Republican Representative wants to jail filetraders.... - GoFuckYourself.com

MrPopup · 04-10-2003, 09:51 AM

Another example of the writing being clearly written on the wall.

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College students, listen up: Don't mess with Texas.

Texas Rep. John Carter, that is.

"What these kids don't realize is that every time they pull up music and movies and make a copy, they are committing a felony under the United States code," Carter said in an interview. "If you were to prosecute someone and give them three years, I think this would act as a deterrent."

But some university officials say they have stepped up efforts to stop piracy on their networks, and packing kids off to prison won't solve the problem.

"I can't see turning millions of college students into criminals," said Graham Spanier, president of Pennsylvania State University. "We'd have to build a lot of new prisons to hold the lawbreakers engaged in piracy of copyrighted materials."

Carter said making an example of a few college students could go a long way toward bringing home the message that sharing and duplicating copyrighted materials is wrong.

"Sometimes it takes the shock value of someone actually being punished," Carter said. "In this particular instance it might also send a message to these kids that are operating on these networks that, 'Hey, I better stop.'"

Students would learn quickly that copying even one album is not worth the potential punishment, he said.

"That information sent out to kids would be a real eye opener," he said. "I think you would have a 50 percent falloff, at least, of these people (who are pirating files).

"I'm not out to get the kids, I'm out to get their attention."

Carter, now in his first term in the House, served as a state district judge for 20 years in Williamson County, known as the Lone Star State's toughest county for criminals. If rampant file sharing was going on back home, he said, people would likely be prosecuted.

"A felony conviction is a terrible thing to have on your record," Carter said. Among other things, he said, a person would not be able to become an officer in the U.S. military if convicted of a felony.

A statement from the Recording Industry Association of America seems to back Carter's point of view.

"We support criminal prosecution of those who break the law and believe that effective deterrence is a necessary part of combating piracy," an RIAA spokeswoman wrote in an e-mail.

In October, the RIAA sent a letter to 2,300 colleges and universities urging them to "impose effective remedies against violators." In response, colleges have "dramatically" stepped up their responses to piracy problems, according to Sheldon Steinbach, general counsel for the American Council on Education.

"Although one would like to have a simple solution to the problem of misuse of university bandwidth, the congressman's proposed solution does not go to the core elements of the issue," Steinbach said of Carter's push to prosecute college file traders. "There is no simple answer."

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foe · 04-10-2003, 09:52 AM

assholes

angeleyes · 04-10-2003, 09:56 AM

Is it just me, or does it seem like our rights in general are slowly being chipped away at.

Gary · 04-10-2003, 09:58 AM

I imagine at some point the US will have to set aside an entire state just for prisons.

Libertine · 04-10-2003, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by angeleyes
Is it just me, or does it seem like our rights in general are slowly being chipped away at.

I don't think the right to illegally distribute copyrighted materials is in the constitution...

angeleyes · 04-10-2003, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld

I don't think the right to illegally distribute copyrighted materials is in the constitution...

I said "in general" referring to all laws trying to be passed right now regardless if they govern the issue at hand in this thread, to the right to bear arms, to religion in school (the pledge of allegiance, smoking in public, to defend yourself in your own home (the intruder that broke into a family home, hurt himself--sued the family and won)...the govt. can now tap phones and look at your email without a warrant due to the passing of the homeland security act", etc. and I could go on forever with this list.

angeleyes · 04-10-2003, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary
I imagine at some point the US will have to set aside an entire state just for prisons.

It would seem that way. lol

DjSap · 04-10-2003, 10:15 AM

It would be a step in the right direction, I myself use kazaa but if it would be risky then of course I would stop. Just throw some kinds in jail so that we all can make more money.

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Libertine · 04-10-2003, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by angeleyes

I said "in general" referring to all laws trying to be passed right now regardless if they govern the issue at hand in this thread, to the right to bear arms, to religion in school (the pledge of allegiance, smoking in public, to defend yourself in your own home (the intruder that broke into a family home, hurt himself--sued the family and won)...the govt. can now tap phones and look at your email without a warrant due to the passing of the homeland security act", etc. and I could go on forever with this list.

In my opinion this thread has very little to do with that subject.

FATPad · 04-10-2003, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by angeleyes
Is it just me, or does it seem like our rights in general are slowly being chipped away at.

Losing the right to steal copyrighted material made you think your real rights are being eroded?

ADL Colin · 04-10-2003, 10:21 AM

Damn, it's happened. I must be getting old. A buncha 18 year olds think today they have a legal right to download copyrighted material and cry and don't understand why they can't.

I still buy my CD's. Old school.

Every law is an abridgement of freedom to someone. I don't like wearing my seatbelt. Fucking lawmakers!

ADL Colin · 04-10-2003, 10:22 AM

I'm feeling late to the punch.

p00p · 04-10-2003, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by angeleyes

It would seem that way. lol

Move to Canada, hun, before they take every right away from you, and you are monitored 24/7. Our gov't isn't quite sure what the internet or computers are yet. I have an extra room for you, and can buy you a Chevy Cavalier to drive. I will build you a computer, and you can steal mp3's until those gorgeous eyes pop out.

MrPopup · 04-10-2003, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin
I still buy my CD's.

Blue light sale on Tiffany in Aisle 7 Grampa.

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MrPopup Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: on the internet Posts: 3,783	Republican Representative wants to jail filetraders.... Another example of the writing being clearly written on the wall. ****************************************** College students, listen up: Don't mess with Texas. Texas Rep. John Carter, that is. "What these kids don't realize is that every time they pull up music and movies and make a copy, they are committing a felony under the United States code," Carter said in an interview. "If you were to prosecute someone and give them three years, I think this would act as a deterrent." But some university officials say they have stepped up efforts to stop piracy on their networks, and packing kids off to prison won't solve the problem. "I can't see turning millions of college students into criminals," said Graham Spanier, president of Pennsylvania State University. "We'd have to build a lot of new prisons to hold the lawbreakers engaged in piracy of copyrighted materials." Carter said making an example of a few college students could go a long way toward bringing home the message that sharing and duplicating copyrighted materials is wrong. "Sometimes it takes the shock value of someone actually being punished," Carter said. "In this particular instance it might also send a message to these kids that are operating on these networks that, 'Hey, I better stop.'" Students would learn quickly that copying even one album is not worth the potential punishment, he said. "That information sent out to kids would be a real eye opener," he said. "I think you would have a 50 percent falloff, at least, of these people (who are pirating files). "I'm not out to get the kids, I'm out to get their attention." Carter, now in his first term in the House, served as a state district judge for 20 years in Williamson County, known as the Lone Star State's toughest county for criminals. If rampant file sharing was going on back home, he said, people would likely be prosecuted. "A felony conviction is a terrible thing to have on your record," Carter said. Among other things, he said, a person would not be able to become an officer in the U.S. military if convicted of a felony. A statement from the Recording Industry Association of America seems to back Carter's point of view. "We support criminal prosecution of those who break the law and believe that effective deterrence is a necessary part of combating piracy," an RIAA spokeswoman wrote in an e-mail. In October, the RIAA sent a letter to 2,300 colleges and universities urging them to "impose effective remedies against violators." In response, colleges have "dramatically" stepped up their responses to piracy problems, according to Sheldon Steinbach, general counsel for the American Council on Education. "Although one would like to have a simple solution to the problem of misuse of university bandwidth, the congressman's proposed solution does not go to the core elements of the issue," Steinbach said of Carter's push to prosecute college file traders. "There is no simple answer." http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,58081,00.html __________________ <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="1" bgcolor="#008000"><tr><td><font size=3>Gone</font></td></tr></table>

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