How is the Goth niche doing? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

aeon · 04-30-2003, 08:49 PM

Actually not trying to be a jerk...dunno you enough to be a jerk and I'm not exactly a regular here. Put it this way - I wouldn't want to accuse/dance with any sponsor program unless I was absolutely sure my point would hold up...they have a nasty habit of including lawyers.

Most don't take too kindly to being accused of stealing...

best of luck -
aeon

pimplink · 04-30-2003, 08:49 PM

Depends on the site. But this niche does decent.

Voodoo · 04-30-2003, 11:32 PM

I invented Gothic.

Gothic · 04-30-2003, 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by Voodoo
I invented Gothic.

No No No! I invented Gothic!

Brujah · 04-30-2003, 11:38 PM

No, you just spit black.

SykkBoy · 04-30-2003, 11:40 PM

I left darkdollars to get out of the goth niche...I guess I was mainly in it because it's my preferred niche, but it became my albatross as that's all anyone ever thought about when thinking of me...so I moved on to bigger and better...goth converts quite well, but it's a very small, very finite niche....
you have to balance "should I cater to the hardcore goth crowd or the "mainstream fratboy who just saw The Craft and wants a wank at a Fairuza Balk wannabe?" Well, the "hardcore" goths don't seem to spend as much as the fratboys, but the one who do stay longer...

I just decided I'm no longer in the business to indulge in my own personal tastes, I'm here to make money....

then I can afford all the gothic hookers, strippers and adult performers I want........

Brujah · 05-01-2003, 12:22 AM

Sykk killed the thread.

rbrruss · 05-01-2003, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Voodoo
I invented Gothic.

SykkBoy · 05-01-2003, 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by Brujah
Sykk killed the thread.

behold the mighty gothic thread killa!

I still want to produce a BangHearse site though....driving a hearse through a cemetary and picking up goth chicks......maybe a little bloodplay and some tombstone humpin'

gruffy · 05-01-2003, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2
I left darkdollars to get out of the goth niche...I guess I was mainly in it because it's my preferred niche, but it became my albatross as that's all anyone ever thought about when thinking of me...so I moved on to bigger and better...goth converts quite well, but it's a very small, very finite niche....
you have to balance "should I cater to the hardcore goth crowd or the "mainstream fratboy who just saw The Craft and wants a wank at a Fairuza Balk wannabe?" Well, the "hardcore" goths don't seem to spend as much as the fratboys, but the one who do stay longer...

I was trying to figure out who is going to pay to see this stuff.

Every "goth" I've known is always broke, and the "goths sex" girls are about as attractive as a paxil commercial.

Some of the glamour stuff black & white stuff is very nice - but selling a site membership based on that can't be easy.

If there was bloodsports added I could see a highpaying dedicated niche market - but thats a whole lotta legal trouble.

Brujah · 05-01-2003, 10:19 AM

I'll buy a hearse.

cherrylula · 05-01-2003, 10:22 AM

As long as Hot Topic keeps shoving their trendy gothic fashion down the throats of today's youth, the goth niche can only flourish.

SykkBoy · 05-01-2003, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by Brujah
I'll buy a hearse.

I saw one for sale recently in the Vegas paper...hehehe

I'm not sure if I'd want to play it straight or as a campy spoof of the bangbus type stuff...if a spoof, not sure how many would "get it"

gruffy, I find goth girls very hot, it's that whole mysterious vibe.....it's the anti-blonde bimbo thing I have....but, yeah, it is a tough market....and it was where we were with darkdollars...do we keep it "real" and jjust get by or do we appeal a bit more mainstream and sell more memebrships but piss off longtime subscribers who are offfended by watering it down...

Fletch XXX · 05-01-2003, 10:27 AM

I have a silly gothic jew friend that I make fun of when he gets drunk.

Brujah · 05-01-2003, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I have a silly gothic jew friend that I make fun of when he gets drunk.

Oy, I'm so depressed.. pass me a clove.

gruffy · 05-01-2003, 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2

I'm not sure if I'd want to play it straight or as a campy spoof of the bangbus type stuff...if a spoof, not sure how many would "get it"

Heh, can't go wrong with a slut rising from the dead and sucking off the driver.

xxxice · 05-01-2003, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by gothweb

I think goth is doing pretty well.

Can you please post the key for this graph?

Thanks ...

SykkBoy · 05-01-2003, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by gruffy

Heh, can't go wrong with a slut rising from the dead and sucking off the driver.

ooh, zombie fucking...never even thought of that angle...

suddenly Wendy O. Williams "You're A Zombie" is playing in my head.......

cherrylula · 05-01-2003, 11:10 AM

hahaha yeah hearse bang

Brujah · 05-01-2003, 11:15 AM

gruffy · 05-01-2003, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2

ooh, zombie fucking...never even thought of that angle...

suddenly Wendy O. Williams "You're A Zombie" is playing in my head.......

Or spin it off as horny vampire chick.

Either way its gold.

Now paypal me %20 of what it makes so I don't have to come break your legs.

SykkBoy · 05-01-2003, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by gruffy

Or spin it off as horny vampire chick.

Either way its gold.

Now paypal me %20 of what it makes so I don't have to come break your legs.

I used to work for a company that did custom videos and e would get a lot of request for vampire stuff...

I've been considering some horror-porn type stuff...it pisses off the white hats, but a nice comb of flesh, blood, danger and flesh would do well, IMHO

Jason Does Dallas
Nightmare On Naked Blond Bimbo Street
Pornoween

hmmmmm, the wheels are turning, the stomach in churning...beds are burning.....

SykkBoy · 05-01-2003, 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by Brujah

I would hit that......twice...and go back for anal......

Brujah · 05-01-2003, 11:50 AM

She fucked boneprone, with a spiked strap-on.

SykkBoy · 05-01-2003, 11:53 AM

That's like my dream girl....the type that when she's done humping me into the bed, she'll drive an icepick into the back of my skull during the finishing kiss......

AmeliaG · 05-01-2003, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2
That's like my dream girl....the type that when she's done humping me into the bed, she'll drive an icepick into the back of my skull during the finishing kiss......

Kind of Basic Instinct with a more unusual haircut?

AmeliaG · 05-01-2003, 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah
It's lonely at the top.

Well put. I love you.

Might be lonely, but it beats the alternative.

AmeliaG · 05-01-2003, 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by slavdogg
ForrestBlack, dont you think its a little silly for you to be saying someone stole your fonts ??

come on now,
your site is nearly an identical copy of a very popular site

http://suicidegirls.com/main.sg < their site
http://www.barelyevil.com/home.html < your site

<hahahaha= laughing so hard I may rupture something

Forrest is in charge of the look and feel of the SpookyCash.com sites, so he is sensitive to people riffing on his designs. I don't think it is that big a deal. In any niche, the real thing converts better than the corporate style sites do. Anyone in this thread who knows the niche knows why it is hysterical that you just made the comparison you did. Send GothicSluts.com (the site you are most comfortable with the tour on) some productive traffic and I'll give you a free history lesson at your request.

Love, Amelia

AmeliaG · 05-01-2003, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slavdogg
ForrestBlack, dont you think its a little silly for you to be saying someone stole your fonts ??

come on now,
your site is nearly an identical copy of a very popular site

http://suicidegirls.com/main.sg < their site
http://www.barelyevil.com/home.html < your site

<------ laughing so hard I may rupture something

Forrest is in charge of the look and feel of the SpookyCash.com sites, so he is sensitive to people riffing on his designs. I don't think it is that big a deal. In any niche, the real thing converts better than the corporate style sites do. Anyone in this thread who knows the niche knows why it is hysterical that you just made the comparison you did. Send GothicSluts.com (the site you are most comfortable with the tour on) some productive traffic and I'll give you a free history lesson at your request.

Love, Amelia

AmeliaG · 05-01-2003, 01:15 PM

Hey, I double-posted. Maybe I did rupture something...

OzKaNoz · 05-01-2003, 02:14 PM

The more I read this post the more it makes me want to open a goth site.
I've got some great idea's and the replies to this post have been helpful.
Now it's just finding the time to do it. I really wish there were more hours in a day.

Oz

slavdogg · 05-01-2003, 04:38 PM

AmeliaG, selective reading will get you far

Troels · 05-01-2003, 05:08 PM

Hmm not sure if I should jump in here, since I know absolutely nothing about goth or any other kind of bizarre sexual fetish.
BUT, I'm pretty sure some will find this informative:
A friend of mine runs http://www.bloodurge.com/ - probably not your average goth site, if it's even that. But it is extreme. And extreme sells.
The site is designed by a top adult designer which doesn't hurt conversions either - and no traffic leaks for Slavik to worry about ;)

Over and out.

gruffy · 05-01-2003, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SykkBoy2

I've been considering some horror-porn type stuff...it pisses off the white hats, but a nice comb of flesh, blood, danger and flesh would do well, IMHO

Jason Does Dallas
Nightmare On Naked Blond Bimbo Street
Pornoween

I'm in for "Whores of Sodom"... all anal all a2m vampire chicks.

Just think the little brownish-red trickle down the side of the lip could make a million easy.

gruffy · 05-01-2003, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Troels
Hmm not sure if I should jump in here, since I know absolutely nothing about goth or any other kind of bizarre sexual fetish.
BUT, I'm pretty sure some will find this informative:
A friend of mine runs http://www.bloodurge.com/ - probably not your average goth site, if it's even that. But it is extreme. And extreme sells.
The site is designed by a top adult designer which doesn't hurt conversions either - and no traffic leaks for Slavik to worry about ;)

Over and out.

That really shouldn't turn a well adjusted character like myself on, but for some reason it does.

is Dutchbilling mob pWned?

Troels · 05-01-2003, 05:35 PM

Doesn't turn me on one bit, but still, when he showed me this fulll page ad.... I think it's the best porn ad I've ever seen.

http://www.bloodbucks.com/gfx-banner..._kitty_01.html

slavdogg · 05-01-2003, 06:45 PM

Troels, hows it going ?

We gonna party in Miami like its 2001 ??

)

slavdogg · 05-01-2003, 06:48 PM

btw the blood site looks amazing
that made me remember that i have a lot of traffic for something like that.

thanks

whos site is that, do i know him ??

Gothic · 05-01-2003, 06:55 PM

How is my "what" doing?

slavdogg · 05-01-2003, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah

this chick is hot
looks like Angelina Jolie

OzKaNoz · 05-01-2003, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Troels
Doesn't turn me on one bit, but still, when he showed me this fulll page ad.... I think it's the best porn ad I've ever seen.

http://www.bloodbucks.com/gfx-banner..._kitty_01.html

That seems a little extreme to me from the little I know about goth.

So this isn't the theme of most goth sites is it? I mean the bath on of blood?

Oz

SykkBoy · 05-01-2003, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Troels
Doesn't turn me on one bit, but still, when he showed me this fulll page ad.... I think it's the best porn ad I've ever seen.

http://www.bloodbucks.com/gfx-banner..._kitty_01.html

I've seen that picture series, if I remember right, there are some pics of her sitting in the tub with a severed cow's head.....just the kind of girl I'd like to bring home to mom ;))

AmeliaG · 05-01-2003, 11:24 PM

Hee hee, I've worked with really a lot of those people. Anyone know if that dutchbilling company is a reliable payer?

slavdogg · 05-01-2003, 11:28 PM

dutchbilling is very reliable .

UnseenWorld · 05-01-2003, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
As long as Hot Topic keeps shoving their trendy gothic fashion down the throats of today's youth, the goth niche can only flourish.

Let's not make Hot Topic responsible for teen buying decisions. The kids going into Hot Topic are not going in with a gun to their head. If the kids are helpless to resist good marketing, it's not Hot Topic's fault, it's the fault of the kids' parents.

SykkBoy · 05-01-2003, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AmeliaG
Hee hee, I've worked with really a lot of those people. Anyone know if that dutchbilling company is a reliable payer?

dutchbilling rocks

and aren't as picky about what they process for *cough*way underground sites*cough* either

always a good payer, never miss a payment

Porn Mickey · 05-02-2003, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
goth is doing great !!
just look at this graph:

what color?

Troels · 05-02-2003, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slavdogg
btw the blood site looks amazing
that made me remember that i have a lot of traffic for something like that.

thanks

whos site is that, do i know him ??

Hey Slavik,

Hopefully we won't get thrown out of the bar this time

I know Maarten, George and Jonas are going. Marius and I probably as well.

No, I don't think you know the guy behind bloodurge.com, but he's a friend of me, Jonas & Marius. He's a good guy, although he's Norwegian

Btw, could you please stop buying all those good domains?
Leave some for the rest of us! ;)

Brujah · 06-13-2003, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slavdogg

this chick is hot
looks like Angelina Jolie

Still no content like it yet tho

bhutocracy · 06-13-2003, 01:53 AM

AHAHAHAhahahha i've only just read this thread.. i can't believe somone's whining about having their logo font ripped off when it's the fucking buffy the vampire slayer logo font. christ. there are only a couple of fonts and certain terminology out there that suit goth stuff.. if you don't expect the text and terminology to look the same within a highly specialised aesthetically predetermined niche go hack yourself in the face with a chisel till you wake up.
In a small niche with a definate style you're going to get heaps of repetition.

04-30-2003, 08:49 PM	#52
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04-30-2003, 11:32 PM	#53
Voodoo ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 10,592	I invented Gothic. __________________ "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

04-30-2003, 11:38 PM	#55
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04-30-2003, 11:40 PM	#56
SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	I left darkdollars to get out of the goth niche...I guess I was mainly in it because it's my preferred niche, but it became my albatross as that's all anyone ever thought about when thinking of me...so I moved on to bigger and better...goth converts quite well, but it's a very small, very finite niche.... you have to balance "should I cater to the hardcore goth crowd or the "mainstream fratboy who just saw The Craft and wants a wank at a Fairuza Balk wannabe?" Well, the "hardcore" goths don't seem to spend as much as the fratboys, but the one who do stay longer... I just decided I'm no longer in the business to indulge in my own personal tastes, I'm here to make money.... then I can afford all the gothic hookers, strippers and adult performers I want........ __________________ Support my new movie “The Second Coming”

05-01-2003, 12:22 AM	#57
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04-30-2003, 08:49 PM	#51
aeon Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 470	Actually not trying to be a jerk...dunno you enough to be a jerk and I'm not exactly a regular here. Put it this way - I wouldn't want to accuse/dance with any sponsor program unless I was absolutely sure my point would hold up...they have a nasty habit of including lawyers. Most don't take too kindly to being accused of stealing... best of luck - aeon

05-01-2003, 10:19 AM	#61
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05-01-2003, 10:22 AM	#62
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	As long as Hot Topic keeps shoving their trendy gothic fashion down the throats of today's youth, the goth niche can only flourish.

05-01-2003, 10:27 AM	#64
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05-01-2003, 11:10 AM	#69
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	hahaha yeah hearse bang

05-01-2003, 11:15 AM	#70
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05-01-2003, 11:50 AM	#74
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05-01-2003, 11:53 AM	#75
SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	That's like my dream girl....the type that when she's done humping me into the bed, she'll drive an icepick into the back of my skull during the finishing kiss...... __________________ Support my new movie “The Second Coming”

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05-01-2003, 02:14 PM	#81
OzKaNoz Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Deep With In Your Mind Posts: 1,834	The more I read this post the more it makes me want to open a goth site. I've got some great idea's and the replies to this post have been helpful. Now it's just finding the time to do it. I really wish there were more hours in a day. Oz __________________ Techie Media Web Hosting

05-01-2003, 04:38 PM	#82
slavdogg Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,570	AmeliaG, selective reading will get you far

05-01-2003, 05:08 PM	#83
Troels Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Between the clouds Posts: 1,035	Hmm not sure if I should jump in here, since I know absolutely nothing about goth or any other kind of bizarre sexual fetish. BUT, I'm pretty sure some will find this informative: A friend of mine runs http://www.bloodurge.com/ - probably not your average goth site, if it's even that. But it is extreme. And extreme sells. The site is designed by a top adult designer which doesn't hurt conversions either - and no traffic leaks for Slavik to worry about ;) Over and out.

05-01-2003, 05:35 PM	#86
Troels Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Between the clouds Posts: 1,035	Doesn't turn me on one bit, but still, when he showed me this fulll page ad.... I think it's the best porn ad I've ever seen. http://www.bloodbucks.com/gfx-banner..._kitty_01.html

05-01-2003, 06:45 PM	#87
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05-01-2003, 06:48 PM	#88
slavdogg Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,570	btw the blood site looks amazing that made me remember that i have a lot of traffic for something like that. thanks whos site is that, do i know him ??

05-01-2003, 06:55 PM	#89
Gothic Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 23	How is my "what" doing? __________________ This fucking sucks!

05-01-2003, 11:24 PM	#93
AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,570	Hee hee, I've worked with really a lot of those people. Anyone know if that dutchbilling company is a reliable payer? __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

05-01-2003, 11:28 PM	#94
slavdogg Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,570	dutchbilling is very reliable .

06-13-2003, 01:53 AM	#100
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	AHAHAHAhahahha i've only just read this thread.. i can't believe somone's whining about having their logo font ripped off when it's the fucking buffy the vampire slayer logo font. christ. there are only a couple of fonts and certain terminology out there that suit goth stuff.. if you don't expect the text and terminology to look the same within a highly specialised aesthetically predetermined niche go hack yourself in the face with a chisel till you wake up. In a small niche with a definate style you're going to get heaps of repetition.