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MaDalton 03-03-2022 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O MARINA (Post 22972762)
I don't know who "Wautier" username here is but this is 100 % right on.
Thank you Wautier :thumbsup

https://www.gfy.com/22972399-post67.html

I also think it's important to distinguish between a mad dictator and regular people.

I have a Russian employee, we are working hard that he keeps his visa to CZ.

Now simply hating every Russian person because they are Russian is nonsense.

Sid70 03-03-2022 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22972772)
I also think it's important to distinguish between a mad dictator and regular people.

I have a Russian employee, we are working hard that he keeps his visa to CZ.

Now simply hating every Russian person because they are Russian is nonsense.

They have been passively accepting it. I'd rather let him rot in Russia.

O MARINA 03-03-2022 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 22972773)
They have been passively accepting it. I'd rather let him rot in Russia.

It is all outrageous but there are actual photos floating around online of children being detained IN JAIL WTF WTF who are holding up posters saying "NO WAR" !!!!
People are scared and too paranoid to even discuss war on the phone there.
They are divided too!

Sid70 03-03-2022 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O MARINA (Post 22972778)
It is all outrageous but there are actual photos floating around online of children being detained IN JAIL WTF WTF who are holding up posters saying "NO WAR" !!!!
People are scared and too paranoid to even discuss war on the phone there.
They are divided too!

No. They are not divided. It's just the dictator who is imposing 'sanctions' on his own nation.

MaDalton 03-03-2022 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggie Smalls Web Writing (Post 22972708)
It goes both ways I believe

https://i.imgur.com/0NSQnzd.jpg

i just learned that this guy was one of the only 3 people to NOT support Ukraine in Congress

I guess that says all about his motivation

MaDalton 03-03-2022 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 22972773)
They have been passively accepting it. I'd rather let him rot in Russia.

This is bullshit.

ZTT 03-03-2022 09:18 AM

I don't know if this was already posted, but here's a, now removed, 'official' version of why they invaded (worth translating to see how far Russia is divorced from reality).

https://web.archive.org/web/20220226...775162336.html

Sid70 03-04-2022 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22972806)
This is bullshit.

LOL, no, This is bullshit.

brassmonkey 03-04-2022 11:25 PM

oil oil oil

NoComments 03-05-2022 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by O MARINA (Post 22972487)
Good thing there are other people worldwide who do understand and act.
Especially tech wise. Here is a list of Russian 'victories' in 7 days.






(pasting translated from Russian)


Apple Pay - full block
Apple is a complete exit from the market.
Adidas refuses to work with the national football team.
Audi - leaving the market
AMD - ban the supply of microchips and soon ban the supply of video cards
Amazon - a full block of retail will be for dessert
Adobe is a complete block
British Petroleum - 20% shares exited Rosnefti
BBC - Review of Broadcasting Licenses
BMW - closes factories, blocks supplies
Bolt - Full Shut Down
Boeing - leaving the market
Chevrolet - leaving the market
Cannes Festival - Russian delegation bloc
Cadillac - off the market
Carlsberg - export restrictions
Cex Io is a crypto platform that bans users
Cinema 4D - app not working
Coca Cola - exit from the market
Danone - exit from the market together with its subsidiary Prostkvashino
Disney - cancel all the movies
Dell is leaving the market
Dropbox - will stop working in the country in a few days
DHL is off the market
Eurovision - Disqualification
Ericsson - exit from the market
Exxon Mobil - recalling all specialists from oil companies of the Russian Federation
Etsy is a block of all balances on Ru accounts
Facebook - ban Russian media accounts
FedEx is a total delivery ban
Formula 1 - tournament in Sochi canceled
Ford - closing all the stores
FIFA - disqualification of the national team for the World Cup and ban on holding any international matches in the Russian Federation
Google Maps is an info block for Russians
Get Contact - a newsletter for all users of truth
General Motors is stopping the export
HP - laptops won't be available anymore
Harley Davidson - discontinuation of supplies.
Instagram - Blocking Propaganda
Intel has banned the supply of microchips
Jaguar - coming off the market
Jooble - removed the service and made a statement.
KUNA - steals crypto to users without a chance.
Lenovo - exit from the market
LinkedIn - preparing for a complete exit of the country
MOK - all competitions are cancelled
Mastercard - suspends card production, disable several banks
Maersk - supply stop to/from the Russian Federation
Mercedes - Exit the country
Megogo - deleting all Russian films
Metro - 10k employees - go out
Mitsubishi - employees of the 141 service center - on the way out
Microsoft Office - a wide set of measures is being discussed
Mobile World Congress - Russian delegation will not be accredited
NFT is a block of funds of Russian and Russian users, transferring their money to Ukraine
NHL - a complete block for Russian players
Netflix is a block for Russian subscriptions, stopping production of Russian TV series
Nike - closing all stores.
Nintendo - ban on purchases in rubles
Nestle - closing all 6 factories in the Russian Federation
OnlyFans - shutdown in the country
Paysera is a lock down
PayPal - withdrawal accounts freeze
Paramount - Movie Rental Block
Parimatch - the franchise has been recalled
ps can't make a payment
Pornhub is banned from access
Porsche - exit from Russia
Renault - exit from the market
Samsung pay - service blocking
Snapchat - out of the app in Russia
Scania - exit from Russia
SpaceX - delivery of Starlink to Ukraine
Shell - termination of Gazprom contract
Spotify - impossible to pay for a subscription
Sony - movie rental block
Twitter - Russian citizens cannot register accounts
TikTok is the mass
Toyota - 2600 employees are laid off
UEFA - cancellation of the Champions League final in St. Petersburg, ban on all clubs to participate in the Champions League and European Championship, $ 1 million aid to Ukraine, termination of the contract with the general sponsor Gazprom
UPS is a total shutdown on supplies
Universal pictures - movie rental block
Viber - $9 million aid to Ukraine from Rakuten CEO
Visa - suspend card production at a minimum
Volvo - leaving Russia
Yandex - excluding the company's shares from listing on the NY stock exchange
YouTube - blocking hundreds of channels and their monetization
Warner Bros. Cancel all movie rentals
Webmoney - a ban on transactions
Volkswagen - leaving the country
Zoom - review of licenses for software development

Coca Cola didn't move anywhere and neither did Pepsi
https://www.yourcentralvalley.com/ne...ia-operations/

askjoe 03-05-2022 03:00 AM

First of all : This video contains facts that are twisted.

O dear :
Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22972694)
PS: Why is Russia doing their best over the last decades in their online fake news war against green initiatives?

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 22972695)
I heard that they are actually financing green lobbies

Yep.They are.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22972694)
Why is spending Russia so much money on RIGHT wing parties all over the world when they are oh so anti Nazi??

O dear.That must come from a german :1orglaugh

Where is Russia training the right wing ?

You mean Us and eu ?

"U.S. to Train Nazi Troops in Ukraine"
U.S. to Train Nazi Troops in Ukraine, Starting on April 20th - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

"Seven Decades of Nazi Collaboration: America’s Dirty Little Ukraine Secret"
Seven Decades of Nazi Collaboration: America?s Dirty Little Ukraine Secret | The Nation
-americas-dirty-little-ukraine-secret

"Ukrainian military speak out plainly: "We bombard our cities" – ENG
SUBS"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l17KfjtaqpA

"Bogdan Boutkevitch: You need to kill 1.5 million people in Donbass"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9SOVarOFJk



Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22972694)
Imagine what would happen to Russia if whole Europe switched to renewable energy - their economy is toast. They have nothing else.

:1orglaugh a dreamer here.If so, they would have done it decadaes ago.
BTW USA would not sell any gas or oil anymore.You think they would let EU do this? :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22972694)
Gonna be fun soon, Russia has zero consumer electronics industry. No computers, phones, TVs etc - welcome back to the stone age.

Another bullshit. You have no clue :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22972694)
No more parts for airplanes - Russia has almost zero own independent airplane industry. Not even the "Superjet" can function without foreign parts for long.

Good news on that: they will not travel anywhere anyways.

:1orglaugh You must be now really scared.
Read carefully now :

Russia's MC-21 airliner is now certified to fly and China is pushing ahead with plans to enter the international market.


The duopoly of Western aircraft manufacturers Airbus and Boeing is under pressure. Russia's MC-21 airliner is now certified to fly and China is pushing ahead with plans to enter the international market.

https://www.dw.com/en/airbus-and-boe...sia/a-60406728

:1orglaugh I would love to see your face now :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22972694)
Also might want to revive the Lada 2105, thats the only car you can build without foreign help (and even that is originally a Fiat)

No more international sports. Nada. Nic.

Let's see for how long the people will accept to live like that.


My laugh muscles cramped up :1orglaugh.
Mrs MaDalton, when you have acquired some knowledge,
you may come back without embarrassing yourself.

Scrapper 03-05-2022 04:10 AM

As an American, it floors me the hypocrisy. Condemning Russia for doing anything sickens me when we should be keeping our fucking mouths shut. Remember "yellowcake" and the million Iraqis we slaughtered for fuck all nothing? Because they wanted to sell their oil in a basket of currencies instead of the petrodollar?

I have no mercy for Ukraine or Russia or Belarus. I've been and done business in 2/3 of them and the corruption starts at the street level and goes straight to the top. That said, Ukraine has demanded or then begged for help when all they've done in the past 30 years became a criminal cabal of globalists from banking or various industries. You reap what you sow.

NEVER forget Americans we are the main reason why Ukraine is a former soviet republic. NEVER forget Americans when they were Soviets their factories (Hungarian also) produced and supplied weapons for the North Vietnamese. Finally, the $750 million in military aid sent was/is for a total lost cause. We've paid enough. We are not the world's police.

Besides, this is just a sign of how fucked up the world is getting. What you need to be worried about is if China goes for Taiwan.

TurboB 03-05-2022 04:49 AM

askjoe
You are posting too old content for current time.

https://time.com/6154493/denazificat...story-context/

https://www.vox.com/2022/2/24/229489...ch-declare-war

https://people.com/politics/how-puti...vasion-russia/

O MARINA 03-05-2022 07:59 AM

Growing List Of Companies Cutting Ties With Russia Over Invasion in Ukraine

March 4, 2022

Ikea - closes all stores and factories in Russia amid exodus of Western firms
FedEx - suspending services in Russia
Intel - Russia and Belarus have been suspended
Ebay - suspends shipping it's Global shipping to Russia and Ukraine
Microsoft - suspending new sales of it's products
Hermes - Hermès became the first luxury brand to suspend operations
EA - EA suspended sales of its games in Russia and Belarus.
Samsung - halted shipments to Russia
Airbnb - suspending all operations in Russia and Belarus
Google -no longer sell online advertising in Russia through its search engine, YouTube or outside publishing partners, according to Reuters, and the apps for Russian state-run media outlets RT and Sputnik were removed from Google’s Play store.
+ long list


Russian Fashionista's have to go back to sewing own clothes because
Stores did not open in Russia fashion, jewellery, cosmetics:

Gucci
Dior
Loewe
Givenchy
Celine
Fendi
Louid Vuitton
Marc Jacobs
Hublot
Loro Piana
Kenzo
Cartier
Yves Saint Laurent
Balenciaga
Guerlain
Make up For ever
H&M
Mango
Monki
Lego
Swarovski
Cos
Marks & Spencer
Zara
Stradivarius
Oysho
Pull & Bear
Bershka



Can't pop bottles no more, the following will not ship to Russia.

Dom Perignon
Moet
Heineken
Hennessy
Carlsberg
Johnnie Walker
Captain Walker
Guinness
Smirnoff
White Horse

Biggie Smalls Web Writing 03-05-2022 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrapper (Post 22973654)
As an American, it floors me the hypocrisy. Condemning Russia for doing anything sickens me when we should be keeping our fucking mouths shut. Remember "yellowcake" and the million Iraqis we slaughtered for fuck all nothing? Because they wanted to sell their oil in a basket of currencies instead of the petrodollar?

I have no mercy for Ukraine or Russia or Belarus. I've been and done business in 2/3 of them and the corruption starts at the street level and goes straight to the top. That said, Ukraine has demanded or then begged for help when all they've done in the past 30 years became a criminal cabal of globalists from banking or various industries. You reap what you sow.

NEVER forget Americans we are the main reason why Ukraine is a former soviet republic. NEVER forget Americans when they were Soviets their factories (Hungarian also) produced and supplied weapons for the North Vietnamese. Finally, the $750 million in military aid sent was/is for a total lost cause. We've paid enough. We are not the world's police.

Besides, this is just a sign of how fucked up the world is getting. What you need to be worried about is if China goes for Taiwan.

Big respect for you sir!

Tasty1 03-05-2022 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22972694)
PS: Why is Russia doing their best over the last decades in their online fake news war against green initiatives?

Why is spending Russia so much money on RIGHT wing parties all over the world when they are oh so anti Nazi??

Because they know these parties do their best to slow down green initiatives.

Imagine what would happen to Russia if whole Europe switched to renewable energy - their economy is toast. They have nothing else.

Gonna be fun soon, Russia has zero consumer electronics industry. No computers, phones, TVs etc - welcome back to the stone age.

No more parts for airplanes - Russia has almost zero own independent airplane industry. Not even the "Superjet" can function without foreign parts for long.

Good news on that: they will not travel anywhere anyways.

Also might want to revive the Lada 2105, thats the only car you can build without foreign help (and even that is originally a Fiat)

No more international sports. Nada. Nic.

Let's see for how long the people will accept to live like that.

Is there already a vaccine against your Green Khmer disease?

- Fake news about green energy? Never read that. Most want to get independence for oil and gas long time ago. Cause every war the bullets shot in our direction are paid by ourselves by some of our friendly business partners like Russia, Saudia Arabia, China, Turkey cause of oil, gas and minerals and destroyed Syria, Afghanistan, ..., Ukrain. And than the Green Khmer you voted for decided, against all EU countries, to sent even trillions more cash to Putin and get 75% of the needed gas in Germay from him. You even so blind to think that is Green. Holland is shifting down "natural" gas cause it isn't green.

I guess it will take some years before you realise that all the trillions you paid into your "energiewende" are used to kill Ukrains and start war(s) and keep Putins postition strong.

I am against Putin and happy when he is gone, if nothing worse replaces him. But worse are these kind of people that are 15 years in power and than blame the people that never where in power for it. Idiot.

The wo puppets you wanted cut down nuclear energy for decades. Didn't want 2% for Nato, didn't want farmers in Europe (co2), all they did was make ons dependend. What is next when China attacks, blame the people who always said China isn't our friend.

Useful Id... You voted for the wrong man in history and you know it. And else you are even more stupid.

Only 2 weeks ago, when you demonstrate with 1 nazi (against coronapas) you are a nazi.
That also changed quickly, my old nazi friend.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMmk9EYX...name=4096x4096

digitalfantasies 03-05-2022 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrapper (Post 22973654)
As an American, it floors me the hypocrisy. Condemning Russia for doing anything sickens me when we should be keeping our fucking mouths shut. Remember "yellowcake" and the million Iraqis we slaughtered for fuck all nothing? Because they wanted to sell their oil in a basket of currencies instead of the petrodollar?

I have no mercy for Ukraine or Russia or Belarus. I've been and done business in 2/3 of them and the corruption starts at the street level and goes straight to the top. That said, Ukraine has demanded or then begged for help when all they've done in the past 30 years became a criminal cabal of globalists from banking or various industries. You reap what you sow.

NEVER forget Americans we are the main reason why Ukraine is a former soviet republic. NEVER forget Americans when they were Soviets their factories (Hungarian also) produced and supplied weapons for the North Vietnamese. Finally, the $750 million in military aid sent was/is for a total lost cause. We've paid enough. We are not the world's police.

Besides, this is just a sign of how fucked up the world is getting. What you need to be worried about is if China goes for Taiwan.

Stop posting well-substantiated and eloquent opinions. It lifts the intellectual level of gfy to insupportable heights. And you are breaking down the sterotypical image of the uneducated out of touch narrow-minded stupid American we all love so much.
NO FUN!

Brian mike 03-05-2022 02:31 PM


Tasty1 03-05-2022 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22973921)

That one is fake they say. Only Hunter Biden, junkie son of the second most important president in the world was paid by a Ukrain Gas company.

euronudes 03-05-2022 03:03 PM

A russian boy was shit out from his ugly mother for one reason, to be buried in a mass grave by freedom fighters. This is a disgusting people. I hate them from all my heart. Ban them .KILL THEM.

I miss the Germany that was gone in 1945, this our chance to march east again for our land and drive the barbaric hords away or in death.

J. Falcon 03-05-2022 03:49 PM

This forum has become infested with fake news Russian trolls pushing misinformation. It's a fucking shame.

digitalfantasies 03-05-2022 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euronudes (Post 22973936)
A russian boy was shit out from his ugly mother for one reason, to be buried in a mass grave by freedom fighters. This is a disgusting people. I hate them from all my heart. Ban them .KILL THEM.

I miss the Germany that was gone in 1945, this our chance to march east again for our land and drive the barbaric hords away or in death.

Finally, someone who brings the intellectual level at GFY back to full-retard where it belongs. I was starting to worry

Brian mike 03-05-2022 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasty1 (Post 22973929)
That one is fake they say. Only Hunter Biden, junkie son of the second most important president in the world was paid by a Ukrain Gas company.





Also John Kerry Stepson Christopher heinz was partner with Hunter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Heinz

Devon Archer was a partner with Hunter Biden and Christopher Heinz

Who is Devon? Hunter Biden’s pal sentenced to prison for role in a fraud scheme.
Devon Archer was sentenced to more than a year in prison for his role in a scheme to defraud a Native American tribe of some $60 million.

https://www.conservapedia.com/images...witter%29.jpeg


And now @Tasty? Still, thinking the same?

https://i.postimg.cc/kgrqt3Xn/uk.jpg

Brian mike 03-05-2022 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22973956)
This forum has become infested with fake news Russian trolls pushing misinformation. It's a fucking shame.

The ones talking about other and accusing them of pushing misinformation are the ones that's doing ALL Perrot misinformation.
How do i know that? Just Ask Trudeau :321GFY

O MARINA 03-05-2022 04:16 PM

in other news ...
A civilian woman knocked down a Russian drone from a balcony with a jar of cucumbers in Kiev today.

k0nr4d 03-05-2022 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O MARINA (Post 22973972)
in other news ...
A civilian woman knocked down a Russian drone from a balcony with a jar of cucumbers in Kiev today.

Pickles of Kiev?

must have been like a consumer style drone

O MARINA 03-05-2022 05:05 PM

The latest story of homespun Ukrainian heroism suggests a woman downed a Russian drone by throwing a jar of pickled cucumbers from her balcony at the device.

The report has come from Liubov Tsybulska, an advisor to the Ukranian government, who tweeted about the incident

Tasty1 03-05-2022 09:27 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNGcCZtXEAE_2ZY?format=jpg
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1500282515340279811


Or was it already blocked?

Biggie Smalls Web Writing 03-05-2022 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22973956)
This forum has become infested with fake news Russian trolls pushing misinformation. It's a fucking shame.

You proved yourself spreading misinformation so many times, now you're accusing others of that. One of the main psychological behaviors of guilty people.

fastball 03-05-2022 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O MARINA (Post 22974004)
The latest story of homespun Ukrainian heroism suggests a woman downed a Russian drone by throwing a jar of pickled cucumbers from her balcony at the device.

The report has come from Liubov Tsybulska, an advisor to the Ukranian government, who tweeted about the incident

......link?

fastball 03-05-2022 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22973956)
This forum has become infested with fake news Russian trolls pushing misinformation. It's a fucking shame.

The whole world has united to stop this war. Companies have stepped up to help put an end to this invasion.
Has GFY done anything? Made a supportive statement? No they have not. Instead, they have become a megaphone to support Russian aggression in Europe that could not only fuck up this business, but kill us all. Thanks GFY for your concern about us and our business. I would personally boycott anyone that advertises here until you take a stand. Probably get banned for this, but for a good reason. Stop supporting Russia.

O MARINA 03-06-2022 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastball (Post 22974127)
......link?

https://twitter.com/tsybulskaliubov/status/1500075457798189057?s=21

TurboB 03-06-2022 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastball (Post 22974128)
The whole world has united to stop this war. Companies have stepped up to help put an end to this invasion.
Has GFY done anything? Made a supportive statement? No they have not. Instead, they have become a megaphone to support Russian aggression in Europe that could not only fuck up this business, but kill us all. Thanks GFY for your concern about us and our business. I would personally boycott anyone that advertises here until you take a stand. Probably get banned for this, but for a good reason. Stop supporting Russia.

I first started to talk that this forum should be cleaned from Putler lovers.
And got tons of negative.
It seems 90% of people here support Russia's aggression.

Biggie Smalls Web Writing 03-06-2022 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboB (Post 22974160)
I first started to talk that this forum should be cleaned from Putler lovers.
And got tons of negative.
It seems 90% of people here support Russia's aggression.

No Putin lovers here dude, he is doing nothing less/more than most of the USA presidents.

k0nr4d 03-06-2022 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboB (Post 22974160)
I first started to talk that this forum should be cleaned from Putler lovers.
And got tons of negative.
It seems 90% of people here support Russia's aggression.

I don't think it's a matter of people supporting aggression, I think it's more a matter of media bullshitting and propaganda coming from both sides. Here is the problem for me...

I keep hearing how many Russian soldiers killed, how many civilians killed, but I have not read on any news site here how many UA soldiers were killed. Our media is spun in a way to make it sound like Russia is getting it's ass handed to them, which I find a bit hard to believe.

Photos and videos of captured Russian soldiers that may be Ukrainian for all we know (or maybe they are captured Russians), and it's mostly young guys that look like they were picked up while plowing a field in some Siberian village.

I keep reading how Russians are killing many civilians, but if the civilians are getting guns then are they counting those deaths as civilians or combatants?

I keep reading how Russia is indiscriminately bombing civilian targets and apartment blocks, yet there are only 351 civilians dead? Giving the amount of bombing and fighting in urban areas that are not completely evacuated (since only 1,5 million people left that country so far out of 44 mil population) - that does actually sound like they are avoiding hitting infrastructure or civilian deaths. There is still power and internet pretty much everywhere. You can view webcams in most of the cities.

Now on the other side you have videos coming out of Russia saying the UA people are greeting them as saviors, you have weird (possibly green-screen) video of Putin with flight attendants for some reason, etc.

Now, I am not supportive of Putin by any means but you cannot really be surprised that people start to wonder if something is up when so much of what you hear is so manipulated. I honestly cannot even form an opinion on this topic anymore because I cannot believe a word the news says.

In other news, 922k refugees in Poland alone so far. We'll probably break a million today or tomorrow.

Biggie Smalls Web Writing 03-06-2022 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22974173)
I don't think it's a matter of people supporting aggression, I think it's more a matter of media bullshitting and propaganda coming from both sides. Here is the problem for me...

I keep hearing how many Russian soldiers killed, how many civilians killed, but I have not read on any news site here how many UA soldiers were killed. Our media is spun in a way to make it sound like Russia is getting it's ass handed to them, which I find a bit hard to believe.

Photos and videos of captured Russian soldiers that may be Ukrainian for all we know (or maybe they are captured Russians), and it's mostly young guys that look like they were picked up while plowing a field in some Siberian village.

I keep reading how Russians are killing many civilians, but if the civilians are getting guns then are they counting those deaths as civilians or combatants?

I keep reading how Russia is indiscriminately bombing civilian targets and apartment blocks, yet there are only 351 civilians dead? Giving the amount of bombing and fighting in urban areas that are not completely evacuated (since only 1,5 million people left that country so far out of 44 mil population) - that does actually sound like they are avoiding hitting infrastructure or civilian deaths. There is still power and internet pretty much everywhere. You can view webcams in most of the cities.

Now on the other side you have videos coming out of Russia saying the UA people are greeting them as saviors, you have weird (possibly green-screen) video of Putin with flight attendants for some reason, etc.

Now, I am not supportive of Putin by any means but you cannot really be surprised that people start to wonder if something is up when so much of what you hear is so manipulated. I honestly cannot even form an opinion on this topic anymore because I cannot believe a word the news says.

In other news, 922k refugees in Poland alone so far. We'll probably break a million today or tomorrow.

We have a friend in Gdansk, she is pretty worried that things could escalate with Russia and they could get attacked from the Kaliningrad area.

Honestly, I see no Russian interests in Poland, it makes no sense to me and it would be to risky. What do you think?

k0nr4d 03-06-2022 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggie Smalls Web Writing (Post 22974176)
Honestly, I see no Russian interests in Poland, it makes no sense to me and it would be to risky. What do you think?

I don't see it happening to be honest. The two countries seem to hate each other passionately, but attacking Poland is attacking NATO. If NATO countries don't respond and leave us to fend for ourselves, then NATO is done as a whole because all countries will know it cannot be counted on. There are NATO planes flying over us all the time now including near Gdansk monitoring everything.

As for Kaliningrad itself, i'm of course no military strategy expert or anything so I'm maybe wrong but it's far from Russia, so it seems like it would be probably pretty easy to cut off supply lines to it. It's also quite small and surrounded from all sides by Poland and Lithuania. I doubt it would be much problem to pacify Kalinigrad in itself besides the fact that if that conflict were to actually occur it is basically WW3. Besides that, it seems like Russia is having problems getting fuel etc to their tanks in near Kiev let alone another 800km further west to Warsaw...

askjoe 03-06-2022 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastball (Post 22974128)
The whole world has united to stop this war.

:1orglaugh
Congrats. Ignorelist updated.
I just updated your worldmap for you buddy
https://cloud1.usaupload.com/cache/p...00_cropped.jpg


Hey Konrad,
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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22974173)

I keep reading how Russians are killing many civilians, but if the civilians are getting guns then are they counting those deaths as civilians or combatants?

Germany , Denmark and so on.They keep sending guns and sameday asking for peace and they accuse Russia of killing civilians.
You get it ?

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22974173)
I keep reading how Russia is indiscriminately bombing civilian targets and apartment blocks, yet there are only 351 civilians dead? Giving the amount of bombing and fighting in urban areas that are not completely evacuated (since only 1,5 million people left that country so far out of 44 mil population) - that does actually sound like they are avoiding hitting infrastructure or civilian deaths. There is still power and internet pretty much everywhere. You can view webcams in most of the cities.

And people think Elon Musk have to send internet :2 cents:



Sad to say but :
How many weapons and donations (btc,money) are now illegally retained by terrorists (politicians, nazi asov etc pp) and how many civilians are or will be killed with those guns to blame Russia for their death ? Thousands ? I hope 0

BTW no one can say how many people died.No one.Ukraine claim this, Russia that.
It´s not a competetion. It´s just sad.

Anyway.
I think this is over for ukraine and they never had a tiny chance.

Putin does not want to harm civilians, destroy infrastructure ( working and
secured by russians) or occupy the country.
If that were the case, it would be over with ukraine in 2 days.

This is my opinion

Biggie Smalls Web Writing 03-06-2022 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22974177)
I don't see it happening to be honest. The two countries seem to hate each other passionately, but attacking Poland is attacking NATO. If NATO countries don't respond and leave us to fend for ourselves, then NATO is done as a whole because all countries will know it cannot be counted on. There are NATO planes flying over us all the time now including near Gdansk monitoring everything.

As for Kaliningrad itself, i'm of course no military strategy expert or anything so I'm maybe wrong but it's far from Russia, so it seems like it would be probably pretty easy to cut off supply lines to it. It's also quite small and surrounded from all sides by Poland and Lithuania. I doubt it would be much problem to pacify Kalinigrad in itself besides the fact that if that conflict were to actually occur it is basically WW3. Besides that, it seems like Russia is having problems getting fuel etc to their tanks in near Kiev let alone another 800km further west to Warsaw...

I agree, attacking Poland will be beginning for WW3 (we all know how ww2 started) which will be suicidal for all participants so I don't see it happening.

k0nr4d 03-06-2022 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by askjoe (Post 22974178)
Putin does not want to harm civilians, destroy infrastructure ( working and
secured by russians) or occupy the country.
If that were the case, it would be over with ukraine in 2 days.

This is my opinion

Exactly my point... If their goal was to kill civilians they could bomb the cities to rubble without losing a single soldier.

Either way it's definitely shitty for all the refugees though, having to leave their homes to foreign countries, not knowing if they have anything to come back to later. It's also just fucked up that some old "elites" decide that young men must go and die for their goals - whatever those goals may be.


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