US suspends nuclear arms treaty with Russia.

[2MuchMark]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/01/polit...peo/index.html

[OneHungLo]

How confused are you dumb libs right now? lol

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

How confused are you dumb libs right now? lol

[crockett]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

How confused are you dumb libs right now? lol

This is a gift to Russia what are you trying to say? Russia a dictatorship has to answer to no one so they will immediately start working on new weapons if they weren't already..(most likely they were)

Meanwhile in the US it takes 10+ years to get funding for new programs because Congress can't even pass a budget..

You dumb fool, Trump just did Russia's bidding again..

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

How confused are you dumb libs right now? lol

Not confused - I know Trump is an idiot. No confusion there at all. Trump himself on the other hand...

[seeandsee]

make nukes and have fun trumpy

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by crockett

This is a gift to Russia what are you trying to say? Russia a dictatorship has to answer to no one so they will immediately start working on new weapons if they weren't already..(most likely they were)

Meanwhile in the US it takes 10+ years to get funding for new programs because Congress can't even pass a budget..

You dumb fool, Trump just did Russia's bidding again..

Anything that helps Russia and Putin makes the Trump cultists happy.

[Bladewire]

↑↑↑ Truth

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

How confused are you dumb libs right now? lol

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by crockett

This is a gift to Russia what are you trying to say? Russia a dictatorship has to answer to no one so they will immediately start working on new weapons if they weren't already..(most likely they were)

Meanwhile in the US it takes 10+ years to get funding for new programs because Congress can't even pass a budget..

You dumb fool, Trump just did Russia's bidding again..

Originally Posted by RedFred

Anything that helps Russia and Putin makes the Trump cultists happy.

How many idiots live on this planet... Russian IRBM's (intermediate-range missiles) have a zero threat for the USA, because they can't reach it. Only ICBM's can do it but they are not included into the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty.

Russian IRBM's can be used against NATO countries in the EU only, but never against the USA. On the other hand, the US ones located in the EU are a serious threat to Russia and China.

Here is cliffs notes for dummies: the USA will be able to use their IRBM's located in the EU against Russia and China, while Russia and China won't be able to use theirs against the USA.

So which country wins if the treaty will be suspended? Start using your brain already.

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

How many idiots live on this planet... Russian IRBM's (intermediate-range missiles) have a zero threat for the USA, because they can't reach it. Only ICBM's can do it but they are not included into the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty.

Russian IRBM's can be used against NATO countries in the EU only, but never against the USA. On the other hand, the US ones located in the EU are a serious threat to Russia and China.

Here is cliffs notes for dummies: the USA will be able to use their IRBM's located in the EU against Russia and China, while Russia and China won't be able to use theirs against the USA.

So which country wins if the treaty will be suspended? Start using your brain already.

Yea but why do you all hang carpets on your walls??

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by RedFred

Yea but why do you all hang carpets on your walls??

Why do you all live in trailers, sleep with your sisters and send your parents to dies into retirement homes?

Every nation have its own fetishes

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Why do you all live in trailers, sleep with your sisters and send your parents to dies into retirement homes?

Every nation have its own fetishes

Weird all your women are jumping ship to live in a trailer.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

I can see Mark sitting there reading it over and over with a confused look on his face saying should i post this?...wait hold on.. lol

[Busty2]

Originally Posted by RedFred

Yea but why do you all hang carpets on your walls??

I almost spilt my beer

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by crockett

This is a gift to Russia what are you trying to say? Russia a dictatorship has to answer to no one so they will immediately start working on new weapons if they weren't already..(most likely they were)

Meanwhile in the US it takes 10+ years to get funding for new programs because Congress can't even pass a budget..

You dumb fool, Trump just did Russia's bidding again..

yeah..uh huh...

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by RedFred

Weird all your women are jumping ship to live in a trailer.

Never heard about those. However I heard about huge criminal groups that used the fake "wife by mail" theme to empty pockets of naive Americans

Really, you guys are like children and you are a very easy target for various scammers.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

I can see Mark sitting there reading it over and over with a confused look on his face saying should i post this?...wait hold on.. lol

WTF did you hack my webcam? What's your bitcoin address?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

How many idiots live on this planet... Russian IRBM's (intermediate-range missiles) have a zero threat for the USA, because they can't reach it. Only ICBM's can do it but they are not included into the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty.

Russian IRBM's can be used against NATO countries in the EU only, but never against the USA. On the other hand, the US ones located in the EU are a serious threat to Russia and China.

Here is cliffs notes for dummies: the USA will be able to use their IRBM's located in the EU against Russia and China, while Russia and China won't be able to use theirs against the USA.

So which country wins if the treaty will be suspended? Start using your brain already.

I think you are wasting your time with that idiot.

[venus]

you guys act like you dont k now why trump backed out, its because russia has developed and made operational missiles that violated the treaty. backing out of the treaty lets us start making our own now so we can try to catch up with russia. so how is this a gift to rusia?

Originally Posted by crockett

This is a gift to Russia what are you trying to say? Russia a dictatorship has to answer to no one so they will immediately start working on new weapons if they weren't already..(most likely they were)

Meanwhile in the US it takes 10+ years to get funding for new programs because Congress can't even pass a budget..

You dumb fool, Trump just did Russia's bidding again..

[venus]

the US is part of NATO, as such we are required to help them, now we can let poland and the other nato countries who putin tries to bully build and have their own nuclear weapons which would then add more countries to the list with them, or we can just put ours over there where we have control over them. They would not be necessary if Putin was not always talking about building more nukes and he has this super nuc and that super nuc..all he had to do was obey the treaty and this wouldnt be a problem but no..he wanted this problem, I think he feels like a little man and has something to prove.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Russian IRBM's can be used against NATO countries in the EU only, but never against the USA. On the other hand, the US ones located in the EU are a serious threat to Russia and China.

Here is cliffs notes for dummies: the USA will be able to use their IRBM's located in the EU against Russia and China, while Russia and China won't be able to use theirs against the USA.

So which country wins if the treaty will be suspended? Start using your brain already.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by venus

They would not be necessary if Putin was not always talking about building more nukes and he has this super nuc and that super nuc..

You are soooo naive LOL ))) The US nukes are located in the EU from 20th century. Long time before Putin and they have never been taken out. Right today the States keep 180 nukes in the EU countries (totally @ six bases) and this has no relation to what Putin says.

Once again for dummies, these nukes were there before Putin, Yeltsin and Gorbachev. And they stay there for many decades. Surprised? ;)

P.S. Course these countries are in the list of the first nuclear strike in case of WWIII. Not the USA but the EU - the countries with nukes and parts of the US missile defense system will be destroyed first. Just FYI, it takes less than 2 minutes to deliver a nuke to Warsaw.

[Bladewire]

Putin is so happy he can legally sell his mid range missiles to the middle East now

[venus]

being naive is better then being wrong. the weapons there are not missiles that are against the treaty, thats what is at issue is the treaty, something putin decided to ignore, anyways the ohio ballastic missile subs cruising off the coast of russia by them selves could lay waste to russia...but also most info is wrong because the deployment of nuclear weapons is classified and all people can do is guess. BUT this is about the treaty that putin decided to ignore/lie about. nothing else

Approximately 150 U.S. non-strategic gravity B-61 warheads. [2]

Sources indicate that an estimated 130 U.S. nuclear weapons at the Ramstein Air Base in Germany appear to have been removed in July 2007. [4]

Sources indicated in June 2008 that the United States had withdrawn nuclear weapons from the RAF Lankenheath air base where it is generally believed that 110 U.S. nuclear weapons had been deployed deployed. [5]

Work being done at the United States Air Force Base at Aviano suggests that the supply of tactical weapons at the base seems to have been reduced to between 25 and 35 bombs. [6]

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by venus

being naive is better then being wrong. the weapons there are not missiles that are against the treaty

I know, but what does it actually change? The States prefer bombers, while Russia has always rested on missiles. Every army has its own fetish.

Originally Posted by venus

thats what is at issue is the treaty, something putin decided to ignore, anyways the ohio ballastic missile subs cruising off the coast of russia by them selves could lay waste to russia...

The same do Russian and Chinese subs near both US costs. A nuke power of every such a sub is greater than a summary power of all the bombs and shells used during WWII. So we all holding each other at gunpoint. That's not a secret. E.g. Russian attack submarine slipped past US Navy and patrolled Gulf of Mexico for weeks undetected | Daily Mail Online. Russia boasts its nuclear subs crept up to the US coast completely undetected to test American defences, Russian Submarine Detected Off U.S. Coast etc.

[ilnjscb]

Does anyone have a sense of what this really means?

[femdomdestiny]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Does anyone have a sense of what this really means?

Yes, a neverending spiral of military spending on both sides, while US citizens are paying for the most expensive health care in the world.

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Does anyone have a sense of what this really means?

It means standing in line for bread in Russia. No soup for you!

[pimpmaster9000]

conventional warfare is the biggest scam ever..."lets play this rigged game where the small can not win"...


here is what europe should do:

1) made a nasty nasty bacterial cocktail, like 100+ different types of bacteria in one amp...no chance of survival for the human race
2) explain to the USA and russia that the EU now expects them to guard europe for free...explain that we will pop open that amp at the slightest bitch from either side and also explain that their lives are worth less than nothing
3) expel all US and russia diplomats from EU...there is nothing to discuss...be nice or die...
4) from time to time hold a military parade where one dude walks the street with a single amp of bacteria, then he does some sweet acrobatics with it and juggles and shit...just to show invaders what fucking maniacs we are



bunch of fucking pussies relying on the kindness of others...you deserve to be used as a proxy war zone...spineless coward EU LOL...

[Mr Pheer]

^^ that's the kind of tough guy bullshit you get from the guy that ran when his country was in a war.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Does anyone have a sense of what this really means?

This means new strategical advantages for the USA against Russia and China: https://gfy.com/22408608-post10.html
The only real loser in this game are the EU NATO countries. In case of any serious military conflict they are doomed now.
So I really don't understand those idiots who live in the USA and bash Trump for that. He did it for you, not for Putin.

BTW, today Russia has also suspended the treaty. Now officially.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

^^ that's the kind of tough guy bullshit you get from the guy that ran when his country was in a war.

you silly pawn, I do not go fight with a wooden spoon over what puppet I will pay tax to next...this job is reserved for low skilled grunts like you and your USIS buddies...high school drop outs and stuff...

let me know when I can use an amp of "off" and I guarantee that the USA will be paying to protect us...the US government would be forced to wear serbian traditional clothing and silly hats...austian yodlers would yodle so that your silly congress dressed in serbian traditional clothing could not hear each other what they are saying...and the NSA would be forced to wear pink dresses...

this is just how live would be, if you want to continue to live

[thommy]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Does anyone have a sense of what this really means?

yes - 2 years of trump brought us back in the times of cold war.

MAGA will always find it´s answer. In this case russia follows US in suspending INF nuclear missile treaty and the world is in danger again.
producers of weapons (USA, RUSSIA, ISREAL, UK) will celebrate this day

[aimike]

The world is in danger of what?

Do you really think Russia is going to attack the USA? No...

No Country is going to attack another Country with Nukes.. Not even North Korea is dumb enough.... Because as soon as that happens everybody dies. GG.

The only people who would be willing to use Nukes are people like ISIS..

[celandina]

Putin did the same today... So? Both of them

[thommy]

Originally Posted by aimike

The world is in danger of what?

Do you really think Russia is going to attack the USA? No...

No Country is going to attack another Country with Nukes.. Not even North Korea is dumb enough.... Because as soon as that happens everybody dies. GG.

The only people who would be willing to use Nukes are people like ISIS..

well maybe you are simply too young or you have been jailed during the cold war to ask such a silly question.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by aimike

The world is in danger of what?

Do you really think Russia is going to attack the USA? No...

No Country is going to attack another Country with Nukes.. Not even North Korea is dumb enough.... Because as soon as that happens everybody dies. GG.

The only people who would be willing to use Nukes are people like ISIS..

How old are you? How old you were when the previous Cold War was ended?



And this is a true story...

[crockett]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

How many idiots live on this planet... Russian IRBM's (intermediate-range missiles) have a zero threat for the USA, because they can't reach it. Only ICBM's can do it but they are not included into the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty.

Russian IRBM's can be used against NATO countries in the EU only, but never against the USA. On the other hand, the US ones located in the EU are a serious threat to Russia and China.

Here is cliffs notes for dummies: the USA will be able to use their IRBM's located in the EU against Russia and China, while Russia and China won't be able to use theirs against the USA.

So which country wins if the treaty will be suspended? Start using your brain already.

The reason for the treaty was to stop short range nukes like you described. Ie Nukes that can hit Europe within a few mins.

It will mean those very NATO countries you speak of will now end up with nukes pointed at Russia..


Its dumb all the way around but it's what Putin wanted so our traitor president gave it to him.

To be fair Russia has broken all these treaties anyway..

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by crockett

It will mean those very NATO countries you speak of will now end up with nukes pointed at Russia..

Oh my God *facepalm* Don't you really understand how it works?

They ALWAYS been "pointed" to Russia, like Russian ones were pointed to them. They were, they are and they will be regardless any treaties. The only thing that changes for the EU is that there will be more first strike targets for Russia, which now has its hands officially untied and is able to deploy as many IRBM's as it needs right near the EU border.

In any case, these missiles will target the EU NATO countries only and they are no threat for the USA. However, the US IRBM's in the EU will be very dangerous to Russia. That's why I said that the number of first nuclear strike targets in the EU will be dramatically increased. I bet this is the priority thing the Russian generals are working at right now.

Try to use your brain to sum up 2 and 2 already.

[pimpmaster9000]

Thanks USA!

[Shedevils]

Good. Let Macron ant that Stasi witch Merkel sweat.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Oh my God *facepalm* Don't you really understand how it works?

They ALWAYS been "pointed" to Russia, like Russian ones were pointed to them. They were, they are and they will be regardless any treaties. The only thing that changes for the EU is that there will be more first strike targets for Russia, which now has its hands officially untied and is able to deploy as many IRBM's as it needs right near the EU border.

In any case, these missiles will target the EU NATO countries only and they are no threat for the USA. However, the US IRBM's in the EU will be very dangerous to Russia. That's why I said that the number of first nuclear strike targets in the EU will be dramatically increased. I bet this is the priority thing the Russian generals are working at right now.

Try to use your brain to sum up 2 and 2 already.

makes much sense what you say but you forget ONE thing:

the weapon industry made the most money in the cold war.

we have spend billions in arms from what we knew when we use it, it will be the end of this planet.

at this time US is the one and only country in the world that still spends MORE on arms and weapons as in the cold war to keep this industry going.
350 million people are financing more than 1/3 of the military spending in a world with near to 8 billion people. you can not bring citizens to the point to pay that without make them feared.

I would not really wonder if trump and putin agreed to a new cold war because both countries are top exporters of weapons.
as more fear and trouble as more bombs and killermachines other countries will buy.

this is another economic paradox we see here - but sadly it will work at least for a few years til europe have his own killer machine manufactures.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Does anyone have a sense of what this really means?

This means Russia can legally sell their mid range missiles to the middle East without the threat of sanctions from the West. This is what this is really about, a revenue stream for Putin.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Oh my God *facepalm* Don't you really understand how it works?

They ALWAYS been "pointed" to Russia, like Russian ones were pointed to them. They were, they are and they will be regardless any treaties. The only thing that changes for the EU is that there will be more first strike targets for Russia, which now has its hands officially untied and is able to deploy as many IRBM's as it needs right near the EU border.

In any case, these missiles will target the EU NATO countries only and they are no threat for the USA. However, the US IRBM's in the EU will be very dangerous to Russia. That's why I said that the number of first nuclear strike targets in the EU will be dramatically increased. I bet this is the priority thing the Russian generals are working at right now.

Try to use your brain to sum up 2 and 2 already.

https://6abc.com/putin-orders-russia...reaty/5117798/

Putin orders Russia to develop new missiles after US leaves treaty


^^^ Exactly what I said would happen. It's exactly what Putin wanted and Trump once again proves he's doing Russia's bidding. Trump is a traitor who should tried for treason then bee hung for his crime against this nation, just like they did to Saddam.

[pimpmaster9000]

thanks USA!

[pimpmaster9000]

Thanks USA!