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Old 03-23-2003, 07:28 PM   #1
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To the US Haters - Why don't you find a worthwhile cause?

Why don't you find a worthwhile cause to channel your energies?
Like finding a solution to starvation and disease
I know that you're concerned about your First Ammendment rights
But don't you burn our flag to make your point, that's just not right
If you think you're better off in a different country
Why don't you pack your bags right now
Here's your ticket
It's on me

I've been around this whole wide world and found no better place
And no one's gonna start a fire in my homeland's face
We have a tendency to take our freedom for granted
We have some problems, yes I know
Look at the seed you've planted

I know that you're aching to be heard
What gives you the famous final word?
To think that your opinion is preferred
What gives you the famous final word?

What other country do you know that pays you without work?
When you need some money, see your welfare officer
There's a lot of other things that you could take a stand about
So you and your activists can take the next train out

I know that you're aching to be heard
What gives you the famous final word?
To think that your opinion is preferred
What gives you the famous final word?

Freedom of speech out of hand
Demonstations in the land
If you complain a little more
What rights you have left
Go flying out the door

Why don't you find a worthwhile cause to channel your energies?
Like finding a solution to starvation and disease
With all the problems in this world that are facing us today
We need a concentrated push or in the long run we'll all pay

I know that you're aching to be heard
What gives you the famous final word?
To think that your opinion is preferred
What gives you the famous final word?

--Metal Church, "The Final Word"

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im waiting for the retaliation attacks to begin
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Old 03-23-2003, 07:31 PM   #3
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I don't like the USA
George W. Bush is fucking gay
Carrie, you are a total bore
Suck my dick you tranny whore

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Old 03-23-2003, 07:33 PM   #6
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I don't like the USA
George W. Bush is fucking gay
Carrie, you are a total bore
Suck my dick you tranny whore


I'm not into poetry much, but that's fucking beautiful.
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Old 03-23-2003, 07:34 PM   #7
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LMAO
Exactly the level of intelligent response I expected - thanks for confirming my suspicions!
Back to Dr. Seuss for you
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Old 03-23-2003, 07:35 PM   #8
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Like finding a solution to starvation and disease
Why don't Americans work on find a solution for starvation and disease instead of meddling in the socio-political affairs of other countries (not just Iraq)?

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What other country do you know that pays you without work?
When you need some money, see your welfare officer
Canada has welfare as well. And why is welfare a good thing? It gets abused which in turn raises the taxes of working citizens.
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Old 03-23-2003, 07:35 PM   #9
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LMAO
Exactly the level of intelligent response I expected - thanks for confirming my suspicions!
Back to Dr. Seuss for you
I'll take Dr. Seuss over cliched war rhetoric anyday.

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Old 03-23-2003, 07:36 PM   #10
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Exactly the level of intelligent response I expected - thanks for confirming my suspicions!
Back to Dr. Seuss for you
The thread got the reply it deserved.
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LMAO
Exactly the level of intelligent response I expected - thanks for confirming my suspicions!
Back to Dr. Seuss for you
You posted the lyrics of a 80s hair metal band.

You expected an intelligent response to that?

I am sure I can dredge up some Poison or Cinderalla lyrics if thats the level of response you are looking for.

Let me acid wash my jeans and perm my mullet first.
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Old 03-23-2003, 07:37 PM   #12
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the us owns all of you.
If they rest of the world decided to attack the US, you would be eaten for breakfast.

That's the bottom line.
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Yeppers, the lyrics of an 80's band. Does that make them any less true?
Please do acid-wash your jeans and perm your mullet... too many buzz cuts and baggy ass-pants around these days! ;)
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I'll take Dr. Seuss over cliched war rhetoric anyday.

I will not eat green eggs and ham
Unless of course I was with Saddam

I will not eat them when readying GFY
I will not eat them while the insults fly
I will not eat them while sitting on a boat
I will not eat them while Carrie fucks a goat

I will not eat green eggs and ham
I would only eat them with Saddam.
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Old 03-23-2003, 07:47 PM   #16
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If they rest of the world decided to attack the US, you would be eaten for breakfast.

That's the bottom line.
Joe I know this is what you most fervently wish for, maybe one day you'll get your wish.
Hope you like speaking Chinese, because try as she might, Australia will not become the next world superpower.
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Yeppers, the lyrics of an 80's band. Does that make them any less true?
I love it when people say "Yeppers".
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You posted the lyrics of a 80s hair metal band.

You expected an intelligent response to that?

I am sure I can dredge up some Poison or Cinderalla lyrics if thats the level of response you are looking for.

Let me acid wash my jeans and perm my mullet first.

We are scanning the scene
in the city tonight
We are looking for you
to start up a fight
There is an evil feeling
in our brains
But it is nothing new
you know it drives us insane


Running,
On our way
Hiding,
You will pay
Dying,
One thousand deaths
Running,
On our way
Hiding,
You will pay
Dying,
One thousand deaths
Searching,
Seek and Destroy
Searching,
Seek and Destroy
Searching,
Seek and Destroy
Searching,
Seek and Destroy


There is no escape
and that is for sure
This is the end we won't take any more
Say goodbye
to the world you live in
You have always been taking
but now you're giving


Running,
On our way
Hiding,
You will pay
Dying,
One thousand deaths
Running,
On our way
Hiding,
You will pay
Dying,
One thousand deaths
Searching,
Seek and Destroy
Searching,
Seek and Destroy
Searching,
Seek and Destroy
Searching,
Seek and Destroy


Our brains are on fire
with the feeling to kill
And it will not go away
until our dreams are fulfilled
There is only one thing
on our minds
Don't try running away
`cause you're the one we will find


Running,
On our way
Hiding,
You will pay
Dying,
One thousand deaths
Running,
On our way
Hiding,
You will pay
Dying,
One thousand deaths
Searching,
Seek and Destroy
Searching,
Seek and Destroy
Searching,
Seek and Destroy
Searching,
Seek and Destroy

--Metallica "Seek And Destroy"
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Joe I know this is what you most fervently wish for, maybe one day you'll get your wish.
Hope you like speaking Chinese, because try as she might, Australia will not become the next world superpower.
We know that, and we don't care. We certainly don't "try" to become a superpower. How could we with just 19 million people?

Yawn... Australians know its all about lifestyle. It's as good as it gets down here.... and that's they way we like it.
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Eyeballs for breakfast
Jack off for lunch
I'd like you better if you had a fucking cunt

Let's fuck!

I'm made of rubber
You're made of glue
I wanna stick my fucking cock inside of you

Let's fuck!

I am the best fucking fuck in the whole USA
I can fuck you to death, I can fuck you to stay
I am the best fucking fuck in the whole fucking world
Dog eat dog, boy eat girl
I'm the duke of fucking earl

Let's fuck!

Old enough to bleed
Old enough to breed
Old enough to pee
Then she's old enough for me

Let's fuck!

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Here is a view that the world needs to adopt..

Humankind.....

Not nationality...

In any of your countries what would your government or police do to a serial killer? Mass murderer?

What is the punishment for those crimes in your countries?

How would you feel if you opened your door in a small town "where ever" and most all of your neighbors are laying on the streets dead.. Gased...

When will HUMANS stop the "stay in your own yard bullshit"...

Would you call the cops on a neighbor if he was beating the shit out of his wife and kids?


This war is the same god damn principle on the highest degree... What amazes me is this "Mind your own business" mind frame. Everyone that breaths is a neighbor....

Because its their culture to mistreat women, ethnic cultures, religions.. Does that justify it as OK? If the US is so fucking bad.. Why do we have the highest immigration rate of any country in the world?

The Iraqi people do not have the means to defend themselves... The Afgan people didn't have the means to protect themselves....

Did you all see the footage of the soldier ripping down the poster of Saddam? Did you see the Iraqi come up and pound Saddam's face with the sole of his shoe? In their traditions and cultures thats a great insult...

If they are so happy with Saddam why would people be cheering? Why would any people be cheering? How would these people call for help if they needed it? Saddam's sons control both the Military and the media... With that combination... How would you call for help?


Christ their soccer team was beaten and bloodied for losing a game.... How can any of you sleep at night saying they deserve to maintain this regime? Why is it wrong for offering people a chance to be a people for the people by the people....


Humankind... Not American.. Not French,,,, Not Iraqi......

Protect yourselves.. We are protecting ourselves...

Protect your brothers and sister humans...


-shakes head-


The Kurdish people could be any one of you if Saddam was allowed to continue.....

Only the ignorant can argue that.,...



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The Kurdish people could be any one of you if Saddam was allowed to continue.....

Only the ignorant can argue that.,...
And yet the US work together with Turkey, who aren't exactly the friendliest nation in the world towards the Kurdish people either.
Funny thing, hypocrisy.
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We flex our power
cause we can.
When countries need help
we are the plan.

But yet the world hates us
Yes in deed.
So lets cut these hoes off
so their countries will bleed.

So pull out their flags and
begin to burn them.
For the world hates us so
Lets just say FUCK 'EM!
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I'll take Dr. Seuss over cliched war rhetoric anyday.

funny you bring that up.

Dr Seuss war doing war cartoons before he was drawing kids books.

http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/dspolitic/

many of his drawings are solely based on war.

the easiest to recognize is the sneetches with the stars and the sneetches without stars, clear connection between the germans and jews.

yurtle the turtle was originally drawn with hitler mustache.

i did a paper on this part of geisels life in college.

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And yet the US work together with Turkey, who aren't exactly the friendliest nation in the world towards the Kurdish people either.
Funny thing, hypocrisy.
Get it correct first.. Turkey's "Kurdish" population is the concern.. Their's is a civil war.... As a matter of fact Turkey has been warned to NOT enter Iraq and we are starting to station troops in the North as a buffer...

Turkey doesn't want the Kurds to claim a state of their own... IE break away from Iraq.....

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Get it correct first.. Turkey's "Kurdish" population is the concern.. Their's is a civil war.... As a matter of fact Turkey has been warned to NOT enter Iraq and we are starting to station troops in the North as a buffer...

Turkey doesn't want the Kurds to claim a state of their own... IE break away from Iraq.....

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We know that, and we don't care. We certainly don't "try" to become a superpower. How could we with just 19 million people?

Yawn... Australians know its all about lifestyle. It's as good as it gets down here.... and that's they way we like it.
I agree, it looks fucking fantastic down there.
If the Chinese go along with their plans and succeed a few years down the road, you'd be looking at an incredibly different lifestyle.

My point is: You hate the US *so* much, but have you even bothered to look at the alternatives? And to hit home - how much your personal lifestyle would change if, as you wished, the US were not the world's superpower?
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I agree, it looks fucking fantastic down there.
If the Chinese go along with their plans and succeed a few years down the road, you'd be looking at an incredibly different lifestyle.

My point is: You hate the US *so* much, but have you even bothered to look at the alternatives? And to hit home - how much your personal lifestyle would change if, as you wished, the US were not the world's superpower?
I hate many things your government does, yes. Many of these things impact my country and my life. I will continue to voice my opinion about what I think is wrong and what I think is right.

I'd like to see another powerful country keep you in check that's for sure. If it's China then so be it. A world run by just one superpower is a frightening thing... even (or maybe especially) if that superpower is the USA. This world needs checks and balances. We can't let ANY bully run rampant.
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I would argue with you, but since you even failed to understand what I was saying, there is little point.
I did.. My point was that you have no clue what you were talking about... You made a vague ball park point..

Yet you didn't take the time to muse or answer any of my questions...

Yours is the typical turn the page and lay the blame mentality...

Now off with you so someone who has an iq over 2 digits can use your bandwidth...

Although its amazing what you can do with a cantaloupe and some electrical current...

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A world run by just one superpower is a frightening thing... even (or maybe especially) if that superpower is the USA.


Why "especially" if it's the USA?

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This world needs checks and balances. We can't let ANY bully run rampant.
Which is the reasoning behind entry into Iraq.
You speak out so much about this war, but echo the exact sentiments that are behind the US' motives.
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Which is the reasoning behind entry into Iraq.
You speak out so much about this war, but echo the exact sentiments that are behind the US' motives.
Saddam is a second rate tinpot dictator who's a threat to nobody but his own citizens and his immediate neighbours.

The real bully is the USA. Are you really that blinded by nationalism and waving flags that you can't see why most of the rest of the world sees your country as a greedy, agressive bully?

Maybe you need to go live in another country for a while?

I suspect, although i may be wrong, that you have not actually done any extensive travel.
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You say you live in Australia - Why don't you leave your house for a minute and enjoy it? There has to be more to do there than post on a internet board
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Saddam is a second rate tinpot dictator who's a threat to nobody but his own citizens and his immediate neighbours.
yeah the 800k or so that hes killed already, LOL!

dont ask for a link, whats his name already posted it, i forget it now though. it was a legit news source though, so just know.
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You say you live in Australia - Why don't you leave your house for a minute and enjoy it? There has to be more to do there than post on a internet board
I'm leaving in 5 minutes.

But I will return.

Bwahahaahahahaahahahahahaha!
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You responded to my comment, but failed to answer my question.

Why "especially" the USA?


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Saddam is a second rate tinpot dictator who's a threat to nobody but his own citizens and his immediate neighbours.
And this is all right with you? The fact that he gases hundreds of his own people, does mass executions, raping etc is okay by you?
Being a threat to his neighbors, when he does *this* to his own people, is all right with you?
We should just leave him alone?
If he'll do this to his own people, think of what he'd do to his neighbors.
By your reasoning though, this is of no matter - we should just leave him alone and only worry about him when/if he gets to be the size of... what, the USA?

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The real bully is the USA. Are you really that blinded by nationalism and waving flags that you can't see why most of the rest of the world sees your country as a greedy, agressive bully?
We're going in to take out a murderous raping dictator and his regime, and we're the bully.
No, I really *can't* see why the rest of the world views us as a bully for doing that. Explain it to me. The alternative is to allow his actions to continue threatening both his own people and his neighbors - at least, until he can launch those SCUDS that he didn't have yet launched at the troops on the Kuwait border a little further - and we are supposed to just sit back and accept the alternative?

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Maybe you need to go live in another country for a while?
If I do, would I become suddenly enlightened as to why a murderous dictator and his regime is the good guy worthy of world protests and the country that destroys that regime and frees the people is the "bully"?
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Old 03-23-2003, 09:00 PM   #39
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Here in Canada all the people are against Bush and most of the people here in Canada hates americans who are for Bush that's not a fucking joke and around the world more and more people each day are becoming us haters yeah that's a fact..

And you american people that are crying because US prisoners are in Iraq well fuck off i have no pity for them they started the war they get what they deserve and if Bush is enough crazy to think that if he sends 300 000 guys no one will get killed well two words ha ha!!

Also guess what americans : North Korea has nuclear weapons does they will attack them too lmfao I can't wait to see it..

Only US citizens who are innocent are paying for Mr Bush. September 11th 2001 is the biggest proof. Even if the americans wins the war in Iraq there is going to be more terrorists acts in the usa like 9/11.

Maybe one day a lot of countries are going to attack USA on their own soil they will know what the war is really is.
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Old 03-23-2003, 09:01 PM   #40
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calling everyone who disagrees with Bush a US hater is like me calling you a fascist tool of a corrupt unelected regime who's too dense to realize she's just parroting whatever the govt says.

that wouldn't be very nice now would it?
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because it would be completely untrue dig
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Old 03-23-2003, 09:15 PM   #42
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Originally posted by Carrie
And this is all right with you? The fact that he gases hundreds of his own people, does mass executions, raping etc is okay by you?
Being a threat to his neighbors, when he does *this* to his own people, is all right with you?
We should just leave him alone?
If he'll do this to his own people, think of what he'd do to his neighbors.
By your reasoning though, this is of no matter - we should just leave him alone and only worry about him when/if he gets to be the size of... what, the USA?

The reason people bitch about this is because we have never given a shit. Guess what, we still don't. Iraqi freedom is one of the excuses Bush is giving to induce world and local support. Although many in the world do not agree with Saddam they don't see it as our place to go over there and worry about it.

Also, if we start attacking countries because of what they "might" do later the US would not last long. Are we going to go after Korea next? Then who? Are you ready to have REAL WORKING WMD'S lobbed at the USA anytime soon? When a leader of a country manages to piss off 3/4ths of the world you can believe people are going to have something to say about it.



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We're going in to take out a murderous raping dictator and his regime, and we're the bully.
No, I really *can't* see why the rest of the world views us as a bully for doing that. Explain it to me. The alternative is to allow his actions to continue threatening both his own people and his neighbors - at least, until he can launch those SCUDS that he didn't have yet launched at the troops on the Kuwait border a little further - and we are supposed to just sit back and accept the alternative?

Again, the majority of the world does not think it's our place to handle this. If we went around attacking everybody that we don't agree with there wouldn't be a world for long. How many countries do you think we could attack on the same premise? Do you realize this is the first time a country has been attacked for what they might do? Of course it pisses off the world and Bush continues to rub more and more in their face. This isn't good for world relations and it may prove to be a huge mistake in the years to come although it probably wont. If our President had sold this idea a little better you might not see the public outcry you do now. If you don't think the USA is a bully I would like to know your definition. We are shooting at guys with guns strapped to pickup trucks with fighter jets and big ass bombs. We are telling their troops that if they follow their countries orders we will prosecute them as war criminals. How do you think the US would react if Saddam said the same thing to us. Do you think the US would allow our captured soldiers to be put to death because they followed Bush's orders. Anyway, I'll quit talking now but I can't understand how you are suprised in the least at the opposition to this war.
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