the most porntubes do not need bargain basement crap because the content sites give them this content for free and they beg to give it for free.
and yes the rest is bulk. why not if it brings millions of users? what is wrong on that?

you are so far from reality - you did not hear the bang yet from the lightning happend 15 years ago.

that standard porn sites can not afford to buy quality traffic has also to do with the always yesterday people.
90% of all membership sites do not even know what a postback is or have the technical solutions for that.
they are the once who are crying same you do. the money is made by the ones who do not live in yesterday.

can you even ASSUME how many BILLIONS of revenue are only made with dating sites in this days? Dating what are sold on...? YES !! FREE PORN SITES !!!!

do you know how huge the market for enhancement and diet products is ?

do you know how many gaming and gambling sites are getting A LOT of revenue from free porn sites ?

did you know that even AMAZON products are sold on free porn sites ?

do you know HOW MUCH MONEY the livecam sites are investing in direct media buy ?
how much the amateur sites are investinng in direct buys?
how much even the amateurs investing in direct buys ?

how much do you think is the lifetime user value on a membership site ????
100 us ????

how much do you think is the lifetime value of someone who believe in a sugar-pill what suggest him to get a hard dick from? how many people you think you will find were the placebo effect MAKE HIS DICK HARD?
How much do you think is the lifetimevalue from such a user who buys pills for 200 dollar EVERY FUCKING MONTH !!!!!

for fucking WHAT do i need membership sites?

their products do not make enough profit to BUY The traffic for the price we want - I am sorry for them !!!!!

paul accept it - your time is past - you have been lucky enough to start your biz in a time when even illiterates have been able to make a lot of money.
this time will NEVER come back because there is too much money in that biz that the smart ones would leave it in the hands of illiterates.
what is so hard to understand on that ????

I checked today the 5 most popular tube sites in chrome
They all have pops

they have pop overs - and they are not executed in empty space.
how long this will work ? nobody knows ! but it is still an option.

yep + lots of BIG sites still use that thing that when you click the link it opens up a new tab and the original/parent page redirects to an ad.

Everything can happen in future, they can even make banners non-compliant. Hell, they can even say how you can only use adsense and that would pass lol.
When i was doing test on top 3 tube sites, that behaviour was only occurring when using other browsers, on chrome it's was always window popup.
For those who wants further testing, i suggest to download user agent switcher so you can see how it act on desktop/mobile/browsers.

well, maybe not top 3 tubes, but Alexa under 100... still quite big.

Post some examples so i can test it with chrome beta.

X*hamster?

actually, what's the best way to control the ads by particual browser? I'd need something like this:

<do it if Chrome is used>
some ad code
</do it if Chrome is used>

<do it in all browsers except Chrome>
some ad code
<do it in all browsers except Chrome>

Yes of course. you have hundreds of plugins to detect browsers.
wordpress plugins, jquery for a normal sites. etc.

OK, I'm a dreamer. :1orglaugh

I'm just showing what I found and it wasn't good. You have never provided proof of anything you boast.

That is actually one of 3 top tubes which i tested.

Everything you say is right. But it would still be true if there was a flourishing porn industry. Ad sales via free porn haven't enhanced the porn business. If the products are good enough they can still be sold online.

The big dating sites wouldn't go near porn sites and advertise in the mainstream.

In fact very little from the mainstream is sold via porn tubes. You can show proof of that if you have it.

Do you know what porn made back in the day? Not the turnover of producers, the turn over of retail.

As for pills that get your dick hard, again the mainstream is providing the real thing. https://www.google.cz/search?dcr=0&e....yC94P2 dBRQY Once again you have proven you talk bullshit.

By giving away free porn you taken away and added nothing.

I understand I made my money before illiterates gave away free porn to scrape a few dollars per 1,000 click on an ad. There's not enough money to be made in porn today, to tempt me.

in Chrome 64?

WHO you think IS the porn industry ?

there are still thousands of porn products existing but nobody wants them (except a few new products in VR or porn games).

again a prove that you do not know the market.
i personally have a few mediabuying companies as advertisers ONLY for dating and they spend MILLIONS every month in every fucking available network - and they would even buy MUCH MORE if there would be more traffic.

paul if you do not believe me, than talk with the other guys who are in that.
your problem is that all your contacts you had before are already retired or banktupt.
you do not know the guys anymore who make the money.

show me a few porn sites (even from your time of noah´s arch) what have been sold for 100 million or more. even THAN it was AFF and stuff like that what got this values.
and today you will find the real high selling prices on porn tubes. why a fuck you think it is like that?

paul i am at least the same time in this biz as you are - but in opposite to you i am STILL here and make money. so don´t tell me about porn sites in the good old days. i started 1997 and had my fist paysite in 1999. so better tell your BS to the greenhorns but not to someone with 21 years of CONTINUING experience in porn.

and what?
have you ever had a look on the pornsites what is promoted there ?????

btw. one of the BIGGEST mediabuying companies in that sits in CZ. they are buying for aproximately 5 million traffic per month.
a few even bigger are in russia, india and the netherlands.
alone this periphery market is MUCH bigger as all paysites together.

tell it the TV stations - tell them to stop it and wait how many people will buy the DVDs.
you are such a dreamer

you NEVER made money paul !!!!
you THINK that you made money because you made more in relation as you did before.

in 2000 i made a PROFIT (NOT REVENUE) of 15-20 k PER DAY !!!!! you honk - and i was one of the smaller earners.
but we have not been that many competitors than and the traffic was from rich people who could afford internet.

but why do i tell you that?
it will not help you to turn time back and it will not even make you wiser.
you might be gulliver in midgetland but in the land of giants you are an ant.

Meh, we have been warned looong time ago and the truth is that nobody wants to see abusive content...whatsoever. My 2 cents.

Yes, chrome64. I will also post code which will allow you to execute code based on browser type, and also how to send traffic as skim instead popup which is one of solutions as well.

ok, great... BTW, I use Chrome 64 too and for me Xhamster and many other sites still open the clicked link in a new tab and redirect the parent page to an ad. you must delete cookies to test that.

Thommy, I know you poo-poo membership sites but where do you think the CONTENT comes from? Recorded live cams shows? OK fine. But you do realize that people want to see PORN, right? As in a PORN SCENE. Fully filmed, imagined, thought out, well produced with PORN STARS. Sure, amateurs are big too but they are essentially cam girls doing their own shit at home.

I am talking about PRODUCTION. And while you CAN go to a tube and see tons of free porn scenes those interested in higher quality or a niche still flock to paysites.

I always ask this: WHY do companies keep creating and releasing new paysites if the Adult Industry is, as you say, nothing more than dating, cams and dick pills? Why even bother then?

Oh right - because Membership sites are the ONLY place where new content is being filmed. Period. Oh yes, DVDs too but that market has shrunk to almost nothing.

I don't mind ad networks making millions selling cam pops but do not think for an instant that this constitutes the entire Adult Industry OR the desires of the consumer.

@thommy I really need your help, my ads company says I am the ONLY one effected they say the reason for this is because of the POP-UP alone not their Flash Ads.

They seem to think if I remove the pop-up and send the site in for review it will be fine. This is not correct I know but they have no knowledge of these issues and never even seem to know this could happen. They are a very big and well know company BTW.

I will pay you for your help I am in deep trouble and my ads company is lost and blame ME for this.

@thommy you have a Skype so we can talk I will pay you for your time thank you. I will be back with-in an hour thx

so you are selling fraud things (diet, dating etc.) and you are proud. porn is dead if you are a fair individual webmaster, producer etc. but yeah brokers, thieves are happy yet. but check pls mobidea, bitterstrawberry, traffic company rpm rates for example. it was 10x 5 years ago. if you can't send millions of traffic you earn pennies

Google does earn something from directing people to porn sites;
they earn traffic.

If surfers who are looking for porn can't find it through google then they will use a different
search method.


:2 cents:

@thommy when you are around please let me know desperately need some help

Why would you need help from him. Just log in to the webmaster console, watch the screen recording the reviewer made and remove/replace the ads they pointed out to be abusive and then submit it for review. Many times they come back with more issues and you fix those too and eventually everything is clean and they will approve the site. I went through this process for quite some sites and it's really not hard.

I checked your site and you should remove whatever pop code you are currently using.
Your site triggers pops multiple times, not just on first click, but also if you go the video page and click something there it triggers pops again.

Alos on mobile it tries to trigger multiple pops on pressing the play button. You should definitely not trigger pops on pressing play button.
https://i.imgur.com/bCb1rj5.png

I'm sure that if you remove your pop code or put a proper one your site will pass the review.

Man this is a HUGE mess I am not sure what banners they flag, we have 16 little videos no text or clear flags or anything. I am not sure how to set-up out pop-up or under that will comply and I need a professional report to give too our ads companies as it seems I am one of the first too ever be effected they know about.

He seems the best informed person so I believe he would be best to help me and too create professional reports help our ads companies better underrated the rules when this comes up on other sites.

This is very important not something I can screw up I need to know for sure I pull down the righ ads and set-up the pop-up/up-under in the right way so the site will pass review

@Konda you don't understand man, this is just the replacement code I was given this is the same pop-up script this Huge company gives to everyone. It only opens on the first click on the page has nothing to do with the videos.

I checked your site and I'm pretty sure the biggest issue is the pops. So start with removing that and submit for re-review. If there are still any other issues they will point it out.

PS I noticed on mobile at the top, there is very high ad density, this might be an issue as well, but first thing is to remove that pop because it's a very bad one the way it triggers.

It doesn't only trigger on first click. I tried on desktop and mobile and it triggers again when you go to the video page. And on mobile even on pressing the video play button.

You really need to get rid of that pop code you are using and submit for re-review so at least your other ads will start working again. Then you can look into finding proper pop that they will approve.

I went through this for multiple sites. Sometimes it took multiple reviews to get everything removed that they wanted removed. There is no tricks around it.

I can not just remove the POP I need clear instructions how to make this complaint in both Mobile and desktop, that pop is our most important sponsors I can't afford to operate the site with-out it.

If the mobile ads are an issue we can adjust but I need clear instructions from someone that really knows about this and has done this before. I also need too create Clear and professional reports about this I can give too our ads companies so they can better help others that soon find themselves in this same position.

I do have a better pop-up/under script we can use but I need to work with someone that has done this before of large sites and can better inform all of us what is going on. To create a playbook I guess you can say. I am one of the first effected so what we do needs to be professionally documented so I can share it with our ads companies. I will check back soon hope he is around

The problem is no one has clear instructions. I went through this for multiple sites and some ads got through on one site and not on another.

Also it's not 100% clear about what pops are allowed exactly. Some type of pops seems to get through. But the one you are currently using is definitely a big problem.

It's just trial and error. You remove/replace what they point out. Submit for re-review. Then they will say if it's good or not. If not, you try something else and submit again.

But there are no clear rules unfortunately, no one knows exactly, so you just have to keep trying. On some sites we had to remove pops completely to pass while on others it went through with pops.

So instead of waiting and not having any ads for chrome users at all, just start with removing the pop and whatever else they point out so at least your other ads will work. And then after it is approved try to add some different pop codes from other networks.

You ONLY get 2 tries after the second review the site can not be reviewed again for 30days. This is NOt something you can just send back over and over until its ok. Just please tell him to e-mail me when he is around I do thank you. But this is Very important I need to work with the best person I can find and that seems to be @thommy

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@Konda I really do appreciate your help and deeply thankful but this is Very important I only have 2 shots too fix this I really need to try to work with the best most informed person possible.

got your mail and added you in skype.

I don't think this concept will work... manual reviews of the whole web? the ads on sites change constantly... if a site passes their manual review some day, it doesn't mean shit... agressive ads and popup hells can appear the next day there... they would have to keep reviewing the sites again and again... constantly, and they can't expect people reporting anything, those annoyed by ads just install adblock and don't give a shit. yesterday Pornhub triggered a popup opened in a new window, today they again open the clicked link in a new tab and redirect the parent page to an ad.