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  • beerptrol
    Confirmed Asshole
    • Feb 2003
    • 12722

    #1

    There Was No Collusion to......

    Rudy Giuliani says he's not sure collusion is a crime

    The pattern
    1 Deny it happened
    2 when caught lying say it wasn't a crime

    Rudy Giuliani says he's not sure collusion is a crime
  • Bladewire
    StraightBro
    • Aug 2003
    • 56220

    #2
    Next he'll be saying "crooked Hillary Clinton" & "Housain Obama" colluded too...


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    • kane
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Aug 2001
      • 20684

      #3
      Trump himself said something like this a while back. He said there was no collusion and even if there was it isn't illegal.

      Looks like they are going back to the "I did it but it wasn't illegal" defense.

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      • crockett
        in a van by the river
        • May 2003
        • 76818

        #4
        It will then become if it is illegal it shouldnt be....
        In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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        • dyna mo
          just a fucking jerk
          • Dec 2008
          • 68184

          #5
          word salad. collusion is a catch all phrase. the law requires precision and that's what mueller will provide, the specific laws that trump et al broke, most likely conspiracy. I also expect to see money laundering charges as well as campaign finance laws broken.


          problem is that won't happen until after the midterms. the next 100 day news cycle will be trump's to wage war on reality.

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          • Busty2
            Member since 1999
            • Dec 2007
            • 7200

            #6
            Originally posted by dyna mo
            word salad. collusion is a catch all phrase. the law requires precision and that's what mueller will provide, the specific laws that trump et al broke, most likely conspiracy. I also expect to see money laundering charges as well as campaign finance laws broken.


            problem is that won't happen until after the midterms. the next 100 day news cycle will be trump's to wage war on reality.
            I agree conspiring to alter the outcome of an election, eliciting foreign actors to aid in the outcome of an election.

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            • dyna mo
              just a fucking jerk
              • Dec 2008
              • 68184

              #7
              Originally posted by Busty2
              I agree conspiring to alter the outcome of an election, eliciting foreign actors to aid in the outcome of an election.
              nice additions.

              I would not be surprised if there's a litany of charges brought against trump. dude's a mafia level crook.

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              • kane
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Aug 2001
                • 20684

                #8
                Originally posted by dyna mo
                word salad. collusion is a catch all phrase. the law requires precision and that's what mueller will provide, the specific laws that trump et al broke, most likely conspiracy. I also expect to see money laundering charges as well as campaign finance laws broken.


                problem is that won't happen until after the midterms. the next 100 day news cycle will be trump's to wage war on reality.
                It's going to be a crazy 100 days.

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                • Rochard
                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 75762

                  #9
                  Collusion in itself is not a crime.

                  There is no law saying I cannot "collude" with drug dealers. However, if I am making drugs, transporting drugs, selling drugs, and then lying about the money I am making on my taxes.... Well all of these things are crimes.

                  Here is a short list...

                  Election laws - it's illegal for a political campaign to accept anything of value from a foreign government.
                  Wire fraud - Seems like the Russians gave of money to the NRA, and the NRA gave a lot more money to the Trump campaign than they normally donate to a political campaign.....
                  Hacking - Did the Trump campaign have any knowledge of the Russian hacking activity, and if so did they report it?
                  Lying under oath - Every time we turn around everyone is lying about everything. Jeff Sessions completely lied under oath about three meetings with the Russian ambassador (that no one has bothered to explain yet). BTW, this is a very serious crime punishable by five years in prison.

                  This is just the basics. You can call all of this treason.

                  At the very least Federal election law has been broken. No matter how you spin it, a number of people in the Trump campaign attempted to meet with agents of the Russian government with the intention to get assistance from the Russian government to help their campaign.

                  This is treason.
                  Herschel Savage
                  Brooklyn, NY

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                  • Bladewire
                    StraightBro
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 56220

                    #10
                    From "no collussion" to "collusion isn't a crime" from "the meeting was about Russian adoptions" to "This was a meeting to get information on an opponent"

                    Trump supporters are fucking lying treasonous traitors just like Trump


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