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Nydahl · 05-16-2003, 08:15 AM

we had a fucking chargeback last week.Total amount 2850 USD - 8 transactions made by one fucker who fraud some CCinfo.NOw
-I sent out the stuff for 2850 USD
-I lost that 2850 USD payment (its chargeback of course)
-I had to pay 8 x 15 USD of a chargeback fees
-My CCprocessor changed my onetime transaction limit to 500 USD(because I am high risk account now)
-and few minutes ago CCprocessor informed me that they keep 10000USD (in words tenthousandsUSdollars) as a holdback of my balance
what a wonderfull world.TGIF

d0se · 05-16-2003, 08:16 AM

bummer.

Nydahl · 05-16-2003, 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by d0se
bummer.

thanks for support - won't be forgotten

EscortBiz · 05-16-2003, 08:21 AM

sorry to hear that

Nydahl · 05-16-2003, 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
sorry to hear that

I don't care about holdback I am just pissed off to pay for some cheaters fraud

Danny_C · 05-16-2003, 08:31 AM

Damn, that's rough.

Machete_ · 05-16-2003, 08:32 AM

You know the shipping adress of the asshole, I would "visit" him

Nydahl · 05-16-2003, 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by ebus_dk
You know the shipping adress of the asshole, I would "visit" him

the owner of CC was a honest person - some fucker stole his CCinfo.I would bet he must be one of us - probably working for some adult company and has access to CC info
We send out stuff via email or ftp so doesn't matter about delivery adress

05-16-2003, 08:37 AM

dayum... unseenworld had similar problems a few weeks ago...

Roald · 05-16-2003, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by ebus_dk
You know the shipping adress of the asshole, I would "visit" him

Indeed swoit his ass

nuclei · 05-16-2003, 08:43 AM

NyDahl, when dealing with any large transaction always voice verify and always record the conversation.
Start out with Hello, This is [whatever] from [company] and I am trying to reach [FirstLast Name] to verify the sale of [Products].

Then you have a legal record when you sue their stupid ass.

Or if its a frauder you at least have their real telephone number. If the person on the phone says they have no idea hwo it is or what yer talking about credit the sale immediately and obviously dont send out product.

a1ka1ine · 05-16-2003, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei
NyDahl, when dealing with any large transaction always voice verify and always record the conversation.
Start out with Hello, This is [whatever] from [company] and I am trying to reach [FirstLast Name] to verify the sale of [Products].

Then you have a legal record when you sue their stupid ass.

Or if its a frauder you at least have their real telephone number. If the person on the phone says they have no idea hwo it is or what yer talking about credit the sale immediately and obviously dont send out product.

that is such good advice...

Machete_ · 05-16-2003, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nydahl

the owner of CC was a honest person - some fucker stole his CCinfo.I would bet he must be one of us - probably working for some adult company and has access to CC info

sure - but you said you "shipped" him something - that would not be the cheaters adress you got then

Nydahl · 05-16-2003, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei
NyDahl, when dealing with any large transaction always voice verify and always record the conversation.
Start out with Hello, This is [whatever] from [company] and I am trying to reach [FirstLast Name] to verify the sale of [Products].

Then you have a legal record when you sue their stupid ass.

Or if its a frauder you at least have their real telephone number. If the person on the phone says they have no idea hwo it is or what yer talking about credit the sale immediately and obviously dont send out product.

This wouldn't help me in this case.That fucker had full CC info including adress,phone number full name etc - of course he could change phone number (its not fixed with CC info to verify)
Also this could save me product but not chargeback fees and fucking 10K holdback
anyway you are right

Nydahl · 05-16-2003, 08:49 AM

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Originally posted by ebus_dk

sure - but you said you "shipped" him something - that would not be the cheaters adress you got then

I did but via email and it was registered on some Tanzania or what free email service

Joesho · 05-16-2003, 08:51 AM

Nuke the cheaters house!

Machete_ · 05-16-2003, 08:52 AM

$2850 over email - to a Tanzania E-mail ..

then you are asking for trouble man - that is a risky business stradegy :-/

easyfun · 05-16-2003, 08:53 AM

I bought some stuff off you a couple of weeks ago - I can't remember you asking for any web site info of where I would post the pics -
Would be a good idea to record this along with all transactions as this gives you the chance to verify names etc.
It's a real bummer getting caught like that.
I personally found your service very helpful (You had a few problems with your site and when I couldn't download the content you imediately uploaded to one of my servers -
Nice job, guys!
Hope you get your hands on the crook that stuffed you

tony286 · 05-16-2003, 08:56 AM

To me I would ship any order over $200 via fedex or ups and they have to sign for them if they want to pay by cc. If they want them quicker they can send you a wire or a money order or wait for their check to clear before sending the product.

Nydahl · 05-16-2003, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by easyfun
I bought some stuff off you a couple of weeks ago - I can't remember you asking for any web site info of where I would post the pics -
Would be a good idea to record this along with all transactions as this gives you the chance to verify names etc.
It's a real bummer getting caught like that.
I personally found your service very helpful (You had a few problems with your site and when I couldn't download the content you imediately uploaded to one of my servers -
Nice job, guys!
Hope you get your hands on the crook that stuffed you

this is a license issue but yo are right.I will do some things to protect myself against this
thanks for warm words - I am always happy to hear that you haven't a problem with us

Nydahl · 05-16-2003, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
To me I would ship any order over $200 via fedex or ups and they have to sign for them if they want to pay by cc. If they want them quicker they can send you a wire or a money order or wait for their check to clear before sending the product.

Its not possible - everybody needs stuff in few minutes after they purchase adn also not all of you are willing to pay fedex fees (its about 60 USD from here to US) and I can't pay fedex fees for 200 USD order

KRL · 05-16-2003, 09:00 AM

Processors don't want to be left holding the bag. It's understandable considering the nature of porn transactions compared to other transactions they handle. Its a high risk industry and everybody tries to cover their butts anyway they can.

Several years back when online processing was still in its infancy same type situation happened to me. We started processing more than the banks had set as monthly limits on our online merchant account, because of rapid growth, and they call up one day and start saying how we have to stop growing so fast. Imagine that dilema. You're building a new industry and the bank is saying slow down. They wanted us to put up $1 Million in personal collateral for every $1/2 million of transactions we had on balance through any 6 month period where someone could charge back. A fucking 2 to 1 ratio. It was insane.

Nydahl · 05-16-2003, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Processors don't want to be left holding the bag. It's understandable considering the nature of porn transactions compared to other transactions they handle. Its a high risk industry and everybody tries to cover their butts anyway they can.

Several years back when online processing was still in its infancy same type situation happened to me. We started processing more than the banks had set as monthly limits on our online merchant account, because of rapid growth, and they call up one day and start saying how we have to stop growing so fast. Imagine that dilema. You're building a new industry and the bank is saying slow down. They wanted us to put up $1 Million in personal collateral for every $1/2 million of transactions we had on balance through any 6 month period where someone could charge back. A fucking 2 to 1 ratio. It was insane.

hehe - it sounds unbelievable today

bank : slow down man - you are making too much money , you'll become too rich for us

tony286 · 05-16-2003, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nydahl

Its not possible - everybody needs stuff in few minutes after they purchase adn also not all of you are willing to pay fedex fees (its about 60 USD from here to US) and I can't pay fedex fees for 200 USD order

First off its pictures not serum for a snake bite lol. They can wait a couple of days. Or work the shipping into your price, which is better paying 60 to ship it or taking charge backs.

LadyMischief · 05-16-2003, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nydahl

I don't care about holdback I am just pissed off to pay for some cheaters fraud

That is the shits.. I hope they find the person and they are punished accordingly. Wishing you better luck in future, Nydahl

Betray · 05-16-2003, 01:21 PM

yea know what i didnt even read it.. but thats intresting

wouncie · 05-16-2003, 01:23 PM

Thats fucked

12clicks · 05-16-2003, 01:24 PM

there's no such thing as fraud on the internet. I've heard you punks say that over and over about cheating webmasters. I'm sure Nydahl didn't supply the proper stuff or something.

pornguy · 05-16-2003, 01:45 PM

Nydahl ,

Sorry to hear that I have purchased from you many times and have gotten great photos and service... It really sucks that some asshole does that and then drives your prices up on us all...

Have you ever thought of using digimarc on the photos?? That way you can track the photos. It is expensive, but it may help you.

Once again sorry to hear!!!

Tala · 05-16-2003, 01:48 PM

Dude, that fucking sucks.

Wish there was something that could be done to help.

05-16-2003, 08:15 AM	#1
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05-16-2003, 08:43 AM	#11
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05-16-2003, 08:53 AM	#18
easyfun Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 731	I bought some stuff off you a couple of weeks ago - I can't remember you asking for any web site info of where I would post the pics - Would be a good idea to record this along with all transactions as this gives you the chance to verify names etc. It's a real bummer getting caught like that. I personally found your service very helpful (You had a few problems with your site and when I couldn't download the content you imediately uploaded to one of my servers - Nice job, guys! Hope you get your hands on the crook that stuffed you __________________ <p><embed width="120" height="60" src="http://www.harlotcash.com/harlot_3.swf"><br> </p>

05-16-2003, 08:16 AM	#2
d0se Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Western Australia Posts: 1,225	bummer.

05-16-2003, 08:31 AM	#6
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05-16-2003, 08:32 AM	#7
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	You know the shipping adress of the asshole, I would "visit" him

05-16-2003, 08:37 AM	#9
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	dayum... unseenworld had similar problems a few weeks ago...

05-16-2003, 08:52 AM	#17
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	$2850 over email - to a Tanzania E-mail .. then you are asking for trouble man - that is a risky business stradegy :-/

05-16-2003, 08:56 AM	#19
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	To me I would ship any order over $200 via fedex or ups and they have to sign for them if they want to pay by cc. If they want them quicker they can send you a wire or a money order or wait for their check to clear before sending the product.

05-16-2003, 09:00 AM	#22
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Processors don't want to be left holding the bag. It's understandable considering the nature of porn transactions compared to other transactions they handle. Its a high risk industry and everybody tries to cover their butts anyway they can. Several years back when online processing was still in its infancy same type situation happened to me. We started processing more than the banks had set as monthly limits on our online merchant account, because of rapid growth, and they call up one day and start saying how we have to stop growing so fast. Imagine that dilema. You're building a new industry and the bank is saying slow down. They wanted us to put up $1 Million in personal collateral for every $1/2 million of transactions we had on balance through any 6 month period where someone could charge back. A fucking 2 to 1 ratio. It was insane. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

05-16-2003, 01:21 PM	#26
Betray Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 346	yea know what i didnt even read it.. but thats intresting

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05-16-2003, 01:24 PM	#28
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,800	there's no such thing as fraud on the internet. I've heard you punks say that over and over about cheating webmasters. I'm sure Nydahl didn't supply the proper stuff or something. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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