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Choker · 04-18-2003, 01:42 PM

The following sites have 72 hours to remove TTT script from their sites. If you do not post here that you have complied, I will put all my resources into shutting you down permamently. I will start with your host, then go to your hosts upstream providers, then I will go to each and everyone of your sponsors. If this all fails to shut you down, then I will resort to other means. I am not fucking around here. These sites are violating copyrights. You have 72 hours to comply.

http://indianjuicy.com Send skimming to http://www.tienerkut.nl
http://indiansluts.nl/ Send skimming to http://www.tienerkut.nl
http://sexymeisjes.nl/ Send skimming to http://www.tienerkut.nl
http://mommy.pervertedtaboo.com/ Removed skimming
http://www.sexkabouter.com/ Removed skimming
http://sex18.freepornbest.com/ Removed checking and possibly also skimming
http://maturepost.freetaboohost.com/ Russian TTT copy
http://www.premiersexpics.com/ Modified TTT.

PS if you are above and think you are hosted where you can't be touched, think again.

p00p · 04-18-2003, 01:43 PM

Fuck! BUSTED!

Juicy D. Links · 04-18-2003, 01:44 PM

yeeeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Juicy D. Links · 04-18-2003, 01:45 PM

Ok I am starting my own list:

Guidos Of GFY

Juicylinks

Honorary Guidos

Lil2rich4u2/stashi/spacedog/sasush
Choker

Foe membership please email me or ICQ me.

Fletch XXX · 04-18-2003, 01:47 PM

i thought this was gonna be another drinking thread.

shoot.

JesusReseller · 04-18-2003, 01:48 PM

all heroes!

GoGoBar · 04-18-2003, 01:48 PM

I used to drive a camaro, can I be a guido too!

Guido4Life

Choker · 04-18-2003, 01:50 PM

2619 TGPs are now using TTT, about 20 have changed the script. There will be more names on this list when I get a chance to verify the others. I am not playing around on this. With the promos I run on this script I actually loose money every month, even with the 1% skim it takes. I'll be damned if I am going to let guys steal from me.

Juicy D. Links · 04-18-2003, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GoGoBar
I used to drive a camaro, can I be a guido too!

Guido4Life

You can be a GIT Guido In Training

Guidos Of GFY

Juicylinks

Honorary Guidos

Lil2rich4u2/stashi/spacedog/sasush
Choker

GIT Guidos In Training

Go Go Jizz

Foe membership please email me or ICQ me.

DarkJedi · 04-18-2003, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker
PS if you are above and think you are hosted where you can't be touched, think again.

Vox · 04-18-2003, 01:51 PM

Hey, I want to be an honorary Guido.
I owned a candy apple red trans am.

And right now I'm wearing addidas sweat pants and top.

That should qualify me.

IntenseCash · 04-18-2003, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p
Fuck! BUSTED!

nanner, nanner, nanner!

Juicy D. Links · 04-18-2003, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vox
Hey, I want to be an honorary Guido.
I owned a candy apple red trans am.

And right now I'm wearing addidas sweat pants and top.

That should qualify me.

You can be A GIT till you prove your worthiness

Guidos Of GFY

Juicylinks

Honorary Guidos

Lil2rich4u2/stashi/spacedog/sasush
Choker

GIT Guidos In Training

Go Go Jizz
Vox

421Fill · 04-18-2003, 01:55 PM

Why even warn them? Just send the cease and desist e-mails, then take the next steps if needed.

twistyneck · 04-18-2003, 02:00 PM

I refuse to comply. Ban me! Oh, wait a minute... I don't do TGP. Sorry, wrong thread.

gornyhuy · 04-18-2003, 02:01 PM

Choker,
I know most users are honest, but why not encode and/or obfuscate that php code?

There are a bunch of cheap solutions out there.

mule · 04-18-2003, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by turbo
Why even warn them? Just send the cease and desist e-mails, then take the next steps if needed.

Nah, it's more fun this way...I'm already heating the oil for my popcorn

Choker · 04-18-2003, 02:16 PM

Here's more, you should consider yourself served also:

http://www.dutchcelebrity.com/ Sends skimming to http://www.tienerkut.nl
http://www.indianorgy.net/ Sends skimming to http://www.tienerkut.nl
http://incestlove1.taboo-porn.com/ Removed skimming
http://incestday.incest-files.com/ Removed skimming

Quote:

I know most users are honest, but why not encode and/or obfuscate that php code?

None of which do not make installing the script easy. Users install this script themselves.

Fletch XXX · 04-18-2003, 02:18 PM

eh fuck it, this is a good enough drinking thread.

cheers.

Fletch XXX · 04-18-2003, 02:19 PM

eh fuck it, this is a good enough drinking thread. ;)

cheers.

deniska · 04-18-2003, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GoGoBar
I used to drive a camaro, can I be a guido too!

Guido4Life

http://www.njguido.com/

Choker · 04-18-2003, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mule

Nah, it's more fun this way...I'm already heating the oil for my popcorn

Yep, especially if and when "the other means" has to be implemented. Some of my Russian friends will be enjoying some good ole Choker cash in a few days.

mule · 04-18-2003, 02:26 PM

A few Dutch sites in that list as well...I'm always amazed at the amount of cheaters on Holland

Fletch XXX · 04-18-2003, 02:28 PM

that posted twice because of a 'SUBMIT error,' it said it didnt go through, i resent it, sorry folks.

Donnie Gangsta · 04-18-2003, 02:30 PM

choker

i bet someone could shut you down

04-18-2003, 02:33 PM

go get'em choker!

04-18-2003, 02:47 PM

http://rapeisland.com/

great site running your script, too

mule · 04-18-2003, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox
http://rapeisland.com/

great site running your script, too

whoa, nasty

Excretor · 04-18-2003, 02:56 PM

I can't understand people using stolen trade scripts... There are soooo many free scripts for this...

Kill these lamers...

Choker · 04-18-2003, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Excretor
I can't understand people using stolen trade scripts... There are soooo many free scripts for this...

Kill these lamers...

TTT is a free script that takes 1% as payment for it's use and for use of the findtrades blacklist system. I give users a hell of a lot more than just the script itself in return for the measly 1% of the clicks I take. I spend at least $800 a month just on maintaining the blacklist database. To steal the 1% from me is nothing short of a slap to my face. These sites are small and insignificant in the big picture, but the point is they are thieves and I will expose them as such.

Pete · 04-18-2003, 03:08 PM

Those guys are bad!

NastyJack · 04-18-2003, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck
I refuse to comply. Ban me! Oh, wait a minute... I don't do TGP. Sorry, wrong thread.

In other words - who give a flying fuck!!!

Gerwin · 04-18-2003, 04:18 PM

i've uploaded the original TTT script to www.sexkabouter.com, there were a few security bugs in the script and a few .nl webmasters on a dutch webmaster board have edited the script to fix that problem, therefore i was using a edited ttt-out.php that was spread.

Pornwolf · 04-18-2003, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by deniska

http://www.njguido.com/

LOL! The girls look like the guys with wigs!

These pics are one of the reasons why I never make it past Hoboken to party!

MrLeone · 04-18-2003, 04:34 PM

Quote:

The following sites have 72 hours to remove TTT script from their sites. If you do not post here that you have complied

Damn.. You sounds just like Mr Bush.

MrLeone

gothweb · 04-18-2003, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
Ok I am starting my own list:

Guidos Of GFY

Juicylinks

Honorary Guidos

Lil2rich4u2/stashi/spacedog/sasush
Choker

Foe membership please email me or ICQ me.

I think I am a little bit EYE-talian. And Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead is one of my favourite movies because of Andy Garcia. Can I be an honorary guido?

foreverjason · 04-18-2003, 04:34 PM

Quote:

i thought this was gonna be another drinking thread.

shoot.

so did I

Choker · 04-18-2003, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gerwin
i've uploaded the original TTT script to www.sexkabouter.com, there were a few security bugs in the script and a few .nl webmasters on a dutch webmaster board have edited the script to fix that problem, therefore i was using a edited ttt-out.php that was spread.

Sir what gives any .nl webmaster the right to edit this script? Are .nl webmasters above the law or something? I must be missing something here. When you download this script it clearly says that you are not allowed to edit this script in any way, and even in the zip it says this again. The conditions for anyone using this script is that you do not modfy it in any shape. If you are using a copy that has been modified as far I am concerned you are the one that modified it, and I am sure that the host and the hosts upstream provider will agree with me on this. I do appreciate your honesty and the fact that you are coming forward with this, but this is no excuse.

Fletch XXX · 04-18-2003, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by foreverjason

so did I

its as good as any other i suppose.

goBigtime · 04-18-2003, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker

Sir what gives any .nl webmaster the right to edit this script? Are .nl webmasters above the law or something? I must be missing something here. When you download this script it clearly says that you are not allowed to edit this script in any way, and even in the zip it says this again. The conditions for anyone using this script is that you do not modfy it in any shape. If you are using a copy that has been modified as far I am concerned you are the one that modified it, and I am sure that the host and the hosts upstream provider will agree with me on this. I do appreciate your honesty and the fact that you are coming forward with this, but this is no excuse.

Cool... now get his edit copy and see wtf those security fixes were that he mentioned

KrazieSweets · 04-18-2003, 06:32 PM

o shit layin the smack down

Choker · 04-18-2003, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Cool... now get his edit copy and see wtf those security fixes were that he mentioned

LOL, yep see this is the shit I am talking about right here. If there were any security fixes needed we would implement them asap. But it seems that everyone who knows a little code thinks they can improve everybody elses script. If they are so good why can't they write thier own script? Yeah doesn't make sense does it? Seems like some people cheat and steal just for the sake of cheating and stealing.

Hansm · 04-18-2003, 07:45 PM

Choker you need to listen about this.

i did read the thread on the dutch forum and its a security bug, people are faking the REQUEST METHOD to HEAD or PUT, you need to check it in ttt-out.php and ttt-in.php

only GET is allowed, what i readed but that are the only things what alot of people in the netherlands changed and thats fair or do you want to fuckup all the sites, not mine anotherwise you can get away with your script simple, and if you want that people not change the code, go buy zend encoder, you are the php programmer or dont you know zend encoded, its encrypt php scripts and unpossible to change it, only 2500$ one time, so if you spend 800$ you can spend 2500$ too onetime.

the skimming is not fair, if people remove that, then they are really bad guys.

WebDork · 04-18-2003, 07:53 PM

I dont use these traffic churning scripts but personally I would never buy into a script that didnt allow me to modify it if I thought (knew) I could improve upon it or customise it for my purposes.

As a coder I would have made the condition that if people wanted to modify it they could, but the 1% skim (Fuck it - Id set it higher

) had to be unmodified and the copyright link back to your site remain.

The most successful scripts are now developed in an open community environment where multiple people can add, bug fixes, additional functionality and plugins. Your program use terms would reflect that all 3rd party code can be integrated into the script without renumeration... As a "smart" developer you control the direction of the scripts development and simply choose which additions you want to use and add it to the next version you release.

You will *NEVER* stop people trying to modify your script.

Hansm · 04-18-2003, 07:58 PM

im not talking about the skiming thats fair.

but chokor alot of dutch webmasters are losing 2500 hits with your script, is this normal, are you happy when your sites are losing this amount of hits, answer that question.

and we are talking about sites with 10000 visits per day only, thats 1/4 of the traffic.

so if you arnt delivering new patches to your script, what must a adultwebmaster do, waiting till there site gets 100 visits a day, no, if its was me, then i would do the same and send you a email. and dont tell you didt get a email i know for sure you did get emails about this problem, because more then 25 webmasters are having this problem.

WebDork · 04-18-2003, 07:59 PM

And fuck Zend encoder... Use this http://www.sourceguardian.com/ for $150 or $250US one off fee.

It will do better job of protecting your code and your users dont need anything installed at their end.

Just move all your configuration crap to an external .inc and let users change whatever they like in that file.

queer · 04-18-2003, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hansm
Choker you need to listen about this.

i did read the thread on the dutch forum and its a security bug, people are faking the REQUEST METHOD to HEAD or PUT, you need to check it in ttt-out.php and ttt-in.php

only GET is allowed, what i readed but that are the only things what alot of people in the netherlands changed and thats fair or do you want to fuckup all the sites, not mine anotherwise you can get away with your script simple, and if you want that people not change the code, go buy zend encoder, you are the php programmer or dont you know zend encoded, its encrypt php scripts and unpossible to change it, only 2500$ one time, so if you spend 800$ you can spend 2500$ too onetime.

the skimming is not fair, if people remove that, then they are really bad guys.

hahahaha. perhaps the guy can't afford 2500$ thats much!

Choker · 04-18-2003, 08:12 PM

Quote:

I dont use these traffic churning scripts but personally I would never buy into a script that didnt allow me to modify it if I thought (knew) I could improve upon it or customise it for my purposes.

Then you would never buy a trading script. No trading scripts allow you to modify them. It's in the license agreement.

Hansm · 04-18-2003, 08:13 PM

Chocker can afford 2500$ i know that for sure.

and then you have a lifetime updates anotherwise take the yearly version for 999$

www.zend.com

its the only solution to protect your scripts good

http://www.sourceguardian.com is only ascii protection, so it sucks, zend encoder is binary.

Juicy D. Links · 04-18-2003, 08:14 PM

G4 LIFE

04-18-2003, 01:42 PM	#1
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	You DO NOT want to be on this list The following sites have 72 hours to remove TTT script from their sites. If you do not post here that you have complied, I will put all my resources into shutting you down permamently. I will start with your host, then go to your hosts upstream providers, then I will go to each and everyone of your sponsors. If this all fails to shut you down, then I will resort to other means. I am not fucking around here. These sites are violating copyrights. You have 72 hours to comply. http://indianjuicy.com Send skimming to http://www.tienerkut.nl http://indiansluts.nl/ Send skimming to http://www.tienerkut.nl http://sexymeisjes.nl/ Send skimming to http://www.tienerkut.nl http://mommy.pervertedtaboo.com/ Removed skimming http://www.sexkabouter.com/ Removed skimming http://sex18.freepornbest.com/ Removed checking and possibly also skimming http://maturepost.freetaboohost.com/ Russian TTT copy http://www.premiersexpics.com/ Modified TTT. PS if you are above and think you are hosted where you can't be touched, think again. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

04-18-2003, 01:43 PM	#2
p00p Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: CanaDUH Posts: 5,125	Fuck! BUSTED! __________________ ICQ: 316365783 <a href="http://www.hostultra.com/~p00p" target="_blank">TEST</a>

04-18-2003, 01:47 PM	#5
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04-18-2003, 01:48 PM	#6
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04-18-2003, 01:50 PM	#8
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	2619 TGPs are now using TTT, about 20 have changed the script. There will be more names on this list when I get a chance to verify the others. I am not playing around on this. With the promos I run on this script I actually loose money every month, even with the 1% skim it takes. I'll be damned if I am going to let guys steal from me. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

04-18-2003, 01:44 PM	#3
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	yeeeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

04-18-2003, 01:45 PM	#4
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Ok I am starting my own list: Guidos Of GFY Juicylinks Honorary Guidos Lil2rich4u2/stashi/spacedog/sasush Choker Foe membership please email me or ICQ me.

04-18-2003, 01:48 PM	#7
GoGoBar Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 1,439	I used to drive a camaro, can I be a guido too! Guido4Life

04-18-2003, 01:51 PM	#11
Vox Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 2,710	Hey, I want to be an honorary Guido. I owned a candy apple red trans am. And right now I'm wearing addidas sweat pants and top. That should qualify me. __________________ Social profile assassination for hire

04-18-2003, 01:55 PM	#14
421Fill Super Mario Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Swenson's Avatar Posts: 19,708	Why even warn them? Just send the cease and desist e-mails, then take the next steps if needed. __________________ RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!!!

04-18-2003, 02:00 PM	#15
twistyneck So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hanging by the neck until dead. Posts: 4,660	I refuse to comply. Ban me! Oh, wait a minute... I don't do TGP. Sorry, wrong thread.

04-18-2003, 02:01 PM	#16
gornyhuy Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy Posts: 18,041	Choker, I know most users are honest, but why not encode and/or obfuscate that php code? There are a bunch of cheap solutions out there. __________________ icq:159548293

04-18-2003, 02:18 PM	#19
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	eh fuck it, this is a good enough drinking thread. cheers. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

04-18-2003, 02:19 PM	#20
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	eh fuck it, this is a good enough drinking thread. ;) cheers. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

04-18-2003, 02:26 PM	#23
mule Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: hamsterdam Posts: 6,085	A few Dutch sites in that list as well...I'm always amazed at the amount of cheaters on Holland __________________ Converting like a mofo

04-18-2003, 02:28 PM	#24
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	that posted twice because of a 'SUBMIT error,' it said it didnt go through, i resent it, sorry folks. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

04-18-2003, 02:30 PM	#25
Donnie Gangsta Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,104	choker i bet someone could shut you down

04-18-2003, 02:33 PM	#26
buddyjuf Guest Posts: n/a	go get'em choker!

04-18-2003, 02:47 PM	#27
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	http://rapeisland.com/ great site running your script, too

04-18-2003, 02:56 PM	#29
Excretor Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,123	I can't understand people using stolen trade scripts... There are soooo many free scripts for this... Kill these lamers... __________________ GET YOUR MONEY, BEST HANDJOB SITE

04-18-2003, 03:08 PM	#31
Pete Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Posts: 6,617	Those guys are bad! __________________ Evoke Electronics

04-18-2003, 04:18 PM	#33
Gerwin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 16	i've uploaded the original TTT script to www.sexkabouter.com, there were a few security bugs in the script and a few .nl webmasters on a dutch webmaster board have edited the script to fix that problem, therefore i was using a edited ttt-out.php that was spread.

04-18-2003, 06:32 PM	#41
KrazieSweets So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,060	o shit layin the smack down

04-18-2003, 07:45 PM	#43
Hansm Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 871	Choker you need to listen about this. i did read the thread on the dutch forum and its a security bug, people are faking the REQUEST METHOD to HEAD or PUT, you need to check it in ttt-out.php and ttt-in.php only GET is allowed, what i readed but that are the only things what alot of people in the netherlands changed and thats fair or do you want to fuckup all the sites, not mine anotherwise you can get away with your script simple, and if you want that people not change the code, go buy zend encoder, you are the php programmer or dont you know zend encoded, its encrypt php scripts and unpossible to change it, only 2500$ one time, so if you spend 800$ you can spend 2500$ too onetime. the skimming is not fair, if people remove that, then they are really bad guys.

04-18-2003, 07:53 PM	#44
WebDork Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 402	I dont use these traffic churning scripts but personally I would never buy into a script that didnt allow me to modify it if I thought (knew) I could improve upon it or customise it for my purposes. As a coder I would have made the condition that if people wanted to modify it they could, but the 1% skim (Fuck it - Id set it higher ) had to be unmodified and the copyright link back to your site remain. The most successful scripts are now developed in an open community environment where multiple people can add, bug fixes, additional functionality and plugins. Your program use terms would reflect that all 3rd party code can be integrated into the script without renumeration... As a "smart" developer you control the direction of the scripts development and simply choose which additions you want to use and add it to the next version you release. You will NEVER stop people trying to modify your script. __________________ Video Ipod Porn Site with Affiliate Program. http://www.podies.com Free 1:1 Adult Webmaster Banner Exchange.

04-18-2003, 07:58 PM	#45
Hansm Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 871	im not talking about the skiming thats fair. but chokor alot of dutch webmasters are losing 2500 hits with your script, is this normal, are you happy when your sites are losing this amount of hits, answer that question. and we are talking about sites with 10000 visits per day only, thats 1/4 of the traffic. so if you arnt delivering new patches to your script, what must a adultwebmaster do, waiting till there site gets 100 visits a day, no, if its was me, then i would do the same and send you a email. and dont tell you didt get a email i know for sure you did get emails about this problem, because more then 25 webmasters are having this problem.

04-18-2003, 07:59 PM	#46
WebDork Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 402	And fuck Zend encoder... Use this http://www.sourceguardian.com/ for $150 or $250US one off fee. It will do better job of protecting your code and your users dont need anything installed at their end. Just move all your configuration crap to an external .inc and let users change whatever they like in that file. __________________ Video Ipod Porn Site with Affiliate Program. http://www.podies.com Free 1:1 Adult Webmaster Banner Exchange.

04-18-2003, 08:13 PM	#49
Hansm Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 871	Chocker can afford 2500$ i know that for sure. and then you have a lifetime updates anotherwise take the yearly version for 999$ www.zend.com its the only solution to protect your scripts good http://www.sourceguardian.com is only ascii protection, so it sucks, zend encoder is binary.

04-18-2003, 08:14 PM	#50
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	G4 LIFE