An Iraqi spokesman is on FOX News now

[theking]

...complaining about and condemning the UN, the US and the UK for suspending the "oil for food program" and freezing Iraqi accounts.

[DearAbby]

Kill Him!!!

[SpaceAce]

Originally posted by theking
...complaining about and condemning the UN, the US and the UK for suspending the "oil for food program" and freezing Iraqi accounts.

How dare we not feed them.

SpaceAce

[pr0]

halla halla halla halla akbar halla halla halla hibbidy jibbidy

and thats what i think about that

[rooster]

spaceace, shove your civillian death count counter up your asshole. Do you really believe iraq would tell the truth about anything.

The coalition has been waging this war as clean as possible. We could be carpet bombing etc instead of all this precision shit.

[XSpider]

Originally posted by rooster
spaceace, shove your civillian death count counter up your asshole. Do you really believe iraq would tell the truth about anything.

The coalition has been waging this war as clean as possible. We could be carpet bombing etc instead of all this precision shit.

I for one do NOT believe one fucking word the Iraqi governement states, but i also doubt what the US governement states, they have done some cover ups themselves, but then again, every "modern" governement has a history of such things. For the US people outhere, i am not against your governement or against the war itself, just pointing out that we all have our politicians trying to scratch our own backs. One thing is for sure though...... Sadam has alot of dead people on his CV. And please people don't start asking me about providing proove that the US governement also had and has had it's own "twisted truths"... i'd be able to give you atleast one though that happened a few years ago.

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by rooster
spaceace, shove your civillian death count counter up your asshole. Do you really believe iraq would tell the truth about anything.

The coalition has been waging this war as clean as possible. We could be carpet bombing etc instead of all this precision shit.

http://news.lycos.com/news/photo.asp...photoId=293509

Winning over the people one by one. Im sure they love us.

That was some amazing precision. They nailed that right ankle pretty damn good.

[rooster]

you need a bullet to the head fag

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by rooster
you need a bullet to the head fag

I win.

[.:Frog:.]

Originally posted by SpaceAce


How dare we not feed them.

SpaceAce

what is Iraq thinking, they should give their oil away for free.
LOL

[ServerGenius]

What does precision weapons mean when they have a 1 mile radius of total destruction? Throw that on a city and what´s
the difference than just randomly dropping bombs?

DynaMite

[ServerGenius]

Oh b.t.w. I just read a nice article about casualties at the side
of the allied forces. It seems that 19 from the 25 UK casualties
where killed by US friendly fire......is that a good score?

DynaMite

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by rooster
you need a bullet to the head fag

At least your safe of such an injury ......

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by DynaSpain
Oh b.t.w. I just read a nice article about casualties at the side
of the allied forces. It seems that 19 from the 25 UK casualties
where killed by US friendly fire......is that a good score?

DynaMite

The British just killed a couple of their own from tanks.

[XSpider]

Originally posted by DynaSpain
What does precision weapons mean when they have a 1 mile radius of total destruction? Throw that on a city and what´s
the difference than just randomly dropping bombs?

DynaMite

There is a difference between a GPS guided rocket that can hit a military target and "dumb" bombs that they need to throw 10 to hit that same target.

[Interlude]

Originally posted by DynaSpain
Oh b.t.w. I just read a nice article about casualties at the side
of the allied forces. It seems that 19 from the 25 UK casualties
where killed by US friendly fire......is that a good score?

DynaMite

Source?

[Honeyslut]

Originally posted by [Labret]


http://news.lycos.com/news/photo.asp...photoId=293509

Winning over the people one by one. Im sure they love us.

That was some amazing precision. They nailed that right ankle pretty damn good.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ea/war_rdp_262

[rooster]

Originally posted by [Labret]


I win.

Yea, moron of the year award. The only people that agree with anything you say are those that hate america or leftist whackjobs.

[ServerGenius]

Originally posted by Interlude
Source?

Got mine from a Dutch Newspaper.....I forgot to mention it also
includes the accidents with the choppers....the article above
also mentions a tally of casualties...allthough the numbers differ
slightly

DynaMite

[ChrisH]

Originally posted by DynaSpain
What does precision weapons mean when they have a 1 mile radius of total destruction? Throw that on a city and what´s
the difference than just randomly dropping bombs?

DynaMite

Would you mind pointing out what bomb that was droped that had a one mile radius of destruction.

Or would you prefer to keep making things up as you go along?

[theking]

Originally posted by ChrisH


Would you mind pointing out what bomb that was droped that had a one mile radius of destruction.

Or would you prefer to keep making things up as you go along?

You are correct Chris. Not even the recently tested MOAB has a killing radius of 1 mile (a few hundred yards). The only weapon that does is a nuke. When one doesn't know the facts then just make up shit is the rule of thumb for the America bashers.

[ServerGenius]

Originally posted by ChrisH


Would you mind pointing out what bomb that was droped that had a one mile radius of destruction.

Or would you prefer to keep making things up as you go along?

The 1 mile radius was used as a figure of speech.....go look at
some of the photos to see the destruction. Yes the bombings
are precisive but around the buildings that get hit are houses
of civilians and they DO get destroyed aswell.

Houses get vanished and windows get blown out from virtually
every building in the street.

DynaMite

[ServerGenius]

And before you start pissing about that it´s impossible to win
this war without civilian casualties.....that I know. I was only
referring to the irony that comes with "Precision" Bombing.

DynaMite

[ServerGenius]

Originally posted by theking


You are correct Chris. Not even the recently tested MOAB has a killing radius of 1 mile (a few hundred yards). The only weapon that does is a nuke. When one doesn't know the facts then just make up shit is the rule of thumb for the America bashers.

As another rule of thumb is that whoever questions or dissagrees
with anything done/produced by the US is called a US-basher
right ?

DynaMite

[theking]

Originally posted by DynaSpain


As another rule of thumb is that whoever questions or dissagrees
with anything done/produced by the US is called a US-basher
right ?

DynaMite

No, that is not right. It is easy to discern the bashers from the stated others.

[ChrisH]

Originally posted by DynaSpain


The 1 mile radius was used as a figure of speech.....go look at
some of the photos to see the destruction. Yes the bombings
are precisive but around the buildings that get hit are houses
of civilians and they DO get destroyed aswell.

Houses get vanished and windows get blown out from virtually
every building in the street.

DynaMite

DS,
Who's fault is it that hospitals, homes, and mosques are next to millitary installations?
From my vantage point the US, UK, and Aussies are doing everything humanly possible to not target civilians.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by ChrisH


DS,
Who's fault is it that hospitals, homes, and mosques are next to millitary installations?
From my vantage point the US, UK, and Aussies are doing everything humanly possible to not target civilians.

You mean like when they don't return fire because the Iraqi soldiers have civilians marching in front of them as human shields?

[ServerGenius]

Originally posted by ChrisH


DS,
Who's fault is it that hospitals, homes, and mosques are next to millitary installations?
From my vantage point the US, UK, and Aussies are doing everything humanly possible to not target civilians.

It doesn´t matter who´s fault it is, it´s a fact....and I think the
US/UK are not only bombing military targets only. Government
buildings are also on the hitlist.

Besides I didn´t question the fact that the allied forces tried to
be as cuatious as possible.....I know they do and so far they
seem to do that amazingly well. But the term precision raises
a question if you look at some of the pics.

DynaMite

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by rooster



Yea, moron of the year award. The only people that agree with anything you say are those that hate america or leftist whackjobs.

So that means the only people that disagree with me are right leaning conservative sheep?

bummer.

[Sarah_Jayne]

Labret...I don't had out compliments around here all that often but you rock. Don't always agree with you but it is nice to read comments from someone who has a viable thought process.

[Gemini]

Dyna,,, you need to listen to the news a little harder... there are two flaws with your bombing comments.

First, the majority of the buildings being bombed, are in fact, all in one area of the city... which does NOT have homes, apartments etc there. The secert police headquarters wasocated there and the civilians do their utmost to stay as far from them as they can. Saddam built that whole area as a tribute to himself, and filled it with palaces and ministries etc etc which ARE all viable governmental targets. Who said we were NOT going to remove those? The US didn't, all along the plan has been broadcast to remove ALL signs of Saddams governemt to show the people we want HIM and his regime, not them.

Second, the majority of the munitions being used close by where civilians are located (Even alot where they are NOT) are burrowing missiles and bombs. The blow UNDER the ground so blow UP, not sideways. A lot harder to do serious damage to other structures when they are 30 feet under the ground. If we were trying to just bomb those buildings with surface bombs (injuring civilians and destroying their homes etc anyways) why would we pay millions for those smart bombs when we could just carpet bomb and get the same results? Make any sense?

[ServerGenius]

Originally posted by Gemini
Dyna,,, you need to listen to the news a little harder... there are two flaws with your bombing comments.

First, the majority of the buildings being bombed, are in fact, all in one area of the city... which does NOT have homes, apartments etc there. The secert police headquarters wasocated there and the civilians do their utmost to stay as far from them as they can. Saddam built that whole area as a tribute to himself, and filled it with palaces and ministries etc etc which ARE all viable governmental targets. Who said we were NOT going to remove those? The US didn't, all along the plan has been broadcast to remove ALL signs of Saddams governemt to show the people we want HIM and his regime, not them.

Second, the majority of the munitions being used close by where civilians are located (Even alot where they are NOT) are burrowing missiles and bombs. The blow UNDER the ground so blow UP, not sideways. A lot harder to do serious damage to other structures when they are 30 feet under the ground. If we were trying to just bomb those buildings with surface bombs (injuring civilians and destroying their homes etc anyways) why would we pay millions for those smart bombs when we could just carpet bomb and get the same results? Make any sense?

I "listened" quite good to the pictures that are shown by many
different sources of media and unless I have a problem with my
eyes it´s quite obvious that quite a number houses are being
trashed by these precision bombardments.

DynaMite

[rooster]

Originally posted by [Labret]


So that means the only people that disagree with me are right leaning conservative sheep?

bummer.

Oh, back to this game again. Anyone with a conservative thought is a sheep, and fence sitters that stand for nothing like you are on some higher plane of consciousness?


In the coming days when more Iraqis will get to talk about their experiences under Sadaam, people like you will look like an even bigger idiot.


People die in war. American soldiers are dying. We have seen the images of the soliders that were most likely executed.

Thousands of american soldiers died defeating the nazis. Sacrafice goes both ways.

[theking]

Originally posted by DynaSpain


I "listened" quite good to the pictures that are shown by many
different sources of media and unless I have a problem with my
eyes it´s quite obvious that quite a number houses are being
trashed by these precision bombardments.

DynaMite

"Dumb" bombs means dropping a bomb which may, or may not, take out the intended target and may take out an un-intended target far from the intended target. Using dumb bombs usually means using multiple bombs ie. carpet bombing either, on a large scale, or mini scale, or multiple bombing runs. Precison bombing using "smart" bombs means taking out the intended target with a single bomb and does not mean that it will not also take out surrounding buildings over x radius. In order to discuss weapon systems one needs to have an understanding of those weapon systems.

[Fletch XXX]

They have some they can trigger depending on what floor of the building they choose, meaning after coming through the ceiling they could explode it on the 5th floor, or on the 2nd, most of the time going through it fully and bringing the entire building down depending on the size.

thats kinda neat, if targetting certain peoples office in buildings.

dont know how precise it is though.

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by rooster



Oh, back to this game again. Anyone with a conservative thought is a sheep, and fence sitters that stand for nothing like you are on some higher plane of consciousness?


In the coming days when more Iraqis will get to talk about their experiences under Sadaam, people like you will look like an even bigger idiot.


People die in war. American soldiers are dying. We have seen the images of the soliders that were most likely executed.

Thousands of american soldiers died defeating the nazis. Sacrafice goes both ways.

Oh I see. You have confused me for someone who gives a rats ass.

Thank you for only further proving my point. To you, anyone who expresses discontent about the state of the nation is automatically a tree hugging communist. People like you are the enemy. I could care less if Saddam gets captured and tortured, I could care less if we carpet bombed half the country. People are not my concern. Human beings are a plague, anything that thins the herd is a good thing.

Its people like you who cannot see beyond black and white that are the problem, my problem.

My enemy is ignorance. Blind ignorant fake patriotism in this instance. And anything I can do to point out how you are your ilk are nothing more than human sheep is my only mission. You do not think for yourself and that is a crime against humanity. A crime for which I sincerely hope you pay with your life. 3000 people died on 9-11 because of people like you. You have forfeited what it is to be a human being. You are a puppet, a fucking mouthpiece. I am pro nobody and anti everyone. The world is not black and white to me. Your fundamental inability to see beyond the inside of your ass is why you classify me a lefty. Calling me a lefty only proves you know absolutely nothing. You are a kneejerker and watching you dance around when someone points out your ignorance brings me joy.

You people try and pigeonhole me all the time and its a joke. One minute I am a fascist, one minute I am a nazi for my hatred of fanatical zionism, the next minute I am right leaning ass because I despise affirmative action, and you call me a lefty. You throw around your buzzwords because you do not know any better. Ignorance plain and simple.

So keep towing the party line sheep. Ignorance is bliss, and you are proof positive.

You are a joke. You only exist to entertain me. And you do a damn good job. So dance monkey dance, let me hear what you got.

[ServerGenius]

Originally posted by theking


"Dumb" bombs means dropping a bomb which may, or may not, take out the intended target and may take out an un-intended target far from the intended target. Using dumb bombs usually means using multiple bombs ie. carpet bombing either, on a large scale, or mini scale, or multiple bombing runs. Precison bombing using "smart" bombs means taking out the intended target with a single bomb and does not mean that it will not also take out surrounding buildings over x radius. In order to discuss weapon systems one needs to have an understanding of those weapon systems.

Thanks for that info.....but I do know the difference. You people
look for too much in my post. My post about the "Precision" stuff
was only intended as an ironic referral to the term precission.

Apart from the fact that even with the precision bombardments
houses suffer collateral damage.

DynaMite

[Alex From San Diego]

Nothing is 100% precise but atleast the US and the coalition forces are trying to minimize civilian casualties under the circumstances. It isn't the coalition forces fault that Sadam and his cowardly troops use civilians and non military or gov't buildings as shields.

For example, what the fuck is a tank and Iraqi troops doing in a hospital? That is about as fucked up as you can get.

Being prior military (Special Operations), I can assure you no American soldier wants to see civilians injured much less a small child with her foot blown off but this is war and you can only do with what is presented to you.

It is no secret that Sadam wants to draw us into Baghdad for an urban war. The outcome will be grim for both sides to include civilian casualties as well but the outcome will be the that the US and coalition forces will inevitably prevail in overthrowing that regime.

The only thing I can hope for is the least amount of US and coalition casualties to include Iraqi civilians and a swift death to all individuals that support and fight under that regime Sadam created.

[ronbotx]

Originally posted by theking
...complaining about and condemning the UN, the US and the UK for suspending the "oil for food program" and freezing Iraqi accounts.

Boo.. fucking.. hoo....