Celeb Content - Can I rob? - GoFuckYourself.com

Krome · 05-08-2003, 06:23 AM

I have no intention on doing this as I do not have a full time lawyer which I presume you need to run a celeb site.

I just want to know though can I just join a few celebs site download the lot and use that as content for a site? I am pretty sure no-one has ever purchased footage from main stream agencies for their sites. I maybe wrong but this could be done?

Groove · 05-08-2003, 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by Krome
I have no intention on doing this...

Krome · 05-08-2003, 07:03 AM

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Originally posted by Groove

ok I am going to do it and register the site in someone elses name....I knew I would be found out in this thread....I hoped though that it would not be the second post in the thread!!!

Also one more thing which processor will take a celeb site?

KRL · 05-08-2003, 07:03 AM

Krome · 05-08-2003, 07:07 AM

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ok I admit it I have been cought with my pants down...now silence this laughter you nutters!!!

Actually which processor will pay money into and off shore account and not give my address to Pamela Andersons lawyers?

Groove · 05-08-2003, 07:19 AM

I live in Australia, so I'm no expert on UK or US law. But my understanding is that unlicensed celebrity content is illegal under US law. That is unless it's used to illustrate a story, review or commentary in which case it's protected under US free speech laws. Hence the fact that MrSkin.com (which offers movie reviews and actor biographies) is apparently 100% legal.

As for stealing content from sites that stole the content in the first place, you're probably no more breaking the law than they are, ie. the site probably can't sue you, but the celeb or the copyright holder probably could

I've no idea if any of this applies in the UK.

Smells like a can of worms to me

strobi · 05-08-2003, 07:21 AM

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Originally posted by Krome

ok I admit it I have been cought with my pants down...

Krome · 05-08-2003, 07:25 AM

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Originally posted by Groove
But my understanding is that unlicensed celebrity content is illegal under US law. That is unless it's used to illustrate a story, review or commentary in which case it's protected under US free speech laws. Hence the fact that MrSkin.com (which offers movie reviews and actor biographies) is apparently 100% legal.

so if I wrote bio's etc about the celebs I am safe....can I use you as my legal advisor in court?

Groove · 05-08-2003, 07:28 AM

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Originally posted by Krome
Actually which processor will pay money into and off shore account and not give my address to Pamela Andersons lawyers?

Russian processors are probably the way to go

Unless of course Pamie's lawyers bribe them

Groove · 05-08-2003, 07:35 AM

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so if I wrote bio's etc about the celebs I am safe....

If you're going to be sued in a US court, probably yes.

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can I use you as my legal advisor in court?

I normally require a retainer of US$10,000/day.

But I currently have an amazing GFY sale...

only US$1,000/day

Krome · 05-08-2003, 08:25 AM

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Originally posted by Groove

I normally require a retainer of US$10,000/day.

But I currently have an amazing GFY sale...

only US$1,000/day

Sounds cheap at twice the price!

Groove · 05-08-2003, 08:37 AM

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Sounds cheap at twice the price!

OK we have a deal

The clock starts NOW...

ICQ me when you get arrested

If you join BP4L Boneprone will post bail

Krome · 05-08-2003, 08:43 AM

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OK we have a deal

The clock starts NOW...

ICQ me when you get arrested

If you join BP4L Boneprone will post bail

The police are on there way and I have yet to finish the tour....I think this is a bad idea!!! How can Boneprone post bail? Him and I usually have adjoining cells.....

Groove · 05-08-2003, 08:52 AM

Sleepy now (almost 2am in Sydney), going to bed...

Suggest you start writing those reviews and bios!!!

Will send your first invoice Monday

Krome · 05-08-2003, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by Groove
Sleepy now (almost 2am in Sydney), going to bed...

Suggest you start writing those reviews and bios!!!

Will send your first invoice Monday

Ok cool....just one more thing can I blatantly rob the whole of Mr Skin?

Why · 05-08-2003, 11:14 AM

from my understanding you sure as hell can.

get a host and a mailing address in amsterdam

cheaper then an attorney.

Mutt · 05-08-2003, 11:21 AM

all celeb webmasters do steal from each other, this is how that biz evolved.

but i'm wondering if say you stole Mr. Skin's scans and videos if he could do anything about it legally. I don't think so, all he's done I assume is slap a URL watermark on videos he has no ownership of.

Krome · 05-08-2003, 11:28 AM

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from my understanding you sure as hell can.

get a host and a mailing address in amsterdam cheaper then an attorney.

I will have to fire Groove then!!

Looks like Mrskins.com will be opening soon....My lawyer is Groove and I am based in Amsterdam...no way I can lose!

Groove · 05-08-2003, 07:08 PM

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Originally posted by Krome
Ok cool....just one more thing can I blatantly rob the whole of Mr Skin?

Apparently a large amount of Mr Skin's content is supplied directly by the movie studios (they see it as good publicity for their films). But hey, I guess it doesn't make much difference who you steal it from. It's hot content either way

Groove · 05-08-2003, 07:15 PM

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I will have to fire Groove then!!

OK, no problem

That'll be $1,000 for the first day's retainer... Oh yes and I almost forgot... there's also an $8,000 Administration Fee. I did warn you about the administration fee, didn't I?

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My lawyer is Groove and I am based in Amsterdam...no way I can lose!

I thought you fired me?

Krome · 05-18-2003, 12:28 PM

Groove I would never fire you.....do you have broadband? you can be my attorney plus fellow content thief?

05-08-2003, 06:23 AM	#1
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05-08-2003, 11:21 AM	#17
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	all celeb webmasters do steal from each other, this is how that biz evolved. but i'm wondering if say you stole Mr. Skin's scans and videos if he could do anything about it legally. I don't think so, all he's done I assume is slap a URL watermark on videos he has no ownership of. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

05-08-2003, 07:19 AM	#6
Groove Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,852	I live in Australia, so I'm no expert on UK or US law. But my understanding is that unlicensed celebrity content is illegal under US law. That is unless it's used to illustrate a story, review or commentary in which case it's protected under US free speech laws. Hence the fact that MrSkin.com (which offers movie reviews and actor biographies) is apparently 100% legal. As for stealing content from sites that stole the content in the first place, you're probably no more breaking the law than they are, ie. the site probably can't sue you, but the celeb or the copyright holder probably could I've no idea if any of this applies in the UK. Smells like a can of worms to me

05-08-2003, 08:52 AM	#14
Groove Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,852	Sleepy now (almost 2am in Sydney), going to bed... Suggest you start writing those reviews and bios!!! Will send your first invoice Monday

05-08-2003, 11:14 AM	#16
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	from my understanding you sure as hell can. get a host and a mailing address in amsterdam cheaper then an attorney.

05-18-2003, 12:28 PM	#21
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	Groove I would never fire you.....do you have broadband? you can be my attorney plus fellow content thief?