More than 50% of webservers run linux and bsd? - GoFuckYourself.com

Lane · 05-15-2003, 05:26 PM

i remember seeing here and there that more than half of the webservers use linux or bsd..

does anyone have a website that shows this info? if i'm wrong and windows is actually 50+% , that is ok too..

i'm still trying google but not successfull yet

ProTech · 05-15-2003, 05:33 PM

Your getting to much information from M$ salesmen.

While it is true that almost half of the companies on the internet today run windows servers it is not true that half the webservers are windows based.

Companies and Corporations use microsoft as thier internal servers because they are easier to find someone to maintain them and keep mailing accounts on. These servers are usually well hidden behind firewalls and not the webservers for the corporations.

The ratio of windows to *nix machines that actually run webservers is about 90% being *nix and 10% being windows.

Most companies today are moving away from windows machines and hiring outside *nix people to do thier daily maintainence of thier servers. This is largely in part to the many viruses that have cost these corporations millions of dollars in lost data on windows machines.

So while your right about half the companies using windows it's not relative to half the webservers being windows.

modF · 05-15-2003, 05:35 PM

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/we...er_survey.html

Doesn't prove your results though.

Lane · 05-15-2003, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by ProTech
Your getting to much information from M$ salesmen.

While it is true that almost half of the companies on the internet today run windows servers it is not true that half the webservers are windows based.

Companies and Corporations use microsoft as thier internal servers because they are easier to find someone to maintain them and keep mailing accounts on. These servers are usually well hidden behind firewalls and not the webservers for the corporations.

The ratio of windows to *nix machines that actually run webservers is about 90% being *nix and 10% being windows.

Most companies today are moving away from windows machines and hiring outside *nix people to do thier daily maintainence of thier servers. This is largely in part to the many viruses that have cost these corporations millions of dollars in lost data on windows machines.

So while your right about half the companies using windows it's not relative to half the webservers being windows.

uhm... i said that its 50+% *nix.. though i don't think its as high as 90%

Lane · 05-15-2003, 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by modF
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/we...er_survey.html

Doesn't prove your results though.

yea i've seen that

it doesnt suggest that *nix is over 50+% though.. but it most likely is.

ProTech · 05-15-2003, 06:12 PM

Heh start asking the datacenters then how many *nix to windows machines they have.

Your right it may not be 90% it may be 95%

Most datacenter customers on average for every 100 *nix machines they have they MAY and I stress MAY have 2 windows machines.

lyno · 05-15-2003, 06:35 PM

Hi.. just 2 cents from a newbee

most admins i know don´t like windows.. as far as i know there are a lot of windows servers but most sites are hosted on unix/linux machines. maybe thats the reason why:

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html
http://www.heise.de/ct/english/00/08/174/

Lane · 05-15-2003, 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by ProTech
Heh start asking the datacenters then how many *nix to windows machines they have.

Your right it may not be 90% it may be 95%

Most datacenter customers on average for every 100 *nix machines they have they MAY and I stress MAY have 2 windows machines.

i get your point but your numbers are off
this is not about today's popular professional web hosting companies. it's about the whole web. people even setup servers at their homes

roly · 05-15-2003, 07:17 PM

this might www.netcraft.com/survey/+proportion+of+unix+web+servers&hl=en&ie=UTF-8]help[/URL]

it doesn't like that url. the actual url takes you to their homepage but the cached google page is ok. search google for "proportion of unix web servers" and looked at the cached page for the top result. it looks to be aboput 67% unix (and rising) and 24% MS

thickman · 05-16-2003, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ProTech
Your getting to much information from M$ salesmen.

While it is true that almost half of the companies on the internet today run windows servers it is not true that half the webservers are windows based.

Companies and Corporations use microsoft as thier internal servers because they are easier to find someone to maintain them and keep mailing accounts on. These servers are usually well hidden behind firewalls and not the webservers for the corporations.

The ratio of windows to *nix machines that actually run webservers is about 90% being *nix and 10% being windows.

Most companies today are moving away from windows machines and hiring outside *nix people to do thier daily maintainence of thier servers. This is largely in part to the many viruses that have cost these corporations millions of dollars in lost data on windows machines.

So while your right about half the companies using windows it's not relative to half the webservers being windows.

Once again he posts without thinking. This is not true at all. There are more and more WINDOWS servers being put to use everyday for applications such as .NET, coldfusion and many other window only products. Ease of use is a HUGE seller for Windows Hosting. He is merely basing his opinion on his limited experience. Ready Hosting can attribute to this. Windows is a growing market, I highly doubt unix has it beat by 90% and I won't even bother to speculate. To say that IIS is not becoming a fastly popular web server to run for a lot of hosting companies is untrue and at best not well researched. Companies do not just use Windows for their internal networks, they do definitely run Windows Server hence why microsoft decided to market it.
Just be careful of listening to someone's opinion vs facts.

Ted

ronbotx · 05-17-2003, 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by roly
this might www.netcraft.com/survey/+proportion+of+unix+web+servers&hl=en&ie=UTF-8]help[/URL]

it doesn't like that url. the actual url takes you to their homepage but the cached google page is ok. search google for "proportion of unix web servers" and looked at the cached page for the top result. it looks to be aboput 67% unix (and rising) and 24% MS

Well I would say based on Netcraft and other thinggs I've seen, that there at 2 unix/linux servers for every Windoze server. I would also venture to say that the windows percentage is NOT going up , but detiorating at a gradual rate. .Net is also being adopted at a very slow rate and runs distant second Java EE....

In the adult biz, I would say that it runs about 90% Unix/Linux, whereas in the corporate intranet environment, Microsoft might have a 50% share there.

ServerGenius · 05-17-2003, 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by ronbotx

Well I would say based on Netcraft and other thinggs I've seen, that there at 2 unix/linux servers for every Windoze server. I would also venture to say that the windows percentage is NOT going up , but detiorating at a gradual rate. .Net is also being adopted at a very slow rate and runs distant second Java EE....

In the adult biz, I would say that it runs about 90% Unix/Linux, whereas in the corporate intranet environment, Microsoft might have a 50% share there.

Adult webserver hmmm maybe....but Adult is using also using
quite an amount of streaming servers and a lot of those are
Microsoft. Also quite a few shops seem to run on Windows servers

DynaMite

05-15-2003, 05:26 PM	#1
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	More than 50% of webservers run linux and bsd? i remember seeing here and there that more than half of the webservers use linux or bsd.. does anyone have a website that shows this info? if i'm wrong and windows is actually 50+% , that is ok too.. i'm still trying google but not successfull yet __________________

05-15-2003, 05:33 PM	#2
ProTech Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 73	Your getting to much information from M$ salesmen. While it is true that almost half of the companies on the internet today run windows servers it is not true that half the webservers are windows based. Companies and Corporations use microsoft as thier internal servers because they are easier to find someone to maintain them and keep mailing accounts on. These servers are usually well hidden behind firewalls and not the webservers for the corporations. The ratio of windows to nix machines that actually run webservers is about 90% being nix and 10% being windows. Most companies today are moving away from windows machines and hiring outside *nix people to do thier daily maintainence of thier servers. This is largely in part to the many viruses that have cost these corporations millions of dollars in lost data on windows machines. So while your right about half the companies using windows it's not relative to half the webservers being windows. __________________ http://protechhosting.com ProTech The gfy name formally known as JFPDude.

05-15-2003, 05:35 PM	#3
modF Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,888	http://news.netcraft.com/archives/we...er_survey.html Doesn't prove your results though. __________________ I do things skype:themodF

05-15-2003, 06:12 PM	#6
ProTech Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 73	Heh start asking the datacenters then how many nix to windows machines they have. Your right it may not be 90% it may be 95% Most datacenter customers on average for every 100 nix machines they have they MAY and I stress MAY have 2 windows machines. __________________ http://protechhosting.com ProTech The gfy name formally known as JFPDude.

05-15-2003, 07:17 PM	#9
roly Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,844	this might www.netcraft.com/survey/+proportion+of+unix+web+servers&hl=en&ie=UTF-8]help[/URL] it doesn't like that url. the actual url takes you to their homepage but the cached google page is ok. search google for "proportion of unix web servers" and looked at the cached page for the top result. it looks to be aboput 67% unix (and rising) and 24% MS Last edited by roly; 05-15-2003 at 07:23 PM..

05-15-2003, 06:35 PM	#7
lyno Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: On my way to Sirius1 Posts: 474	Hi.. just 2 cents from a newbee most admins i know don´t like windows.. as far as i know there are a lot of windows servers but most sites are hosted on unix/linux machines. maybe thats the reason why: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html http://www.heise.de/ct/english/00/08/174/