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beerptrol · 07-30-2018, 10:09 AM

Rudy Giuliani says he's not sure collusion is a crime

The pattern
1 Deny it happened
2 when caught lying say it wasn't a crime

Rudy Giuliani says he's not sure collusion is a crime

Bladewire · 07-30-2018, 10:19 AM

Next he'll be saying "crooked Hillary Clinton" & "Housain Obama" colluded too...

kane · 07-30-2018, 10:20 AM

Trump himself said something like this a while back. He said there was no collusion and even if there was it isn't illegal.

Looks like they are going back to the "I did it but it wasn't illegal" defense.

crockett · 07-30-2018, 10:25 AM

It will then become if it is illegal it shouldnt be....

dyna mo · 07-30-2018, 10:35 AM

word salad. collusion is a catch all phrase. the law requires precision and that's what mueller will provide, the specific laws that trump et al broke, most likely conspiracy. I also expect to see money laundering charges as well as campaign finance laws broken.

problem is that won't happen until after the midterms. the next 100 day news cycle will be trump's to wage war on reality.

Busty2 · 07-30-2018, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

word salad. collusion is a catch all phrase. the law requires precision and that's what mueller will provide, the specific laws that trump et al broke, most likely conspiracy. I also expect to see money laundering charges as well as campaign finance laws broken.

problem is that won't happen until after the midterms. the next 100 day news cycle will be trump's to wage war on reality.

I agree conspiring to alter the outcome of an election, eliciting foreign actors to aid in the outcome of an election.

dyna mo · 07-30-2018, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Busty2

I agree conspiring to alter the outcome of an election, eliciting foreign actors to aid in the outcome of an election.

nice additions.

I would not be surprised if there's a litany of charges brought against trump. dude's a mafia level crook.

kane · 07-30-2018, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo

word salad. collusion is a catch all phrase. the law requires precision and that's what mueller will provide, the specific laws that trump et al broke, most likely conspiracy. I also expect to see money laundering charges as well as campaign finance laws broken.

problem is that won't happen until after the midterms. the next 100 day news cycle will be trump's to wage war on reality.

It's going to be a crazy 100 days.

Rochard · 07-30-2018, 11:31 AM

Collusion in itself is not a crime.

There is no law saying I cannot "collude" with drug dealers. However, if I am making drugs, transporting drugs, selling drugs, and then lying about the money I am making on my taxes.... Well all of these things are crimes.

Here is a short list...

Election laws - it's illegal for a political campaign to accept anything of value from a foreign government.
Wire fraud - Seems like the Russians gave of money to the NRA, and the NRA gave a lot more money to the Trump campaign than they normally donate to a political campaign.....
Hacking - Did the Trump campaign have any knowledge of the Russian hacking activity, and if so did they report it?
Lying under oath - Every time we turn around everyone is lying about everything. Jeff Sessions completely lied under oath about three meetings with the Russian ambassador (that no one has bothered to explain yet). BTW, this is a very serious crime punishable by five years in prison.

This is just the basics. You can call all of this treason.

At the very least Federal election law has been broken. No matter how you spin it, a number of people in the Trump campaign attempted to meet with agents of the Russian government with the intention to get assistance from the Russian government to help their campaign.

This is treason.

Bladewire · 08-05-2018, 01:48 PM

From "no collussion" to "collusion isn't a crime" from "the meeting was about Russian adoptions" to "This was a meeting to get information on an opponent"

Trump supporters are fucking lying treasonous traitors just like Trump

07-30-2018, 10:09 AM	#1
beerptrol Confirmed Asshole Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Half way between sobriety and fubar. Posts: 12,722	There Was No Collusion to...... Rudy Giuliani says he's not sure collusion is a crime The pattern 1 Deny it happened 2 when caught lying say it wasn't a crime Rudy Giuliani says he's not sure collusion is a crime __________________ “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.” -- Ulysses S. Grant

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crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	It will then become if it is illegal it shouldnt be.... __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

07-30-2018, 11:31 AM	#9
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 73,955	Collusion in itself is not a crime. There is no law saying I cannot "collude" with drug dealers. However, if I am making drugs, transporting drugs, selling drugs, and then lying about the money I am making on my taxes.... Well all of these things are crimes. Here is a short list... Election laws - it's illegal for a political campaign to accept anything of value from a foreign government. Wire fraud - Seems like the Russians gave of money to the NRA, and the NRA gave a lot more money to the Trump campaign than they normally donate to a political campaign..... Hacking - Did the Trump campaign have any knowledge of the Russian hacking activity, and if so did they report it? Lying under oath - Every time we turn around everyone is lying about everything. Jeff Sessions completely lied under oath about three meetings with the Russian ambassador (that no one has bothered to explain yet). BTW, this is a very serious crime punishable by five years in prison. This is just the basics. You can call all of this treason. At the very least Federal election law has been broken. No matter how you spin it, a number of people in the Trump campaign attempted to meet with agents of the Russian government with the intention to get assistance from the Russian government to help their campaign. This is treason. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

07-30-2018, 10:19 AM	#2
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,229	Next he'll be saying "crooked Hillary Clinton" & "Housain Obama" colluded too...

07-30-2018, 10:20 AM	#3
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	Trump himself said something like this a while back. He said there was no collusion and even if there was it isn't illegal. Looks like they are going back to the "I did it but it wasn't illegal" defense.

07-30-2018, 10:35 AM	#5
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,308	word salad. collusion is a catch all phrase. the law requires precision and that's what mueller will provide, the specific laws that trump et al broke, most likely conspiracy. I also expect to see money laundering charges as well as campaign finance laws broken. problem is that won't happen until after the midterms. the next 100 day news cycle will be trump's to wage war on reality.

08-05-2018, 01:48 PM	#10
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,229	From "no collussion" to "collusion isn't a crime" from "the meeting was about Russian adoptions" to "This was a meeting to get information on an opponent" Trump supporters are fucking lying treasonous traitors just like Trump