ibill's Canadian online check memberships toast - GoFuckYourself.com

quiet · 03-31-2003, 05:46 PM

effective immediately all Canadian recurring online check memberships are canceled, and Canadian surfers can no longer sign up via online check.

just got a call from ibill, thought i'd share

WiredGuy · 03-31-2003, 05:47 PM

They give you a reason? I suppose they don't need one, these kind of announcements coming from iBill don't surprise me anymore...

WG

Gman.357 · 03-31-2003, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
effective immediately all Canadian recurring online check memberships are canceled, and Canadian surfers can no longer sign up via online check.

just got a call from ibill, thought i'd share

Wow. How much are you assessing losses as being, quiet?

angelsofporn · 03-31-2003, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
effective immediately all Canadian recurring online check memberships are canceled, and Canadian surfers can no longer sign up via online check.

just got a call from ibill, thought i'd share

whoa...for you that's like 80K a month I'll bet...thats pretty lame..good thing they gave you advance notice..since you dont have affiliates there are way better options than ibill for online checks..ones that verify the funds based on info that is updated every 24 hours so you dont get the huge bouncers that online checks give

quiet · 03-31-2003, 05:52 PM

reason given is that they are unable to settle Canadian checks... so any Canadians who are currently recurring this way are lost.

Jer · 03-31-2003, 06:00 PM

In this business we have to make money today like it won't be possible tomorrow.

jact · 03-31-2003, 06:01 PM

Canadian banks hate them. Canadians hate them. Bomb iBill?

Seriously though, that sucks.

NetRodent · 03-31-2003, 07:12 PM

I've defended iBill alot on this board but its really starting to annoy me that I have to find out about things like this here. With the amount we pay iBill in fees they could well afford a fulltime employee just for dealing with our issues.

Shoplifter · 03-31-2003, 07:19 PM

Considering that I probably have had maybe 5 Candian check sign ups this is not an issue.

What is an issue is that I did not receive an email about this and have to read it here. There isn't even a message in the CMI about this.

NETbilling · 04-01-2003, 01:25 AM

Hi,

The Canadian ACH market is not very stable. We can surely help with your US ACH processing at rates lower than any other in the industry, and including costomer verfication.

Netbilling.com

Mitch

Colin H · 04-03-2003, 02:50 PM

Due to the overwhelming success of our DirectCheck product we will be introducing Canadian DirectCheck in the next 6-8 Weeks.

DIRECTCHECK

-No NSF's
-No chargebacks
-No reserve held
-Your ProBilling account is funded instantly

Click My sig to take the DirectCheck tour.

Please feel free to contact me with any questions you may have.
[email protected]

Kohun · 04-03-2003, 03:06 PM

All hate IBILL. To my mind Ibill cheat at online check and some recurring transactions. I worked with Ibill and know about this fact.

Mark

SunTzu · 04-03-2003, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin H
Due to the overwhelming success of our DirectCheck product we will be introducing Canadian DirectCheck in the next 6-8 Weeks.

DIRECTCHECK

-No NSF's
-No chargebacks
-No reserve held
-Your ProBilling account is funded instantly

Click My sig to take the DirectCheck tour.

Please feel free to contact me with any questions you may have.
[email protected]

Yeah I like your Direct Check service, looking forward to Canadian checks!

BJ · 04-03-2003, 06:02 PM

seems to make sense, given that:

Quote:

Because some of the transactions iBill processes are for the adult entertainment industry, our reputation with our customers and in the investment community may be harmed and the price of our common stock may
decline.

schilli · 04-03-2003, 07:30 PM

Go with Verotel -- check my sig --

tony286 · 04-03-2003, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin H
Due to the overwhelming success of our DirectCheck product we will be introducing Canadian DirectCheck in the next 6-8 Weeks.

DIRECTCHECK

-No NSF's
-No chargebacks
-No reserve held
-Your ProBilling account is funded instantly

Click My sig to take the DirectCheck tour.

Please feel free to contact me with any questions you may have.
[email protected]

Why do you charge $15 per check for checksmart product if the check comes back or doesnt clear ? I dont understand returned check fees at all in fact isnt it why you all get your percentage of our blood. lol

Colin H · 04-04-2003, 02:14 PM

Hey Tony,

For our CheckSmart product we do not charge for checks that are returned / unsuccessful (NSF or rejected due to closed bank account etc.) But when the consumer visits their bank and determines the transaction was a non-authorized charge, then the previously successful transaction is classified as a chargeback, with a $15 fee.

Colin H
ProBilling.com

03-31-2003, 05:46 PM	#1
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	ibill's Canadian online check memberships toast effective immediately all Canadian recurring online check memberships are canceled, and Canadian surfers can no longer sign up via online check. just got a call from ibill, thought i'd share

03-31-2003, 05:47 PM	#2
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,486	They give you a reason? I suppose they don't need one, these kind of announcements coming from iBill don't surprise me anymore... WG __________________ I play with Google.

03-31-2003, 06:01 PM	#7
jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	Canadian banks hate them. Canadians hate them. Bomb iBill? Seriously though, that sucks. __________________ Free agent

03-31-2003, 07:12 PM	#8
NetRodent Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: In the walls of your house. Posts: 3,985	I've defended iBill alot on this board but its really starting to annoy me that I have to find out about things like this here. With the amount we pay iBill in fees they could well afford a fulltime employee just for dealing with our issues. __________________ "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --H.L. Mencken

04-01-2003, 01:25 AM	#10
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,586	Hi, The Canadian ACH market is not very stable. We can surely help with your US ACH processing at rates lower than any other in the industry, and including costomer verfication. Netbilling.com Mitch __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

03-31-2003, 05:52 PM	#5
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	reason given is that they are unable to settle Canadian checks... so any Canadians who are currently recurring this way are lost.

03-31-2003, 06:00 PM	#6
Jer God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 10,601	In this business we have to make money today like it won't be possible tomorrow.

03-31-2003, 07:19 PM	#9
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,730	Considering that I probably have had maybe 5 Candian check sign ups this is not an issue. What is an issue is that I did not receive an email about this and have to read it here. There isn't even a message in the CMI about this.

04-03-2003, 02:50 PM	#11
Colin H Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 35	Due to the overwhelming success of our DirectCheck product we will be introducing Canadian DirectCheck in the next 6-8 Weeks. DIRECTCHECK -No NSF's -No chargebacks -No reserve held -Your ProBilling account is funded instantly Click My sig to take the DirectCheck tour. Please feel free to contact me with any questions you may have. [email protected] __________________ [email protected] <a href="http://www.probilling.com/advertiserDispatcher.cfm?ac=COLINH&pc=COLINH" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.probilling.com/images/promo/DC1_468x60.gif" border="0"></a>

04-03-2003, 03:06 PM	#12
Kohun Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 274	All hate IBILL. To my mind Ibill cheat at online check and some recurring transactions. I worked with Ibill and know about this fact. Mark __________________ Click here to make money www.PEAKMONEY.com ICQ # 172316026

04-03-2003, 07:30 PM	#15
schilli Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 265	Go with Verotel -- check my sig --

04-04-2003, 02:14 PM	#17
Colin H Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 35	Hey Tony, For our CheckSmart product we do not charge for checks that are returned / unsuccessful (NSF or rejected due to closed bank account etc.) But when the consumer visits their bank and determines the transaction was a non-authorized charge, then the previously successful transaction is classified as a chargeback, with a $15 fee. Colin H ProBilling.com __________________ [email protected] <a href="http://www.probilling.com/advertiserDispatcher.cfm?ac=COLINH&pc=COLINH" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.probilling.com/images/promo/DC1_468x60.gif" border="0"></a>