Have iBill gone mad? - GoFuckYourself.com

BritishTwinks · 04-15-2003, 01:54 PM

I just received an e-mail from them saying they are putting our rate up by 0.35% (0.19% for you guys in the US) and introducing chargeback fees and refund fees.

Their scale for new business in Europe now reads:

$0 - $9,999 --> 17.35%
$10,000 - $24,999 --> 16.35%
$25,000 - $49,999 --> 15.35%
$50,000 and above --> 14.35%

Time to get a new back up processor I think.

KingK7 · 04-15-2003, 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by CashAddict

Time to get a new back up processor I think.

That, or go with another entirely.

BritishTwinks · 04-15-2003, 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by KingK7

That, or go with another entirely.

What u mean?

ZoiNk · 04-15-2003, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by CashAddict

What u mean?

They mean, drop ibill alltogether. There are a lot of processors out there. Let ibill keep doing your rebills, have someone else as primary and another as secondary to do the new sales. Need someone that processes outside the US, www.acpay.com is one that comes to mind, there are a 1/2 dozen more. Do searches for what ppl recommend.
ZoiNk

BritishTwinks · 04-15-2003, 02:37 PM

Oh, we are dropping them completely. They're currently our secondary processor and I'm looking for a new secondary processor to replace them.

(ACPay is based in London too, so we would have to pay local taxes if we used them - which rules that out... they seem pretty good apart from that though)

Shoplifter · 04-15-2003, 02:51 PM

ACPay looks very nice and we have been testing them for some time.

However their affiliate system is not good. I would also say they are a tiny bit less likely to get the rebill as compared to Ibill.

Even so they seem the only choice on my horizon to replace Ibill if that should be required.

DrewKole · 04-15-2003, 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by Shoplifter
ACPay looks very nice and we have been testing them for some time.

However their affiliate system is not good. I would also say they are a tiny bit less likely to get the rebill as compared to Ibill.

Even so they seem the only choice on my horizon to replace Ibill if that should be required.

Everyone keeps saying that...

Why are they less likely to get the rebill? Cuz its so fuckin easy to cancel or what?

Alvaro · 04-15-2003, 03:17 PM

acpay rocks indeed

Shoplifter · 04-15-2003, 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by DrewKole

Everyone keeps saying that...

Why are they less likely to get the rebill? Cuz its so fuckin easy to cancel or what?

I wish I knew why. I can only say what I see from my own stats.

Va2k · 04-15-2003, 03:23 PM

acpay is kick ass but there famous words are its in the works the webmasters referal is ok but it sucks not seeing how many click throughs their support is great *shrugs*

Shoplifter · 04-15-2003, 03:31 PM

Here is a description of what is wrong in my case with AC Pays affiliate tracking.

You have to build a very very linear and standard tour to transmit the affiliate variable to the join page. The variable has to be passed through EVERY link.

If you have any protected content, and the surfer is directed to a join page by a 401 error handler the variable is lost. Actually if anyone knows how to transmit the shtml variable through an apache error handler I would be grateful...But I don't think it is possible.

Elephant_Gut · 04-15-2003, 05:16 PM

Try Glo-bill. They rock in every possible way and I have moved my sites from iBill to Glo-bill a few months back and have been happy since.

Kohun · 04-15-2003, 05:50 PM

As for me ACPay much better in comparison with Globill. I have been using ACPay for 5 months.

Mark

GotGauge · 04-15-2003, 06:35 PM

Chargeback Fees

The following fees will apply to all clients of iBill:

A $15.00 flat fee for all credit card chargeback transactions presented against your account for all credit card types (Visa, Master Card, American Express, Discover and JCB). The excess chargeback fee of 2.5% of total credit card sale transaction volume threshold will no longer apply.

SomeCreep · 04-15-2003, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by GotGauge
Chargeback Fees

The following fees will apply to all clients of iBill:

A $15.00 flat fee for all credit card chargeback transactions presented against your account for all credit card types (Visa, Master Card, American Express, Discover and JCB). The excess chargeback fee of 2.5% of total credit card sale transaction volume threshold will no longer apply.

if thats true, ibill sucks. How do they expect to stay competitive with other IPSPs pulling bullshit like that.

EscortBiz · 04-15-2003, 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by SomeCreep

if thats true, ibill sucks. How do they expect to stay competitive with other IPSPs pulling bullshit like that.

makes ya wonder if other isps are about to annonce somethin

Sputter · 04-15-2003, 11:26 PM

Ibill is still in business?

BritishTwinks · 04-16-2003, 12:32 AM

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Originally posted by Sputter
Ibill is still in business?

LOL

andi_germany · 04-16-2003, 01:41 AM

Well most ISP's already have a chargeback fee besides the ones in the US. I guess it was all about the competition and the ISP's now see that this was bad for there money.

04-15-2003, 01:54 PM	#1
BritishTwinks Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: UK Posts: 357	Have iBill gone mad? I just received an e-mail from them saying they are putting our rate up by 0.35% (0.19% for you guys in the US) and introducing chargeback fees and refund fees. Their scale for new business in Europe now reads: $0 - $9,999 --> 17.35% $10,000 - $24,999 --> 16.35% $25,000 - $49,999 --> 15.35% $50,000 and above --> 14.35% Time to get a new back up processor I think. __________________ British Twinks - Earn 60% commissions promoting this original site Over 100,000 quality photos and videos • High conversions and retention Weekly payments via CCBill

04-15-2003, 02:37 PM	#5
BritishTwinks Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: UK Posts: 357	Oh, we are dropping them completely. They're currently our secondary processor and I'm looking for a new secondary processor to replace them. (ACPay is based in London too, so we would have to pay local taxes if we used them - which rules that out... they seem pretty good apart from that though) __________________ British Twinks - Earn 60% commissions promoting this original site Over 100,000 quality photos and videos • High conversions and retention Weekly payments via CCBill

04-15-2003, 03:23 PM	#10
Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	acpay is kick ass but there famous words are its in the works the webmasters referal is ok but it sucks not seeing how many click throughs their support is great shrugs __________________

04-15-2003, 05:16 PM	#12
Elephant_Gut Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 70	Try Glo-bill. They rock in every possible way and I have moved my sites from iBill to Glo-bill a few months back and have been happy since. __________________ Elephant Gut Yes I got a big Gut Now Screw off!

04-15-2003, 05:50 PM	#13
Kohun Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 274	As for me ACPay much better in comparison with Globill. I have been using ACPay for 5 months. Mark __________________ Click here to make money www.PEAKMONEY.com ICQ # 172316026

04-15-2003, 02:51 PM	#6
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,736	ACPay looks very nice and we have been testing them for some time. However their affiliate system is not good. I would also say they are a tiny bit less likely to get the rebill as compared to Ibill. Even so they seem the only choice on my horizon to replace Ibill if that should be required.

04-15-2003, 03:17 PM	#8
Alvaro Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 695	acpay rocks indeed

04-15-2003, 03:31 PM	#11
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,736	Here is a description of what is wrong in my case with AC Pays affiliate tracking. You have to build a very very linear and standard tour to transmit the affiliate variable to the join page. The variable has to be passed through EVERY link. If you have any protected content, and the surfer is directed to a join page by a 401 error handler the variable is lost. Actually if anyone knows how to transmit the shtml variable through an apache error handler I would be grateful...But I don't think it is possible.

04-15-2003, 06:35 PM	#14
GotGauge Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: USA Posts: 3,072	Chargeback Fees The following fees will apply to all clients of iBill: A $15.00 flat fee for all credit card chargeback transactions presented against your account for all credit card types (Visa, Master Card, American Express, Discover and JCB). The excess chargeback fee of 2.5% of total credit card sale transaction volume threshold will no longer apply. __________________ ICQ 22264474 [email protected]

04-15-2003, 11:26 PM	#17
Sputter Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 61	Ibill is still in business?

04-16-2003, 01:41 AM	#19
andi_germany Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 768	Well most ISP's already have a chargeback fee besides the ones in the US. I guess it was all about the competition and the ISP's now see that this was bad for there money.