AI for porn is going to get people fed up very soon

[DVTimes]

About 3 years ago I was blown away with making pics with AI.

They were not great, but it was fun to see what you can make.

Fast forward to now and AI is now making vids that often I am not sure is real or not.

But I am already fed up with it.

It reminds me of how people used to use the skin smoothing thing in art software almost on full so people looked like they had plastic skin.

Its getting dull and often now I want real, even if its not as good.

In the same way computer graphics in film is soooooo boring. I prefer the old fashioned models and stop motion.

So I think AI porn will be interesting for a year or so, but then people will get fed up of it.

One area that AI will do well is such as web design and so on.

I remember paying $50 for a simple cartoon. Now an app on my phone does this for free and better and gives me a few different ones instantly.

[AmeliaG]

So you make porn and feel what you make is better ... but you'd hire web designers and illustrators, so you think AI work is best there?

[Look Chang]

Just tell me how to penetrate an AI pussy . . .

[Publisher Bucks]

The same generic 'tits and ass' porn will get boring for consumer, just like in regular production porn.

As with production content, markets change, tastes differ, the issue is that AI porn is still in its infancy and has developed enough yet to offer consumers niche-specific content, once that happens, there will be no stopping it.

Imagine a couple of years ago if somone generated AI porn and used it on a site where all the models had missing limbs, extra fingers, fucked up bodily dimensions and the stuff people were complaining made AI porn unrealistic and billed it as a 'Gimp' niche site... Theyd have made a small fortune...

[celandina]

... Most porn is made by those who do NOT know any better, but there are some who are getting there.... like here:

https://www.spankinglibrary.com/clip...s.php?id=61872

unfortunately not too many will watch 5 min "nothing but spanking or whipping" composed of 7 second shots. In a longer format the viewer would get dizzy.

If this had a longer shots and some longer story and a bit of " lesbian sex", I would pay for it.

It is just about a bit more time and some creative talent

It is already in the mainstream FROM LAST WEEK CANNES FF...."



It is INEVITABLE

[Publisher Bucks]

Originally Posted by celandina

... Most porn is made by those who do NOT know any better

This is in effect, the truth about 99.99% of people in the industry today.

They throw the same ol' shit up as everyone else and wonder why they're not making sales when the content they're using has been seen hundreds of times before by the surfer.

AI is definitely the future, we just have to wait until its available en mass to produce porn that can be as niche specific as a transsexual, midget, asian amputee porn site could be... Until we can get niche specific AI porn, its just throwing the same looking shit at a wall and hoping some of it sticks.

Even with erotic stories, many AI system balk at shemale/tranny erotic content, even when framed as romance like anyone can buy at their local BN store.

[Huggles]

People should check this out and see Google's latest huge update... the tools are advancing so fast!



Watch the custom tool part.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Huggles

People should check this out and see Google's latest huge update... the tools are advancing so fast!



Watch the custom tool part.

Hmm, but will it do porn ( in my case lesbian) in shots at least 15 sec. long? I guess NOT, since I did NOT find anybody yet who can do that for a fee.... So Google can

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

This is in effect, the truth about 99.99% of people in the industry today.

They throw the same ol' shit up as everyone else and wonder why they're not making sales when the content they're using has been seen hundreds of times before by the surfer.

AI is definitely the future, we just have to wait until its available en mass to produce porn that can be as niche specific as a transsexual, midget, asian amputee porn site could be... Until we can get niche specific AI porn, its just throwing the same looking shit at a wall and hoping some of it sticks.

Even with erotic stories, many AI system balk at shemale/tranny erotic content, even when framed as romance like anyone can buy at their local BN store.

That is NOT what I meant,, all these creepy niches, they only sell to very narrow audience and it is impossible to find a legit payment processor....and one of :" here is my hotmail, Pay Pal me 10 bucks and I give you link" is NOT to get rich on. What I meant is " Gladiator" with " tits and ass"..... that is where I am heading ( I hope)

[adultinnovation]

Its only going to get better,, not worse..

5 years from now you'll be watching porn videos and not knowing is its real or AI.

Eventually it will get so powerful and easy to use that kids will be making Hollywood quality movies in their bed rooms

this is now... imagine 10 years from now

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by adultinnovation

Its only going to get better,, not worse..

5 years from now you'll be watching porn videos and not knowing is its real or AI.

Eventually it will get so powerful and easy to use that kids will be making Hollywood quality movies in their bed rooms

this is now... imagine 10 years from now

The evolution of Will Smith eating spaghetti is now a year old...

[Publisher Bucks]

Originally Posted by adultinnovation

Eventually it will get so powerful and easy to use that kids will be making Hollywood quality movies in their bed rooms

100%

Unless the governments get their money hungry hands on AI by passing bills to limit its commercial usage in order to 'protect the kids' of course.

Shit, I doubt half the current politicians around the globe know how to use a fucking smartphone without the help of one of their aides these days, especially all of the old fuckers we have in the House and Senate that continually want to legislate the internet when they just dont understand how the real world works and have the technical knowledge of a snail

[Mahadeva]

Originally Posted by celandina

Hmm, but will it do porn ( in my case lesbian) in shots at least 15 sec. long? I guess NOT, since I did NOT find anybody yet who can do that for a fee.... So Google can

I can do that. I have a proprietary system I developed to make it work. What are you trying to make?

[Huggles]

I bet I know what is going to happen...

People will make AI porn of two characters and it will be the first #1 AI porn hit... Then two people who look exactly like the AI characters will be "discovered" and then the real life sex will be filmed and get the money and attention

I bet it will happen

[cordoba]

So you're getting bored of AI porn and that means everybody else will? Character.ai already gets around 1/3 of the web based traffic Chaturbate does - and that doesn't include the millions of people using the app. Something like 1/3 of the top 50 AI related sites are AI porn or AI companion sites. And they are crap compared to what they will be in 3 or 5 years time.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by adultinnovation

Its only going to get better,, not worse..

5 years from now you'll be watching porn videos and not knowing is its real or AI.

Eventually it will get so powerful and easy to use that kids will be making Hollywood quality movies in their bed rooms

this is now... imagine 10 years from now

You are 100 % correct, BUT did you notice that "porn" AI is lagging behind mainstream? Usually it was the other way around. Porn was first to switch from film to tape and then from tape to hard drives. A few may remember VHS rentals ...Also porn really did NOT embrace 3 D or VR.... Porn people knew better. So, all these AI servers banning porn.... Hopefully somebody figures out work around soon The one who does will become billionaire

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by adultinnovation

Its only going to get better,, not worse..

5 years from now you'll be watching porn videos and not knowing is its real or AI.

Eventually it will get so powerful and easy to use that kids will be making Hollywood quality movies in their bed rooms

this is now... imagine 10 years from now

You are 100% correct that in less than 5 years, you will probably go online, and type you want to see a new Star Wars or Alien or any type of film, or music or book, or magazine and so on and have it made for you, with it looking perfect, probably for free, and in a few mins.

And we will see film after film on peoples YouTube channels.

But this will become boring quickly.

We know this will fail as we see films made today using computer graphics failing as people now have had enough of them.

People want real and value.

This is why AI porn will fail.

People want to see real people, not fake.

People will also see no value in AI porn, as they will know it cost nothing to make.

There is something about the old 1970's and 1980's porn films, that look more quality than modern porn, is that they look like people spent money on them.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by cordoba

So you're getting bored of AI porn and that means everybody else will? Character.ai already gets around 1/3 of the web based traffic Chaturbate does - and that doesn't include the millions of people using the app. Something like 1/3 of the top 50 AI related sites are AI porn or AI companion sites. And they are crap compared to what they will be in 3 or 5 years time.

People told me the same thing about 3D porn, and VR porn.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

This is in effect, the truth about 99.99% of people in the industry today.

They throw the same ol' shit up as everyone else and wonder why they're not making sales when the content they're using has been seen hundreds of times before by the surfer.

AI is definitely the future, we just have to wait until its available en mass to produce porn that can be as niche specific as a transsexual, midget, asian amputee porn site could be... Until we can get niche specific AI porn, its just throwing the same looking shit at a wall and hoping some of it sticks.

Even with erotic stories, many AI system balk at shemale/tranny erotic content, even when framed as romance like anyone can buy at their local BN store.

Funny how people told me the same thing about 3D porn and VR porn.

One of the problems with porn online is that people turned to gimmicks and technology and moved away from making quality or interesting content.

[DVTimes]

Where AI porn and non porn may work long term is such as VR where you could talk to a model, and have sex with her, with the AI producing the graphics and speech in real time.

[Publisher Bucks]

Originally Posted by celandina

You are 100 % correct, BUT did you notice that "porn" AI is lagging behind mainstream? Usually it was the other way around. Porn was first to switch from film to tape and then from tape to hard drives. A few may remember VHS rentals ...Also porn really did NOT embrace 3 D or VR.... Porn people knew better. So, all these AI servers banning porn.... Hopefully somebody figures out work around soon The one who does will become billionaire

The industry hasnt innovated in a good 20+ years... The last 'innovation' I can genuinely think of was when AEBN came out with their vapes, way before vapes were hugely popular, even then, they were licensing NASA tech I beleive.

Everything else in the industry since then has basically been evolution, not revolution.

[The Porn Nerd]

If you know what to look for you can almost always tell if something is AI (writing, music, videos, etc). While things will improve mankind cannot generate something natural. It will always be a simulation.

[CaptainHowdy]

Us people tend to get fed up of pretty much anything rather quickly. . .

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

You are 100% correct that in less than 5 years, you will probably go online, and type you want to see a new Star Wars or Alien or any type of film, or music or book, or magazine and so on and have it made for you, with it looking perfect, probably for free, and in a few mins.

I fully believe this. You will go to AI and say "make me the next chapter of Star Trek" and it will put together an entire movie for you.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I fully believe this. You will go to AI and say "make me the next chapter of Star Trek" and it will put together an entire movie for you.

This is probably going to be soon.

When you think about it, AI can already produce a story, then a script.

A film or TV show is made up of lots of basically short clips, edited together, so AI only has to produce lots of short clips, one long clip would be huge power, but lots of few seconds, is what they produce now.

So you should not just enter "make me the next chapter of Star Trek", but state what director style you like. Do you want it to look 35mm, or widescreen, or whatever.

I would presume that already today the TV and film firms already have AI produce ideas for TV and films, then produce a story, then a script, then a storyboard.

I would presume also that backgrounds are created in AI.

I suspect that today you could create a hit pop song in AI.

The truth is, AI will replace many jobs.

I have said it before, that you soon will not bother going to your doctor as your phone will have AI in it that will give you better results than a doctor. So even being a doctor is not a safe job.

I think it was even in the 1980's that if you look online, a doctor (I think he may have been American), worked with a team to produce a basic question software and he said that the software was better than him when it came to working out a problem with someone's health. And that was the 1980's.

[DVTimes]

The thing I am surprised I have not seen yet, is people on this forum promoting pay sites that are 100% AI generated.

Both content and the site itself.

No need for having to shoot models and learning how to film.

Any fantasy can now be done.

You could have a full porn site set in middle ages in England, full of knights and castles. Something that would cost thousands in real life to shoot (costumes, models, finding castles to shoot from). All made in seconds, for basically free.

Or even using your real content, but shot in a studio, then telling AI to place the model in a sandy beach, or even have her dressed in costumes.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Publisher Bucks

The industry hasnt innovated in a good 20+ years... The last 'innovation' I can genuinely think of was when AEBN came out with their vapes, way before vapes were hugely popular, even then, they were licensing NASA tech I beleive.

Everything else in the industry since then has basically been evolution, not revolution.

Sad but true... I still hope that somebody will break the 6 sec. maximum ( to at least 20 seconds) and will figure out how to " uncensor" the adult stuff

[celandina]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

The thing I am surprised I have not seen yet, is people on this forum promoting pay sites that are 100% AI generated.

Both content and the site itself.

No need for having to shoot models and learning how to film.

Any fantasy can now be done.

You could have a full porn site set in middle ages in England, full of knights and castles. Something that would cost thousands in real life to shoot (costumes, models, finding castles to shoot from). All made in seconds, for basically free.

Or even using your real content, but shot in a studio, then telling AI to place the model in a sandy beach, or even have her dressed in costumes.

see my Variety front page ( above) and weep....

But this is NOT true:"

No need for having to shoot models and learning how to film.

I am NOW, for over six months, trying to "reason" with geeks to create AI stuff for me....So far, most of them have NO cinematic concept. I am teaching them the very basics and they do NOT comprehend it until maybe 5th try. Some just give up. So you do need to know how to film.

[SEXCESS]

Real models apply so much filtering and photoshopping, the AI images start to look more and more realistic. And AI slop is so easy to generate it will just overwhelm the market. It doesn't matter if it is good or not.

[cordoba]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

People told me the same thing about 3D porn, and VR porn.

VR porn is as popular as it ever was (and it's the progression of 3D porn) so people did not get bored of it. It's a pretty poor comparison anyway as VR porn is limited by hardware whereas AI porn is not and probably improves more in 10 weeks than VR porn has in 10 years. It's also way more popular than VR porn ever has been already.

TBH, the very fact that you're still in the UK as an adult webmaster indicates you might not exactly have your finger on the pulse.

[cordoba]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

The thing I am surprised I have not seen yet, is people on this forum promoting pay sites that are 100% AI generated.

Both content and the site itself.

No need for having to shoot models and learning how to film.

Any fantasy can now be done.

You could have a full porn site set in middle ages in England, full of knights and castles. Something that would cost thousands in real life to shoot (costumes, models, finding castles to shoot from). All made in seconds, for basically free.

Or even using your real content, but shot in a studio, then telling AI to place the model in a sandy beach, or even have her dressed in costumes.

So a website that charged people for ready-made AI content would get a lot of paying members, when those members can do all that themselves?

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by cordoba

So a website that charged people for ready-made AI content would get a lot of paying members, when those members can do all that themselves?

It is a failed business model as clearly people will just provide free websites to do this, so a business built of a pay model will fail, as free ones take over.

In fact if AI was to be a success then every porn tube site would add this and automatically upload the generated content to there site.

In fact if AI porn was successful it is likely that is what porn tubes would move towards.

[Mahadeva]

Originally Posted by celandina

Sad but true... I still hope that somebody will break the 6 sec. maximum ( to at least 20 seconds) and will figure out how to " uncensor" the adult stuff

I'm confused as to why that's so difficult in your case. Just write a custom Python wrapper, load the model weights, LORAs, CLIP models, etc, and direct a multi-stage workflow. Set your progressive weights when you change the LORAs or attention settings (or massively change the prompt step-to-step), and generally stick with Euler and an RTX5090 for "most" workloads.

There isn't some black magic voodoo to it. 30 seconds is no sweat, and there is no "censorship" with any reasonable model.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

You are 100% correct that in less than 5 years, you will probably go online, and type you want to see a new Star Wars or Alien or any type of film, or music or book, or magazine and so on and have it made for you, with it looking perfect, probably for free, and in a few mins.

If it gets that good then I don't think it will stay free.
Some company will try to "corner the market".

Hollywood would want to limit the availability of AI movie making to it's
studios only. This way they can release 50 block busters a year and not compete with
a million people making movies every year.
So they would try to buy out the AI companies and shut everyone else out.
Or the AI companies will realize they can charge a lot of money because people are
making millions from posting the AI movies.

Too much free porn wiped out tons of websites, so too much free AI could leave no one
making money.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

People told me the same thing about 3D porn, and VR porn.

I think this is different. 3D / VR Porn had all kinds of problems. It was expensive to shoot, it was clumsy to view properly, required expensive hardware for users to view, provided limited content, etc. AI porn is easy to make, easy to watch, and practically free. It also has endless, endless possibilities. Whatever the user can imagine, he can make.

[Huggles]

What if people get bored of porn?

I think I wouldn't mind porn in a video game if I had to earn the sex

But there is so much sex everywhere now, it's like... uhhh... other than bouncing boobies, I don't even like to look at anything else sexual. It doesn't have the same thrill it once did!

Big bouncing tits on X, there are so many great animations... free.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Mahadeva

I'm confused as to why that's so difficult in your case. Just write a custom Python wrapper, load the model weights, LORAs, CLIP models, etc, and direct a multi-stage workflow. Set your progressive weights when you change the LORAs or attention settings (or massively change the prompt step-to-step), and generally stick with Euler and an RTX5090 for "most" workloads.

There isn't some black magic voodoo to it. 30 seconds is no sweat, and there is no "censorship" with any reasonable model.

I am NOT a geek and DO NOT WANT TO BECOME ONE!!! I make MOVIES the old fashion way BUT want to switch to AI. To that end I need an AI creator who can fucking listen... Hooking up 3 x 7 sec. shots with visible glitches and calling it 20 sec. shot DOES NOT cut it, or exiting screen left and entering also screen left in the next shot ..... Your LORAS RTX5090 progressive weights and the rest of a " mumbo jumbo" is as clear to me as this, to put it simply:



So, if you can make sexy 20 seconds clip in a quality which looks natural let me know, and also since I would be paying you, you need to fucking listen. If you cannot and/or want to stay poor like some of them... then wrap it in your custom Python wrapper and or.. It is your choice.

[Mahadeva]

Originally Posted by celandina

I am NOT a geek and DO NOT WANT TO BECOME ONE!!! I make MOVIES the old fashion way BUT want to switch to AI. To that end I need an AI creator who can fucking listen... Hooking up 3 x 7 sec. shots with visible glitches and calling it 20 sec. shot DOES NOT cut it, or exiting screen left and entering also screen left in the next shot ..... Your LORAS RTX5090 progressive weights and the rest of a " mumbo jumbo" is as clear to me as this, to put it simply:

So, if you can make sexy 20 seconds clip in a quality which looks natural let me know, and also since I would be paying you, you need to fucking listen. If you cannot and/or want to stay poor like some of them... then wrap it in your custom Python wrapper and or.. It is your choice.

I'm sorry if I implied I would do this for money. I was simply telling you the "how" to help you do it yourself (or find someone who can). I'm not some contractor off the street (no offense to those who are).

But yes, you can make very long movies that aren't "stitched together clips," etc. I'd upload an example, but GFY is running software too old to support something like that.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by celandina

So, if you can make sexy 20 seconds clip in a quality which looks natural let me know, and also since I would be paying you, you need to fucking listen. If you cannot and/or want to stay poor like some of them... then wrap it in your custom Python wrapper and or.. It is your choice.

Okay, what resolution does the output need to be at minimum? 9:16 or 16:9?

[Peace]

I think AI will be fine where it is labeled and rights-clean. The fatigue comes when every site fills gaps with same-face synthetic content and users stop trusting what they see. Real verified performers still have value.

[cordoba]

https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...porn,vr%20porn

The graph for AI porn looking more like that for HD porn rather than VR porn.

BTW, there were literally people here 15 years ago saying that HD was over-hyped, would never catch on, too costly to produce, stream, and download, and it was useless in porn anyway because it showed flaws in skin etc.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Mahadeva

I'm sorry if I implied I would do this for money. I was simply telling you the "how" to help you do it yourself (or find someone who can). I'm not some contractor off the street (no offense to those who are).

But yes, you can make very long movies that aren't "stitched together clips," etc. I'd upload an example, but GFY is running software too old to support something like that.

OK I am glad you did NOT get mad.... and NO, I did NOT imply you would do this for money... I hope you would, because I would pay for such a service....and most geeks around here are not contractors of the street BUT contractors still living in the mom's basement

as to the 20 sec. clip you can create ( prefer lesbian) upload it somewhere and PM me the link or ask some geek here how to get it to me.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Huggles

Okay, what resolution does the output need to be at minimum? 9:16 or 16:9?

16:9, stereo, 1080.... ( no music).

[Mahadeva]

Originally Posted by celandina

OK I am glad you did NOT get mad.... and NO, I did NOT imply you would do this for money... I hope you would, because I would pay for such a service....and most geeks around here are not contractors of the street BUT contractors still living in the mom's basement

as to the 20 sec. clip you can create ( prefer lesbian) upload it somewhere and PM me the link or ask some geek here how to get it to me.

I'm happy to help out if I can, in case that wasn't clear. I wasn't just typing for the sake of typing. It's almost silly easy to make nowadays, compared to even 6 months ago. I don't currently make lesbian genre, so it'll take some time to get it right.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Mahadeva

I'm happy to help out if I can, in case that wasn't clear. I wasn't just typing for the sake of typing. It's almost silly easy to make nowadays, compared to even 6 months ago. I don't currently make lesbian genre, so it'll take some time to get it right.

.... I have time, happy to wait.