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Old 03-01-2018, 07:28 PM   #1
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Why Trump will win in 2020



Nearly a thousand days remain between us and Nov. 3, 2020, but President Trump is already making announcements about his next campaign.

I feel comfortable saying that he has this thing in the bag. Trump is an uncouth, mean-spirited, delusional narcissist hated by the media. So was Richard Nixon in 1972, and he won re-election that year in the biggest landslide in American history. Like Nixon's, Trump's appeal among his base is foolproof. Even the slightest accomplishment can be presented as evidence of his deal-making savvy. Every promise he has failed to keep ? on health care, trade, immigration, The Wall ? can be answered away by invoking the specter of his enemies. Unlike Nixon or any president in recent memory, he has the benefit of being able to count the leadership of both parties among the latter. The GOP is fine with this arrangement. Mitch McConnell really will allow Trump to badmouth him in front of the American people if it means not having a Democrat in the White House.

Meanwhile the same media that made Trump's rise possible by investing his every moronic utterance with world-historic significance is trying desperately to pose as a check on his authority. The 2016 election was the story of CNN allowing Trump to phone in his extemporized thoughts on nothing in particular while Rand Paul and Jeb Bush sat waiting in the wings with their boring white papers on criminal justice reform. Now Chris Cuomo thinks the pain the first lady no doubt experiences upon being informed of her husband's adultery is uproariously funny. The press is made up of dilettantes, and their ability to influence voters' decisions has never been more limited. At this point Trump really could shoot someone in the street, and the average MAGA hat wearer who saw it happen live on CNN would know it was #fakenews.

For Trump to lose, the Democrats will have to find an even marginally appealing candidate, preferably one at least slightly younger than Abraham at the birth of Isaac. I continue to believe that their best bet is Oprah Winfrey, but she has made it clear that she no interest in running. Bernie Sanders, who could also beat Trump, will be 80 years old in 2020. Joe Biden, who is not lacking in charisma of a kind, will be 78. Anyone who thinks that Biden's avuncular handsiness will not be an obstacle because he is running against Trump is underestimating the cynicism of the GOP.

Who else is there? The most popular Democratic governor in the country is John Bel Edwards of Louisiana, a pro-life, pro-gun throwback figure who is as repulsive to the party's committed base of 22-year-old Teen Vogue editorial interns as he might be attractive to voters in purple states. He has never hinted at wanting to run. Instead, the governor most likely to get involved is California's Jerry Brown, another octogenarian whose appeal would be as mysterious to most Americans as it indeed is to the average resident of the Golden State. Of senators likely to run, the most viable is Kirsten Gillibrand of New York.

By "viable" I mean capable of winning a general election, not capturing the Democratic nomination. For the first time since 1992, the Democratic Party is going to be forced to decide what it stands for, not simply what it is against (i.e., Trump himself, his evil Russian cronies, a tax cut that is, for good or ill, becoming popular). President Obama ran as a moderate in 2008 and very largely governed as one. His administration was a continuation of the ?Third Way? Dick Morris-approved triangulation that had been successful for Bill Clinton. He was friendly to Wall Street, hawkish on terrorism, reasonably tough on immigration, pliable on social issues.

Is Clintonism still the way forward, or is the next Democratic president going to be something this country has not seen since Lyndon Johnson, a genuine fighting progressive in the White House? For the powers that be in the Democratic Party, the answer is obvious. There is no reason to believe that the DNC led by Tom Perez will be any less in the tank for the party's neoliberal establishment than it was under Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who more or less openly colluded with Hillary Clinton against Sanders. The only way Gillibrand will make herself acceptable to leadership is by abandoning her (already malleable) principles. If she decides that single-payer health care is aspirational rather than imperative and that the war in Afghanistan worth fighting after all, she might be a goer. If she looks like the genuine article, she will be stonewalled in favor of, say, Terry McAuliffe, who will raise more money than any candidate in history and lose by at least 100 electoral votes. The same goes for Elizabeth Warren, whom the party finds useful so long as she is in opposition, like Sanders. Kamala Harris has a better chance of being the nominee than either of these women for precisely the same reason that she would fare worse in a general election, namely her gruesome obsession with punishing opponents of abortion. She would be acceptable to the NARAL wine-and-cheese crowd in a way that is not quite imaginable for Warren, who considers pocket-book issues more important than anything else.

A contest between a generic neoliberal and Trump would be a battle of airs and grievances, a duel for feigned moral superiority utterly divorced from practical moral and economic questions. It would be phantasmal, like the rest of our political life. Only a progressive candidate who could articulate the ways in which the Trump administration is a continuation of all the ills ? the shocking accumulation of unimaginable power and wealth by a handful of large tech companies, the relentless financialization of the economy, the absence of meaningful and well-remunerated full-time work, the crippling debt, the social breakdown that has made family life a privilege for the upper-middle class ? of his last three predecessors would meaningfully alter the terms of the engagement.

In a contest of images, don't bet against the reality TV star. For Trump to lose, the Democratic Party would have become the party of Rep. Rosa DeLauro. I don't think even Rosa expects that to happen.

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I don't know - seems like shit is going south in the WH. We need to see what happens with midterms. If Dems take house, he might not win re-election
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I don't know - seems like shit is going south in the WH. We need to see what happens with midterms. If Dems take house, he might not win re-election
Lots will change within the next few weeks. Nunes just gave the DOJ 7 days to answer for theirs and the FBI's illegalities with the FISA court before they start subpoena's.

https://www.scribd.com/document/3727...SA-application

Grant it this is all part of the plan.. The IG report was due out this month anyway.. They're just making it appear as though Nunes and co haven't been working with IG all along.

I hope Comey is enjoying his book tour as it's about to get cut short.

You can't really be talking about restricting the peoples rights while there's obvious in your face illegal shit going down in Washington and elsewhere going unanswered. That's a real good way of pissing people off.
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^^^ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!

BladeLiar is STILL pushing dumbass Russia conspiracies! What a nut job

The Dems have no one. Maybe if they elevate Tulsi Gabbard they might have a shot.. oh who am i kidding, they have no shot.

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You seem to not be paying much attention, which is typical considering you live in a echo chamber..

Democrats have been cock punching Republicans in state level election after state level election. Just this week Democrats took 2 more state seats from Republicans and it was 1 or 2 the week before as well. In Texas a Democrat has raised 2 times as much money as Ted Cruz and Texas has gone from solid Red to very purple..

Then we have the redistricting which allowed Trump to win in the 1st place. Many states maps have been redrawn to take away Republican's advantage and that effects who the EC will be..

Last but not least, there were 2 groups who simply did not go out and vote this last election. They were the Latinos and Millennials. They stayed home over dissatisfaction with both Trump & Hillary..

Both have been fucked by Trump and are chomping at the bits to vote him out of office. Trump is done, he will be erased by the next Democrat who undoes everything he did, assuming he hasn't been impeached by the next presidential election.


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Lots will change within the next few weeks. Nunes just gave the DOJ 7 days to answer for theirs and the FBI's illegalities with the FISA court before they start subpoena's.

https://www.scribd.com/document/3727...SA-application

Grant it this is all part of the plan.. The IG report was due out this month anyway.. They're just making it appear as though Nunes and co haven't been working with IG all along.

I hope Comey is enjoying his book tour as it's about to get cut short.

You can't really be talking about restricting the peoples rights while there's obvious in your face illegal shit going down in Washington and elsewhere going unanswered. That's a real good way of pissing people off.
Sure thing Chicken little.. "look guys this will "really, really" be the week Hillary gets locked up, my 4chan friends are sure of it"..
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Nearly a thousand days remain between us and Nov. 3, 2020, but President Trump is already making announcements about his next campaign.

I feel comfortable saying that he has this thing in the bag. Trump is an uncouth, mean-spirited, delusional narcissist hated by the media. So was Richard Nixon in 1972, and he won re-election that year in the biggest landslide in American history. Like Nixon's, Trump's appeal among his base is foolproof. Even the slightest accomplishment can be presented as evidence of his deal-making savvy. Every promise he has failed to keep ? on health care, trade, immigration, The Wall ? can be answered away by invoking the specter of his enemies. Unlike Nixon or any president in recent memory, he has the benefit of being able to count the leadership of both parties among the latter. The GOP is fine with this arrangement. Mitch McConnell really will allow Trump to badmouth him in front of the American people if it means not having a Democrat in the White House.

Meanwhile the same media that made Trump's rise possible by investing his every moronic utterance with world-historic significance is trying desperately to pose as a check on his authority. The 2016 election was the story of CNN allowing Trump to phone in his extemporized thoughts on nothing in particular while Rand Paul and Jeb Bush sat waiting in the wings with their boring white papers on criminal justice reform. Now Chris Cuomo thinks the pain the first lady no doubt experiences upon being informed of her husband's adultery is uproariously funny. The press is made up of dilettantes, and their ability to influence voters' decisions has never been more limited. At this point Trump really could shoot someone in the street, and the average MAGA hat wearer who saw it happen live on CNN would know it was #fakenews.

For Trump to lose, the Democrats will have to find an even marginally appealing candidate, preferably one at least slightly younger than Abraham at the birth of Isaac. I continue to believe that their best bet is Oprah Winfrey, but she has made it clear that she no interest in running. Bernie Sanders, who could also beat Trump, will be 80 years old in 2020. Joe Biden, who is not lacking in charisma of a kind, will be 78. Anyone who thinks that Biden's avuncular handsiness will not be an obstacle because he is running against Trump is underestimating the cynicism of the GOP.

Who else is there? The most popular Democratic governor in the country is John Bel Edwards of Louisiana, a pro-life, pro-gun throwback figure who is as repulsive to the party's committed base of 22-year-old Teen Vogue editorial interns as he might be attractive to voters in purple states. He has never hinted at wanting to run. Instead, the governor most likely to get involved is California's Jerry Brown, another octogenarian whose appeal would be as mysterious to most Americans as it indeed is to the average resident of the Golden State. Of senators likely to run, the most viable is Kirsten Gillibrand of New York.

By "viable" I mean capable of winning a general election, not capturing the Democratic nomination. For the first time since 1992, the Democratic Party is going to be forced to decide what it stands for, not simply what it is against (i.e., Trump himself, his evil Russian cronies, a tax cut that is, for good or ill, becoming popular). President Obama ran as a moderate in 2008 and very largely governed as one. His administration was a continuation of the ?Third Way? Dick Morris-approved triangulation that had been successful for Bill Clinton. He was friendly to Wall Street, hawkish on terrorism, reasonably tough on immigration, pliable on social issues.

Is Clintonism still the way forward, or is the next Democratic president going to be something this country has not seen since Lyndon Johnson, a genuine fighting progressive in the White House? For the powers that be in the Democratic Party, the answer is obvious. There is no reason to believe that the DNC led by Tom Perez will be any less in the tank for the party's neoliberal establishment than it was under Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who more or less openly colluded with Hillary Clinton against Sanders. The only way Gillibrand will make herself acceptable to leadership is by abandoning her (already malleable) principles. If she decides that single-payer health care is aspirational rather than imperative and that the war in Afghanistan worth fighting after all, she might be a goer. If she looks like the genuine article, she will be stonewalled in favor of, say, Terry McAuliffe, who will raise more money than any candidate in history and lose by at least 100 electoral votes. The same goes for Elizabeth Warren, whom the party finds useful so long as she is in opposition, like Sanders. Kamala Harris has a better chance of being the nominee than either of these women for precisely the same reason that she would fare worse in a general election, namely her gruesome obsession with punishing opponents of abortion. She would be acceptable to the NARAL wine-and-cheese crowd in a way that is not quite imaginable for Warren, who considers pocket-book issues more important than anything else.

A contest between a generic neoliberal and Trump would be a battle of airs and grievances, a duel for feigned moral superiority utterly divorced from practical moral and economic questions. It would be phantasmal, like the rest of our political life. Only a progressive candidate who could articulate the ways in which the Trump administration is a continuation of all the ills ? the shocking accumulation of unimaginable power and wealth by a handful of large tech companies, the relentless financialization of the economy, the absence of meaningful and well-remunerated full-time work, the crippling debt, the social breakdown that has made family life a privilege for the upper-middle class ? of his last three predecessors would meaningfully alter the terms of the engagement.

In a contest of images, don't bet against the reality TV star. For Trump to lose, the Democratic Party would have become the party of Rep. Rosa DeLauro. I don't think even Rosa expects that to happen.

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Democrats have been cock punching Republicans in state level election after state level election. Just this week Democrats took 2 more state seats from Republicans and it was 1 or 2 the week before as well. In Texas a Democrat has raised 2 times as much money as Ted Cruz and Texas has gone from solid Red to very purple..
And where are all these Democrats coming from, Crockett? Oh right, they're fleeing California because of out of control taxes and spending all the money on non-citizens.

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Last but not least, there were 2 groups who simply did not go out and vote this last election. They were the Latinos and Millennials. They stayed home over dissatisfaction with both Trump & Hillary..
Simply false. I know plenty of Latinos and young people who rejected the crooked establishment and voted for Trump. Why would anyone want a crooked establishment politician? Oh right they're clueless morons.

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Both have been fucked by Trump and are chomping at the bits to vote him out of office. Trump is done, he will be erased by the next Democrat who undoes everything he did, assuming he hasn't been impeached by the next presidential election.
^^ You really are quite delusional Crockett. Your news sources are lying Hillbots. Why would you fall for their lies? Oh right you're a gullible Hillbot. Gonna be fun watching the epic meltdowns in the coming months

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Sure thing Chicken little.. "look guys this will "really, really" be the week Hillary gets locked up, my 4chan friends are sure of it"..
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LOL this thread is hilarious...

trump got 3 million votes less than the worst possible candidate hillary...


for trump to win again the following miracles would have to happen:

1) his entire staff and him not going to jail...its not looking good for them at all
2) hillary runs again
3) a landslide of libbies not turning up at the next election
4) trump-onomics not seriously fucking up america in the next 3 years
5) kanye/oprah/the rock not running for office



trump "won" because people voted against hillary...they did not vote for trump...they voted against hillary...now that people got to know trump better LOL its not looking good at all for him...
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Its irrelevant who runs in 2020 it may as well be Trump again, and that's because Trump has done long term and lasting damage to the USA, there's no recovery from his presidency, he's the guy that single handily fucked the USA with the support of his moron followers.
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LOL this thread is hilarious...

trump got 3 million votes less than the worst possible candidate hillary...


for trump to win again the following miracles would have to happen:

1) his entire staff and him not going to jail...its not looking good for them at all
2) hillary runs again
3) a landslide of libbies not turning up at the next election
4) trump-onomics not seriously fucking up america in the next 3 years
5) kanye/oprah/the rock not running for office



trump "won" because people voted against hillary...they did not vote for trump...they voted against hillary...now that people got to know trump better LOL its not looking good at all for him...
Bingo! It wasnt Trump was great, it was Hillary sucked and is so disliked. I hope the DNC takes it head out of its ass.
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I agree, it seems the FBI's job these days IS to break every law there is..
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^^^ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!

BladeLiar is STILL pushing dumbass Russia conspiracies! What a nut job

The Dems have no one. Maybe if they elevate Tulsi Gabbard they might have a shot.. oh who am i kidding, they have no shot.

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Nearly a thousand days remain between us and Nov. 3, 2020, but President Trump is already making announcements about his next campaign.

I feel comfortable saying that he has this thing in the bag.
he hasn´t kept any of his promises for the last election, how could he win another
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only a clueless moron would vote for Trump.


He´s gone against everything he mocked others, his vacations, his emails & not showing tax. He´s pocketed more money than any other President, making money from you every weekend he goes to his golfing & he´s not done a single thing he promised to do.

He´s a jack ass and only a jack ass would follow him
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Ummm, he's kept pretty much all. That's why the left is railing so hard.. They're even allowing children to be murdered in schools just to get something on the table.
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Old 03-02-2018, 01:44 PM   #27
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He could win, but three years is a lifetime in politics. Any number of things could happen between now and then that could help him or badly hurt him.
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Old 03-02-2018, 08:43 PM   #28
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Ummm, he's kept pretty much all. That's why the left is railing so hard.. They're even allowing children to be murdered in schools just to get something on the table.
This is why you have zero credibility, you're just a stupid asshole and not even that interesting.
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Old 03-02-2018, 11:12 PM   #29
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I guess centrist democrats are screwed - either it's more Trump or a socialist. I don't think Biden can win.
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This is why you have zero credibility, you're just a stupid asshole and not even that interesting.


You mad bro? It's a fact that a heavily democratic town policed by a democratic sheriff pushing Obama's democratic policies allowed Cruz to become what he wanted to be. If you are upset about that then maybe your anger should be redirected....
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Old 03-03-2018, 09:20 AM   #31
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You mad bro? It's a fact that a heavily democratic town policed by a democratic sheriff pushing Obama's democratic policies allowed Cruz to become what he wanted to be. If you are upset about that then maybe your anger should be redirected....
^^^ It's like these people are allergic to truth and facts. Sorry, Ruff, but you're simply mistaken. Debbie Shultz and these sick democrats LOVE all the attention and money that's pouring in, because they're sick deomcrats.

Hey GSpot: President Donald J. Trump's Accomplishments List

But but but I thought he hasn't accomplished anything...?

Try getting some facts, instead of FAKE NEWS.

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Old 03-03-2018, 09:40 AM   #32
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Trump high skilled comrade now for being President.
Who if not Trump?

Who gives red button for liberals now?
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Old 03-03-2018, 10:21 AM   #33
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Black voter percentage (lowest ever black unemployment etc) being even higher than in 2016 would be the deciding factor.
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Old 03-04-2018, 12:25 AM   #34
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He will win, he is getting all the media coverage. Good or bad publicity is still a publicity.
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Old 03-04-2018, 12:53 AM   #35
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Its irrelevant who runs in 2020 it may as well be Trump again, and that's because Trump has done long term and lasting damage to the USA, there's no recovery from his presidency, he's the guy that single handily fucked the USA with the support of his moron followers.
The average person doesn't care how the country, economy, migrants, EU are doing. They worry about how they are doing. Do they have a job, enough benefits, will their children go to a decent school where they are safe, can they get healthcare, are they as well off as they once were, etc.

Most Americans are poorer because successive governments have been more worried about the few and ignored the many.
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only a clueless moron would vote for Trump.


He´s gone against everything he mocked others, his vacations, his emails & not showing tax. He´s pocketed more money than any other President, making money from you every weekend he goes to his golfing & he´s not done a single thing he promised to do.

He´s a jack ass and only a jack ass would follow him
The average person doesn't care how the country, economy, migrants, EU are doing. They worry about how they are doing. Do they have a job, enough benefits, will their children go to a decent school where they are safe, can they get healthcare, are they as well off as they once were, etc.

Most Americans are poorer because successive governments have been more worried about the few and ignored the many.
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The average person doesn't care how the country, economy, migrants, EU are doing. They worry about how they are doing. Do they have a job, enough benefits, will their children go to a decent school where they are safe, can they get healthcare, are they as well off as they once were, etc.

Most Americans are poorer because successive governments have been more worried about the few and ignored the many.
paul markhaming is what is destroying the west it has nothing to do with migrants...there were always migrants...what is new is the outsourcing and availability of cheap foreign goods...I mean who would you rather pay some expensive western model or a cheap 3rd world one? the answer is in your current passport
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