Poland says germany could owe $850 billion in world war reparations

[Sarn]

The Polish government said that Germany could be liable for as much as $850 billion in war reparations for the damage the Nazis caused the country in World War II.

Polish politician Arkadiusz Mularczyk is in charge of a unit tasked with calculating the cost of Germany's war damages after it killed 6 million Polish citizens in the conflict. The Nazi regime of Adolf Hitler occupied Poland for seven years, from 1939 to 1945.

"We are talking about very large, but justified, amounts of compensation for war crimes, for destroyed cities, villages, and the lost demographic potential of our country," Mularczyk told Polsat News, a private broadcaster, according to the Associated Press.
Poland Says Germany Could Owe $850 Billion in World War Reparations

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[BaldBastard]

Read the article dimwit just don't cut and paste it

[RedFred]

Barbaric Russians also occupied half of Poland, how much are they liable for?



German and Soviet officers shaking hands following the invasion

[Bladewire]

Russia owes the Ukraine billions in reparations for what they've done the last 10 years alone

It's been clear the last 2 years that Russia, held hostage by Putin, has waged social warfare on every European country to cause negative discourse breeding hate and division. Hopefully Russians will take their country back from the dictator that's got them by the balls.

[pimpmaster9000]

Americans would not have food to eat if they had to pay reparations to the countries they invaded...Brits would not have air to breathe LOL

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

Americans would not have food to eat if they had to pay reparations to the countries they invaded...Brits would not have air to breathe LOL

You would not have internet to bitch and moan if it wasn't for America

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You would not have internet to bitch and moan if it wasn't for America

Somebody else would have invented it...

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

Somebody else would have invented it...

If we hadn't bombed your country someone else would have bombed it anyway

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

If we hadn't bombed your country someone else would have bombed it anyway

Yes but you would have bombed some other and we would have not...we are not Invaders...

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

Yes but you would have bombed some other and we would have not...we are not Invaders...

Your people invaded another country as immigrants

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Read the article dimwit just don't cut and paste it

Originally Posted by RedFred

Barbaric Russians also occupied half of Poland, how much are they liable for?
German and Soviet officers shaking hands following the invasion

Dear Barbaric dimwits, reparations pay for winners - USSR and communists with Stalin comrade, not for Poland. Poland can't request reparation

War reparations are payments made after a war by the vanquished to the victors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_reparations

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Russia owes the Ukraine billions in reparations for what they've done the last 10 years alone
It's been clear the last 2 years that Russia, held hostage by Putin, has waged social warfare on every European country to cause negative discourse breeding hate and division. Hopefully Russians will take their country back from the dictator that's got them by the balls.

Here about Poland ))

Grzegorz Brz?czyszczykiewicz - Coub - GIFs with sound

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Your people invaded another country as immigrants

well that would have been hard because when we came here there was little people living at all...some 7000 years ago...countries did not really exist and neither did concepts like borders...perhaps 30 million homo sapiens existed total back then...europe had maybe 5 million total...maybe just 2million if you look at the lowest estimate...about 1000 years ago we invaded some byzanties because they would not stop eating shit so serbs revolted after a century of being invaded...

so no, we never invaded anybody...but you guys on the other hand just cant stop...why are you like this?...angry angry people...

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by Sarn

Dear Barbaric dimwits, reparations pay for winners - USSR and communists with Stalin comrade, not for Poland. Poland can't request reparation

War reparations are payments made after a war by the vanquished to the victors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_reparations

I can't understand a fucking thing you said.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

well that would have been hard because when we came here there was little people living at all...some 7000 years ago...countries did not really exist and neither did concepts like borders...perhaps 30 million homo sapiens existed total back then...europe had maybe 5 million total...maybe just 2million if you look at the lowest estimate...about 1000 years ago we invaded some byzanties because they would not stop eating shit so serbs revolted after a century of being invaded...

Spoken like a true invader... "The world is free land for anyone who wants it" that is basically what you just said and going back 5 million years to justify yourself. Priceless!

I'm just teasing you. Serbian men are HOT!

[oppoten]

Even the Polish are saying 6 million? They might want to pick a different number, because we've got 6 million fatigue.

All reparations should immediately cease. History is history, we move on. Newsweek is toast and hopefully more of them will follow.

[lovebitch]

World war, Good old memories.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by oppoten

Even the Polish are saying 6 million? They might want to pick a different number, because we've got 6 million fatigue.

All reparations should immediately cease. History is history, we move on. Newsweek is toast and hopefully more of them will follow.

Clearly you have not moved on and you need to take your own advice as all you post about here is your hatred of Jews and your victimization.

[adultchatpay]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Read the article dimwit just don't cut and paste it

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by oppoten

Even the Polish are saying 6 million? They might want to pick a different number, because we've got 6 million fatigue.

All reparations should immediately cease. History is history, we move on. Newsweek is toast and hopefully more of them will follow.

I don't think the gov't is serious about reparations and no one expects Germany to realistically pay it - it's just a political tool to push back against the migrant quotas and other shit the EU is pulling with the V4 countries. That being said, Warsaw was razed to the ground for instance...

[Tasty1]

[ZiggiZiggiCrew]

I think Czechs must says Poland could owe $850 billion in world war reparations too

[Rochard]

At a certain point we need to just let this go.

You can argue it wasn't Germany, it was Nazi Germany. Nazi Germany was defeated and no longer exists.

You can also argue Germany already paid reparations, to the tune of $23 Billion. Might not sound like much, but $23 billion was worth a lot more in the 1950s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_reparations

[Rochard]

I should add... the book I am reading right now is talking about Swiss bankers. It claims during the war a lot of Jewish families hid their money in Switzerland in numbered accounts, and they were never able to reclaim that money. To this very day the Swiss continues to make money off of them.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by Rochard

At a certain point we need to just let this go.

You can argue it wasn't Germany, it was Nazi Germany. Nazi Germany was defeated and no longer exists.

You can also argue Germany already paid reparations, to the tune of $23 Billion. Might not sound like much, but $23 billion was worth a lot more in the 1950s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_reparations

So would you agree that holocaust reparations should no longer be paid out at all? There are still court cases here of descendants of jews trying to get land back - except now in many cases the land is completely developed and worth substantially more.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by oppoten

Even the Polish are saying 6 million? They might want to pick a different number, because we've got 6 million fatigue.

All reparations should immediately cease. History is history, we move on. Newsweek is toast and hopefully more of them will follow.

don't let black people hear you say that

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You would not have internet to bitch and moan if it wasn't for America

lame ....

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Russia owes the Ukraine billions in reparations for what they've done the last 10 years alone

It's been clear the last 2 years that Russia, held hostage by Putin, has waged social warfare on every European country to cause negative discourse breeding hate and division. Hopefully Russians will take their country back from the dictator that's got them by the balls.

Get your head out of CNNs ass !!!

Now a part of Ukrainian special forces..

Azov battalion now



And just for the record... then:




Putin is just trying to hold on to what is his ( Russian)

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

So would you agree that holocaust reparations should no longer be paid out at all? There are still court cases here of descendants of jews trying to get land back - except now in many cases the land is completely developed and worth substantially more.

But who gets to sue who, and who has to pay?

Let's say the Chreptovich family owns a large farm in Poland with hundreds of acres of land. Nazi Germany invades, kills everyone in the Chreptovich family except for the daughter who wasn't home that day, and the entire farm, the house, and all of the farm equipment is handed over to the Schmidt family. Does Laura Chreptovich, the only survivor of the Chreptovich family, have a legal right to that land? Who does she take to court? The Schmidt family? The Polish Government? The German government? What if Laura Chreptovich has passed on, can her daughter sue? Can her grandson sue?

Laura Chreptovich is (was) my grandmother. Her entire family was killed, and she moved to the United States. That farm belongs to my family. Let's say my family does try to go to court over this. What if the farm was developed and sold as hundreds of lots? Can my mother sue hundreds of homeowners in Poland?

What about a British family in London who lost their house or property during the bombing?

Can families in Germany sue the United States for bombing their houses? Millions of families on all sides lost their houses and their businesses. Entire towns were destroyed. Who are they going to sue?

EVERYBODY in Europe lost.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Laura Chreptovich is (was) my grandmother. Her entire family was killed, and she moved to the United States. That farm belongs to my family. Let's say my family does try to go to court over this. What if the farm was developed and sold as hundreds of lots? Can my mother sue hundreds of homeowners in Poland?

Actually, your family would have to sue the US government.

"Under the 1960 Treaty, Poland paid the United States $40 million in full settlement of claims of nationals of the United States for nationalization or other taking of property, appropriation or loss of use of their property and debt owed by enterprises taken over by the State.1 The $40 million paid pursuant to the 1960 Treaty represents over a billion dollars in 2017. Hence, this substantial compensation was intended to settle property claims against Poland by US nationals. In accordance with Article IV of the 1960 Treaty, the United States agreed to fully indemnify Poland for any property claims of US nationals, which occurred on or before the entry into force of the 1960 Treaty."

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Actually, your family would have to sue the US government.

"Under the 1960 Treaty, Poland paid the United States $40 million in full settlement of claims of nationals of the United States for nationalization or other taking of property, appropriation or loss of use of their property and debt owed by enterprises taken over by the State.1 The $40 million paid pursuant to the 1960 Treaty represents over a billion dollars in 2017. Hence, this substantial compensation was intended to settle property claims against Poland by US nationals. In accordance with Article IV of the 1960 Treaty, the United States agreed to fully indemnify Poland for any property claims of US nationals, which occurred on or before the entry into force of the 1960 Treaty."

LOL - Sure.

So Nazi Germany took away my family's farm and I get to sue the US Government?

How much do you think that farm is worth now? One million US dollars? Two million? Ten? Plus damages. Plus interest. Plus the fact that my family lost half a dozen people. We could easily be talking tens of millions of dollars here.

In fact, you can argue every single person in Polish suffered huge losses during the war. Same with the UK, France, Belgium, Luxemburg, Italy, various countries in Africa, and dozen other countries. It's estimated that over one hundred million people were killed during WWII - How can you compensate one hundred million families for this? How many families lost houses? How many families lost businesses?

Frankly, any of this would be nearly impossible to take to court. Do you really think the local courthouse still has the original deed to my family's farm, and that we can prove it was taken away from us?

I am not saying people weren't wronged. They were. Some very horrible, evil, and vile things came out of this. People lost their homes, their businesses, their money, their possessions, their art, their valuables, and most importantly they lost their family members. Every family in Europe can trace back to some kind of loss. What I am saying is we cannot file hundreds of millions of lawsuits over this.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by Rochard

So Nazi Germany took away my family's farm and I get to sue the US Government?

Yes, because they via treaty agreed to pay the survivors out for any land claims. Poland paid them to. Why Poland? I don't know, I think the lost land became property of the state or something.

Originally Posted by Rochard

How much do you think that farm is worth now? One million US dollars? Two million? Ten? Plus damages. Plus interest. Plus the fact that my family lost half a dozen people. We could easily be talking tens of millions of dollars here.

I think it's land claims only, and depending on where it was it might be worth next to nothing or a hundreds of millions of dollars if it's now part of Warsaw for instance.

Originally Posted by Rochard

In fact, you can argue every single person in Polish suffered huge losses during the war. Same with the UK, France, Belgium, Luxemburg, Italy, various countries in Africa, and dozen other countries. It's estimated that over one hundred million people were killed during WWII - How can you compensate one hundred million families for this? How many families lost houses? How many families lost businesses?

You can't, but what I'm getting at is that there are still people trying.

Originally Posted by Rochard

Frankly, any of this would be nearly impossible to take to court. Do you really think the local courthouse still has the original deed to my family's farm, and that we can prove it was taken away from us?

Many times people have come force with fake documents and been busted. It's hard to prove that it was both owned by your family and that it wasn't sold after it was owned.

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by Rochard

But who gets to sue who, and who has to pay?

Let's say the Chreptovich family owns a large farm in Poland with hundreds of acres of land. Nazi Germany invades, kills everyone in the Chreptovich family except for the daughter who wasn't home that day, and the entire farm, the house, and all of the farm equipment is handed over to the Schmidt family. Does Laura Chreptovich, the only survivor of the Chreptovich family, have a legal right to that land? Who does she take to court? The Schmidt family? The Polish Government? The German government? What if Laura Chreptovich has passed on, can her daughter sue? Can her grandson sue?

Laura Chreptovich is (was) my grandmother. Her entire family was killed, and she moved to the United States. That farm belongs to my family. Let's say my family does try to go to court over this. What if the farm was developed and sold as hundreds of lots? Can my mother sue hundreds of homeowners in Poland?

What about a British family in London who lost their house or property during the bombing?

Can families in Germany sue the United States for bombing their houses? Millions of families on all sides lost their houses and their businesses. Entire towns were destroyed. Who are they going to sue?

EVERYBODY in Europe lost.

I would at least try to get it back. And publish it, who profited from it, if they knew etcetra etcetra. Publish that Schidt was nazi symphatizer who profited from it and accepted it to get rich from it. sue sue sue, publish, and go. The polish gouvernement must get a uncomfortable feeling, the germans and the Schmidt family.

Not everybody lost in the war. I know a familie. They named Schmidt. They got a present in the war from the nazi germans and became rich.

[Bladewire]

The Russian OP trying to start shit with Germans and Polish now

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

I would at least try to get it back. And publish it, who profited from it, if they knew etcetra etcetra. Publish that Schidt was nazi symphatizer who profited from it and accepted it to get rich from it. sue sue sue, publish, and go. The polish gouvernement must get a uncomfortable feeling, the germans and the Schmidt family.

Not everybody lost in the war. I know a familie. They named Schmidt. They got a present in the war from the nazi germans and became rich.

I'm fairly certain that calling someone named "Schmidt" being a nazi sympathizer is not going to give anyone in Poland any sort of uncomfortable feelings

IMHO While im sure it would be NICE to get that 850 billion and it would probably do alot of good here assuming it was spent properly and not squandered - I think this is just artillery in the whole "Polish Death Camps" thing and a card that Poland can play against Germany in the whole EU shitstorm.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

The Russian OP trying to start shit with Germans and Polish now

Why only Germans - Poland attack in all directions

An Auschwitz Guide's Home Was Vandalized With The Star Of David And "Poland For The Poles"
The attack comes just after a new law took effect that makes it a crime to attribute any blame to Poland for the Holocaust.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...st-than-Brexit

Poland passes law on demolishing Red Army monuments
TASS: World - Poland passes law on demolishing Red Army monuments

Holocaust Trips to Poland for Israeli Youth Should Start in Germany
Because of the structure of these trips, tens of thousands of young Israelis unintentionally associate the Holocaust with Poland, sometimes far more than with Nazi Germany
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.pre...many-1.5870844

Ukraine says Polish bill on historic crimes could harm ties
KIEV (Reuters) - Ukraine’s parliament on Tuesday passed a resolution condemning a Polish bill that imposes jail terms for denying that Ukrainian nationalists committed crimes against Poles in 1925-1950 or collaborated with Nazi Germany, saying it could harm relations.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-i...-idUSKBN1FQ2GU

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