THIS is why AaronM is trying to save all your asses - GoFuckYourself.com

asuna · 04-23-2003, 06:39 PM

so something like this doesn't happen
well part of it

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He says the day of the photo shoot, Rogers signed the same five-page "model-release form" he gives to all his aspiring models, which specifically authorizes placement of their photos on his Web site.

However, since he has moved, he claims has not been able to locate the document and believes it may be in storage in Chico.

http://www.chicoer.com/Stories/0,141...344418,00.html

AdultNex · 04-23-2003, 06:42 PM

Donny · 04-23-2003, 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by asuna
so something like this doesn't happen
well part of it

http://www.chicoer.com/Stories/0,141...344418,00.html

The girl never posed for a single client. Read the whole story. Also, read this thread:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=127697

Like I said in that thread:

I didn't archive it because I never shot her for any of my clients (only two clients wanted her and one had a stipulation that she'd have to shoot boy/girl). When a client asks for a shoot of a model I archive her photos and all legal docs onto DVD's that are stored in 2 different places.

But this girl never showed back up for her appointment. I never scanned or archived her release. Now I can't find it.

All she posed for was a "test" shoot. It was NON explicit. She took her clothes off... no spreading, nothing.

Fletch XXX · 04-23-2003, 07:03 PM

man Donny that really sucks ass man, nothing worst than a backstabbing fucking whore.

4 horses. 4 ropes. 4 directions.

asuna · 04-23-2003, 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

4 horses. 4 ropes. 4 directions.

SothArtist · 04-23-2003, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by asuna
so something like this doesn't happen
well part of it

http://www.chicoer.com/Stories/0,141...344418,00.html

haha at least you know she is fucked for life now. That will be her payback

Donny · 04-23-2003, 07:08 PM

By the way, when a client purchases content from me, they receive a copy of all legal docs, both printed and on CD, for each model. That way they also have them for their own records.

LadyMischief · 04-23-2003, 07:13 PM

Dumb bitch.. Why do models walk in assuming nobody is going to see them? Hellllllllo mcfly! What the fuck did she think the pictures were for? And if she didn't want them presented in a sexual fashion, why the fuck did she get naked? For the money? Puhhlease.. these girls have at least SOME clue of the implications of what they do.. Yeesh.

12clicks · 04-23-2003, 07:14 PM

pics?

Donny · 04-23-2003, 07:21 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
pics?

I'm not going to release them. Not even after the case is over. Believe me, it's tempting to post them all over the 'net... but I do have a little bit of class to prevent me from doing this. And as much as the girl angers me by filing this lawsuit I have to realize that she is just an 18 year old girl and probably has reasons for doing this that make sense to her.

Just because she's making a bad decision filing this suit doesn't mean I should make a bad decision and post her photos all over.

But if you must know, she wasn't a "hot" model by any means. That's why there were only 2 approvals for her from my clients.

asuna · 04-23-2003, 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

I'm not going to release them. Not even after the case is over. Believe me, it's tempting to post them all over the 'net... but I do have a little bit of class to prevent me from doing this. And as much as the girl angers me by filing this lawsuit I have to realize that she is just an 18 year old girl and probably has reasons for doing this that make sense to her.

Just because she's making a bad decision filing this suit doesn't mean I should make a bad decision and post her photos all over.

But if you must know, she wasn't a "hot" model by any means. That's why there were only 2 approvals for her from my clients.

Atleast she learned a valueble lesson

NoCarrier · 04-23-2003, 07:23 PM

Who cares. I don't even know AaronM personally but I know he's a nice guy, he's a party guy and he knows his business.

clixx · 04-23-2003, 07:23 PM

This is too strange,
6 years shooting , no blemishes
then one girl decides to sue and she happens to be the one with the misplaced release documents.

is this like divine intervention or what, well at least for the model it is..

just plain old bad luck for the shooter
hope you find those docs

SteveLightspeed · 04-23-2003, 07:24 PM

Donnie, did you put her pics on a talent site, or on a paysite?

12clicks · 04-23-2003, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

But if you must know, she wasn't a "hot" model by any means. That's why there were only 2 approvals for her from my clients.

ouch

Olivier · 04-23-2003, 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
Dumb bitch.. Why do models walk in assuming nobody is going to see them? Hellllllllo mcfly! What the fuck did she think the pictures were for? And if she didn't want them presented in a sexual fashion, why the fuck did she get naked? For the money? Puhhlease.. these girls have at least SOME clue of the implications of what they do.. Yeesh.

This is really a stupid girl I think. I would love to know how she looks!

This girl know what the photos were for. Damn, she went to pose nude and accepted to do it.

Now she try to get a shit load of money from a reputable photographer. I mean FUCK THIS GIRL!!!

So what, she think that she can fuck around to get money from a lawsuit. What the fuck!

1- She know what is was.
2- She signed the models release, so she know what is going on!
3- She's been told what is going to happen to that content: It's gonna be on the Internet! dumb!
4- And she even SIGN UP with CCBILL!! man so she was willing to make money from this!!! and it's PORN God damn!!

So we should all say: FUCK YOU

stupid girl

Sorry for all the "fucks" but, man, It piss me off when I see things like that! This model know what was going on, why she try to fuck around...

It's like, she said that to herself:

Stupid 18 y/o girl:

"

- Cool I'm gonna do some porn for money! Gotta pay that college...

Then after, her friends, daddy...whatever, find out the site and found her. And it's now hell!

- Oh my God! They all saw me nude, and they think that I'm a whore now (yes you are) so better go kick the ass of the photographer so I can make some money, and I'll earn respect, because people will think that I am a poor victim girl. So I will say that I take "anxiety" stupid-ass medication.

- I will be so popular after that. People will help me, and after that they will all say that I'm a good girl and blablabla....

- Then, I will be so popular that I will be on TV!!!! and I can be a Pop Star!!! wow!

- So I better sue this photographer now!! Let's do it!

"
END

So, I have a big respect for girls, I like girls, I love girls, but this one, she doesn't deserve my respect. Fuck her! or shoudl I say: go fuck yourself girl!

DonovanPhillips: I support you man!

Win that lawsuit, and let me know what happen bro!

ICQ: 96699802

olivier at angelcontent.com

Hope that things like that will not happen again

LadyMischief · 04-23-2003, 08:14 PM

I'm with you Olivier.. I had a model attempt to pull some of the "I didn't know the pics were going on the internet" shit, which is TOTALLY untrue. My policy is that the FIRST thing I do when I see a new model is tell her what the pics are for and let her know about the possibiility that someone she knows might see them. If she's not prepared for it.. she can leave. Her little bullshit crying game didn't last long though. If you don't want to suffer "consequences" don't get naked.. no matter how much you need the money. Get welfare instead. Cripes.

Olivier · 04-23-2003, 08:20 PM

LadyMischief that's the same way we work!
Even before we saw the girl, we told her on the phone that it's porn on the web. So they know what is going on. Then, we explain that the content is for Internet so everyone can have access to it. And we let the models decide if they think they can handle that. And they do!

I'm happy to say that we have no problems with our girls, because, at first, before meeting, they know that the work is gonna be porn on the web.

Cheers!

goBigtime · 04-23-2003, 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
By the way, when a client purchases content from me, they receive a copy of all legal docs, both printed and on CD, for each model. That way they also have them for their own records.

Donny · 04-23-2003, 08:38 PM

Donovan:

A quick bit of advice. Everything that you say on the boards or in email is admissible evidence. Plaintiff's counsel will simply subpoena all emails and chat board submissions. I suggest you stop communicating this way to anyone but your legal counsel. If the Plaintiff's counsel contacts you, refer him to me. Do not talk to him any further.

R
Richard A. Chapo, Esq.
AdultInternetLaw.com
5473 Kearny Villa Road, Ste. 210
San Diego, California 92123
858-427-2170

I guess I have to shut up now.

UnseenWorld · 04-23-2003, 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
Dumb bitch.. Why do models walk in assuming nobody is going to see them? Hellllllllo mcfly! What the fuck did she think the pictures were for? And if she didn't want them presented in a sexual fashion, why the fuck did she get naked? For the money? Puhhlease.. these girls have at least SOME clue of the implications of what they do.. Yeesh.

Well, you see, it seems a lot of girls walk in with the assumption they are going to be working with a pervert who just takes photos for his own masturbatory purposes. They seemingly don't listen too hard. I used to tell girls I was a "content provider" and since then have reverted to a more plain English "I sell my photos to other websites," but now and then I still get a girl who is surprised someone saw her picture somewhere and phones to ask how that could possibly happen.

Some girls are under the mistaken delusion that if they do only "exclusive content" for "private sites," this will magically keep their photos out of the public eye. I explain to them that the members of these private sites are downloading that content furiously and that some of these guys belong to photo-trading forums. All limiting her work to posing for exclusive content can accomplish is the mere postponing for a while of the photos appearing everywhere.

Also, some "exclusive" sites hawk that content day and day out in every TGP they can find. And there is no guarantee that once content has outlived its usefulness as exclusive photography it won't appear on a content site somewhere. Finally, policies change and websites change hands.

I even tell girls that their photos will not only never go away, but that they can count on the propagating and the quantity expanding all the time, because every day many more copies are being made than deleted.

It makes no money, whatever their motivation, they are risk takers at that moment and the excitement or money or whatever their motive is overrides their perception of the risk.

A good photographer NEVER minimizes the risk and even may try to throw a bit of a scare into a girl whose ideas are a bit too rosey about the risk of discovery.

Duh!

04-23-2003, 07:03 PM	#4
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	man Donny that really sucks ass man, nothing worst than a backstabbing fucking whore. 4 horses. 4 ropes. 4 directions. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

04-23-2003, 07:13 PM	#8
LadyMischief Orgasms N Such! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 18,135	Dumb bitch.. Why do models walk in assuming nobody is going to see them? Hellllllllo mcfly! What the fuck did she think the pictures were for? And if she didn't want them presented in a sexual fashion, why the fuck did she get naked? For the money? Puhhlease.. these girls have at least SOME clue of the implications of what they do.. Yeesh. __________________ ICQ 3522039 Content Manager - orgasm.com [email protected]

04-23-2003, 07:14 PM	#9
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	pics? __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

04-23-2003, 07:23 PM	#12
NoCarrier We need more free porn Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 16,356	Who cares. I don't even know AaronM personally but I know he's a nice guy, he's a party guy and he knows his business. __________________

04-23-2003, 08:14 PM	#17
LadyMischief Orgasms N Such! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 18,135	I'm with you Olivier.. I had a model attempt to pull some of the "I didn't know the pics were going on the internet" shit, which is TOTALLY untrue. My policy is that the FIRST thing I do when I see a new model is tell her what the pics are for and let her know about the possibiility that someone she knows might see them. If she's not prepared for it.. she can leave. Her little bullshit crying game didn't last long though. If you don't want to suffer "consequences" don't get naked.. no matter how much you need the money. Get welfare instead. Cripes. __________________ ICQ 3522039 Content Manager - orgasm.com [email protected]

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Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	By the way, when a client purchases content from me, they receive a copy of all legal docs, both printed and on CD, for each model. That way they also have them for their own records.

04-23-2003, 07:23 PM	#13
clixx Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 270	This is too strange, 6 years shooting , no blemishes then one girl decides to sue and she happens to be the one with the misplaced release documents. is this like divine intervention or what, well at least for the model it is.. just plain old bad luck for the shooter hope you find those docs

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SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	Donnie, did you put her pics on a talent site, or on a paysite?

04-23-2003, 08:20 PM	#18
Olivier Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 656	LadyMischief that's the same way we work! Even before we saw the girl, we told her on the phone that it's porn on the web. So they know what is going on. Then, we explain that the content is for Internet so everyone can have access to it. And we let the models decide if they think they can handle that. And they do! I'm happy to say that we have no problems with our girls, because, at first, before meeting, they know that the work is gonna be porn on the web. Cheers!

04-23-2003, 08:38 PM	#20
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	Donovan: A quick bit of advice. Everything that you say on the boards or in email is admissible evidence. Plaintiff's counsel will simply subpoena all emails and chat board submissions. I suggest you stop communicating this way to anyone but your legal counsel. If the Plaintiff's counsel contacts you, refer him to me. Do not talk to him any further. R Richard A. Chapo, Esq. AdultInternetLaw.com 5473 Kearny Villa Road, Ste. 210 San Diego, California 92123 858-427-2170 I guess I have to shut up now. Last edited by DonovanPhillips; 04-23-2003 at 08:40 PM..