Is this Biz fading? - GoFuckYourself.com

thesexattic · 05-07-2003, 11:08 AM

I do alot of marketing. A ton of it is PPC. The bids and advertisers are dropping like flies. My conversions are fine still across all the networks I use. Kanoodle, search123, and a little findwhat. Anyone here a past or current PPC or SE user experiencing the same thing?

Spunky · 05-07-2003, 11:09 AM

Yes, get out now while you can

NetRodent · 05-07-2003, 11:10 AM

The business is dying. Run away. Don't look back.

Mutt · 05-07-2003, 11:12 AM

you just noticed this?

but if you're not having any troubles converting you are in good shape cuz the herd is being thinned, no doubt about that.

Gutterboy · 05-07-2003, 11:12 AM

Too much free porn!

FlyingIguana · 05-07-2003, 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
you just noticed this?

but if you're not having any troubles converting you are in good shape cuz the herd is being thinned, no doubt about that.

thinned? i bet for every person who quits, two more join the action.

quiet · 05-07-2003, 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy
Too much free porn!

too much free porn!!

NoCarrier · 05-07-2003, 11:16 AM

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Too much free porn!
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Originally posted by quiet

too much free porn!!

too much free porn but We need more free porn to keep the surfers happy.

dmv69 · 05-07-2003, 11:16 AM

i hear the sky is falling too, anyone heard that lately?

pornJester · 05-07-2003, 11:17 AM

ya, this business is fading quick, i'm just in it for the spanking material.

DarkJedi · 05-07-2003, 11:19 AM

i think we need more free porn to keep the surfers around

Joesho · 05-07-2003, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

too much free porn!!

I believe that all the free porn was put out there by the right wing republicans. To overload and devalue the market!

Joesho · 05-07-2003, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by pornJester
ya, this business is fading quick, i'm just in it for the spanking material.

do you mean to tell me that you can make money by doing this? gooohhhlllyyyy,

is any body selling a how to book?

PaulSweet · 05-07-2003, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by dmv69
i hear the sky is falling too, anyone heard that lately?

What is a 'sky' anyways?

gruffy · 05-07-2003, 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by thesexattic
I do alot of marketing. A ton of it is PPC. The bids and advertisers are dropping like flies. My conversions are fine still across all the networks I use. Kanoodle, search123, and a little findwhat. Anyone here a past or current PPC or SE user experiencing the same thing?

If you are talking about the SE/PPC angle its quite simple - when advertisers buy large volumes of useless traffic and see no return they don't come back to buy again.

Selling useless traffic however, can make a lot of money these days.

Which side do you want to be on?

Traffic lesson #1: Anyone selling traffic is selling it because they can't convert it themselves. Do you want to buy sloppy seconds?

Sarah_Jayne · 05-07-2003, 11:44 AM

so try selling them more than just more porn. Toys, pills, etc...everyone one offers more of the same. Give them something different to buy. Get creative.

mule · 05-07-2003, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by sarah_webinc
so try selling them more than just more porn. Toys, pills, etc...everyone one offers more of the same. Give them something different to buy. Get creative.

Yeah! And spam them with anti-spam tools while you're at it.

thesexattic · 05-07-2003, 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by gruffy

If you are talking about the SE/PPC angle its quite simple - when advertisers buy large volumes of useless traffic and see no return they don't come back to buy again.

Sell?

If you think PPC is useless thats why there is less competiton. I'll take it all day. I am not leaving the biz....I was just seeing why its thinning outside of the obvious....

FlyingIguana · 05-07-2003, 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by gruffy

Traffic lesson #1: Anyone selling traffic is selling it because they can't convert it themselves. Do you want to buy sloppy seconds?

thats not true.

there are a variety of factors involved including risk(don't have to worry about the billing company holding money, company going belly up, etc), wanting to be prepaid and letting people who can convert the traffic buy it.

do you think the owner of sex.com can sell every single niche with the same success as people involved in that niche?

Brujah · 05-07-2003, 12:50 PM

Public Domain is where it's at.

KRL · 05-07-2003, 12:53 PM

Yes, 6.7 Billion people have lost their sex drive and are now just surfing for pics of Jesus and the Virgin Mary.

detoxed · 05-07-2003, 12:55 PM

fading like the sun

polish_aristocrat · 05-07-2003, 02:18 PM

is the traffic from Kanoodle and Search 123 better than from 7 search ?

SexSpaceman · 05-07-2003, 02:18 PM

Hey Sex Attic,

Hit me up at Sex.Com for some PPC traffic. 25% match on your initial deposit to give us a try and only a $25 minimum deposit

Thanks...

[email protected]
ICQ 160804042

Shoplifter · 05-07-2003, 02:26 PM

Sorry I can't hear you my machine is too loud.

Lane · 05-07-2003, 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by Shoplifter
Sorry I can't hear you my machine is too loud.

only 10's?

Libertine · 05-07-2003, 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
Yes, 6.7 Billion people have lost their sex drive and are now just surfing for pics of Jesus and the Virgin Mary.

Think about this one for a sec.

Mr. Jim · 05-07-2003, 03:50 PM

yes!

leave now while you still have a chance man!!!

MetaMan · 05-07-2003, 03:56 PM

its called create new ideas,
think outside the box!
ever heard of this!?

stop thinking u r gonna succeed off of an idea just because someone else did,

no business is dying, all businesses are just thinning out the uncreative and copiers,

if it sounds to good to be true it is!

Shoplifter · 05-07-2003, 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by Lane

only 10's?

Yah just until WSB decides to pay me.

FlyingIguana · 05-07-2003, 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by MetaMan
its called create new ideas,
think outside the box!
ever heard of this!?

stop thinking u r gonna succeed off of an idea just because someone else did,

no business is dying, all businesses are just thinning out the uncreative and copiers,

if it sounds to good to be true it is!

outside the box? all this time i thought i was suppose to get inside the box...

gruffy · 05-07-2003, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

thats not true.

there are a variety of factors involved including risk(don't have to worry about the billing company holding money, company going belly up, etc), wanting to be prepaid and letting people who can convert the traffic buy it.

do you think the owner of sex.com can sell every single niche with the same success as people involved in that niche?

Yes, in the case of sex.com and google I would agree with you.

In the case of %99 of "traffic brokers" and ppc se's I would strongly disagree with you.

I SALE TRAFFIX!

FlyingIguana · 05-07-2003, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by gruffy

Yes, in the case of sex.com and google I would agree with you.

In the case of %99 of "traffic brokers" and ppc se's I would strongly disagree with you.

I SALE TRAFFIX!

99%? way too high. most of the traffic that is brokered is from large sites. they can bring in the traffic, but that doesn't mean they can maximize their returns by selling to that traffic.

gruffy · 05-07-2003, 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana
but that doesn't mean they can maximize their returns by selling to that traffic.

My point exactly.

IntenseCash · 05-07-2003, 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
i think we need more free porn to keep the surfers around

More!? More!? Free Porn!? I think there is too much already!

I say down with all tgps... then everyone had to purchase porn...
Muahahahaha!!

Porn Mickey · 05-07-2003, 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by spunky1
Yes, get out now while you can

good advice

Porn Mickey · 05-07-2003, 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy
Too much free porn!

maybe, but take a look @ some guys. they are so richy!

quiet · 05-07-2003, 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

outside the box? all this time i thought i was suppose to get inside the box...

i keep my new girlfriend in a box.

Porn Mickey · 05-07-2003, 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier
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too much free porn but We need more free porn to keep the surfers happy.

TGP2

FlyingIguana · 05-08-2003, 05:22 AM

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Originally posted by gruffy

My point exactly.

it doesn't mean their traffic is bad, it means they aren't as good at selling to traffic as they are at generating that traffic.

that traffic could be worth more to someone else than it is worth to them. you're just saying the traffic is being sold because it sucks, and most of the time thats simply not the case.

Theo · 05-08-2003, 05:25 AM

thesexattic, whats your icq?

Interlude · 05-08-2003, 07:46 AM

GET OUT!

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thesexattic Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Somewhere Under Your Pubies! Posts: 256	Is this Biz fading? I do alot of marketing. A ton of it is PPC. The bids and advertisers are dropping like flies. My conversions are fine still across all the networks I use. Kanoodle, search123, and a little findwhat. Anyone here a past or current PPC or SE user experiencing the same thing? __________________ Free $5 PPC trial account with Kanoodle.com

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MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	its called create new ideas, think outside the box! ever heard of this!? stop thinking u r gonna succeed off of an idea just because someone else did, no business is dying, all businesses are just thinning out the uncreative and copiers, if it sounds to good to be true it is!

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