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Old 06-30-2018, 06:06 AM   #51
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:25 AM   #52
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Yeah .. their sea "totally sucks"
Well it's a sea

but it's called the "black sea" and it's not as close as sea you can find in Greece, Italy or Malta for sure...

You can't compare that with this:
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Old 06-30-2018, 11:59 AM   #53
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Most likely not valid anymore when you become a permanent Portuguese resident. I myself have an expat health insurance, also because I wasn't sure at first if I really wanted to stay here and that insurance also covers the rest of the world. However, since it's pretty expensive, I am investigating local alternatives now.

If you have the means for it, then try not to depend on the state health insurance, which is part of the Portuguese social security system. Depending on it means only access to state hospital that usually have a very long waiting list for treatments (sometimes people literally have to wait years). Private insurance generally means very short or no waiting for treatments, plus access to private clinics (offering higher quality in health care).
A private medical insurance in Poland would cost $100-$150 a month - a family plan.
I assume in Portugal it could be about the same.
Generally speaking EU medical system is nearly the same everywhere.

Mind my asking where are you from? May be in your home country it works better?
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Old 06-30-2018, 05:13 PM   #54
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Well it's a sea

but it's called the "black sea" and it's not as close as sea you can find in Greece, Italy or Malta for sure...
Well .. it's Not called "black sea" because it "sucks" ..
However .. for sure you can find better places, but believe me there's beautiful beaches/places in Bulgaria (not talking about Sunny Beach lol) .. I live here and I know what I'm talking about ..
And honestly that picture you posted .. I prefer the first picture of my post .. but different "tastes"...

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Old 06-30-2018, 11:00 PM   #55
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I am thinking to go to Portugal also (just stay a few weeks/months). Many positive stories but is getting more expensive now. Remember someone who said it was a shithole a few years ago, kept booming since than.

There must be some good tax rules if you start a business. Maybe you can find them here:
https://www.pwc.pt/pt/fiscalidade/im...ept_secret.pdf
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Old 07-01-2018, 03:57 AM   #56
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Porto is getting gentrified big time, lovely, but twice as expensive as it used to be... Still cheap though.
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Old 07-01-2018, 04:02 AM   #57
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Mind my asking where are you from? May be in your home country it works better?
Originally from The Netherlands, so a totally qualified EU citizen. Therefore the moving procedure was plain simple. At first I also thought I had to deal with SEF, but all I had to do was ask for a Certificado de Registo de Cidadão de Comunão Europea at the local town hall, show proof of my new Portuguese address and sign a written oath that states that I am self sufficient and have my own health insurance (no need to show any proof) and pay 15 euro processing costs.
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Originally from The Netherlands, so a totally qualified EU citizen. Therefore the moving procedure was plain simple. At first I also thought I had to deal with SEF, but all I had to do was ask for a Certificado de Registo de Cidadão de Comunão Europea at the local town hall, show proof of my new Portuguese address and sign a written oath that states that I am self sufficient and have my own health insurance (no need to show any proof) and pay 15 euro processing costs.
Will be that easy once I have a EU passport.
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Old 07-01-2018, 12:46 PM   #59
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I am thinking to go to Portugal also (just stay a few weeks/months). Many positive stories but is getting more expensive now. Remember someone who said it was a shithole a few years ago, kept booming since than.

There must be some good tax rules if you start a business. Maybe you can find them here:
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20% flat income tax is not actually cheap.
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Old 07-01-2018, 01:54 PM   #60
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20% flat income tax is not actually cheap.
in RUS- land it's 6 or 13 % afair.
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Old 07-01-2018, 03:11 PM   #61
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20% flat income tax is not actually cheap.
i hope you know what "flat income tax" means, do you ?

additionally the have some kind of "welcome tax" not sure for how many years - and if you are really into the tax laws in europe (and worldwide) there is no reason to pay a lot of tax anywhere on this planet.

if you are not a US citizen the best tax heavens you can find on this planet is USA.
Nevada, Delaware, Montana, South Dakota, Wyoming and New York and a few more brings you to 1% tax MAXIMUM.

if that is still too much for you there are many ways to pay 0 % tax on your worldwide income (if you are NOT a US individual) if you are an US individual citizen there are still a lot of legal ways to pay zero tax (you do not have to be a big company for that).

as long as you are not not born in USA and have an american passport you do not have to pay tax at all. and they are on the white list. so don´t try it with any other country if you can have it that easy.
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Old 07-02-2018, 06:03 AM   #62
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20% flat income tax is not actually cheap.
The 20% is on local generated income. If you route your earnings through a company abrothen you ad (in my case a UK Limited at this moment), then it is seen as foreign source income and can profit from 0% tax during the first 10 years that you live in Portugal.

I'm not sure if this tax rule still exists for many decades to come, but right now the rule is, that when you leave Portugal after those 10 years and then return 5 years later, it's a matter of rinse and repeat and you can profit again for another 10 tax free years.

Isn't the digital age lovely, when all you basically need to make a living is basically a laptop, that you can take with you to whatever place treats you (financially) best?
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The 20% is on local generated income.
That was my mistake. I thought it was meant for any income, freelance included. We're back to proving to have enough funds to live - if it's just a statement in your ( EU passport holder ) case, then no more questions asked.
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Old 07-02-2018, 07:40 AM   #64
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i hope you know what "flat income tax" means, do you ?
It means 20% off all your earnings, no expenses included in the cost. $20 off the earned $100.

Do you read it in another way?
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in RUS- land it's 6 or 13 % afair.
++ you speak language !

I wanted to treat you friendly. Really. Next time you post shit my way I will start treating you like CyberSEO, friend.
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do not be angry with your new Polish masters
May I ask you THE FUCK DO YOU CARE? Go check your daily anal probes you send daily to your supervisor at KGB.
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