978387)
awesome what people you can find on GFY - Putin lovers, Antisemites, fake nicks - only the best of the best.

Don't forget the Nazis.

Brian mike 03-14-2022 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrapper (Post 22978405)
Don't forget the Nazis.

and white supremacist :1orglaugh

askjoe 03-14-2022 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by O MARINA (Post 22978347)
Can you chill? I do find it interesting what real American's
think

You are just posting how many people were killed, russia here , russia there.Like a bot
copy pasting words from a source you "trust".

You really want to know what people think :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Scrapper (Post 22978405)
Don't forget the Nazis.

He knows the club rules.
Do not talk about Fight Club.

askjoe 03-14-2022 01:08 PM

At 11:31 a.m. local time Monday, a Ukrainian Tochka-U ballistic missile struck the bustling
center of Donetsk, a city of over a million people. Authorities currently put the death toll
from the attack at 20. 33 injured had to be hospitalized.


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Originally Posted by O MARINA (Post 22972360)
For those of you who are trying to understand

Yeah.Make us all understand.And do not come here with the Russians have killed more.
Itīs not a competition.Itīs just sad for both sides.


This Tochka-U was equipped with munitions that violate international law.
I know.Some troll will now say, itīs russias rocket , i read it in the tweet from the
ukrainian president. You guys are disgusting.

https://scontent-frx5-1.xx.fbcdn.net...3g&oe=6233DC19

https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...2g&oe=62343326

https://scontent-frx5-1.xx.fbcdn.net...bw&oe=6234B943


There are more photos but too bloody to post here and iīm sick just by looking at this.

just a punk 03-14-2022 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by O MARINA (Post 22972360)
For those of you who are trying to understand Why Russia is invading Ukraine

By the way Marina, listen to this audio from a Russian police station:



The girls came to a Moscow square to protest against the war in Ukraine. Listen the record to the end to understand what risks the Russians expose themselves when they support the Ukrainian civilians and openly say "no to war".

They know they will be arrested and tortured. Some will get prison time, but they do that they can to stop the brother-killing war.

Now look at Sid70 and other cowards who left the Ukraine and pretend to be patriots by posting all sorts of shit right from their cozy sofas. I'm not talking about you, because you are a women. But men who consider themselves Ukrainians, but still not in the Ukraine right now are so disgusting :disgust

just a punk 03-14-2022 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by askjoe (Post 22978434)
Yeah.Make us all understand.And do not come here with the Russians have killed more. Itīs not a competition.Itīs just sad for both sides.

Yes, that's very sad and yes, for both sides. That why the war must be stopped and those who gave an order to start it, must face article 353 of the Russian Criminal Code:

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Article 353. Planning, Preparing, Unleashing, or Waging on Aggressive War

1. Planning, preparing, or unleashing an aggressive war shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of seven to fifteen years.
2. Waging an aggressive war shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of 10 to 20 years.

TACNet 03-14-2022 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 22977872)
Volodymyr Zelenskyy is one true hero, but I don't know how long he can keep this up, sooner or later, he will be captured and killed.

Totally agree. I think if they do kill him then the whole world will erupt. He's not only inspired Ukraine but he's inspired most of the rest of the world too.

Thinking about it, if Putin is stupid enough to actually kill him then thats just as likely to start a war as flying jets from Poland etc. The outcry would be HUGE and world will demand retribution.

But on the other hand Putin cant take him prisoner either for the exact same reasons.

Really cant see a way out of this for Putin.

ZTT 03-14-2022 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrapper (Post 22978333)
Hey, mama's boy when the US military is fighting Sadams sons "months" later it is NOT 5 weeks later or "mission accomplished". Honestly, it's like you are fucking stupid of something. Because they'll try and change the narrative to suit their ego needs. So again, reread the article YOU posted. Besides, the battle of Fallujah ended in May of 2004, The second battle didn't end until Dec of 2004. You are not going to need a second battle if you "already" militarily control the country.

This is how a <wait for it> PUBLIC forum works: we discuss what you wrote, not what you didn't write.

If you meant the entire occupation, from 2003-2011, you would obviously not have said "100 days" to "take Iraq".

By the nonsense 'logic' you're now trying to use, the Germans didn't "take France" in 1940, because there was still resistance activity afterwards.

So getting back to your actual point again:

"With the capture of the Tikrit region, the coalition declares that the war in Iraq is effectively over."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli..._Iraq#April_15

"Most of the Iraqi military was quickly defeated and the coalition occupied Baghdad on 9 April. Other operations occurred against pockets of the Iraqi Army, including the capture and occupation of Kirkuk on 10 April, and the attack on and capture of Tikrit on 15 April."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq

"conflict in Iraq that consisted of two phases. The first of these was a brief, conventionally fought war in March-April 2003 [which] rapidly defeated Iraqi military and paramilitary forces."
https://www.britannica.com/event/Iraq-War

"In 2003, United States-led coalition forces invaded Iraq, and the Ba'athist Iraqi regime was deposed less than a month later."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%27athist_Iraq

Post one credible, non-loony source (ie, not you) claiming the Iraqi military/state that existed in March 2003 held out against US/coalition forces for more than 100 days.

ZTT 03-14-2022 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22978388)
Are you implying that Libya is not a desert and that I am a moron for thinking so?

No, just for being so dismissive of Libya, which was one of the most progressive and advanced countries in the world, before NATO got involved providing air support for ISIS.

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https://www.google.com/maps/place/Li...7.228331?hl=en If you could point out where it's lush green jungles are, I would be grateful because i'm having some problems locating them. There's some shrubs near Benghazi but that probably isn't what you're thinking of?
And what's your expert analysis of Australia based on Satellite images? "Big Desert"?

https://scoopempire.com/27-photos-to...iful-libya-is/

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As for Russia - Soviet era was shit because of communism.
That's funny, considering the Communist era is objectively the greatest era in Russian history, certainly in terms of the social and technological advancement of the country.

Practically everything that exists in Russia today, other than farms, was established and built in the Soviet period.

Before Communism Russia was a backward, illiterate, low life-expectancy joke on the world stage, while just a generation after the revolution life expectancy had doubled, illiteracy was gone and the country was transformed into a nuclear superpower with a GDP second only to the USA, inspiring the whole world with pioneering space exploration.

The running down of Communism in the late 80s was such a catastrophe for Russia that by the mid 90s the Communist Party was the biggest party in the Duma, and then won but was cheated out of the 1996 presidential election.

The shit part of the Soviet era was that it was oppressive and restrictive. Key features of Russia today.

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If you look at East Germany before whole Berlin Wall then it was also sad place, and now without communism people are content.
Again, not because of Communism, but totalitarianism. It's a myth that everyone in East Germany was happy with reunification, when there have been huge issues with it. Ostalgia isn't just about road crossing lights.

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Russia has everything. To put it another way - if Russia was it's own planet, it could support it's own population. People can survive and thrive without iphones.
Maybe they could before iPhones existed. It's like after a nuclear war, sure you can survive, and a lot of infrastructure will even still exist, but after a certain standard of living, why would you want to revert back to a relative stone age, cut off from the rest of the world.

O MARINA 03-14-2022 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22978443)
By the way Marina, listen to this audio


I listened and it's evil, wrong, horrible how they talk. It's corruption. It's not "normal". Anyone, any part of the world in their right mind does not support war on innocent people Sid70 or Bob70. There is no freedom in Russia I understand that, people understand that, and that is more 'disgusting' than anyone's comments. They cannot protest like we do here or drive around w/ "F*CKPresidentNAMEhere" flags. It's heartbreaking everyday and people are dividing. Like the video in first post explains, Russia occupied Crimea, Georgia and thought the same would happen with Ukraine in few days. I mean even Pugacheva and Galkin fled at this point, leaving behind their hard earned castle? That's an Icon, a Tina Turner of Russia.

Brian mike 03-14-2022 03:39 PM

Zenlensky is a comedian clown, same for Trucastro and Sleepy joe crime family.
All 3 above = WEF

for sale by Jeff bezoz WEF Puppet

https://external-content.duckduckgo....6pid%3DApi&f=1

https://external-content.duckduckgo....6pid%3DApi&f=1

Brian mike 03-14-2022 04:45 PM

Trudeau the Drama Teacher / Comedian Triplet with Zelensky and Macron.


O MARINA 03-14-2022 05:11 PM

Watch this video of a Russian TV station editor who pre recorded it before she got arrested for speaking out today.


March 14, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k_Z0noFAEI

Scrapper 03-14-2022 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22978470)
This is how a <wait for it> PUBLIC forum works: we discuss what you wrote, not what you didn't write.

If you meant the entire occupation, from 2003-2011, you would obviously not have said "100 days" to "take Iraq".

By the nonsense 'logic' you're now trying to use, the Germans didn't "take France" in 1940, because there was still resistance activity afterwards.

So getting back to your actual point again:

"With the capture of the Tikrit region, the coalition declares that the war in Iraq is effectively over."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli..._Iraq#April_15

"Most of the Iraqi military was quickly defeated and the coalition occupied Baghdad on 9 April. Other operations occurred against pockets of the Iraqi Army, including the capture and occupation of Kirkuk on 10 April, and the attack on and capture of Tikrit on 15 April."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq

"conflict in Iraq that consisted of two phases. The first of these was a brief, conventionally fought war in March-April 2003 [which] rapidly defeated Iraqi military and paramilitary forces."
https://www.britannica.com/event/Iraq-War

"In 2003, United States-led coalition forces invaded Iraq, and the Ba'athist Iraqi regime was deposed less than a month later."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba%27athist_Iraq

Post one credible, non-loony source (ie, not you) claiming the Iraqi military/state that existed in March 2003 held out against US/coalition forces for more than 100 days.

No, the actual point was Russia NOT taking (militarily) all of Ukraine in 2.5 weeks. As I explained the largest military in the world could not take Iraq in a specific time frame. You then had to muddle the issue because of the strength of the point-like you are doing now bringing in 1940's WW2. Jewish much?

TACNet 03-14-2022 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22977924)
I read on Polish news site that Russia has reportedly asked China for weapons. Russia has huge inventory of tanks, armored cars, planes, etc - is most of it broken or something? Even if they destroyed 1000 tanks I remember reading something about Russia having 22k of them or something?

They are getting a little too close for comfort to Poland. Missile attack today almost on Polish border.

I really cant see China wanting to get too involved, its too big a risk for them.

Just look at the numbers. The west (US, EU, UK, Canada, Austrailia, Japan and others) is probably well over 1 billion people. Thats 1 billion customers that they would potentially be cut off from if we sanctioned China vs around 150 million Russians.

Thats a LOT to risk just to save Putin. And even if they did decide to help, they know the Russian economy is going to collapse one way or another in the next few months

Plus I think if they were going to come out in support of Putin, they would have done it by now

Just my opinion

dave90210 03-14-2022 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22978387)
Putin lovers, Antisemites, fake nicks

https://i.imgur.com/JJlFHkA.gif

just a punk 03-14-2022 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by O MARINA (Post 22978506)
Pugacheva and Galkin fled at this point, leaving behind their hard earned castle? That's an Icon, a Tina Turner of Russia.

Have no idea about Pugacheva (is she alive yet?) But as about Galkin, so here you go: https://vz.ru/news/2022/2/24/1145397.html

So as I said earlier the sane Russian people do not support this war.

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Originally Posted by O MARINA (Post 22978572)
Watch this video of a Russian TV station editor who pre recorded it before she got arrested for speaking out today.

March 14, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k_Z0noFAEI

Absolutely agree with her.

Now I tell you one super dupper military "secret". Ukraine was betrayed. It was betrayed by the West. Right now they (the Ukrainians) are having a lack of weapon, ammunition and... food. Yes, they literally have nothing to eat. So to be honest, they won't least any long. They have no problems with recruits (a lot of highly motivated men are ready to join army), but it's a difficult to fight with bare arms and when you are hungry. So the food and ammo are something that West have in any possible and impossible amount, but it (the West) decided to take a pause and wait till the Ukraine will surrender or be just eliminated.

ZTT 03-15-2022 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrapper (Post 22978587)
No, the actual point was Russia NOT taking (militarily) all of Ukraine in 2.5 weeks. As I explained the largest military in the world could not take Iraq in a specific time frame. You then had to muddle the issue because of the strength of the point-like you are doing now bringing in 1940's WW2. Jewish much?

A specific time frame pulled out your ass because you have no idea what you're talking about.

At least one reason the entire planet is in stitches over the performance of the Russian military is because Russia acted like it would be "Mission Accomplished" within 48 hours. They even published a delusional victory message after a couple of days, removing it as the scale of the total humiliation became apparent:

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/st...27513544687616

Scrapper 03-15-2022 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22978732)
A specific time frame pulled out your ass because you have no idea what you're talking about.

At least one reason the entire planet is in stitches over the performance of the Russian military is because Russia acted like it would be "Mission Accomplished" within 48 hours. They even published a delusional victory message after a couple of days, removing it as the scale of the total humiliation became apparent:

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/st...27513544687616

Again, your ego as I've already explained "100 days" you fucking ignorant tool. You Ukrainians deserve what is coming because you're too stupid to assimilate to your surroundings. The irony is all the news stories about how rude and demanding you are in your host countries. Like people owe you something. Again, Ukrainians are just plain Eurotrash.


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