sic cash redirects german traffic - webmaster get´s nothing, nice!! - GoFuckYourself.com

funkmaster · 05-12-2003, 03:04 PM

http://www.sicgalleries.com/gallerym...xxxx&site=nhsm

-> http://www.ficktipps.com/index.php?c...ed1&pin=505603

justsexxx · 05-12-2003, 03:06 PM

Also Dutch traffic....

Andre

kios · 05-12-2003, 03:09 PM

and swedish traffic...

Sly_RJ · 05-12-2003, 03:10 PM

And American traffic...

Mr.Fiction · 05-12-2003, 03:10 PM

Maybe it's in the terms of service.

BVF · 05-12-2003, 03:12 PM

wow....Germans spend money!! They're up there with the UK and Canada!!! I don't think they beat France, but there are a LOT of Germans who spend money on porn....

If they don't accept the German traffic, I sure hope they give you an option where to send it...if not, they're raping you because those Germans are paying for SOMETHING....

BVF · 05-12-2003, 03:15 PM

Fuck I didn't even view that link you posted.....I TOLD you that they were sending that traffic somewhere cause those Germans spend money!!

They're redirecting your traffic and sending it to that shit???

I'm Flabberghasted.....

viplog · 05-12-2003, 03:23 PM

german, nl or be traffic is excellent when you work with dialers
we make 2K per month with this traffic

gregtx · 05-12-2003, 04:02 PM

Siccash is conducting dialer filtering tests. Surfers from filtered countires are most likely not able to signup for the site anyways.

Many sponsors filter ALL traffic to their tours, we do not.

We will run this test for a few days as we try to justify the balance of large bandwidth bills these hosted galleries rack up.

Feel free to contact me if you have any other questions

Thanks for your support:

12clicks · 05-12-2003, 04:07 PM

Germans don't have money. everyone knows that.

funkmaster · 05-12-2003, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
Germans don't have money. everyone knows that.

... world´s best kept secret revealed, now what ?

clubsexy · 05-12-2003, 04:12 PM

How come the only way the webmasters find out about this redirecting is through a board or from a surfer and not usually the sponsor program??

Sic isn't the only one doing it. There are dozens of programs starting it. The problem is I am not in a filtered country and I don't find out until it's too late.

Reminds me of the birth of popup windows on paysites. Taking your traffic and funneling them into programs you don't get paid for. Now it's just standard practice to take entry and exit hits and no one complains.

Soon people will just be stuck with the fact that some countries traffic will not be making them money. Unless a sponsor does the right thing and splits dialer or alternate revenue with the webmasters sending them the filtered country hits in the first place.

Might help some of us actually pay the bandwidth huh??

WiredGuy · 05-12-2003, 04:16 PM

Exactly what greg said... most of the countries that sponsors do filter are "unbillable" countries by credit card or checks. To offset the bandwidth costs, most sponsors will redirect to dialers. While not too many companies will go out publicly and state we won't pay for certain countries, webmasters can install geo-tracking themselves and avoid sending traffic so sponsors who won't pay for certain countries. I'm not sure why germany is on that list, but that's SIC's choice to make and if you don't like it, you can just avoid sending german hits to them.

WG

SykkBoy · 05-12-2003, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by clubsexy

Soon people will just be stuck with the fact that some countries traffic will not be making them money. Unless a sponsor does the right thing and splits dialer or alternate revenue with the webmasters sending them the filtered country hits in the first place.

Might help some of us actually pay the bandwidth huh??

why don't you filter that traffic yourself before sending it to a sponsor in the first place? ;))

BVF · 05-12-2003, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Exactly what greg said... most of the countries that sponsors do filter are "unbillable" countries by credit card or checks.
WG

Germany is FAR from "unbillable".....Poland...yes...Germany, Hell no....I don't even push white girls and I have a small niche site and even I know that when I see a signup with that .de extension, I know it's gold!!

Germans spend money and they DO have credit cards....I'm a witness to it...

whee · 05-12-2003, 04:37 PM

Just like join4free
goddamnit!

Quotealex · 05-12-2003, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SykkBoy2

why don't you filter that traffic yourself before sending it to a sponsor in the first place? ;))

How can you when you don't even know which countries a sponsor will redirect traffic? They should be upfront and tell us what countries they don't traffic from...

WiredGuy · 05-12-2003, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BVF
Germany is FAR from "unbillable".....Poland...yes...Germany, Hell no....I don't even push white girls and I have a small niche site and even I know that when I see a signup with that .de extension, I know it's gold!!

Germans spend money and they DO have credit cards....I'm a witness to it...

See my original post above...
"I'm not sure why germany is on that list, but that's SIC's choice to make"

WG

gregtx · 05-12-2003, 04:55 PM

again.. this is just a test.. if we decided to keep it.. i'm sure we would tweak the countries...

not trying to be deceptive... just trying to maximize our dollar.. sol that we can offer our webmasters more

Brad Mitchell · 05-12-2003, 06:06 PM

You guys wanted $35 to $40 per signup... what did you think the traffic was actually worth that? lol

Brad

12clicks · 05-12-2003, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster

... world´s best kept secret revealed, now what ?

clickenzy ehr, clickenzy ehr.

WendyB · 05-12-2003, 07:41 PM

thanks for the heads up.

KRosh · 05-12-2003, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SykkBoy2

why don't you filter that traffic yourself before sending it to a sponsor in the first place? ;))

AMEN to that.

Instead of bitching about getting screwed fix the problem!

Alex From Montreal... there are resources out there that tell you what countries are billable and what are not ...just send your Non-Billable to the sponsor

SleazyDream · 05-12-2003, 07:51 PM

pre-paid is the only way to go. that way if someone fucks with gallery you already got their money and can cancel the postings.

less chance of cheating

El Pres · 05-12-2003, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Exactly what greg said... most of the countries that sponsors do filter are "unbillable" countries by credit card or checks.

They redirect Spain aswell,
I use my creditcard to sign up for sites,
I also did when I lived in Holland and the transactions went through every time.

Checking my own members,
I have sales from most European countries,
so I don't think that they are unbillable.

And if they are going to use a dialer,
don't use an international dialer for Spain,
use a fucking local one, get paid twice the rate and get many
more minutes because its a Spanish number and not an international one.

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kios Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 544	and swedish traffic...

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viplog Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Austria Posts: 71	german, nl or be traffic is excellent when you work with dialers we make 2K per month with this traffic __________________ viplog

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gregtx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,929	Siccash is conducting dialer filtering tests. Surfers from filtered countires are most likely not able to signup for the site anyways. Many sponsors filter ALL traffic to their tours, we do not. We will run this test for a few days as we try to justify the balance of large bandwidth bills these hosted galleries rack up. Feel free to contact me if you have any other questions Thanks for your support: __________________ Processing Partners http://www.processingpartners.com

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clubsexy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 1,630	How come the only way the webmasters find out about this redirecting is through a board or from a surfer and not usually the sponsor program?? Sic isn't the only one doing it. There are dozens of programs starting it. The problem is I am not in a filtered country and I don't find out until it's too late. Reminds me of the birth of popup windows on paysites. Taking your traffic and funneling them into programs you don't get paid for. Now it's just standard practice to take entry and exit hits and no one complains. Soon people will just be stuck with the fact that some countries traffic will not be making them money. Unless a sponsor does the right thing and splits dialer or alternate revenue with the webmasters sending them the filtered country hits in the first place. Might help some of us actually pay the bandwidth huh??

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WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	Exactly what greg said... most of the countries that sponsors do filter are "unbillable" countries by credit card or checks. To offset the bandwidth costs, most sponsors will redirect to dialers. While not too many companies will go out publicly and state we won't pay for certain countries, webmasters can install geo-tracking themselves and avoid sending traffic so sponsors who won't pay for certain countries. I'm not sure why germany is on that list, but that's SIC's choice to make and if you don't like it, you can just avoid sending german hits to them. WG __________________ I play with Google.

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gregtx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,929	again.. this is just a test.. if we decided to keep it.. i'm sure we would tweak the countries... not trying to be deceptive... just trying to maximize our dollar.. sol that we can offer our webmasters more __________________ Processing Partners http://www.processingpartners.com

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