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Old 05-18-2016, 04:42 PM   #51
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Once again: a submarine mission is a hidden thing, while it's an open act of aggression. You have came to our waters (some call them the NATO waters because they have no idea on who really rules in Baltic) and you were warned. That's absolutely was normal and I don't see any reason for hysterics about it.
You couldn't be more wrong here.

This isn't an act of aggression; It's a ship in international waters - Period. There was no warning issued, again, this is in international waters.

The only hysterics was on the part of the Russians who buzzed a military ship for no reason.

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Don't be that silly. A missile range is about 2500 kilo-fucking-meters. It "was tracked" my ass
Yes, let's not be silly. Any missile launched in the Baltic sea would instantly be tracked by half a dozen countries. The same with any ship or plane.
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Old 05-18-2016, 04:45 PM   #52
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give it another decade or 2 for tech to improve and launching missiles will be as useful as launching rocks with a catapult....

give the russians 2 years and they will make mirrors...also the problem with lasers is that they are good at hitting something that is flying str8...but if it flies at say 20x the speed of sound like the russian topol m and does evasive manouvers and leaves decoys etc, its gonna be hella hard to hit it from a long distance...

in 20 years they will probably have fully reflective paint on missiles going like mach 50...

but the lasers are bound to make $$$ for the cronies in the US gov
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give the russians 2 years and they will make mirrors...also the problem with lasers is that they are good at hitting something that is flying str8...but if it flies at say 20x the speed of sound like the russian topol m and does evasive manouvers and leaves decoys etc, its gonna be hella hard to hit it from a long distance...

in 20 years they will probably have fully reflective paint on missiles going like mach 50...

but the lasers are bound to make $$$ for the cronies in the US gov
laws of physics are not looking good for missiles... missiles are physical objects, so there is a limit on how fast you can make them fly, limit on how fast and how many you can produce, store, launch, etc... each one costs a pretty decent chunk of change... their performance will probably improve a bit, but any future gains will likely be modest at best...

lasers on the other hand in theory have unlimited range, unlimited power, speeds many orders of magnitude faster than any missile anyone could even theoretically dream up, unlimited supply of "shots", each one costing virtually nothing.. etc...

so I'll stand by my initial statement, lasers and other "directed energy" weapons are the future...
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laws of physics are not looking good for missiles... missiles are physical objects, so there is a limit on how fast you can make them fly, limit on how fast and how many you can produce, store, launch, etc... each one costs a pretty decent chunk of change... their performance will probably improve a bit, but any future gains will likely be modest at best...

lasers on the other hand in theory have unlimited range, unlimited power, speeds many orders of magnitude faster than any missile anyone could even theoretically dream up, unlimited supply of "shots", each one costing virtually nothing.. etc...

so I'll stand by my initial statement, lasers and other "directed energy" weapons are the future...
this is absolutely correct. Once built, there is virtually no cost to firing 1000 lasers. This is the direction of the earths defence.

Regarding where the ship was, Rochard was correct in saying it was stupid for the pilots to fly so close, what if there was a problem with the plane, the US Navy would have been blamed, a stupid move considering there's plenty of Russian subs seen way closer than 40miles to the UK, British air force doesn't fly below the hard deck to buzz them
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You couldn't be more wrong here.

This isn't an act of aggression; It's a ship in international waters - Period.
What kind of aggression was that? A NATO ship has a right to be in the international waters. Yes, it can. A fighter-bomber can a same right to be there. Yes, it can! So what;s the question? The "quests" have approached our coast and we have simulated an attack off them. Nobody was killed, right? When the US ship entered our zone of influence it has given us a signal: "hey guys, we are here and we can attack you". We just answered: "even try to think about that". That's a usual military behavior. I really can't see a single problem with that. You ship was "intercepted" in the same maner like your fighter-jets intercept Russian bomber planes in the international airspace near your borders. Once again: what's a problem?

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were you in a coma for the past 30 years? still think it's the 70s or something? at one time Russia did indeed have some influence over the Baltic, but those times are long gone...
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Your translator is fucked up. I simply stated that ships like that one have defenses.
Every ship has a defends, but there is no defends against cruise missiles. Especially with tactical nuke warheads because they don't need to make a direct hit. No one country has such a kind of defense (States, Russia, China or whatever). All those lasers, S400, Greyhounds etc are absolutely useless against a cruise missile flying with a super sonic speed at 20 meters. It will hit the target in a half of a second when it will just come into a range. I know some people are playing computer games where all-mighty pew-pew lasers can stop any missile, but the real life is not a game. You can't hit a bullet with another bullet.
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Lasers are for computer games. Those are ones of the best real-working defense systems:



But I will not give a ruble for it against a low-profile supersonic cruise missile with 10 Hiroshimas on-board

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It would not. Stop playing computer games already.
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Dear Horatio Canine, you so love to post drunk Russian idiots, but you can't answer to my questions on how those dirty Ivans were the first to the orbit and won the Space Race. How come that the States still use our rocket technologies for every step they made to the space? How come the ugly Soviet FREE Khrushchevkas you post here can stand a -40C winter while your barbie houses turn into a World's mockery because of some hurricane? How come???

How those drunk and useless VDS guys were able to spot and kill Amin in 24 hours, while your "brave" SF officers needed years to find out and kill Osama Bin Laden? It's the same country but different century and different equipment. What's wrong with you?

P.S. Even your wife - a mother of your daughter is a dirty drunk Russian whore/prostitute. How come and what's wrong with your head?
My dearest idiot Boris. Hurricanes come in states close to the ocean. Florida, S. Carolina. Warm states. They have no need for -40C insulation. No houses will stand 150 Mph winds. Including your legendary Russian mud huts.
The -40C can be seen in places like Duluth, Minnesota or Fargo, N. Dakota. Plenty of real estate there as well as people living in -40 conditions. I can bet my life savings they are doing 10 times better than you, your mother in law and her alcoholic daughter you married.

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What kind of aggression was that? A NATO ship has a right to be in the international waters. Yes, it can. A fighter-bomber can a same right to be there. Yes, it can! So what;s the question?
the planes & helicopter flew less than 100 feet away & were under the hard deck. If anything would have happened to either of the planes, US would have been handed the blame. It was stupid because, they probably hadn't permission to do this, from their own chiefs
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But I will not give a ruble for it against a low-profile supersonic cruise missile with 10 Hiroshimas on-board
yea, a radar guided gatling gun, that's some cutting edge 70s technology...

still usable against less sophisticated weapons, but it's a tech dead-end, just like hard drives, gasoline powered internal combustion engines, missiles, etc...
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What kind of aggression was that? A NATO ship has a right to be in the international waters. Yes, it can. A fighter-bomber can a same right to be there. Yes, it can! So what;s the question? The "quests" have approached our coast and we have simulated an attack off them. Nobody was killed, right? When the US ship entered our zone of influence it has given us a signal: "hey guys, we are here and we can attack you". We just answered: "even try to think about that". That's a usual military behavior. I really can't see a single problem with that. You ship was "intercepted" in the same maner like your fighter-jets intercept Russian bomber planes in the international airspace near your borders. Once again: what's a problem?



What happened?



Every ship has a defends, but there is no defends against cruise missiles. Especially with tactical nuke warheads because they don't need to make a direct hit. No one country has such a kind of defense (States, Russia, China or whatever). All those lasers, S400, Greyhounds etc are absolutely useless against a cruise missile flying with a super sonic speed at 20 meters. It will hit the target in a half of a second when it will just come into a range. I know some people are playing computer games where all-mighty pew-pew lasers can stop any missile, but the real life is not a game. You can't hit a bullet with another bullet.
Wait, now you're telling me about defenses? And making the leap from drunk ruskies buzzing the deck of a usa ship for Putin to tactical nukes? After you said I'm the pie in the sky dreamer?


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Any missile launched in the Baltic sea would instantly be tracked by half a dozen countries.
It would not. Stop playing computer games already. Nobody can detect a launch of a cruise missile. It's hard to detect even the ICBM launch if its not in the range of observation. You are a private, right? So I'm telling you this "secret" as an officer (a "veteran" as you call it)

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yea, a radar guided gatling gun, that's some cutting edge 70s technology...

still usable against less sophisticated weapons, but it's a tech dead-end, just like hard drives, gasoline powered internal combustion engines, missiles, etc...
Get back to your reality son - it's all about 21th century pew-pew lasers and other cool things ;)

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Your Olga looks better today Can you post Svetlana too, BTW?
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Can't see Olga there. Have you blew her and put under the bed?
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It's hard to detect even the ICBM launch if its not in the range of observation. You are a private, right? So I'm telling you this "secret" as the officer
so the big secret to military strategy only known to ruskie gfy officer is you have to see an object to detect an object.

thanks captain obvious!

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so the big secret to military strategy only known to ruskie gfy officer is you have to see an object to detect an object.
Yes, that's a big-big secret. Don't tell it anyone. I'm your...

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It doesn't matter if I speak it... The only question if Olga does speak it (umm, does she speak at all?) when you put your member out of her month
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It doesn't matter if I speak it... The only question if Olga does speak it (umm, does she speak at all?) when you put your member out of her month
Oh my god, this really hurts my e-feelings



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So now it with Svetlana and all your family at the background? Is your daughter on the first picture? Am I right? Ugly but doesn't seem to be on meth like your mom. Thanks for sharing anyways

Hope you have enough of those to by your daily vodka:

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It would not. Stop playing computer games already. Nobody can detect a launch of a cruise missile. It's hard to detect even the ICBM launch if its not in the range of observation.
You don't seem to know much about the military. They had this technology since the 1960s:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missil...e_Alarm_System

They know days in advance before North Korea does a "test" and they can follow it every step of the way. LOL - the United States was able to find your lost K-129 submarine underwater in 1974.

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You seem to have no working knowledge of how the military works at all.
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You don't seem to know much about the military. They had this technology since the 1960s:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missil...e_Alarm_System

They know days in advance before North Korea does a "test" and they can follow it every step of the way. LOL - the United States was able to find your lost K-129 submarine underwater in 1974.



You seem to have no working knowledge of how the military works at all.
Boris is no officer. He's in "reserves". Military obligation is mandatory in Russia, so he got his training in college then went in to training as "low ranking officer".. Traces back to WW2 when cadets or anybody else with college degree was granted "officer" status. He wouldn't know how to reload rile if you paid him a hundie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserv...ning_in_Russia

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All able-bodied male students of universities and many other institutions of higher education were subject to training at the Military Chairs (voyennnaya kafedra) to become reservist officers.

Soviet military academies provided higher education to higher officers and officers of specialized kinds of armed force (engineering, medical, etc.).

There also existed schools for under-officers and sergeants, often part of the draft service for distinguished soldiers, as a step towards the professional military career.

Reservists were subject to periodic training exercises of duration 2-6 weeks once in several years.
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this is absolutely correct. Once built, there is virtually no cost to firing 1000 lasers. This is the direction of the earths defence.

Regarding where the ship was, Rochard was correct in saying it was stupid for the pilots to fly so close, what if there was a problem with the plane, the US Navy would have been blamed, a stupid move considering there's plenty of Russian subs seen way closer than 40miles to the UK, British air force doesn't fly below the hard deck to buzz them
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laws of physics are not looking good for missiles... missiles are physical objects, so there is a limit on how fast you can make them fly, limit on how fast and how many you can produce, store, launch, etc... each one costs a pretty decent chunk of change... their performance will probably improve a bit, but any future gains will likely be modest at best...

lasers on the other hand in theory have unlimited range, unlimited power, speeds many orders of magnitude faster than any missile anyone could even theoretically dream up, unlimited supply of "shots", each one costing virtually nothing.. etc...

so I'll stand by my initial statement, lasers and other "directed energy" weapons are the future...
how are laser shots virtually no cost?
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My dearest idiot Boris. Hurricanes come in states close to the ocean. Florida, S. Carolina. Warm states. They have no need for -40C insulation. No houses will stand 150 Mph winds. Including your legendary Russian mud huts.
The -40C can be seen in places like Duluth, Minnesota or Fargo, N. Dakota. Plenty of real estate there as well as people living in -40 conditions. I can bet my life savings they are doing 10 times better than you, your mother in law and her alcoholic daughter you married.

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I see the resident drunken russian assclown has invaded the thread, stroking his peen to the photos of Putin

if the shit was real, those russkie jets wouldn't even get a chance to get into position, they'd be tracked and shot down long before coming to firing range
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laws of physics are not looking good for missiles... missiles are physical objects, so there is a limit on how fast you can make them fly, limit on how fast and how many you can produce, store, launch, etc... each one costs a pretty decent chunk of change... their performance will probably improve a bit, but any future gains will likely be modest at best...

lasers on the other hand in theory have unlimited range, unlimited power, speeds many orders of magnitude faster than any missile anyone could even theoretically dream up, unlimited supply of "shots", each one costing virtually nothing.. etc...

so I'll stand by my initial statement, lasers and other "directed energy" weapons are the future...
the laws of physics are not looking good for lasers either...range plays a huge role because lasers scatter in the atmosphere, clouds and rain are catastrophic to directed energy...water absorbs it like a mother fucker...

but the main problem is not energy...its power...energy is how much money you have in the bank, power is how fast you can spend it...there is a maximum density of power that thin air can carry...this power will need to be focused on an opaque frequency, that scatters the least in the atmosphere...or at least in an opaque range of frequencies...if it is in a select frequency then it is easier to deflect with specialized mirrors or reflective paint...

they will be good short range weapons against less sophisticated missiles...they will cost a like a mother fucker to develop and will be useless in the navy because they work like shit under water so torpedos and subs raugh at them...in fighter planes they will have limited power because of the limited size of the power source you can put on a plane...

but they will be good for outer space and shit and making money for US gov cronies
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yea, a radar guided gatling gun, that's some cutting edge 70s technology...

still usable against less sophisticated weapons, but it's a tech dead-end, just like hard drives, gasoline powered internal combustion engines, missiles, etc...
did you ever read this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_(short_story)

"Superiority" is a science fiction short story by Arthur C. Clarke, first published in 1951. It depicts an arms race, and shows how the side which is more technologically advanced can be defeated, despite its apparent superiority, because of its own organizational flaws and its willingness to discard old technology without having fully perfected the new. Meanwhile, the enemy steadily built up a far larger arsenal of weapons that while more primitive were also more reliable. The story was at one point required reading for an industrial design course at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.[1]
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the laws of physics are not looking good for lasers either...range plays a huge role because lasers scatter in the atmosphere, clouds and rain are catastrophic to directed energy...water absorbs it like a mother fucker...

but the main problem is not energy...its power...energy is how much money you have in the bank, power is how fast you can spend it...there is a maximum density of power that thin air can carry...this power will need to be focused on an opaque frequency, that scatters the least in the atmosphere...or at least in an opaque range of frequencies...if it is in a select frequency then it is easier to deflect with specialized mirrors or reflective paint...

they will be good short range weapons against less sophisticated missiles...they will cost a like a mother fucker to develop and will be useless in the navy because they work like shit under water so torpedos and subs raugh at them...in fighter planes they will have limited power because of the limited size of the power source you can put on a plane...

but they will be good for outer space and shit and making money for US gov cronies
Serbs will come on top

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no the disappearing US middle class will

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Have something against the Ukraine (only a complete idiot can't see their colors on the crashed plane)? That was a very dramatic story, actually.

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You don't seem to know much about the military. They had this technology since the 1960s:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missil...e_Alarm_System

They know days in advance before North Korea does a "test" and they can follow it every step of the way. LOL - the United States was able to find your lost K-129 submarine underwater in 1974.

You seem to have no working knowledge of how the military works at all.
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How do you know that there was no radar lock and this was just a game of chicken show?

Talk about gullible, LMAO.
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the laws of physics are not looking good for lasers either...range plays a huge role because lasers scatter in the atmosphere, clouds and rain are catastrophic to directed energy...water absorbs it like a mother fucker...
Exactly. Lasers are pretty cool for some Star Wars-like pew-pew movies, but they are pretty useless in the real life. The local GFY scientists don't learn physics (it's just considered as anti-God science in the US schools) and they have no idea that Rayleigh scattering is. Unfortunately, lasers work in the real world and they can't ignore the physical laws which say that the extinction coefficient is proportional to the fourth power of the wavelength, and nothing you can do to change that... But our American friends don't care about such a nonsense like physics - thy have Batman, Superman and... (a drum-roll here) him:





P.S. We also had projects like this, this, this, this or that but they are pretty useless (have a very low range of usability) because of... those nasty physical laws ;)
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oh well, fuck those russian pilots, the lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep.

russia is a has been, militarily speaking, the US could park our ships off thier coasts and knock anything out of the air or water that left their perimeter. they know this, thats why they are starting to try to keep us out of their "sphere".

america would make russia its bitch in a 1:1 conflict, direct or indirect.
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oh well, fuck those russian pilots, the lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep.

russia is a has been, militarily speaking, the US could park our ships off thier coasts and knock anything out of the air or water that left their perimeter. they know this, thats why they are starting to try to keep us out of their "sphere".

america would make russia its bitch in a 1:1 conflict, direct or indirect.
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russia is a has been, militarily speaking, the US could park our ships off thier coasts and knock anything out of the air or water that left their perimeter. they know this, thats why they are starting to try to keep us out of their "sphere".
them US boats do not do well when hit by a tsunami caused by a nuclear bomb do they?...the debate is still open whether the 1883 krakatoa explosion caused a super sonic tsunami, but I am willing to bet that your entire fleet and all them waste of money jets do not do well when under water?...

its nice your government keeps telling you that you are #1

it probably makes you feel better about the crony $$$$ going out of your pocket in to theirs
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joint ruskie-serbian strategic tactical nuclear tsunami assault team meeting.

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Ask Horatio Canine. I believe he won't charge more than a couple of food stamps for them ;)

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