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Old 05-15-2003, 03:47 PM   #51
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Old 05-15-2003, 03:59 PM   #52
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BHM does indeed = Big Handsom Man and like Mandy said it is the kind of thing that attracts men more than women. Chubby Chaser is actually a gay term rather than a straight term.

For those wanting to know more about terms here is an article I wrote yonks ago:

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Old 05-15-2003, 04:04 PM   #53
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BHM does indeed = Big Handsom Man and like Mandy said it is the kind of thing that attracts men more than women. Chubby Chaser is actually a gay term rather than a straight term.

For those wanting to know more about terms here is an article I wrote yonks ago:

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Did I just read in your article that you consider it evil to give food to your plumper girlfriend?!
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I don't think I'm as hot as Mandy...but few BBWs are, IMHO.

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Did I just read in your article that you consider it evil to give food to your plumper girlfriend?!
I would think it wrong to give food to a fat person in order to force them to gain more weight.

Somehow, I think that's what she was getting at in that article.
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I would think it wrong to give food to a fat person in order to force them to gain more weight.

Somehow, I think that's what she was getting at in that article.
"You have pics of BBWs eating? This is what they are catering for."

She is neglecting a rather large other "fetish". But come to think of it, I think I've already had that discussion here before.
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"Let me dye my hair blonde, stuff some bags of salt water in my chest, fatten my lips... Im hot".

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I don't think I'm as hot as Mandy...but few BBWs are, IMHO.

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Old 05-15-2003, 04:20 PM   #61
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Girls are meant to have curves. And real women shouldn't be ashamed of having some "puppy fat" or a big ass. I blame the homosexual fashion designers whose influence on our culture (particularly in America) have brainwashed our society into thinking that women should have the shape of a young boy in order to be sexy.

I agree. Women are meant to have curves. Soft, curvy chicks are the best.
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I don't think I'm as hot as Mandy...but few BBWs are, IMHO.

Few women period, I think. Her face is just one of the greatest I've seen.
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this is a nice thread to not see the usual assholism running rampant...i was starting think GFY was overrun with kids that were into pubescent 18 year olds with no curves and no breasts....nice to hear a mans real opinion for once. I read in some survey some where that men prefer to "look" at skinny girls.. but prefer to actually sleep with women with a bit of meat on the bones .

great pics kelly and Mandy!
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this is a nice thread to not see the usual assholism running rampant...i was starting think GFY was overrun with kids that were into pubescent 18 year olds with no curves and no breasts....nice to hear a mans real opinion for once. I read in some survey some where that men prefer to "look" at skinny girls.. but prefer to actually sleep with women with a bit of meat on the bones .

great pics kelly and Mandy!
Why wouldn't men who like skinny girls be "real men"? It's all about personal preferences, and I think disqualifying preferences other than yours as not belonging to "real men" is a bit odd, at the very least...
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Why wouldn't men who like skinny girls be "real men"? It's all about personal preferences, and I think disqualifying preferences other than yours as not belonging to "real men" is a bit odd, at the very least...
you will see i put a mans "real" opinion..not a real mans opnion.... it is all in the preference.. but most of the guys on here will post pics of "youngsters" that barely have the body of a 12 yearl old boy let alone a women and they all go gaga over them..maybe i should have said a mature mans opinion and i am not meaning mature as in old.. just not immature..lol
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Old 05-15-2003, 05:10 PM   #66
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you will see i put a mans "real" opinion..not a real mans opnion.... it is all in the preference.. but most of the guys on here will post pics of "youngsters" that barely have the body of a 12 yearl old boy let alone a women and they all go gaga over them..maybe i should have said a mature mans opinion and i am not meaning mature as in old.. just not immature..lol
Sorry, misread that post. However, in this post you do exactly the thing I said you did, so apparently it was in order after all.
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I don't think I'm as hot as Mandy...but few BBWs are, IMHO.

Oh Thank you so much
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Few women period, I think. Her face is just one of the greatest I've seen.
WOW~ I'm very flattered!
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I like them both but for my tastes kelly has mandy beat because kelly has a more innocent look about her.

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Sorry, misread that post. However, in this post you do exactly the thing I said you did, so apparently it was in order after all.
i just cant win today..lol.. no matter how i try to explain it its not coming out right..

I should say that most guys on here dont start a thread with a hot bbw or plump girl and sing their praises.. they usually take the time to tear them apart.. ok..did that one come out right?
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I should say that most guys on here dont start a thread with a hot bbw or plump girl and sing their praises.. they usually take the time to tear them apart.. ok..did that one come out right?
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You look stoned in that pic.

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I've been thinking about this and decided that since most of the comments so far have been positive then maybe this might be a place to air my ego a bit. Normally I wouldn't open myself up on GFY but there seem to be a few sympathetic ears open this evening.


I've been overweight for around 5 years now. I have a very hard time with it. I'm probably a little smaller than that beautiful girl Mandy, but inside I feel like a beached whale. I had a baby in January and I've felt a little better since then as I'm obviously much smaller all of the sudden. The two things that REALLY bother me about myself are my double chin and the spare tire hanging off my hips. I stare in the mirror at my naked form and wish it would melt away. I HATE THAT I FEEL THIS WAY. My husband loves me just the way I am. I love him just the way he is - also overweight. It doesn't seem to help my self-esteem. It doesn't help that even my Mother says that I was prettier when I was slim. She doesn't mean to be cruel and doesn't know what she is saying as she has exactly the same issues with her body as I have with mine. There are millions of men in the world who don't think women should look like they never eat. So why is it that women as a whole think that we should diet and exercise to be as slim as possible. I have no aversions to eating healthily and exercising in the name of good health. But I am just so tired of hating myself. Girls, you seem so happy with the way you look. Can you guide me to something you did? Something you decided within yourselves? I want so much to be happy being a size 16-18 with a size 38C bosom. I want the happiness back that I felt when I was a size 8-10. I'm so happy with the rest of my life, why can't I be happy about me?

Finished gushing now. Thanks for listening - let the bashing begin.
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Girls, you seem so happy with the way you look. Can you guide me to something you did? Something you decided within yourselves?
No bashing here, my fellow-Liz. But what I have to say is probably going to earn me some bashing of my own, so bear with me. I am, in case people 'round here haven't figured it out yet, very much a feminist. My ideas and beliefs come from a very specific kind of Goddess-worshipping, womyn-power, dyke-centric kind of worldview, so YMMV and all that.

I finally decided to be happy with myself and my body when I realized that a lot of the pressure on women to conform to an impossible ideal comes from a very patriarchal, female-hating culture. If a woman is constantly unhappy with themselves, if they are constantly focusing their energies on being skinnier and prettier and better-whatever-better-means-this-week-according-to-Hollywood-et-al, they aren't going to have any energy left over to be assertive and demand more equality in the world around them.

Another factor for me that helps me love myself and my body is my religion. I am made in the Lady's image -- and the Goddess ain't no skinny little toothpick. Think of the Venus of Willendorf or any of the other thousands of paleolithic fertility goddess images: female figures with round hips and asses and bountiful breasts, the avatars of female fecundity that produced children and fed them, the echo of the bounty of the earth that fed and sustained all life.



I can't hate what I am when what I am is just like Her.

Lastly, I finally decided that there was enough goddamn hate to go around, and I wasn't going to keep it going by hating myself and what I look like. I've got too much to do, too big of a life to enjoy and grab hold of and celebrate for all its worth -- I'm NOT going to waste my time moaning and wailing that I'm too fat because somebody else said so. I say I'm just fine the way I am.
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No bashing here, my fellow-Liz. But what I have to say is probably going to earn me some bashing of my own, so bear with me. I am, in case people 'round here haven't figured it out yet, very much a feminist. My ideas and beliefs come from a very specific kind of Goddess-worshipping, womyn-power, dyke-centric kind of worldview, so YMMV and all that.

I finally decided to be happy with myself and my body when I realized that a lot of the pressure on women to conform to an impossible ideal comes from a very patriarchal, female-hating culture. If a woman is constantly unhappy with themselves, if they are constantly focusing their energies on being skinnier and prettier and better-whatever-better-means-this-week-according-to-Hollywood-et-al, they aren't going to have any energy left over to be assertive and demand more equality in the world around them.

Another factor for me that helps me love myself and my body is my religion. I am made in the Lady's image -- and the Goddess ain't no skinny little toothpick. Think of the Venus of Willendorf or any of the other thousands of paleolithic fertility goddess images: female figures with round hips and asses and bountiful breasts, the avatars of female fecundity that produced children and fed them, the echo of the bounty of the earth that fed and sustained all life.



I can't hate what I am when what I am is just like Her.

Lastly, I finally decided that there was enough goddamn hate to go around, and I wasn't going to keep it going by hating myself and what I look like. I've got too much to do, too big of a life to enjoy and grab hold of and celebrate for all its worth -- I'm NOT going to waste my time moaning and wailing that I'm too fat because somebody else said so. I say I'm just fine the way I am.
This is a beautiful post. Thanks Liz. I feel like you do. Nice to see another follower of her loveliness who's not afraid to show it. Do you have icq?
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Damn, I love you ladies.

I could be all mushy and gooey and say something about the innerbeauty of woman here, but I'll let my libido do the talking and say that i find heavier women just as hot (in many cases hotter) than "fit" ones.

I'm a heavy chick myself, and can't help but appreciate heavier women. Some days I have a real problem with being heavy, and other days I'm just fine with it. I figure surely if I weren't attractive, I wouldn't have gotten married to a man who deigned to live with me for two years prior.

Much love to the bigger ladies.
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This is a beautiful post. Thanks Liz. I feel like you do. Nice to see another follower of her loveliness who's not afraid to show it. Do you have icq?
Yep, I have ICQ, the number is in my sig. My cable connection keeps dropping on and off for me, so consequently I'm on and off ICQ. My status says "away", and I leave it like that all the time, so go ahead and ICQ me if you want. It may take me a minute or two to get back to you if I'm on, and if you don't hear from me after 20 min or so I've probably gone to bed.

Look forward to chatting with you!
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Okay, I gotta post :-)

Im a BBW, I love my body, and I love my girls to me around my size and shape. :-) Men, I run the entire spectrum of what I like, from itty bitty skinny guys that I want to break, to frat boy types, to BHM.

Mandy, you going to Internext? We should meet up :-) Are you attending the Amateur Roundtable?

I never felt comfortable with my size until I started dating a few guys that loved my ass. Then I got hooked up with Jenmarie of curvycash (see sig) and the pictures that I took for her turned out awesome!
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Did I just read in your article that you consider it evil to give food to your plumper girlfriend?!

sorry it took me so long to reply, I posted that just before I went to bed.

Okay, is it evil to give your gf food? Of course not and in anycase I was using evil very loosley. What I was reffering to in my article was Feederism which any BBW here that has moved around the BBW community long enough will have encountered. If you want to eat and get bigger - bully for you.

I am all about size acceptance and that means being happy with yourself regardless of size. So, I think the ultra skinny women should love themselves just as much as I think the really really big women should. What I don't like (and of course this is my personal opinion) is the guys that message me wanting to force feed me until I am so large I have mobility problems. You may say there aren't many that want to do that but trust me you would be suprised.

As I said my article part of my dislike of it is wanting to change me. It would be just like a BF getting off on strapping me to a chair and wiring my jaw shut until I lost massive amounts of weight. For me, I don't understand how it is sexy.

That said, I have a number of friends that find it sexy and good on them if it gets them off and both are willing parties. The problem is that there is often a very predetory nature to the feeders. See, 'coming of age' of a BBW is usually a progressive thing.

Few women are born with the confidence of the BBWs you are seeing poting here. Most start out as that fat girl in school that gets made fun of everyday and who has been told throughout her life that she will never get a man.

So, one day she discovers the BBW community of the size acceptance movement and somehting makes her dip her toe into the world. Still, she convinces herself that she could never feel about herself the way 'those women' do. She looks on with a slight bit of envy, especially when she hears and sees the men they are with and how desired they are. Slowly she moved into the world, walks a little bit more upright, holds her head that little bit higher and suddenly she starts getting nibbles from men.

Oh boy, new world here - she might not be all that undesired after all. Yet, in the back of her head she is still convincing herself that she will fall short of what *even* these men want. Then she gets messaged or chatted up by a guy who can't stop telling her how wonderful she looks. He gets her confidence, she is doing mental back flips and then the feeding subject comes up.

Of course she will do it because she loves him, fancies him or just plain doesn't want to be rejected (again). Some of the feeders (and yes of course not all of them, I have met some lovely guys into it) can smell that lack of confidence a mile off and use it to find women that will let them force feed them.

So, yes unless the photographer really doesn't have any knowledge of the BBW niche/community then pics of BBWs eating is a nod to the feeder world. Is that wrong? No, not really. As you said, it is a large fetish and it is there to be exploited. I am not saying anyone shouldn't promote it. I am just saying that on a personal level as someone who has had feeders sniff around me on more than one ocassion that I don't like the fetish.
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Thanks ladies for the words of wisdom and emotional support. I think I may just need to sit down with myself and give 'me' a good talking to. Once I sort my head out, my heart will follow.


Sarah - After reading this thread, I'm sure you'll identify with this. WHY WHY WHY do the high street retailers make all the nice clothes for the thin bitches? DP sometimes do a few nicer things and Debenham's new Designer range is ok more often than not too but Evans and Etam are just horrible! Why do they think we want to wear big floaty things that cover the little shape we have rather than designing clothes that enhance our curves? There is a new catalogue they've been plugging on the tele - Simply Be - I may have to get one and see if they are any better. I have considered blowing up my local TopShop on more than one occasion! most high street clothing retailers
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sorry it took me so long to reply, I posted that just before I went to bed.

Okay, is it evil to give your gf food? Of course not and in anycase I was using evil very loosley. What I was reffering to in my article was Feederism which any BBW here that has moved around the BBW community long enough will have encountered. If you want to eat and get bigger - bully for you.

I am all about size acceptance and that means being happy with yourself regardless of size. So, I think the ultra skinny women should love themselves just as much as I think the really really big women should. What I don't like (and of course this is my personal opinion) is the guys that message me wanting to force feed me until I am so large I have mobility problems. You may say there aren't many that want to do that but trust me you would be suprised.

As I said my article part of my dislike of it is wanting to change me. It would be just like a BF getting off on strapping me to a chair and wiring my jaw shut until I lost massive amounts of weight. For me, I don't understand how it is sexy.

That said, I have a number of friends that find it sexy and good on them if it gets them off and both are willing parties. The problem is that there is often a very predetory nature to the feeders. See, 'coming of age' of a BBW is usually a progressive thing.

Few women are born with the confidence of the BBWs you are seeing poting here. Most start out as that fat girl in school that gets made fun of everyday and who has been told throughout her life that she will never get a man.

So, one day she discovers the BBW community of the size acceptance movement and somehting makes her dip her toe into the world. Still, she convinces herself that she could never feel about herself the way 'those women' do. She looks on with a slight bit of envy, especially when she hears and sees the men they are with and how desired they are. Slowly she moved into the world, walks a little bit more upright, holds her head that little bit higher and suddenly she starts getting nibbles from men.

Oh boy, new world here - she might not be all that undesired after all. Yet, in the back of her head she is still convincing herself that she will fall short of what *even* these men want. Then she gets messaged or chatted up by a guy who can't stop telling her how wonderful she looks. He gets her confidence, she is doing mental back flips and then the feeding subject comes up.

Of course she will do it because she loves him, fancies him or just plain doesn't want to be rejected (again). Some of the feeders (and yes of course not all of them, I have met some lovely guys into it) can smell that lack of confidence a mile off and use it to find women that will let them force feed them.

So, yes unless the photographer really doesn't have any knowledge of the BBW niche/community then pics of BBWs eating is a nod to the feeder world. Is that wrong? No, not really. As you said, it is a large fetish and it is there to be exploited. I am not saying anyone shouldn't promote it. I am just saying that on a personal level as someone who has had feeders sniff around me on more than one ocassion that I don't like the fetish.
Well, I can most certainly understand your dislike for that type of feeding. Wanting to change a person is almost always a bad thing, and something like force-feeding is one of the worst exponents of that.

However, you seem to be overlooking that there is also a completely different side to food and bbw (plural?) that doesn't even touch on this subject, that even might be the complete opposite.

Food is enjoyable. A large, cheesy pizza, or a big juicy steak, or a large piece of french bread with roast beef and eggs, or maybe italian bread with chorizo, mozzarella and pesto - yummy to all of them.

Society has tried to make food taboo. A "real" woman doesn't eat two pizza's, or a pound of roast beef, or an entire french bread with petrella. Instead, she eats a tiny salad with a glass of mineral water, and complains about her weight and her illusionary "huge" ass. That sucks.

To me, there is nothing more attractive than a woman who says "fuck you" to society, and just enjoys food because she likes it. Not because she wants to get fatter, not because she wants to get thinner, but simply because she likes eating.

In many cases, bbw is also associated with that. Not with the fat chick timidly looking around while she's eating a twinkie, but with the plump, sexy, confident woman who's happily eating a large steak while drinking down a pint of beer.
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Well, I know next to nothing about shopping anywhere but in the US, and my cheap-ass self mostly shops at Wal-Mart/Target/Fashion Bug simply because I don't leave the house often enough to justify fancy clothes, but I totally agree with you about all the nice clothes being made for thinner women.

My pet peeves with shopping for clothes as a size 24:

-- All I want is a pair of shorts that aren't printed with cabbage roses or technicolor-yawn Hawaiian prints, goddammit -- I KNOW my ass is big, and I don't want to make myself look like a fucking reupholstered sofa.

-- I want dresses that show off my figure, like Beastiepoo said, and not look like Omar the Tentmaker put them on clearance. I have a small waist, and I'll be damned if I'm going to cover it up.

-- I want a swimsuit that doesn't have any of the following: a skirt or goddess help me, a SKORT; big-ass bows on the boobs or butt; no polka-dots, I am not your maiden Aunt Esther; more of the aforementioned godawful Hawaiian prints. I work out three times a week, in the pool, and I want a nice, simple, athletic-style swimsuit that doesn't make me look like I'm wearing a fucking Victorian bathing costume. If people get upset by the fat chick showing some skin, they can fucking well look away.

-- I want lingerie that doesn't look like I'm about to take out my teeth and hop into bed with my senile husband...most nightgowns I can actually look at in a physical store around here are of the cotton housecoat and muumuu variety. I f I want something sexy, I have to order it online and pay about $30 more for it than a smaller woman would. And I don't always want something sexy -- most of the time I sleep in tank tops and boxers! There are tons of cute tank/boxers pajamas out there for smaller women now, but my fat ass has to settle for crappy men's A shirts and boxers from a big men's store.

Arrrgh...I'm getting all wound up now. I don't mind being big, I LIKE the way I look...but my life would be a whole lot easier if I could just go naked all the time, because finding clothes that I can wear that don't make me want to barf is just way harder than it needs to be...
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Exactly my point Liz. It doesn't seem to have gotten QUITE that bad here in the UK yet (although my Mother In Law does her best to prove me wrong - she's a size 26 - by buying the most GODAWFUL clothes they can put on the rack) but they still don't make the clothes I want to wear in my size. I want to wear colourful, young looking tops and sweaters with fun jeans and corduroy. I want to wear shorts that aren't so short that they ride up on my thighs that don't happen to be stick shaped. Nor do I want to be condemned to the 'Capri Pant' that encases my legs as if they are things to be hidden. Regardless of my issues with my size (which I am even now working on) my legs have always been my best asset. They still are and I want clothes that will show them off without making me feel like a sausage. I don't want to wear clothes designed for the 35-50 set, I'm 24 for fuck's sake. A young mother who still feels 17 in a lot of ways. Where are the fun clothes for the bigger woman?

Note to self, must go along to the website for this catalogue and order one before I blow my top!
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My mother in law is the same way...she wears t-shirts with Winnie the Pooh on them and polyester pants in colors nature never even dreamed of. At least since we moved out of her area she's quit buying clothes for me as gifts...

I think I have pretty nice legs, too, and I have the same problem finding clothes that show them off. I also have the added problem of being 5'5" -- which isn't very tall at all, but apparently the designers and makers of plus size women's clothing think that all big women are 5 feet tall and shaped like chubby little butterballs. Most pants and jeans are too short for my legs, yet if I buy the tall sizes they puddle around my ankles.

And I'm shaped like two apples stacked on top of each other -- round on top/small waist/round hips/slender legs -- so if I buy pants that fit me in the waist, they're too small for my hips; if I buy them to fit my hips and belly, they're too big at my waist; and no matter what I do, the pants legs flap like empty sails.

And I understand what you mean about plus size clothes being too old...I may be 30, but I'm not ready for Grandma-clothes just yet.

And don't even get me started about trying to find fetish-wear in my size...the only place I've found so far that I like is
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Thanks ladies for the words of wisdom and emotional support. I think I may just need to sit down with myself and give 'me' a good talking to. Once I sort my head out, my heart will follow.


Sarah - After reading this thread, I'm sure you'll identify with this. WHY WHY WHY do the high street retailers make all the nice clothes for the thin bitches? DP sometimes do a few nicer things and Debenham's new Designer range is ok more often than not too but Evans and Etam are just horrible! Why do they think we want to wear big floaty things that cover the little shape we have rather than designing clothes that enhance our curves? There is a new catalogue they've been plugging on the tele - Simply Be - I may have to get one and see if they are any better. I have considered blowing up my local TopShop on more than one occasion! most high street clothing retailers
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I think I have pretty nice legs, too, and I have the same problem finding clothes that show them off. I also have the added problem of being 5'5" -- which isn't very tall at all, but apparently the designers and makers of plus size women's clothing think that all big women are 5 feet tall and shaped like chubby little butterballs.

Damn, that is so true, I'm 5'10 and everything in my size seems aimed at tiny shapeless butterballs, I want something to show off my legs and curves not drown them!
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Punkworld - oh, I totally agree with you..there. I am totally into the 'fuck off soceity' world nd the BBWs that don't give a shit that someone is going to make a comment to them if they are god forbid seen eating in public. They rock!

Beasite - God does the plus sized clothing situation in the UK suck. Ladybwear is UK based but god everything else is so crap. It is nearly impossible to get clothing that isn't owned by every other BBW in the country.

I was once in the Regent Street branch of Evans and one of the buyers for the chain just so happened to be there. A mother and daughter cornered him and were bitching to him about how the sizing is never right on the clothing. He admitted right there and then that all they do is size up the same designs they sell at TopShop (owned by the same people). They don't recut or take into consideration that clothing hangs differently on different people.

This is perhaps clearest when it comes to their seriously crap bras. Okay..BBW tits have extra bumps..we have that bit under the arm that isn't really a tit but looks like it should be. If you are just sizing up a 32 A cup bra then it simply is not going to fit my 46D boobs the same way.

Everytime I go home to the states I save money and come home with some half decent clothing at prices far more realistic than the stuff over here.

And don't even get me started on the price of shoes in this country. They really need to bring payless shoes over here.
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oh and I can imagine it is a problem being tall and fat but being short and fat is a problem too. I'm 5ft2 I can't get trousers that don't have the crotch at my navel or legs I don't have to hem.
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oh and I can imagine it is a problem being tall and fat but being short and fat is a problem too. I'm 5ft2 I can't get trousers that don't have the crotch at my navel or legs I don't have to hem.
Babe, at least you can hem up the trousers (you shouldn't have to!!) but on me full length jeans look so stupid, I have 2 pairs of jeans that come down to my ankle bones and I looooove them so much!
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No bashing here, my fellow-Liz. But what I have to say is probably going to earn me some bashing of my own, so bear with me. I am, in case people 'round here haven't figured it out yet, very much a feminist. My ideas and beliefs come from a very specific kind of Goddess-worshipping, womyn-power, dyke-centric kind of worldview, so YMMV and all that.

I finally decided to be happy with myself and my body when I realized that a lot of the pressure on women to conform to an impossible ideal comes from a very patriarchal, female-hating culture. If a woman is constantly unhappy with themselves, if they are constantly focusing their energies on being skinnier and prettier and better-whatever-better-means-this-week-according-to-Hollywood-et-al, they aren't going to have any energy left over to be assertive and demand more equality in the world around them.

Another factor for me that helps me love myself and my body is my religion. I am made in the Lady's image -- and the Goddess ain't no skinny little toothpick. Think of the Venus of Willendorf or any of the other thousands of paleolithic fertility goddess images: female figures with round hips and asses and bountiful breasts, the avatars of female fecundity that produced children and fed them, the echo of the bounty of the earth that fed and sustained all life.



I can't hate what I am when what I am is just like Her.

Lastly, I finally decided that there was enough goddamn hate to go around, and I wasn't going to keep it going by hating myself and what I look like. I've got too much to do, too big of a life to enjoy and grab hold of and celebrate for all its worth -- I'm NOT going to waste my time moaning and wailing that I'm too fat because somebody else said so. I say I'm just fine the way I am.
Honey, I've always been caught up in alternative religions, this is one that I find it hard to find a good site where I can read up on and get my teeth into, do you have any good resource sites you could point me to - pretty please?
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