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crockett 03-12-2022 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22977297)
But they WILL figure it out, because they have no choice but to figure it out. It's not re-inventing the wheel, i'm sure they have people that worked in the field and know how to do it. Maybe it will take a month, maybe 6, but they will figure it out. They were working on own CPU and stuff as well... they must have expected the sanctions - albeit maybe not so quickly - but they are in a better position then other countries should those other countries face similar sanctions.

They expected sanctions, but they completely underestimated how deep they would go. I don't even think the west expected everyone to rally over this. Also, Putin never expected he'd be cut off from the "war fund assets" he had stashed in other countries. Last I saw, Russia had lost access to 50% of its reserve funds outside of Russia They were actively searching and blocking it as they find it.

CAHEK 03-12-2022 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22977307)
If you can still access the internet a year from today.. Come back and tell us how your life is then.

Elon Musk Starlink internet satellites 🛰 are doing fine in Russia 👍

askjoe 03-12-2022 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 22977295)
I’m happy Mcdonalds left the building, no more junk food. ��




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Originally Posted by Sexier (Post 22977306)
It looks like jet fuel start to be a problem
Korean Air said it canceled flights to Moscow because it can't refuel its planes there no more Jet fuel.

:1orglaugh

Claim those who do not know that flightradar exists
and repeats what reuters spreads :1orglaugh


Many of these companies that "leave" Russia can not do business due to sanctions,
pressure from the government and the people. Now they claim they boycott Russia.
Truth is, they want from everyone the money.
Specially from Russians.In this case, one airline

https://i.ibb.co/3RZNY2F/RU-Flighradar-12-03-2022.jpg

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Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 22977309)
Elon Musk Starlink internet satellites �� are doing fine in Russia ��

Stop paying attention to this troll.Have pity. He just doesn't know any better.
Put on ignore like i did and save your time :thumbsup

Sexier 03-12-2022 12:53 PM

Claim those who do not know that flightradar exists
and repeats what reuters spreads :

I do not read or watch media , this is what was posted on NOTAM yesterday.

crockett 03-12-2022 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 22977309)
Elon Musk Starlink internet satellites 🛰 are doing fine in Russia 👍

Do you think Putin will let you keep those?

askjoe 03-12-2022 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22977156)
Allow me...

World is round, USA and Russia aren't the only counties.

BTW:

The ban on finished products from Russia will lead to a retaliatory ban on the supply of
production components, causing an acute shortage of microprocessors for the entire
world. Russia accounts for 100 percent of the world's supply of various rare earths used
for these purposes. It will not be possible to abruptly replace [Russia] with an alternative
substrate production, and there is no way to replace rare earths from Russia.

Russia : 80 percent of the market for sapphire substrates - thin sheets of synthetic
corundum used in "every processor in the world" - including those made by AMD and
Intel.

The position is even stronger in special chip etching chemistry, which uses high-purity components.
Russia accounts for 100 percent of the world's supply of various rare earths used for these purposes.
The ONLY county you get your shit..no.sorry.. chip from.... ;-)


The time frame for guaranteeing the quality of those sapphire substrates that are needed
for microchips, for example, request 30 years of continuous production
. The facilities
where they can be manufactured must be located in an area where there is virtually no
seismic activity. That means, he said, that component products from companies in
seismically active California or Taiwan are "significantly inferior to those from Russia in
terms of quality and volume to the level required in the industry.


Who wants internet ? Must pay in Rubles.This is the world you live in and you are worried about oil...

Guess who will get those finished products ?
Here are the first 4 letters - CHIN


k0nr4d 03-12-2022 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22977308)
They expected sanctions, but they completely underestimated how deep they would go. I don't even think the west expected everyone to rally over this. Also, Putin never expected he'd be cut off from the "war fund assets" he had stashed in other countries. Last I saw, Russia had lost access to 50% of its reserve funds outside of Russia They were actively searching and blocking it as they find it.

The more I think about the sanctions, the more I realize they are going to make Russia stronger. In the short term it will be inconvenient but it's people will not be starving, and they will move away from globalization and foreign supply chain. They will start making all own car parts, all own electronics, all own food, all own fuel, etc. It's not going to be an overnight process but in a year the sanctions will have done Russia a favor. In a year or two Russia will be able to do whatever the fuck they want, because sanctions will have no effect on it. No one is going to topple the government there over this shit. The worst thing this war has done for Russia is make them look weak and/or poorly organized in the eyes of the world.

As with everything, some people will gain and some people will lose in Russia. Companies doing international business in Russia will lose out - but other companies like Russian fast food chains, grocery store chains, even cola knockoffs will all gain because their sales will go up. On top of that, things like cars etc will just be privately imported by companies. There won't be an official Mercedes/VW/BMW/Toyota dealership maybe, but you will sure as shit be able to buy any car. They will just get purchased from a dealer in China or some other country and shipped over, and sold to you from a private dealership. Deals will be struck for car parts as well. It will be more expensive and maybe more people will be driving Lada instead of VW, but it's not like they are going back to horses and wagons. Everything will be available and will just come in as private import from countries that aren't sanctioning them.

crockett 03-12-2022 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22977325)
The more I think about the sanctions, the more I realize they are going to make Russia stronger. In the short term it will be inconvenient but it's people will not be starving, and they will move away from globalization and foreign supply chain. They will start making all own car parts, all own electronics, all own food, all own fuel, etc. It's not going to be an overnight process but in a year the sanctions will have done Russia a favor. In a year or two Russia will be able to do whatever the fuck they want, because sanctions will have no effect on it. No one is going to topple the government there over this shit. The worst thing this war has done for Russia is make them look weak and/or poorly organized in the eyes of the world.

As with everything, some people will gain and some people will lose in Russia. Companies doing international business in Russia will lose out - but other companies like Russian fast food chains, grocery store chains, even cola knockoffs will all gain because their sales will go up. On top of that, things like cars etc will just be privately imported by companies. There won't be an official Mercedes/VW/BMW/Toyota dealership maybe, but you will sure as shit be able to buy any car. They will just get purchased from a dealer in China or some other country and shipped over, and sold to you from a private dealership. Deals will be struck for car parts as well. It will be more expensive and maybe more people will be driving Lada instead of VW, but it's not like they are going back to horses and wagons. Everything will be available and will just come in as private import from countries that aren't sanctioning them.

That will make everything more expensive in Russia.. It will fuel inflation which is already out of control.

k0nr4d 03-12-2022 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22977330)
That will make everything more expensive in Russia.. It will fuel inflation which is already out of control.

I disagree. The main thing fueling inflation in the west is fuel costs. If diesel costs more, it costs more to deliver products like food. If gas costs more, all businesses have higher operating costs etc. Since business have higher costs they sell products for higher price. Since everything is more expensive staff requires raises to be able to survive. Since staff requires higher wages, you must raise prices - and the circle closes. It all kind of stems from fuel costs.

What Russia has now, in the short term, is a fucking shit storm but within a year or two they will be in a much better place then before all this started. Yes, Russia has high inflation right now but they will come out of the high inflation much faster then the west will.

crockett 03-12-2022 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22977331)
I disagree. The main thing fueling inflation in the west is fuel costs. If diesel costs more, it costs more to deliver products like food. If gas costs more, all businesses have higher operating costs etc. Since business have higher costs they sell products for higher price. Since everything is more expensive staff requires raises to be able to survive. Since staff requires higher wages, you must raise prices - and the circle closes. It all kind of stems from fuel costs.

What Russia has now, in the short term, is a fucking shit storm but within a year or two they will be in a much better place then before all this started. Yes, Russia has high inflation right now but they will come out of the high inflation much faster then the west will.

Dude you’re crazy if you think Russia ends up in a better position. This is the end of Russia as being relevant to anything more than making threats about nuclear war for at least 20+ years.

This was self inflicted destruction of a country because the leader is a lunatic. There will be no bright days for Russia’s foreseeable future.

Russia can’t even reopen their stock market. They will soon start defaulting on loans. Putin is threatening to nationalize assets of companies which pulled out.

Russia is now a blackhole as an economy. The worst part is Russia’s economy is still “falling” it hasn’t yet reached the bottom.

It might be argued that Russia could brush it off if they could have quickly taken Ukraine and ended the war with a new puppet state. However Russia’s losses on the battlefield show how bad Russia’s military is and how much in disrepair their military is in.

They lost a fucking corvette navel ship to fucking shore fire. One of their newest most modern ships was destroyed by GRAND fire from a shore based attack.

Not only has Russia’s economy been destroyed, they are currently destroying their own military and will not have the ability to rebuild. Russia has been shown to be a paper tiger and the laughing stock of the world.

This is not a short term fuck up. It’s the end of the current state of Russia as even a regional power.

Brian mike 03-12-2022 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22977349)
This is the end of Russia

Yes.... for the legacy mainstream media :2 cents: and for all the lunatic that beleive them.

Time to get your nose out of your ass @Crickett and see whats REALLY going to happen :1orglaugh

k0nr4d 03-12-2022 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22977349)
Not only has Russia’s economy been destroyed, they are currently destroying their own military and will not have the ability to rebuild. Russia has been shown to be a paper tiger and the laughing stock of the world.

Given that our news sources are either UA propaganda or RU propaganda, we have no idea who's winning this war. Maybe Russia is losing, maybe half the civilians reported dead were actually armed and shooting at the army, maybe russia is bombing houses because there was artilery hidden behind them or someone was shooting out of them, or maybe UA is beating the living shit out of them because they know the layout of their city. Maybe Putin has a coal-powered imperial star destroyer hidden in the Urals.

crockett 03-12-2022 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22977416)
Given that our news sources are either UA propaganda or RU propaganda, we have no idea who's winning this war. Maybe Russia is losing, maybe half the civilians reported dead were actually armed and shooting at the army, maybe russia is bombing houses because there was artilery hidden behind them or someone was shooting out of them, or maybe UA is beating the living shit out of them because they know the layout of their city. Maybe Putin has a coal-powered imperial star destroyer hidden in the Urals.

You should maybe check out my topic down in the politics section.. I've got 10 pages of Russian losses so far... It's a shit show for Russia, Ukraine is losing ground but they are destroying Russia's military in the process, Russia doesn't have the manpower to take Kyiv.. Also, Russia can't fund the rebuilding of it's military either.. Not just the funds but shit they need from other countries.. Like computer chips and so on..


Also just FYI.. Russian state TV talks about invading your country next among others

https://twitter.com/kameniar_ua/stat...52625548222471

crockett 03-12-2022 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22977382)
Yes.... for the legacy mainstream media :2 cents: and for all the lunatic that beleive them.

Time to get your nose out of your ass @Crickett and see whats REALLY going to happen :1orglaugh

Yes, you get your news from Russian TV and Qanon...

k0nr4d 03-13-2022 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22977495)
You should maybe check out my topic down in the politics section.. I've got 10 pages of Russian losses so far... It's a shit show for Russia, Ukraine is losing ground but they are destroying Russia's military in the process, Russia doesn't have the manpower to take Kyiv.. Also, Russia can't fund the rebuilding of it's military either.. Not just the funds but shit they need from other countries.. Like computer chips and so on..


Also just FYI.. Russian state TV talks about invading your country next among others

https://twitter.com/kameniar_ua/stat...52625548222471

I try to avoid the politics section tbh. As for that twitter, the first reply to it says that it's out of context and they are discussing NATOs view of how they would attack. Why would they reveal actual attack plans on national tv?

ZTT 03-13-2022 03:48 AM

NATOs view of how they would attack is the same as everyone else's: LOL

crockett 03-13-2022 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22977640)
I try to avoid the politics section tbh. As for that twitter, the first reply to it says that it's out of context and they are discussing NATOs view of how they would attack. Why would they reveal actual attack plans on national tv?

You can stick your head in the sand and pretend, but that doesn't make it a reality..

Tasty1 03-13-2022 09:49 AM

Assad still there in Syria. Afghanistan is lost with billions weapons left behind. Iraq still in hands of Criminals. But people think this is an easy task that takes just a few weeks, strange.

Migrants convoys will be heading to Europe when Africa has hunger or strangled in another created war.

Scrapper 03-13-2022 09:56 AM

Amazing how biased The Tribe-controlled media is. They thought with cancel culture (bolshevism 2.0) they'd have final global control. Nope. You can see what used to be the far-left liberals running right to hide from the Frankiestien they help create. That said, today I watched the BBC and it shocked me, with Al Jazeera later talking about Russia's advancement military failures.

It took over 100 days for the most advanced military in the world with total air dominance to take Iraq. So their military "experts" call Putin a failure because he didn't take a country the size of Texas in two weeks?

All I can say is Volodymyr Zelenskyy soon you really will need a ride, but gas is too expensive to pick you up. Sell some bullets.

GAMEFINEST 03-13-2022 11:47 AM

Volodymyr Zelenskyy is one true hero, but I don't know how long he can keep this up, sooner or later, he will be captured and killed.

Russians are moving in slowly but they will take it all over.

Its a lose lose situation honestly.

CAHEK 03-13-2022 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 22977872)
Volodymyr Zelenskyy is one true hero, but I don't know how long he can keep this up, sooner or later, he will be captured and killed.

Russians are moving in slowly but they will take it all over.

Its a lose lose situation honestly.

Zelensky is Jewish actor. There’s rumors that he is in Poland Embassy, not sure if he is still in Ukraine, because if he gets captured or killed, It’s game over.

CAHEK 03-13-2022 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22977495)
You should maybe check out my topic down in the politics section.. I've got 10 pages of Russian losses so far... It's a shit show for Russia, Ukraine is losing ground but they are destroying Russia's military in the process, Russia doesn't have the manpower to take Kyiv.. Also, Russia can't fund the rebuilding of it's military either.. Not just the funds but shit they need from other countries.. Like computer chips and so on..


Also just FYI.. Russian state TV talks about invading your country next among others

https://twitter.com/kameniar_ua/stat...52625548222471

Shock and disbelief.

Russia cannot afford not to win in Ukraine. Putin going all in on this one.

The Ukrainian PR machine and Twitter normies are doing great job on Russia losses.

k0nr4d 03-13-2022 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 22977911)
Shock and disbelief.

Russia cannot afford not to win in Ukraine. Putin going all in on this one.

The Ukrainian PR machine and Twitter normies are doing great job on Russia losses.

I read on Polish news site that Russia has reportedly asked China for weapons. Russia has huge inventory of tanks, armored cars, planes, etc - is most of it broken or something? Even if they destroyed 1000 tanks I remember reading something about Russia having 22k of them or something?

They are getting a little too close for comfort to Poland. Missile attack today almost on Polish border.

CAHEK 03-13-2022 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22977924)
I read on Polish news site that Russia has reportedly asked China for weapons. Russia has huge inventory of tanks, armored cars, planes, etc - is most of it broken or something? Even if they destroyed 1000 tanks I remember reading something about Russia having 22k of them or something?

They are getting a little too close for comfort to Poland. Missile attack today almost on Polish border.

I believe Russia asking China for munitions like Kalibr cruise missiles, Grad/Smerch rockets and artillery shells.

Russia destroyed mercenaries base in Ukraine near Poland borders. BBC told 20 people killed, Ukraine source told 35 people killed and Russia source told 185 people killed. Nobody can’t get their numbers straight.

k0nr4d 03-14-2022 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 22977932)
I believe Russia asking China for munitions like Kalibr cruise missiles, Grad/Smerch rockets and artillery shells.

Russia destroyed mercenaries base in Ukraine near Poland borders. BBC told 20 people killed, Ukraine source told 35 people killed and Russia source told 185 people killed. Nobody can’t get their numbers straight.

Polish news reported I think 9 killed. No one can get what they destroyed right either. I've seen it reported on Nexta as a landfill, and on Polish news as a UA Military compound where a month ago the US National Guard was training UA soldiers.

k0nr4d 03-14-2022 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 22977901)
Zelensky is Jewish actor. There’s rumors that he is in Poland Embassy, not sure if he is still in Ukraine, because if he gets captured or killed, It’s game over.

Actually, I did notice that he wears exact same shirt in every video. Could be because that's what they have on hand, could be because it allows them to film videos on different day and publish on different day, or maybe it's always the same green military-esque t-shirt in order to convey a specific mood or message.

One thing I always noticed about our politicians when they had any conference about COVID - sometimes they were all wearing ties, sometimes they all had no ties (as if to display "we worked all night on this" or something), sometimes they wave hands when speaking, others would always have hands on side of podium. Everyone was very clearly trained in what body language to use to convey a specific message.

askjoe 03-14-2022 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22977924)
I read on Polish news site that Russia has reportedly asked
China for weapons.

It´s fake from US.
Chinese embassy has never received any request regarding military assistance for russia.
This is the way media manipulates you to agree to send more weapons
The weapon manufacturers thanks you tax payers!

REUTERS : Chinese embassy says has never heard russian requests ukraine help 2022-03-13

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22977924)
They are getting a little too close for comfort to Poland. Missile attack today almost on
Polish border.

The accuracy has been estimated at 5-30 meters by non-Russian military experts from
various countries.Far away from Polish border and russia has no interest in further
conflict, it is your media controlled by the arms manufacturers who want it.



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Originally Posted by Scrapper (Post 22977791)
It took over 100 days for the most advanced military in the world with total air
dominance to take Iraq. So their military "experts" call Putin a failure because he didn't
take a country the size of Texas in two weeks?


:Oh crap It sounds like a competition, but the Russians don't think that way at all. On the contrary.
They think it is a pity that the operation has to be carried out.
On Russian television, there is a video of the drone that monitored the destruction of this
base/airport (Previously, it was analyzed whether they were soldiers or civilians.) ,
so Russia wants to stop the delivery of weapons.

k0nr4d 03-14-2022 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by askjoe (Post 22978170)
It´s fake from US.
Chinese embassy has never received any request regarding military assistance for russia.
This is the way media manipulates you to agree to send more weapons
The weapon manufacturers thanks you tax payers!

Maybe fake, maybe not. Not the first time a government would lie :1orglaugh


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Originally Posted by askjoe (Post 22978170)
The accuracy has been estimated at 5-30 meters by non-Russian military experts from
various countries.Far away from Polish border and russia has no interest in further
conflict, it is your media controlled by the arms manufacturers who want it.

I'm not concerned about a stray missile or something off target - I know they are accurate. Just saying that it's pretty close to our border.

I agree with you that there are countries with interests in this war continuing or with the threat of expanding. USA, Turkey, France, Germany, UK will make a killing on arms sales. For Polish government this fucking fell from heaven as well because it took all eyes off our horrible tax code reform and will give us a huge economic boost from the refugees and very good demographic boost from all the children that arrived as many families will simply stay here either because it's better economy/quality of life, or they simply have nothing to go back to anymore.

ZTT 03-14-2022 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrapper (Post 22977791)
military "experts" call Putin a failure because he didn't take a country the size of Texas in two weeks

Didn't someone explain that "This war has already been fought and won" and "Ukraine lost"? Happened last week apparently, a few days before the legendary Cyber Wars of 11 March.

Quote:

The Tribe-controlled media
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Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 22977901)
Zelensky is Jewish actor.

"Ukrainian Nazis" though...

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Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 22977932)
Russia destroyed mercenaries base in Ukraine near Poland borders. BBC told 20 people killed, Ukraine source told 35 people killed and Russia source told 185 people killed. Nobody can’t get their numbers straight.

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22978158)
Polish news reported I think 9 killed.

Do things that even five year-olds understand really confuse you this much?

Scrapper 03-14-2022 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22978179)
Didn't someone explain that "This war has already been fought and won" and "Ukraine lost"? Happened last week apparently, a few days before the legendary Cyber Wars of 11 March.

You need to work on your reading comprehension. I didn't mean that "literally" that week. The war is already been fought and won as the Ukrainians will beg for money until the very last moment, then run with it. Because Ukrainians are nothing more than beggars. Besides, don't try and distract from the point it took over 100 days for the most powerful military in the world to take Iraq with total air dominance. Why you military "experts" call Putin a failure because he didn't take a country the size of Texas in two weeks. That Ukrainian Slavic hahahaha shit does not work on me, clown.

ZTT 03-14-2022 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrapper (Post 22978185)
don't try and distract from the point it took over 100 days for the most powerful military in the world to take Iraq with total air dominance.

These 100+ days?

Start: 19 March 2003
End: 15 April 2003

Scrapper 03-14-2022 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ZTT (Post 22978201)
These 100+ days?

Start: 19 March 2003
End: 15 April 2003

Again, you need to work on your reading comprehension. The article that you posted clearly states "major" not total. Total took over 100 days. We didn't even capture Saddam until December. Six months later. His sons died at the end of July in a firefight with American troops.

O MARINA 03-14-2022 07:00 AM

More than 2,400 civilians have been killed in Mariupol since Russia invaded Ukraine last month, EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said today.

O MARINA 03-14-2022 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 22977872)
Its a lose lose situation honestly.



da ....

BaldBastard 03-14-2022 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrapper (Post 22978206)
Again, you need to work on your reading comprehension. The article that you posted clearly states "major" not total. Total took over 100 days. We didn't even capture Saddam until December. Six months later. His sons died at the end of July in a firefight with American troops.

100 days, a trillion dollars and then a billion every week they stayed there after, and in return these heavily sanctioned countries have never evolved from the dust bowls they became.

Ruskia doesn't have the money and sanctions on them are worse than Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria ever had. Russia doesn't have a 100 days until total economic collapse and then decades of poverty as slaves to China.

My concerns are not this war with Ukraine, but when the Ruskis detach from the propaganda machines and realise how utterly fucked their nations future is.

k0nr4d 03-14-2022 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22978229)
My concerns are not this war with Ukraine, but when the Ruskis detach from the propaganda machines and realise how utterly fucked their nations future is.

As much as people might like them to be, they are fucked for a year or two max before they are able to produce everything themselves at which point they won't give two shits. They don't even need to invent things anymore now that Russia has basically made any copyright and patent originating in a country sanctioning them as worthless. It's a huge country of 150 million people and every possible natural resource available within their own borders - they will manage just fine.

BaldBastard 03-14-2022 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22978237)
As much as people might like them to be, they are fucked for a year or two max before they are able to produce everything themselves at which point they won't give two shits. They don't even need to invent things anymore now that Russia has basically made any copyright and patent originating in a country sanctioning them as worthless. It's a huge country of 150 million people and every possible natural resource available within their own borders - they will manage just fine.


Gaddafi said that about Libyans.

A country is only as wealthy as their exports and Ruski exports have been kneecapped.

ZTT 03-14-2022 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrapper (Post 22978206)
Again, you need to work on your reading comprehension.

No, you need to work on remembering what you post here, though I can understand why you'd want to forget it.

You said "it took over 100 days for the most powerful military in the world to take Iraq". It didn't. It took about 3 weeks to "take Iraq" - that is defeat the Iraqi government and military. Even if you measure it by "Mission Accomplished" it's just about 5 weeks.

k0nr4d 03-14-2022 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22978251)
Gaddafi said that about Libyans.

A country is only as wealthy as their exports and Ruski exports have been kneecapped.


Libya is a desert, it does not have every resource needed to be self-sustaining.

ZTT 03-14-2022 09:38 AM

Hilarious watching Putinbots desperately trying to convince themselves that the sanctions - an "act of war", according to the man himself - are a good thing for Russia. Genuinely LOL funny.

We all remember the Soviet era: no copyright, with every natural resource within its own borders and with a GDP above Japan, not Mexico, what a utopia of plenty it was for the happy, contented population.

As for Libya being a "desert", were you always a total moron even before this war?

https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10...-intervention/


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