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KRL · 03-26-2003, 09:29 PM

Watching those guys it seems like they are all looking exhausted as hell.

Just wondering if anyone here has been in combat like that and wondering:

1. How the hell do you sleep when you're in battle? Even if they give you time, I'd be real concerned about closing my eyes for even a minute out there.

2. How often do you get to take a shower? Or don't they?

3. Where in the heck do all those troops and the EPW's take a dump? Do you just dig your own little hole or what?

4. What do they do for change of underwear, t-shirt, etc.? Or does it just rot on you?

Fuck it must smell like hell to be in a tent with 8 dudes under those combat conditions. I can't even fathom what the Iraqi's must smell like too.

[Labret] · 03-26-2003, 09:38 PM

playa · 03-26-2003, 09:38 PM

one keyword

Lots of Baby Wipes

The Other Steve · 03-26-2003, 09:48 PM

When you're in the army you learn to catnap - 5 minutes here and 5 minutes there - it keeps you going.

Showers????????

You're in the army soldier - keep your weapon clean and don't waste time with your body - the undertaker will do that when you're dead - if they can find the body parts.

Underwear - well if you haven't shit yourself the first time a shell has landed nearby you and your buddy can get 4 days wear out of a pair of jocks.

Day 1 - wear as normal

Day 2 - turn inside out

Day 3 - swap with your buddy

Day 4 - turn inside out

Having a shit? - the only thing you have to worry about is not getting caught with your pants down

DearAbby · 03-26-2003, 10:40 PM

WTF?

Gutterboy · 03-26-2003, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by The Other Steve
When you're in the army you learn to catnap - 5 minutes here and 5 minutes there - it keeps you going.

Showers????????

You're in the army soldier - keep your weapon clean and don't waste time with your body - the undertaker will do that when you're dead - if they can find the body parts.

Underwear - well if you haven't shit yourself the first time a shell has landed nearby you and your buddy can get 4 days wear out of a pair of jocks.

Day 1 - wear as normal

Day 2 - turn inside out

Day 3 - swap with your buddy

Day 4 - turn inside out

Having a shit? - the only thing you have to worry about is not getting caught with your pants down

Poseur! Any real military man knows you can get 2 more days out of them by turning them back to front as well as inside out.

Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
Watching those guys it seems like they are all looking exhausted as hell.

they are.

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Originally posted by KRL
Just wondering if anyone here has been in combat like that and wondering:

1. How the hell do you sleep when you're in battle? Even if they give you time, I'd be real concerned about closing my eyes for even a minute out there.

One eye open, for extremely short periods of time, with someone watching your back.

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Originally posted by KRL

2. How often do you get to take a shower? Or don't they?

showers? LOL

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Originally posted by KRL

3. Where in the heck do all those troops and the EPW's take a dump? Do you just dig your own little hole or what?

squat behind your truck/tank.

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Originally posted by KRL

4. What do they do for change of underwear, t-shirt, etc.? Or does it just rot on you?

now you're getting the idea....

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Originally posted by KRL

Fuck it must smell like hell to be in a tent with 8 dudes under those combat conditions. I can't even fathom what the Iraqi's must smell like too.

after a while, nothing matters anymore. Not even the smell.

KRL · 03-26-2003, 10:44 PM

Are you serious? 4 days on one pair of underwear after wearing all those WMD sweat outfits and lugging around 60 lbs of gear on your back all day. Damn, I feel sorry for the dudes that get laundry duty when those guys get done fighting.

Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
Are you serious? 4 days on one pair of underwear after wearing all those WMD sweat outfits and lugging around 60 lbs of gear on your back all day. Damn, I feel sorry for the dudes that get laundry duty when those guys get done fighting.

dude, when they get back, they'll be burning that shit and getting new stuff. No laundry soap on Earth can clean that shit.

playa · 03-26-2003, 10:46 PM

the problem is that freakin sand,

especially that fine baby powder sand, it gets in everything,

Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 10:48 PM

you can try and wash some stuff over there... but you use water from the same bottle that you drink from, and the little mini hotel soaps that come in the MREs. There's no fucking laundrymat out there, and certainly no showers or toilets.

Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by playa
the problem is that freakin sand,

especially that fine baby powder sand, it gets in everything,

I still got my green duffles... and they still got Iraqi sand in 'em. You just can't ever get rid of that shit.

Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 10:54 PM

welcome to paradise...

KRL · 03-26-2003, 10:59 PM

Die for country, shit in a dirt hole for your country, wear the same pair of underwear for a week for your country, and sleep in mud for your country.

Man, that pic says it all Amp.

So what do the MRE's taste like?

Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
Die for country, shit in a dirt hole for your country, wear the same pair of underwear for a week for your country, and sleep in mud for your country.

Man, that pic says it all Amp.

So what do the MRE's taste like?

20 year old dehydrated eggs? Take a guess.... lol
I was 144 lbs. by the time I got back.

playa · 03-26-2003, 11:03 PM

MRE's have improved alot, there very tasty, prolly way better now even

but the worse thing bout MRE is that it leaves you constipated, i couldn't shit for a week one time

markm287 · 03-26-2003, 11:03 PM

The first MRE isnt that bad, it is the 2nd on,
but fud is fud. Thank god for hot sauce

sextoyking · 03-26-2003, 11:04 PM

KRL,

While I was never in combat, I spent 2 hard years in Germany during the cold war, 86-88

Since I was a gun bunny on a how, part of combat arms, It was 45 days out, 30-45 in, etc, etc. Training in the field alot of times is tough / hard shit. Not like my bros who were in saudi probably, but pretty tough.

45 days, 1 shower per week, 30 below zero, it sucks

I recommend the service to any 18-22 yr old person. great way to grow up, travel, and work your ass off.

Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by markm287
The first MRE isnt that bad, it is the 2nd on,
but fud is fud. Thank god for hot sauce

word.... I actually kinda liked the meat like substance with a shitload of hotsauce on it after a while.... but we'd all trade around for whatever sounded good that day. Some days the eggs were sounding good... somedays the beef thing.

Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by playa
MRE's have improved alot, there very tasty, prolly way better now even

but the worse thing bout MRE is that it leaves you constipated, i couldn't shit for a week one time

hahaha.... no doubt! One of our motor pool guys went out one night to shit... we knew he was going cuz he told us... but after about a minute we heard him screaming.... we all ran out, caught him with his pants down, covered in fucking ants.... the dumb fucker was shitting on a big fucking ant hill!!

KRL · 03-26-2003, 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
KRL,

While I was never in combat, I spent 2 hard years in Germany during the cold war, 86-88

Since I was a gun bunny on a how, part of combat arms, It was 45 days out, 30-45 in, etc, etc. Training in the field alot of times is tough / hard shit. Not like my bros who were in saudi probably, but pretty tough.

45 days, 1 shower per week, 30 below zero, it sucks

I recommend the service to any 18-22 yr old person. great way to grow up, travel, and work your ass off.

I did ROTC for a while in college, but the instructor we had was like a marine drill sargent with a serious no smiles attitude and most of the group found this guy so uninviting to listen to the attrition rate was high.

FlyingIguana · 03-26-2003, 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by playa
MRE's have improved alot, there very tasty, prolly way better now even

but the worse thing bout MRE is that it leaves you constipated, i couldn't shit for a week one time

well that solves the 'getting caught with your pants down' thing

KRL · 03-26-2003, 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

hahaha.... no doubt! One of our motor pool guys went out one night to shit... we knew he was going cuz he told us... but after about a minute we heard him screaming.... we all ran out, caught him with his pants down, covered in fucking ants.... the dumb fucker was shitting on a big fucking ant hill!!

playa · 03-26-2003, 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by KRL

3. Where in the heck do all those troops and the EPW's take a dump? Do you just dig your own little hole or what?

if your on the move alot then there is no need to keep a latrine

most combat soldiers don't waste any energy by digging, just kick some dirt on it, rear soldiers prolly have them port-a-potties

i never forget the first time i took a shit outside, felt very uncomfortable
the day an entire helicopter squad flew right over me, i saw the fuckers laughing at me

playa · 03-26-2003, 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by markm287
The first MRE isnt that bad, it is the 2nd on,
but fud is fud. Thank god for hot sauce

Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 11:20 PM

I brought a LOT of cans of sardines over in my duffles though too.... so I had something other than MREs for a few months.... ate alot of them, and traded alot of them for cigarettes.

sextoyking · 03-26-2003, 11:21 PM

Mre's sure were better then the old ass A rations we got in the field. Well at least the A's were somewhat hot..

Sometimes, once in a great while I miss the army, made a lot of great friends (brothers) and learned alot.

Once I made E-4 and E-5 it was easier sailing, but as a e-1 - e-3, those guard duty nights with 6 feet of snow on the ground and 30 below zero, can kick your ass!!!

Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
Sometimes, once in a great while I miss the army, made a lot of great friends (brothers) and learned alot.

I hear ya... my bud that I rode wrecker with on our parts cannibal runs... I ended up marrying his cousin. Thank god that's over with now though.... lol

sextoyking · 03-26-2003, 11:27 PM

Right on Amp.

I still talk with 4 ppl from our old unit in Germany. When it was time for me to Re-up in 1989, I would of stayed in but since they were making cuts everywhere they wouldn't let me get a new mos, had to stay as 13b 20, so I said goodbye at Ft. Sill and started in computers / bbs's..

most of my old unit that stayed in went to the gulf a year or so later.

Shit if I had of stayed in, I would of retired in 3 years, ah well I will take adult

)

- Jesus Christ - · 03-26-2003, 11:28 PM

I fight an eternal battle between good and evil on a universal scale.

Does that count?

Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
Right on Amp.

I still talk with 4 ppl from our old unit in Germany. When it was time for me to Re-up in 1989, I would of stayed in but since they were making cuts everywhere they wouldn't let me get a new mos, had to stay as 13b 20, so I said goodbye at Ft. Sill and started in computers / bbs's..

most of my old unit that stayed in went to the gulf a year or so later.

Shit if I had of stayed in, I would of retired in 3 years, ah well I will take adult )

I'm not in contact with any of my old buds... really wish I was. I used to go hang out at the VFW clubs, and talk for hours with Nam vets... everybody's got a kind of mutual understanding of the shit that civilians simply can't grasp. But I stopped doing that several years ago too.... now I just vent shit here on GFY, mostly to people who can't possibly understand nor care. But, once in a while it's nice to bump into ex-military here.

I was gonna re-up too, and got out for the same reason. Wanted to change MOS and switch bases, and was told no. So I gave 'em the finger and rode out on my Harley without looking back.

PhotoShopGuy · 03-26-2003, 11:34 PM

AMP, what was your MOS?

Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 11:34 PM

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Originally posted by PhotoShopGuy
AMP, what was your MOS?

63B with the 1st ID

Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 11:36 PM

was mostly on wrecker, crane, and fueler duty once we landed in the sand.

sextoyking · 03-26-2003, 11:38 PM

Amp,

I should of had that Mos..

Damm being on a 155mm How was ok, but I should of wore them ear plugs like I was instructed to do.

Right ear has always been a little bad ever since

Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 11:41 PM

I was hating every minute of it.... seemed like we never got any sleep. Somebody was always needing fixed, or unstuck from the sand, or fueled, or had to go on some parts or ammo run, or guard duty, or diggin' holes, or burnin' shit barrels, burying gear with dozers, supply & fuel runs.... it just never ended. Motor pool was seriously abused over there.... lol

PhotoShopGuy · 03-27-2003, 12:08 AM

I was a 13B with the 10th Mountain Division. Fired 155mm howitzers... and not the nice self propelled ones either, got fucked with a M198 instead.

Funny thing is, being in a light infantry division, everytime something came up (Somalia & Haiti, and a little incident in Panama in 95) we left the Howitzers in the motorpool and went off as infantry.

4 years of that was enough, changed to 93C and then got fucked with a Korean tour... got out after that.

sextoyking · 03-27-2003, 12:11 AM

Hey PSguy,

right on dude. I never shot from a towed how, all SP.

Slamming power bags, driving, and shooting 50 cals was all I ever learned

)

Pldc in germany was all play

)

The Other Steve · 03-27-2003, 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy

Poseur! Any real military man knows you can get 2 more days out of them by turning them back to front as well as inside out.

The Other Steve · 03-27-2003, 12:49 AM

and then there are the special forces and the British and Australian SAS

those guys take living rough to a whole new level

03-26-2003, 09:29 PM	#1
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Questions for anyone whose been in combat before. Watching those guys it seems like they are all looking exhausted as hell. Just wondering if anyone here has been in combat like that and wondering: 1. How the hell do you sleep when you're in battle? Even if they give you time, I'd be real concerned about closing my eyes for even a minute out there. 2. How often do you get to take a shower? Or don't they? 3. Where in the heck do all those troops and the EPW's take a dump? Do you just dig your own little hole or what? 4. What do they do for change of underwear, t-shirt, etc.? Or does it just rot on you? Fuck it must smell like hell to be in a tent with 8 dudes under those combat conditions. I can't even fathom what the Iraqi's must smell like too.

03-26-2003, 09:48 PM	#4
The Other Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sunny Queensland - perfect one day and better the next. Posts: 2,106	When you're in the army you learn to catnap - 5 minutes here and 5 minutes there - it keeps you going. Showers???????? You're in the army soldier - keep your weapon clean and don't waste time with your body - the undertaker will do that when you're dead - if they can find the body parts. Underwear - well if you haven't shit yourself the first time a shell has landed nearby you and your buddy can get 4 days wear out of a pair of jocks. Day 1 - wear as normal Day 2 - turn inside out Day 3 - swap with your buddy Day 4 - turn inside out Having a shit? - the only thing you have to worry about is not getting caught with your pants down __________________ Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

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Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	you can try and wash some stuff over there... but you use water from the same bottle that you drink from, and the little mini hotel soaps that come in the MREs. There's no fucking laundrymat out there, and certainly no showers or toilets. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

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markm287 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 16	The first MRE isnt that bad, it is the 2nd on, but fud is fud. Thank god for hot sauce __________________ Cry havoc, and release the hounds of war.

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KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Are you serious? 4 days on one pair of underwear after wearing all those WMD sweat outfits and lugging around 60 lbs of gear on your back all day. Damn, I feel sorry for the dudes that get laundry duty when those guys get done fighting.

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playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	the problem is that freakin sand, especially that fine baby powder sand, it gets in everything,

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KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Die for country, shit in a dirt hole for your country, wear the same pair of underwear for a week for your country, and sleep in mud for your country. Man, that pic says it all Amp. So what do the MRE's taste like?

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sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	KRL, While I was never in combat, I spent 2 hard years in Germany during the cold war, 86-88 Since I was a gun bunny on a how, part of combat arms, It was 45 days out, 30-45 in, etc, etc. Training in the field alot of times is tough / hard shit. Not like my bros who were in saudi probably, but pretty tough. 45 days, 1 shower per week, 30 below zero, it sucks I recommend the service to any 18-22 yr old person. great way to grow up, travel, and work your ass off. __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

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Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	I brought a LOT of cans of sardines over in my duffles though too.... so I had something other than MREs for a few months.... ate alot of them, and traded alot of them for cigarettes. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

03-26-2003, 11:21 PM	#27
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Mre's sure were better then the old ass A rations we got in the field. Well at least the A's were somewhat hot.. Sometimes, once in a great while I miss the army, made a lot of great friends (brothers) and learned alot. Once I made E-4 and E-5 it was easier sailing, but as a e-1 - e-3, those guard duty nights with 6 feet of snow on the ground and 30 below zero, can kick your ass!!! __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

03-26-2003, 11:27 PM	#29
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Right on Amp. I still talk with 4 ppl from our old unit in Germany. When it was time for me to Re-up in 1989, I would of stayed in but since they were making cuts everywhere they wouldn't let me get a new mos, had to stay as 13b 20, so I said goodbye at Ft. Sill and started in computers / bbs's.. most of my old unit that stayed in went to the gulf a year or so later. Shit if I had of stayed in, I would of retired in 3 years, ah well I will take adult ) __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

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PhotoShopGuy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Outside your bedroom window Posts: 222	AMP, what was your MOS?

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Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	was mostly on wrecker, crane, and fueler duty once we landed in the sand. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

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sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Amp, I should of had that Mos.. Damm being on a 155mm How was ok, but I should of wore them ear plugs like I was instructed to do. Right ear has always been a little bad ever since __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

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Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	I was hating every minute of it.... seemed like we never got any sleep. Somebody was always needing fixed, or unstuck from the sand, or fueled, or had to go on some parts or ammo run, or guard duty, or diggin' holes, or burnin' shit barrels, burying gear with dozers, supply & fuel runs.... it just never ended. Motor pool was seriously abused over there.... lol __________________ SIG TOO BIG

03-27-2003, 12:08 AM	#37
PhotoShopGuy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Outside your bedroom window Posts: 222	I was a 13B with the 10th Mountain Division. Fired 155mm howitzers... and not the nice self propelled ones either, got fucked with a M198 instead. Funny thing is, being in a light infantry division, everytime something came up (Somalia & Haiti, and a little incident in Panama in 95) we left the Howitzers in the motorpool and went off as infantry. 4 years of that was enough, changed to 93C and then got fucked with a Korean tour... got out after that.

03-27-2003, 12:11 AM	#38
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Hey PSguy, right on dude. I never shot from a towed how, all SP. Slamming power bags, driving, and shooting 50 cals was all I ever learned ) Pldc in germany was all play ) __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

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The Other Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sunny Queensland - perfect one day and better the next. Posts: 2,106	and then there are the special forces and the British and Australian SAS those guys take living rough to a whole new level __________________ Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain