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Old 04-22-2003, 11:01 PM   #51
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I hope so, it's funny.
Yea, they damn sure got their name stuck in everybody's head.


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Old 04-22-2003, 11:02 PM   #52
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they were probably told that it was a "double opt-in" email list....

that none of us ever opted into.

That who concept still blows me away. If swoit here buys a doulbe opt-in list, and mails all of us.. what the hell good is it? Them being new and all, we obviously never single opted in to diddly from them.

Such a messed up world this is.

Anyway, I have been signing up to sponsors within the last 3 months for my new project (in sig) and using a brand new email addy specifically for that purpose.

And I got a swoit.com spam to it. So they have a fairly recent list to spam to.
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Old 04-22-2003, 11:05 PM   #53
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im gonna double opt-in my foot in some ass soon that's for damn sure
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Where's SWOIT? Come on SWOIT, answer the questions SWOIT. You took the time to feed us some bullshit, give us some answers, SWOIT. Hello? Anyone home, SWOIT? Oh SWOIT, where are you SWOIT?
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I'm here to confirm officially that Swoit.com (what kind of name is that anyway?) Zavron or CJ are no longer affiliated with Sexhit or Intergal in anyway and they haven't been for months.

If you have recieved any of these spams with any reference to Sexhit or Intergal sites, I would appreciate if you would forward me a copy with all the relevant information and we will investigate it further.......


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Old 04-22-2003, 11:11 PM   #57
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Swiot. Answer my questions man. You spammed, you got everyones attention.

From your terms:

"To combat Fraud, Swoit implements a mathematical algorithm which discards abnormal user sessions which fall outside of two standard deviations either side of the mean for that site. As this check is performed against all sites, it will not adversely affect your overall percentage."

So basically, its a global skim. I dont mind a skim to combat fraud. But how do you calculate the two standard deviations on either side of the mean? If one surfer logs into my paysite and sucks every video I got and spends all night on it thats gonna be an outliar thats gonna get skimmed right? Meaning the 1 guy that sucked all my bandwidth I'm not gonna get paid on.

"Distribution to partners is calculated per site daily with the following formula:
(total minutes for site today from all valid sessions / total minutes for all sites today) * 40% of global daily rebill amount)"

So if 10 surfers suck all my bandwidth for 24 hours but 100 surfers suck a bigger sites bandwidth for the same 24 hours, Im gonna get the shit end of the stick and still eat the bandwidth?

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I got them in 9 Domains sandwiched between the shit for A Bigger Penis, My Credit Card Was Approved and My Free Password!
The best ones tho are, "You Can Stop Spam" ads...LOL
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I feel like i'm part of the "in" crowd now. I got me SWIOT spam too!! So.. where's my boobie prize?
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Old 04-22-2003, 11:33 PM   #64
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I feel like i'm part of the "in" crowd now. I got me SWIOT spam too!! So.. where's my boobie prize?
Don't you already have two boobies?
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Old 04-22-2003, 11:38 PM   #67
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wtf... i just got the spam in my personal (non-adult related) email account.
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feel free to jam their support form with as much random shit as possible.
I sent them a lovenote. I hope they respond.
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Simply sign-up as a Swoit partner and submit your paysite(s). Once they are approved, members of Swoit.com will be able to access your paysite(s) as part of their membership.

As payment, Swoit distributes an enormous 40% of the entire membership rebills for the month to partners. This is a significant amount of money -- in fact, our goal is to reach distributions in excess of $1M per month within 3 months of operating. So, by simply opening your paysite to 'Swoit', you make instant money for doing nothing!

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And as usual the content providers get fucked up the ass. This ain't that new, there have been people leasing their members areas on the sly forever.

No wonder u see all these content providers selling their libraries for pennies.

What you're asking people to do SWOIT is break every content license they own.
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Old 04-22-2003, 11:49 PM   #72
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" With an aggressive 3 month forecast of 100,000 members, that's over $1.35 million dollars PER MONTH we will be paying to our partners."

Is this the aggressive marketing?
Anybody with even a bit of business sense knows you're supposed to be conservative in your estimates - or include a sensitivity analysis. Even if you did do that, your estimates would probably fall under the "Extremely optimistic" forecast.
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Swiot. Answer my questions man. You spammed, you got everyones attention.

From your terms:

"To combat Fraud, Swoit implements a mathematical algorithm which discards abnormal user sessions which fall outside of two standard deviations either side of the mean for that site. As this check is performed against all sites, it will not adversely affect your overall percentage."

So basically, its a global skim. I dont mind a skim to combat fraud. But how do you calculate the two standard deviations on either side of the mean? If one surfer logs into my paysite and sucks every video I got and spends all night on it thats gonna be an outliar thats gonna get skimmed right? Meaning the 1 guy that sucked all my bandwidth I'm not gonna get paid on.

"Distribution to partners is calculated per site daily with the following formula:
(total minutes for site today from all valid sessions / total minutes for all sites today) * 40% of global daily rebill amount)"

So if 10 surfers suck all my bandwidth for 24 hours but 100 surfers suck a bigger sites bandwidth for the same 24 hours, Im gonna get the shit end of the stick and still eat the bandwidth?

I'm still waiting for an answer to this
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What's the URL to report him to spamcop? He spammed my kids email! FUCK HIM.
Didn't bother read all replies so someone might have posted this already.

Use: http://spamcop.com/
Enter the entire message and contact his host.

SpamCop.net will take his host down faster than you can say "blow me". But for now SpamCop.com should do the trick and take him down. If not, then contact their legal department at the .NET site. Spam Cop is like... "shoot first - ask later"
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Take a look at the WHOIS on these SWOIT sites, Hong Kong, Gibraltar - instills alot of confidence.

Anybody know the program 'SharedEarnings.com'? This is who is behind SWOIT.

Please answer the part about leased content, where in any agreement have u seen any language that says 'Please use our content in any manner you see fit, if you can make money renting out our plugin to other parties, knock yourself out, forget that part where we required you to tell us how many members your paysite has. Good luck!' ???
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Didn't bother read all replies so someone might have posted this already.

Use: http://spamcop.com/
Enter the entire message and contact his host.

SpamCop.net will take his host down faster than you can say "blow me". But for now SpamCop.com should do the trick and take him down. If not, then contact their legal department at the .NET site. Spam Cop is like... "shoot first - ask later"
I was spamcopped, it hurt. I didn't even send the mail, I was plugged in a real opt in newsletter. Some whiney bitch complained. Imagine how painful this shit's gunna be for SWOIT.
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Take a look at the WHOIS on these SWOIT sites, Hong Kong, Gibraltar - instills alot of confidence.

Anybody know the program 'SharedEarnings.com'? This is who is behind SWOIT.

Please answer the part about leased content, where in any agreement have u seen any language that says 'Please use our content in any manner you see fit, if you can make money renting out our plugin to other parties, knock yourself out, forget that part where we required you to tell us how many members your paysite has. Good luck!' ???
It's really the SharedEarnings dickheads? Damn.
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Old 04-23-2003, 12:19 AM   #78
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where did you get your email list??

Im very curious...
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Old 04-23-2003, 12:24 AM   #79
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But CJ from both those programs is working with you also. THats kind of odd.
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According to an Australian geek forum board.

This is what a "SWOIT" PC looks like!

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This is what a "SWOIT" PC looks like!

Hahahahahaha

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Like I said, CJ stopped working with Intergal and Sexhit last year... She has absolutely nothing to do with us.......
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THe thing that doesnt make sense about "The Swoit Model" is affiliates send traffic, and partners 'supply sites'...

But how is the money REALLY split up?

Is it % by # of sites the paysite operators submitted?

-- because that opens doors for lots of problems...like people mass/trash submitting. People submitting template splash page sites with lower quality carbon-copy members areas VS. someone with 1 kickass site thats worth 100 of those cloned sites. So the webmaster with 1 good site gets stiffed with a much smaller share than the guy that submitted the 100 far lower quality sites??

Is it a flat % or payout when someone joins a participating paysite? Whats to stop Swoit from saying an unusally large % of the surfers signed up for sites that are owned/operated by Swoit (directly or indirectly)


Or like someone said... Someone might have a really good, jam packed members area, but a weaker front end that doesnt pull initial sales. But once swoit surfers find this guy and his jam packed members area they suck him dry -- and he gets paid nothing??

It's sounds like a great idea... but I see problems.

Maybe "Swoit" can come along and publicly explain (since the site doesn't seem to)
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I'm just curious about the 10% maintenence. What is CCBills fee 13%? I assume the 40% split comes after fees but damn what will that leave if 1000 sites are involved. Blah.
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Swoit's been playing on his game boy too much me thinks.

hahahahah...I love it! And I didn't get my one time mailing, I'm sad
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Swoit's Terms and conditions.

1. Spam traffic is prohibited. "Opt in" Mailings must first obtain prior approval from Swoit.


So I guess it's ok if they spam!
Swoit, buch of fucken assholes!

Calling yourself Australian is a fucken insult to the Australian internet community.
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I've gotten 3 emails all to the same addy... my new addy that's only been inexistance for 3 months.

This makes me curious.... are they sending to more than one list and not checking for dupes?

Since not everyone has received 3 copies to each email, I assume that it's not a sending error.

Makes me wonder how I could get 3 copies all to the same address many hours apart though.
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I didn't even get one

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I didn't get spammed either... not even 1 email.

I get spammed by so much other porn shit and something of relevance like SWOIT, didn't even get to my inbox. Weird.

Personally, Swoit lookes absolutely fucking amazing. Obviously they have some problems to overcome, but that's like any new model introduced.

Thumbs up to the looks of this program!
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Simple question for us all....

Who owns Swoit?
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But CJ from both those programs is working with you also. THats kind of odd.

for fucks sake people, talk about creating a freakin drama

i'll break it down really slowly ....

* the company behind Swoit is the company responsible for the technical development of Intergal and SexHit Programs. as a contracted company, they wrote the affiliate system and handled all technical development until sometime late last year.

* i was contracted as the marketing director for SexHit from the launch in October/November 2000 until October 2002 when I resigned my position. Mandy was hired and took over the marketing of the program sometime in the following month.

* Zarvon & I have worked together, on and off, since 1998 as independent contractors to adult industry products. When you get a good tech and marketing team together you try to work together as often as possible whenever the opportunity arises. If any of you would like to hire either of our companies, we'd be happy to consider your monetary offer and we are confident that we can achieve the numbers we claim.

* I am not officially working for Swoit, nor do I have any ownership or partnership in the product, but I am assisting in the launch process and my paysites were the first to be added to the system as a beta test.

* There are no sexhit or intergal sites listed ANYWHERE on the participating sites page - way to research facts people! There are however several of my sites, several shared earnings sites (i agree, BARF!), and sites belonging to many of the webmasters who use the Zban tracking system written by zarvon - the affiliate program software which I also use to operate my sites. This is called 'NETWORKING' - its very good for business.

Starts to make sense when you know the facts huh ...

As for the bulk email, I agree with ya'all there ... I just found out where they bought the list from and I can see why so many of you got multiple copies. But, I only got 3, that I had to search for amongst the weight loss and penis enlargement spams.

Considering everyone in this thread has said nothing but negative comments about the bulk email, there have been a lot of signups in the last few hours and i see many names from this thread in the new account list ...

I'm not going to argue the spam issue, I hate spam of every kind and its a result of many arguments with my Aussie associates. I can't wait for another Paul Vixie to come back and fuck the spammers again. But that's a personal thing, not a business thing ;-)

Mutt, how could I guess that you would have a problem with this? You are one of the regular names that comes up in threads where the australians are being grouped together and trashed. I've got a few questions for you ...

1) Didn't you get in trouble for stealing someone else's photos and posting them in a fashion that led people to believe they were yours?

2) When you sell photo content, do you really ask them how many members they have? i've never heard of anyone else doing that ... as for feeds, if you use more bandwidth than the allocated amount for your member count, you pay more money. DUH. If you have 500 members and an extra 500 swoit members surfing your site, the feeds companies will probably charge you extra for the extra bandwidth. All of my deals with feeds companies are set up this way, they let me know when I have gone up a notch and invoice me accordingly. Its not rocket science.

3) Why is it that you think Swoit is bad for content companies and yet you are a regular at the biggest TGP webmaster board in the industry?

Always quick to judge, but glass houses and all that ...



The name "Swoit" is best described vocally, so we'll see if we can't arrange a radio show sometime soon for all of your questions.

Its a shame that so many good questions got lost amongst the bullshit in this thread, especially considering I KNOW that many of you will try the program. But, that's the way GFY has always worked, lots of big dick games and showing off and real business only happens on icq/email.

goBigtime, thank you for asking a valid question ... you'll find most of the explanation to your questions here ... 7th message down the page. I don't want to make this post any longer than it is already ;-)

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http://www.swoit.com/ are they down or something?
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Are they associated with Porno Junkies, http://www.pornojunkies.com/? I received this spam (?) to an email address that only Porno Junkies knows about. So PJ is giving out my email or they are associated with them.
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I haven't received any SWOIT (how do pronounce that ?) spams, so maybe I didn't signup with the right sponsor. Maybe they have the Intergal/Sexhit list ?
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I haven't received any SWOIT (how do pronounce that ?) spams, so maybe I didn't signup with the right sponsor. Maybe they have the Intergal/Sexhit list ?
I shouldn't be on their lists either, but I still got the spam
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I don't give a shit about all the explaining. Fact is I and MANY other people got spam again again again but this time to an address not public on any site (for some of us). And I really hate spam. Whenever I can do something about it I do it. This time I let spam cop decide where to go from here.

If they take Swoit down you probaly know why.
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DaLord, thanks for the threats.

I hope the time you spent complaining didn't eat into your beavis and butthead time

you can give me attitude all you like but if anyone could actually stop adult bulk email, why do so many companies still do it? I get so much fake kp spam and rape and violence spam to addresses that have belonged to my 17 year old sister and its FUCKED.

If you find a secret way to ensure someone gets shut down never to be turned on again (or even causing a dent in their income), please share ... because believe me, i hate spam more than you do, i'm just not ignorant enough to believe that spamcop is going to stop it from happening. I wish I had your confidence in the system, but I don't - look over your shoulder, someone somewhere just sold another list with your email address on it.

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Hi CJ ;]

I signed up
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spammers leave us alone!

btw, I've installed anty spam proggy
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