No more paypal - who to use now? - GoFuckYourself.com

Scoobs · 03-30-2003, 05:37 PM

Hey all...

This may have been asked before, but I will ask again anyway...

We sell DVDs from our site and have been using paypal for payment, however now that paypal isn't accepting anything adult anymore, what's the best alternative where we don't have to pay huge fees?

Thanks!

jact · 03-30-2003, 05:39 PM

I've heard good things about Epassporte if you're a US vendor, Netbilling is actually quite reasonable to setup and process with, again if you're a US vendor.. Depends on all of your needs.

Chris Mallick · 03-30-2003, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact
I've heard good things about Epassporte if you're a US vendor, Netbilling is actually quite reasonable to setup and process with, again if you're a US vendor.. Depends on all of your needs.

Thanks jact, but you can be anywhere, not US only. Thanks again....

C

psyko514 · 03-30-2003, 05:59 PM

check out www.stormpay.com

ZoiNk · 03-30-2003, 06:25 PM

Surf a few casino sites and you will see the popular alternatives since paypal shook up a lot on casinos lately (I believe, but I could be 100% wrong).
ZoiNk

Scoobs · 03-30-2003, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact
I've heard good things about Epassporte if you're a US vendor, Netbilling is actually quite reasonable to setup and process with, again if you're a US vendor.. Depends on all of your needs.

I may be missing something here, but how can we use Epassporte to accept payments for physical goods? I searched the website again and didn't find anything on this??

Thanks!

NETbilling · 03-30-2003, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scoobs
Hey all...

This may have been asked before, but I will ask again anyway...

We sell DVDs from our site and have been using paypal for payment, however now that paypal isn't accepting anything adult anymore, what's the best alternative where we don't have to pay huge fees?

Thanks!

Scoobs,

We can set you up at a very reasonable rate and provide you with one of the most powerful processing systems available to accept credit cards, checks, and phone orders through our call center if you desire.

Feel free to contact us Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166
Outside the US: (661)252-2456.

You can also ICQ me directly at: ICQ #117496436 or AIM - Netbillme

Mention GFY or "Paypal screwed me" and we will waive the setup fee as well.

Thank you, Mitch Farber

Plat · 03-30-2003, 10:17 PM

When is the date they are stopping it completly?

I got a script on my site where ppl submit a gallery to my site and go through paypal automatically, which is gonna have to get updated now. just wondering... i thought I heard April 15th?

Sputter · 03-30-2003, 10:23 PM

You certainly cannot go wrong with Netbilling. They process for our membership sites and DVD store and we feel they are the best!

Sputter

MarkTiarra · 03-30-2003, 10:58 PM

I wonder if any replacement was to gain a popular hold if they'd just end up going the same way. We all know Visa wants to keep the contact points to a minimum if not zero. We've still got far too many small companies not being responsible enough with CS and billing issues too and that's gonna hurt anyone processing too many adult accounts.

psyko514 · 03-30-2003, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling
Mention GFY or "Paypal screwed me" and we will waive the setup fee as well.

is this an ongoing deal? cause i'll definetly hit you up in a few days!

Plat · 03-30-2003, 11:25 PM

I need someone like paypal tho. something as large. epassports or whatnot is that the closest?

psyko514 · 03-30-2003, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Plat
I need someone like paypal tho. something as large. epassports or whatnot is that the closest?

second time around:

www.stormpay.com

Plat · 03-30-2003, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514

second time around:

www.stormpay.com

third time around...should I look that up in the dictionary too?

:p

thanks ill look into it

NETbilling · 03-30-2003, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514

is this an ongoing deal? cause i'll definetly hit you up in a few days!

Yes, this will be ingoing for quite awhile.

We look forward to hearing from you.

Thank you, Mitch

Icy · 03-31-2003, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris Mallick

Thanks jact, but you can be anywhere, not US only. Thanks again....

C

Please check your system if you want non USA customers to use it. I have tried at least 5 times to set up an acount, but it keeps rejecting both my VISA CLASSIC and VISA ELECTRON cards saying that my spanish bank doesn't support CVV2/CVC2, when i haven't that issue at any other site, like paypal or doing any ccard payment where i also type the CVV2/CVC2 code. Also a friend tried it with his card and had same issue, his bank is not the same as mine. Seems you have a problem with spanish banks.

max.yambo · 03-31-2003, 02:11 PM

Visit www.yambo.biz or talk to me via icq.
We can help you.

AdultNex · 03-31-2003, 02:15 PM

I recommend Stormpay.com, but they are expensive.

... To fund by a credit card costs 10% + $1.25.

jact · 03-31-2003, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris Mallick

Thanks jact, but you can be anywhere, not US only. Thanks again....

C

Okay, I'm talking about accepting Epassporte on the merchant level, not doing P2P transfers. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you need to be in an IPSP relationship with Epoch to do this? Or was Rand telling me misinformation?

Rand · 03-31-2003, 03:42 PM

Maybe I didn't understand your question.

When you say "merchant level" do you mean to say accepting epassporte through your own merchant account?

jact · 03-31-2003, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rand
Maybe I didn't understand your question.

When you say "merchant level" do you mean to say accepting epassporte through your own merchant account?

Okay, too much runaround and nonsense, I just won't even bother with your company. deal? Jesus.

badmunchkin · 03-31-2003, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514

second time around:

www.stormpay.com

Are you actually succcessfully using stormpay? I've heard some pretty negative comments about them. See Link.
Alternative to Paypal

badmunchkin · 03-31-2003, 03:52 PM

If you don't want to dig through the whole thread, here's one specific commentary:

Well, I had one customer use Storm Pay tonight, and I have to say the results are less than thrilling.

This guy is not some newbie -- he knows his way around computers, but is so frustrated by StormPay he's ready to just send ten bucks cash

Here is his email:

"PAm. Storm PAy is even screwier. It jumps from saying you must deposit a minimum of $10.00, to saying deposits are made in $10 increments. I tell it 20, thinking $20, now it has billed $200.00. So tomorrow, when I am in the mood for this, I will be contactying Storm Pay for a withdrawal of at least $180.00."

He didn't give up, though, and went back.

"I have deposited money into Storm PAy - now the bastards say there is no money on account. This is getting screwier by the mouse click"

What's sad about this is he originally paid via PartyKey. I noticed in my stats his $10 was not listed, so I emailed to inquire. After 10 emails they tell me they charged his account back and gave him his money back as they suspected fraud. When I told them he was a personal friend and I doubted he was doing anything fraudulent, they said for him to try again and they'd not our 'friendship' on the account.

Ticked me off they didn't email to tell me his transaction was rejected.

SO now he's gone through 2 processors without success.

badmunchkin · 03-31-2003, 03:59 PM

Here's a good article about starting an alternative to paypal run "by webmasters for webmasters"
A Processing Alternative?

Chris Mallick · 03-31-2003, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact

Okay, too much runaround and nonsense, I just won't even bother with your company. deal? Jesus.

WTF is your problem? Rand and I are trying to answer your questions. You seem to keep changing the question. So "whatever" ... do or don't ask or do business with us, but do not think for a second that we have tried to do anything but answer your ever-changing questions.

We try harder, but sometines that is not enough, I guess.

jact · 03-31-2003, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris Mallick

WTF is your problem? Rand and I are trying to answer your questions. You seem to keep changing the question. So "whatever" ... do or don't ask or do business with us, but do not think for a second that we have tried to do anything but answer your ever-changing questions.

We try harder, but sometines that is not enough, I guess.

My question has not once changed, your answers to the same question have been ever different person to person. Perhaps you should write out a definitive document available publically instead of having each misinformed employee telling customers something different?

How hard is it to actually answer a simple question?

Scoobs · 03-31-2003, 04:18 PM

Chris/Rand...

How about answering my question then?...

I wanted to know if epassporte can be used to accept payments for single transactions? Does epoch have this option? Do you still charge the same percentage?

Thanks.

Rand · 03-31-2003, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact

How hard is it to actually answer a simple question?

I sent you a 911 word answer to your various questions on March 24 at 10:51 AM to which you did not reply for clarification of any point. I am not misinformed but it I might have misunderstood. What up?

jact · 03-31-2003, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rand

I sent you a 911 word answer to your various questions on March 24 at 10:51 AM to which you did not reply for clarification of any point. I am not misinformed but it I might have misunderstood. What up?

Your answer was 100% different than KimmyKim's answer. Your answer (as I interpterted it) was 100% different from Chris' answer above.

To paraphrase what you told me if one wants to accept Epassporte as an integrated part of their website, they must hold a Visa account with Epoch, otherwise you can do P2P transfers that are not integrated. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

Rand · 03-31-2003, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scoobs
Chris/Rand...

How about answering my question then?...

I wanted to know if epassporte can be used to accept payments for single transactions? Does epoch have this option? Do you still charge the same percentage?

Thanks.

Single Trans? Yes.

Epoch has this option.

You would pay the same percentage if you accept an epassporte payment though your Epoch account. If you were accepting a P2P from someone you pay nothing to receive the funds. If you want to accept epassporte as a payment type (with a commercial account) there are ways to do that at no cost (no tran fee) to the buyer. You pay the fee. To find out more about those fees write to [email protected].

Rand · 03-31-2003, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact

To paraphrase what you told me if one wants to accept Epassporte as an integrated part of their website, they must hold a Visa account with Epoch, otherwise you can do P2P transfers that are not integrated. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

Accepting epassporte through your Epoch account for recurring or one time payments, epassporte is processed as any another Visa card except it is more readily accepted from areas of the world that a normal credit card might get scrubbed out.

Epassporte personal account holders do not need a contract with Epoch or any other IPSP to move funds to each other.

Commercial account holders will soon have a tool available to them which in affect let's you become a merchant able to accept epassporte payments without charging your customer any transaction fee and without the need for an IPSP agreement. That is probably what Kimmy was telling you about.

Does that answer your question?

jact · 03-31-2003, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rand

Accepting epassporte through your Epoch account for recurring or one time payments, epassporte is processed as any another Visa card except it is more readily accepted from areas of the world that a normal credit card might get scrubbed out.

Epassporte personal account holders do not need a contract with Epoch or any other IPSP to move funds to each other.

Commercial account holders will soon have a tool available to them which in affect let's you become a merchant able to accept epassporte payments without charging your customer any transaction fee and without the need for an IPSP agreement. That is probably what Kimmy was telling you about.

Does that answer your question?

Actually it does. Thanks for that. What's the timeframe on the commercial tool?

Rand · 03-31-2003, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact

Actually it does. Thanks for that. What's the timeframe on the commercial tool?

It's already built and in beta. It's only a matter of days now.

Glad I finally answered the right question.

Get Epoch News Lite:
http://www.epochsystems.com/epochnewslite/

jact · 03-31-2003, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rand

It's already built and in beta. It's only a matter of days now.

Glad I finally answered the right question.

Get Epoch News Lite:
http://www.epochsystems.com/epochnewslite/

It wasn't a matter of you not answering it, it was a matter of other people giving different impressions or answering it based upon P2P transactions.. I guess it's all a miscommunication on someobody's part, everybody's part, nobody's part.. Water under the bridge, the coming changes sound very cool.

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Plat Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 2,680	When is the date they are stopping it completly? I got a script on my site where ppl submit a gallery to my site and go through paypal automatically, which is gonna have to get updated now. just wondering... i thought I heard April 15th? __________________ Im fuckin retired

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MarkTiarra Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 3,833	I wonder if any replacement was to gain a popular hold if they'd just end up going the same way. We all know Visa wants to keep the contact points to a minimum if not zero. We've still got far too many small companies not being responsible enough with CS and billing issues too and that's gonna hurt anyone processing too many adult accounts. __________________ Retired Pornosticator

03-30-2003, 05:37 PM	#1
Scoobs Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Out back Posts: 492	No more paypal - who to use now? Hey all... This may have been asked before, but I will ask again anyway... We sell DVDs from our site and have been using paypal for payment, however now that paypal isn't accepting anything adult anymore, what's the best alternative where we don't have to pay huge fees? Thanks!

03-30-2003, 10:23 PM	#9
Sputter Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 61	You certainly cannot go wrong with Netbilling. They process for our membership sites and DVD store and we feel they are the best! Sputter

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Plat Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 2,680	I need someone like paypal tho. something as large. epassports or whatnot is that the closest? __________________ Im fuckin retired

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badmunchkin Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 3,797	If you don't want to dig through the whole thread, here's one specific commentary: Well, I had one customer use Storm Pay tonight, and I have to say the results are less than thrilling. This guy is not some newbie -- he knows his way around computers, but is so frustrated by StormPay he's ready to just send ten bucks cash Here is his email: "PAm. Storm PAy is even screwier. It jumps from saying you must deposit a minimum of $10.00, to saying deposits are made in $10 increments. I tell it 20, thinking $20, now it has billed $200.00. So tomorrow, when I am in the mood for this, I will be contactying Storm Pay for a withdrawal of at least $180.00." He didn't give up, though, and went back. "I have deposited money into Storm PAy - now the bastards say there is no money on account. This is getting screwier by the mouse click" What's sad about this is he originally paid via PartyKey. I noticed in my stats his $10 was not listed, so I emailed to inquire. After 10 emails they tell me they charged his account back and gave him his money back as they suspected fraud. When I told them he was a personal friend and I doubted he was doing anything fraudulent, they said for him to try again and they'd not our 'friendship' on the account. Ticked me off they didn't email to tell me his transaction was rejected. SO now he's gone through 2 processors without success. __________________ Custom, Full Color Printing with BIG Discounts for GFY! ICQ 283197499

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badmunchkin Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 3,797	Here's a good article about starting an alternative to paypal run "by webmasters for webmasters" A Processing Alternative? __________________ Custom, Full Color Printing with BIG Discounts for GFY! ICQ 283197499

03-31-2003, 04:18 PM	#27
Scoobs Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Out back Posts: 492	Chris/Rand... How about answering my question then?... I wanted to know if epassporte can be used to accept payments for single transactions? Does epoch have this option? Do you still charge the same percentage? Thanks.