New Law in Germany against Dialers - GoFuckYourself.com

jennycards · 04-09-2003, 05:09 AM

Might be interesting for webmasters active in that market ... http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jo-09.04.03-000/

KRL · 04-09-2003, 05:20 AM

Nice article if you read German. How about a translation.

04-09-2003, 05:24 AM

0190 numbers may charge up to 3 Euro per minute and must disconnect after a maximum of one hour. the costs need to be shown before use ....

04-09-2003, 05:27 AM

also it seems like in the future dialers will have to get certified... they must comply with some sort of minimum requirements...

poorwebmaster · 04-09-2003, 05:27 AM

Here's your translation (missbrauch = abuse)

Cabinet decides law to the protection from 0190-Missbrauch The Federal Cabinet adopted a bill on today's Wednesday, with which the abuse at the use of the 0190er and 0900er-Nummern was to be dammed. Calls may cost in the future maximally three euro per minute. After one hour the connection must be separated automatically. Offerers threaten with abuse the withdrawal of the service number, communicated the consumer Ministry. The price for the use of the number must be indicated in the future, before costs arise. Each user is to be able to inquire names and chargable address of an offerer at the adjustment authority for telecommunications and post office (RegTP). In addition the law plans a registration procedure for Dialer so mentioned, which must fulfill minimum requirements with the consumer protection. The obligation of the offerers to inform users about the price is to apply in the future also to hand Y connectors to the expensive service numbers. This obligation is to however only enter into force with a transition period of one year. Up to then the enterprises must have solved their technical problems, avowed consumer minister Renate Kuenast. The law is to be passed after the will of the Federal Government up to the summer by Upper House of Parliament and Bundestag. After the available information there were no substantial changes in the decided legal text for the second draft of the law for the "fight of the abuse of 190er-/0900er-Mehrwertdiensterufnummern". To the criticism at this bill see also the comment still no effective protection against 0190/0900-Missbrauch.

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kmanrox · 04-09-2003, 05:49 AM

thx for the translations... germany is big for the dialer guys..

TheJimmy · 04-10-2003, 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by kmanrox
thx for the translations... germany is big for the dialer guys..

yes, they do love the porn over there ;)

I heard that the dialers were getting some VERY bad mainstream press there even as far back as a year ago....I guess the legislation is just now catching up to public opinion

PornBroker · 04-10-2003, 01:48 AM

I believe that they are getting banned in Australia at the end of August...

We get the monthly Telephone Information Services Standards Council (TISSC) reports via our teleco business, and the complaints/breaches from the other service providers running the dialers are massive...

After each entry in the 'remedy' column it invariably says 'refund'.

funkmaster · 04-10-2003, 01:52 AM

... as long as german telekom packs in 65% of all dialer money nothing will change ... fuck the surfer, I did !!!

Theo · 04-10-2003, 01:56 AM

wotan....

sacX · 04-10-2003, 02:09 AM

which company does good with german traffic? I've tried mtree without too much success.. I've tried signing up to programs in German.. but quite hard to understand

most of them it appears won't host the dialer for me..

andi_germany · 04-10-2003, 02:25 AM

This is nothing. As a german webmaster you probably need to block your sites in Germany. It is illegal to publish porn in Germany as it is in most of the world but they now have new legislation that states that there are no valid means of AVS. So basically if you publish porn in any way you are subject to get busted even if you lock it behind 3 different AVS. Also porn in Germany starts with an erected dick or pussy lips shown.

TheJimmy · 04-10-2003, 02:29 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
wotan....

no doubt!

:/

I think dialers have a place in this industry if used correctly....as do cross-sells, rebills, etc....however if all of the above are abused then it hurts this biz and any other that collect funds via those methods...

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04-09-2003, 05:24 AM	#3
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	0190 numbers may charge up to 3 Euro per minute and must disconnect after a maximum of one hour. the costs need to be shown before use ....

04-09-2003, 05:27 AM	#4
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	also it seems like in the future dialers will have to get certified... they must comply with some sort of minimum requirements...

04-09-2003, 05:27 AM	#5
poorwebmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 1,137	Here's your translation (missbrauch = abuse) Cabinet decides law to the protection from 0190-Missbrauch The Federal Cabinet adopted a bill on today's Wednesday, with which the abuse at the use of the 0190er and 0900er-Nummern was to be dammed. Calls may cost in the future maximally three euro per minute. After one hour the connection must be separated automatically. Offerers threaten with abuse the withdrawal of the service number, communicated the consumer Ministry. The price for the use of the number must be indicated in the future, before costs arise. Each user is to be able to inquire names and chargable address of an offerer at the adjustment authority for telecommunications and post office (RegTP). In addition the law plans a registration procedure for Dialer so mentioned, which must fulfill minimum requirements with the consumer protection. The obligation of the offerers to inform users about the price is to apply in the future also to hand Y connectors to the expensive service numbers. This obligation is to however only enter into force with a transition period of one year. Up to then the enterprises must have solved their technical problems, avowed consumer minister Renate Kuenast. The law is to be passed after the will of the Federal Government up to the summer by Upper House of Parliament and Bundestag. After the available information there were no substantial changes in the decided legal text for the second draft of the law for the "fight of the abuse of 190er-/0900er-Mehrwertdiensterufnummern". To the criticism at this bill see also the comment still no effective protection against 0190/0900-Missbrauch. <a href="http://sextracash.com/php/registration.php?referred_by=macdaddy" target="_blank"><img src="http://sextracash.com/images/banner_3_120x60.gif" width="120" height="60" border="0" alt="SextraCash.com"></a>

04-10-2003, 01:52 AM	#9
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04-10-2003, 02:25 AM	#12
andi_germany Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 768	This is nothing. As a german webmaster you probably need to block your sites in Germany. It is illegal to publish porn in Germany as it is in most of the world but they now have new legislation that states that there are no valid means of AVS. So basically if you publish porn in any way you are subject to get busted even if you lock it behind 3 different AVS. Also porn in Germany starts with an erected dick or pussy lips shown.