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blackmonsters 01-28-2016 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20713850)
Only a low life calls people racist just because they don't agree with you!

Only a racist calls people low life for pointing out the obvious facts in America.
America is racist; it always has been.
Why do you even bother to argue that it's not?

It's like you never read a history book and think MLK just walked around a lot because he was restless.

:1orglaugh

Vendzilla 01-28-2016 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20713920)
Only a racist calls people low life for pointing out the obvious facts in America.
America is racist; it always has been.
Why do you even bother to argue that it's not?

It's like you never read a history book and think MLK just walked around a lot because he was restless.

:1orglaugh


I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character


So here you are, judging people by the color of their skin. According to you all white people are racist. You're an ignorant fuck!

Vendzilla 01-28-2016 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20713891)
Fourteen million new people?

Huh?


Population of the US in 2009 was 306.8

right now it's 322.9 Population Clock

So it's actually more, 16.1 million.

so Under Obama, 8.7 new jobs, 16.1 million more people

Shows that the new jobs are not keeping up with the increase in population
And why we have the lowest workforce participation rate since president Carter
Workforce Participation rate when Obama took office in the middle of a recession was 65.7 and currently stands at 62.6

Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And why the unemployment rate is complete bull shit!

and it gets worse

The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment

EDITORIAL: Obama's unemployment rate lies exposed by reality - Washington Times

blackmonsters 01-28-2016 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20713925)
I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character


So here you are, judging people by the color of their skin. According to you all white people are racist. You're an ignorant fuck!

STFU, you don't celebrate MLK day; you sit around angry thinking a nigga beat you at something because you have a paid day off of work.

:1orglaugh

crockett 01-28-2016 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20713833)
The truth is that 8 million jobs have been created under Obama , yet there are 14 million new people, do the math, more people are out of work now than when he started.
That's where the Workforce Participation rate comes in.
And Obama started with a 3 million job deficit.

Obama been damn busy fathering 14 million babies. No wonder so many black kids don't have daddy at home. Obama just can't be everywhere you know.. cut the brother some slack..

crockett 01-28-2016 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20713929)
STFU, you don't celebrate MLK day; you sit around angry thinking a nigga beat you at something because you have a paid day off of work.

:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

onwebcam 01-28-2016 07:40 PM

Everything he has done will be undone within this year or shortly thereafter. The pumped up stock market and economy is already unraveling. I'm reading articles of tens of thousand job layoffs daily. The largest insurers are bailing on obamacare, etc etc.. The Obama bubble is over. Get prepared now.

slapass 01-28-2016 08:20 PM

I forgot Bin Laden.

Homeless - Are you guys nuts? There were tent camps around the country when he took over. Right where I live they had taken over the park. It might not be getting better or has slipped back but over the 8 years the trend is WAY better.

Unemployment is way down. This is the base number. Jobless claims is at some 30 year low. Employment as a % of population is less good and we know that is because baby boomers are retiring. That is going to get worse and no one can change that.

GDP Growth - I agree it is less robust then anyone would like.

Rochard 01-28-2016 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20713502)
LOL< you weren't looking

L.A. council declares shelter crisis in effort to help the homeless - LA Times
L.A. council declares shelter crisis in effort to help the homeless

The rest of what you said is opinion and worthless if you think it's ok that there is a homeless because it was there when Bush was in office, that doesn't make it OK.

And? So because you see homeless people in the street so Obama has failed?

There is always homeless people. Always. I remember homeless people as a kid in NYC. That was nearly forty years ago. Nothing has changed; There will always be homeless people in large cities. Always.

Rochard 01-28-2016 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20713927)
Population of the US in 2009 was 306.8

right now it's 322.9 Population Clock

So it's actually more, 16.1 million.

so Under Obama, 8.7 new jobs, 16.1 million more people

Shows that the new jobs are not keeping up with the increase in population
And why we have the lowest workforce participation rate since president Carter
Workforce Participation rate when Obama took office in the middle of a recession was 65.7 and currently stands at 62.6

Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And why the unemployment rate is complete bull shit!

and it gets worse

The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment

EDITORIAL: Obama&#39;s unemployment rate lies exposed by reality - Washington Times

You are telling me that the population in the United States has increased by fourteen million people and yet our employment rate - no matter what version of the unemployment rate you are using - has dropped to levels not seen since 2003.... Isn't that even more impressive?

Nah, you must be correct. The United States unemployment rate must be one of the most tracked numbers across the country, if not around the world. But it must be wrong and must be bullshit.

mikesouth 01-28-2016 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20713865)
LOL, you're blaming the republicans for Obamacare, seriously? Funniest thing I have heard today!

Ya know some times you really should keep your mouth shut and not prove what a moron you are

If it werent for your republican butt buddies obamacare would not have passed, truth is its a rebublican design...Romneycare

Im sure this will do nothing but work you up but hey its worth it...nothing like a moron on a rampage going off on things he "learned" from Sean Hannity LOL

Yanks_Todd 01-29-2016 05:39 AM

How are there republicans on this board?

Seriously in the early 2000s Ashcroft was going to crush this business. Had it not been for 9/11 he would have. Half the Republican field would love to still if elected. Including the number 2 in the polls Cruz.

Socially how can anybody here be conservative? We are all fine with Gay Rights and Weed right? Is it the gun issue?

Like seriously I don't get it when I see people support politicians that would be happy if their job, company and everything they have ever done was wiped off the face of the planet.

I am fairly fiscally conservative, however once again the scale tips completely to the democrats when the other side would be happy destroy my business, not just tax it.

All politicians suck, but it takes a special backwards logic to vote for someone who is more or less your natural enemy. Seriously confused.

Barry-xlovecam 01-29-2016 07:00 AM

I am doing just fucking fine -- sorry some of you are not.

I have survived under every president since Kennedy (that I can remember). The worst years were from 1970 - 1984 -- both Republicans and Democrats were controlling things so there is no point in my mind of idiocy depending on party politics.

Kennedy = 7 (but he didn't live to see a second term)
Johnson = 6.5 (the Civil Rights Act and Medicaid were his saving grace -- the Vietnam War the nightmare he made)
Nixon =2 (total fuckup and a criminal liar and sociopath)
Ford =0 (bumped into walls for a year)
Carter =3 ( good man, truthful but not worldly, BTW he has a very high IQ)
Reagan =3 (gutted the US economy until 1983)
Bush I = 5 (was more realistic about economics than Regan was)
Clinton =8 (understood the digital economy's potential -- I finally made some money and got ahead :thumbsup + he got a BJ in his office :0D )
Little Bush II =1 (total disgrace -- he gets a one because I made out on the Bonus depreciation he got enacted)
Obama = 7
  • Obama got us almost out of the economic hole Little Bush II dug for us.
  • However, an illusionary economy was created to try and undo hardship so there is going to be a price to be paid.
  • I don't have an issue with Obamacare.
  • His standoffishness on the ME conflict is probably justified in retrospect of events.
I have almost tripled the assets I had when Obama was first elected and reduced my debt to -0- but I don't really credit Obama for this -- most of my money was made outside of the USA. I am a small time global player. Today's economy is a world economy and not your father's USA ...

Adapt or die

Rochard 01-29-2016 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20714001)

If it werent for your republican butt buddies obamacare would not have passed, truth is its a rebublican design...Romneycare

This is where politics comes in - This was a Republican idea, Romneycare, and was already in place. The Democrats took this idea and expanded on it and made it nationwide. The only reason the Republican party fought it is because it became a Democrat bill.

Now instead of fixing it, they've wasted the past four years trying to kill it. It's obviously working - more people have healthcare then ever before - so let's try to fix what is not working.

CaptainHowdy 01-29-2016 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20714252)
I am doing just fucking fine -- sorry some of you are not.

I have survived under every president since Kennedy (that I can remember). The worst years were from 1970 - 1984 -- both Republicans and Democrats were controlling things so there is no point in my mind of idiocy depending on party politics.

Kennedy = 7 (but he didn't live to see a second term)
Johnson = 6.5 (the Civil Rights Act and Medicaid were his saving grace -- the Vietnam War the nightmare he made)
Nixon =2 (total fuckup and a criminal liar and sociopath)
Ford =0 (bumped into walls for a year)
Carter =3 ( good man, truthful but not worldly, BTW he has a very high IQ)
Reagan =3 (gutted the US economy until 1983)
Bush I = 5 (was more realistic about economics than Regan was)
Clinton =8 (understood the digital economy's potential -- I finally made some money and got ahead :thumbsup + he got a BJ in his office :0D )
Little Bush II =1 (total disgrace -- he gets a one because I made out on the Bonus depreciation he got enacted)
Obama = 7
  • Obama got us almost out of the economic hole Little Bush II dug for us.
  • However, an illusionary economy was created to try and undo hardship so there is going to be a price to be paid.
  • I don't have an issue with Obamacare.
  • His standoffishness on the ME conflict is probably justified in retrospect of events.
I have almost tripled the assets I had when Obama was first elected and reduced my debt to -0- but I don't really credit Obama for this -- most of my money was made outside of the USA. I am a small time global player. Today's economy is a world economy and not your father's USA ...

Adapt or die

http://www.birkajazz.com/graphics2/c...eBlueTrain.jpg

Vendzilla 01-29-2016 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20713991)
You are telling me that the population in the United States has increased by fourteen million people and yet our employment rate - no matter what version of the unemployment rate you are using - has dropped to levels not seen since 2003.... Isn't that even more impressive?

Nah, you must be correct. The United States unemployment rate must be one of the most tracked numbers across the country, if not around the world. But it must be wrong and must be bullshit.

You have no concept for math, the unemployment rate has just been proven that it means nothing because it's only tracks for 4 weeks, yet you deny the math

Vendzilla 01-29-2016 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20714001)
Ya know some times you really should keep your mouth shut and not prove what a moron you are

If it werent for your republican butt buddies obamacare would not have passed, truth is its a rebublican design...Romneycare

Im sure this will do nothing but work you up but hey its worth it...nothing like a moron on a rampage going off on things he "learned" from Sean Hannity LOL

You're an idiot, how can you say a bill with 1990 pages is the same as Romneycares bill that had 70, I guess liberals have no concept of math

I don't watch Hannity, guess you watch MSNBC like all the other morons and believe what the government tells you, fucking sheeple!

Vendzilla 01-29-2016 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20714297)
This is where politics comes in - This was a Republican idea, Romneycare, and was already in place. The Democrats took this idea and expanded on it and made it nationwide. The only reason the Republican party fought it is because it became a Democrat bill.

Now instead of fixing it, they've wasted the past four years trying to kill it. It's obviously working - more people have healthcare then ever before - so let's try to fix what is not working.

You agree it needs fixing? That would imply it's broke!

Vendzilla 01-29-2016 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20714252)
I am doing just fucking fine -- sorry some of you are not.

I have survived under every president since Kennedy (that I can remember). The worst years were from 1970 - 1984 -- both Republicans and Democrats were controlling things so there is no point in my mind of idiocy depending on party politics.

Kennedy = 7 (but he didn't live to see a second term)
Johnson = 6.5 (the Civil Rights Act and Medicaid were his saving grace -- the Vietnam War the nightmare he made)
Nixon =2 (total fuckup and a criminal liar and sociopath)
Ford =0 (bumped into walls for a year)
Carter =3 ( good man, truthful but not worldly, BTW he has a very high IQ)
Reagan =3 (gutted the US economy until 1983)
Bush I = 5 (was more realistic about economics than Regan was)
Clinton =8 (understood the digital economy's potential -- I finally made some money and got ahead :thumbsup + he got a BJ in his office :0D )
Little Bush II =1 (total disgrace -- he gets a one because I made out on the Bonus depreciation he got enacted)
Obama = 7
  • Obama got us almost out of the economic hole Little Bush II dug for us.
  • However, an illusionary economy was created to try and undo hardship so there is going to be a price to be paid.
  • I don't have an issue with Obamacare.
  • His standoffishness on the ME conflict is probably justified in retrospect of events.
I have almost tripled the assets I had when Obama was first elected and reduced my debt to -0- but I don't really credit Obama for this -- most of my money was made outside of the USA. I am a small time global player. Today's economy is a world economy and not your father's USA ...

Adapt or die

Of course Carter had a high IQ, he was a submariner

Best-In-BC 01-29-2016 01:00 PM

Hard for old white men to look in the mirror in the states. But its hard for all Canadians to take a peek.

Tubthumper 01-29-2016 01:02 PM

Someone needs to give Obama a mushroom tattoo on the face.

Vendzilla 01-29-2016 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd (Post 20714221)
How are there republicans on this board?

Seriously in the early 2000s Ashcroft was going to crush this business. Had it not been for 9/11 he would have. Half the Republican field would love to still if elected. Including the number 2 in the polls Cruz.

Socially how can anybody here be conservative? We are all fine with Gay Rights and Weed right? Is it the gun issue?

Like seriously I don't get it when I see people support politicians that would be happy if their job, company and everything they have ever done was wiped off the face of the planet.

I am fairly fiscally conservative, however once again the scale tips completely to the democrats when the other side would be happy destroy my business, not just tax it.

All politicians suck, but it takes a special backwards logic to vote for someone who is more or less your natural enemy. Seriously confused.

I'm not a republican, i just look up the facts and things are not as wonderful as they think it is and when I bring up facts, I get called names from lower life forms!

As far as Gay Rights, Reagan did a lot for gays, he spoke out against the Briggs initiative and with the democrats signed budgets for aids research that grew in size with each years budget during his presidency.

If you look at history, the republican party has done a lot for social issues, it's where the party has headed since Reagan that concerns me. The democrat party says it's out for every one, but get nothing done because of bad leadership or just promise more than they can ever deliver. ( case in point, shovel ready jobs )

In steps Trump, he's not really either a republican or a democrat and is changing the way politics is done, he does it his way and doesn't let the special interest groups tell him what to do, he doesn't let ethnic groups tell him what to do, he doesn't give a fuck about Political Correctness which is something I love about him.

Both political parties are afraid of him right now, because he would fundamentally change the way the government is ran and given the low polls for congress and the lowest overall average approval rating for a president since President Carter, the people are about change.!


You say you think all politicians suck, Trump isn't a politician

astronaut x 01-29-2016 02:10 PM

Obamacare sucks and is a complete failure.

Rochard 01-29-2016 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20714579)
You have no concept for math, the unemployment rate has just been proven that it means nothing because it's only tracks for 4 weeks, yet you deny the math

I don't deny the math. At all. Unemployment peaked in 2009 across all forms, period. And it's dropped to lower than 2003 levels, period.

Rochard 01-29-2016 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20714585)
You agree it needs fixing? That would imply it's broke!

When you get a flat tire you don't replace the entire car, you fix the tire. Obamacare is working and more people than ever before have healthcare.

I could care less about Obamacare. I had healthcare before Obamacare, and I have the same Healthcare now. (I have Kaiser.) More people than ever before in the US have healthcare. Instead of spending all of our time and effort trying to remove it, we need to fix what's wrong with it.

Robbie 01-29-2016 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20714757)
I don't deny the math. At all. Unemployment peaked in 2009 across all forms, period. And it's dropped to lower than 2003 levels, period.

Holy crap...I have you blocked because of the trollish, foolish stuff you constantly write on here.

But man...this is just plain out STUPID.

USE GOOGLE GODDAMNIT!

Type in: "Percentage of WorkForce unemployed"

Just do that Rochard. Don't type anything else. Just DO THAT.

Fucking research shit for just a second instead of acting ignorant about a subject:

"Government data showed that only 63.2 percent of working-age Americans have a job or are looking for one, the lowest proportion since 1978."

That is 36.8% of all working age people are UNEMPLOYED.

And that is the highest number since 1978.

So your entire statement is fucking ridiculous and ignorant.

Damn...lol
Everytime I look at one of your posts thinking "Maybe he's changed and I can go ahead and unblock him"...you post something that just reinforces my reasoning for blocking you in the first place. :(

Vendzilla 01-29-2016 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20714757)
I don't deny the math. At all. Unemployment peaked in 2009 across all forms, period. And it's dropped to lower than 2003 levels, period.

Again, the unemployment rate is a lie, it doesn't accurately measure how many people are out of work. More people are out of work right now than when Obama took office.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20714768)
When you get a flat tire you don't replace the entire car, you fix the tire. Obamacare is working and more people than ever before have healthcare.

I could care less about Obamacare. I had healthcare before Obamacare, and I have the same Healthcare now. (I have Kaiser.) More people than ever before in the US have healthcare. Instead of spending all of our time and effort trying to remove it, we need to fix what's wrong with it.

When I get a flat tire, I get it repaired, but when the tire is fucked up, I replace it

bronco67 01-29-2016 07:56 PM

The way Republicans spin the unemployment rate figures, you'd think they want the economy to be bad. You just know every time there's a good news report on economic growth, they die a little inside because there's no a Republican in the White House.

just like when Bin Laden was killed. It must have been heartbreaking to not have it be president John McCain finish W's job. But he wouldn't have done it, because he'd have us involved in even more military quagmires than we're already neck deep in.

they're just always wrong about everything, and do nothing but fuck shit up to make their rich buddies richer at the expanse of everyone and everything. They're also on the wrong side of history of every social argument. Gays, weed, guns, you name it. They're anti-progressive, which if you ever stop to think about it means the "opposite of progress". They don't want to move forward, they want things to stay the same or revert backwards.

They need to stop trying to be in charge because we've had enough of them. It's been eight years, and it's still not long enough.

So yes, they're assholes.

Robbie 01-29-2016 08:33 PM

bronco67, I clearly linked to the numbers in a post above.

That is not "spinning". There really are 36.8% of the people in the U.S. of age to be in the workforce who are unemployed.

That's not a "spin". That's a fact.

The govt. stopped counting people that aren't looking for work anymore. They did that on purpose to actually "spin" the numbers.

If you want to close your eyes and pretend it's not true...go right ahead. But it IS true.

Use google for yourself and get educated on reality.

mikesouth 01-29-2016 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20714584)
You're an idiot, how can you say a bill with 1990 pages is the same as Romneycares bill that had 70, I guess liberals have no concept of math

I don't watch Hannity, guess you watch MSNBC like all the other morons and believe what the government tells you, fucking sheeple!

As a fisherman it is satisfying to me to bait a big sucker and watch him swallow it hook line and sinker....even moreso when the bait is the truth.

I guess it isn't very fair though....

I will toss this sucker back so he can bite another day....

Robbie 01-29-2016 09:52 PM

Here ya go bronco67...straight from the govt.'s own statistics:

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

There are more workforce age people in the U.S. out of work right now than at any time since 1978 when we were in the middle of a full on depression.

THAT is the truth. The feds changed the way that the unemployment rate is counted. But the numbers you will see at that page I linked to are from the U.S. Bureau Of Labor Statistics.
No way to spin those numbers.

oppoten 01-29-2016 10:22 PM

From a non-American perspective, he didn't live up to the hype. I suspect other world leaders think he's an idiot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass (Post 20713949)
I forgot Bin Laden.

Everyone's forgot al-Qaeda, since ISIS came along. Especially the media.

Maybe their usefulness has expired...

Vendzilla 01-29-2016 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20714958)
As a fisherman it is satisfying to me to bait a big sucker and watch him swallow it hook line and sinker....even moreso when the bait is the truth.

I guess it isn't very fair though....

I will toss this sucker back so he can bite another day....

So you admit you're wrong? OK

Vendzilla 01-29-2016 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20714927)
The way Republicans spin the unemployment rate figures, you'd think they want the economy to be bad. You just know every time there's a good news report on economic growth, they die a little inside because there's no a Republican in the White House.

just like when Bin Laden was killed. It must have been heartbreaking to not have it be president John McCain finish W's job. But he wouldn't have done it, because he'd have us involved in even more military quagmires than we're already neck deep in.

they're just always wrong about everything, and do nothing but fuck shit up to make their rich buddies richer at the expanse of everyone and everything. They're also on the wrong side of history of every social argument. Gays, weed, guns, you name it. They're anti-progressive, which if you ever stop to think about it means the "opposite of progress". They don't want to move forward, they want things to stay the same or revert backwards.

They need to stop trying to be in charge because we've had enough of them. It's been eight years, and it's still not long enough.

So yes, they're assholes.

damn, just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber

Vendzilla 01-29-2016 10:35 PM

I think the sad thing is the liberals are actually in agreement with everything the government and the media tells them.
I love when they base everything on the democrats vs the republicans and disregard fact completely.
Then when they run out of the lines in their playbook, everyone is a racist.

Stuck in a box of thought that many of us threw away years ago!

mikesouth 01-29-2016 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20714973)
So you admit you're wrong? OK

ya you keep tellin yerself that SMFH just when I thought you couldn't possibly be any dumber...just damn dude.

Yanks_Todd 01-29-2016 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20714604)
I'm not a republican, i just look up the facts and things are not as wonderful as they think it is and when I bring up facts, I get called names from lower life forms!

As far as Gay Rights, Reagan did a lot for gays, he spoke out against the Briggs initiative and with the democrats signed budgets for aids research that grew in size with each years budget during his presidency.

If you look at history, the republican party has done a lot for social issues, it's where the party has headed since Reagan that concerns me. The democrat party says it's out for every one, but get nothing done because of bad leadership or just promise more than they can ever deliver. ( case in point, shovel ready jobs )

In steps Trump, he's not really either a republican or a democrat and is changing the way politics is done, he does it his way and doesn't let the special interest groups tell him what to do, he doesn't let ethnic groups tell him what to do, he doesn't give a fuck about Political Correctness which is something I love about him.

Both political parties are afraid of him right now, because he would fundamentally change the way the government is ran and given the low polls for congress and the lowest overall average approval rating for a president since President Carter, the people are about change.!


You say you think all politicians suck, Trump isn't a politician


Thanks. Although I will disagree with you about Trump being a politician. He is very much so at this point. A different one for sure, but still one.

astronaut x 01-30-2016 12:29 AM

Before Obamacare... an individual plan $100-$125 a month, $15 co-pay, $300 deductible.

After Obamacare kicked in... $290 a month, $50 co-pay, $6500 deductible.

Sure, those who still have their same plan before Obamacare kicked in, haven't seen a difference. It is very easy to say, "Its great and its working." Yes, there are more people insured now, because if your not, you pay a 10% percent penalty on your taxable income.

The ONLY good thing about this, is that people who have serious health issues that are going to go over $6500 in medical bills in a year, will see their responsibilities capped. Then there are those who have pre-existing conditions who couldn't get covered before, can now get coverage, and won't get dropped.

However there is still a huge demographic of people that are getting royally screwed by this. Miss the deadlines? Your fucked. Because the plans that are left over for those who miss deadlines, still have clause against pre-existing conditions, where you will NOT get covered, and if even if you somehow do get on one of those plans, there is about 20 pages of shit that will not pay for, which covers, or should I say does NOT cover, just about everything.

Obamacare has created a new demographic of people who still cannot afford health coverage, where they could have before it kicked in.

astronaut x 01-30-2016 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20714977)
I think the sad thing is the liberals are actually in agreement with everything the government and the media tells them.
I love when they base everything on the democrats vs the republicans and disregard fact completely.
Then when they run out of the lines in their playbook, everyone is a racist.

Stuck in a box of thought that many of us threw away years ago!

Believing that makes you part of the problem, and also makes you no different than the people you are pointing the finger at. When in reality, there are people on both sides of the fence that exist like that.

Then there are those who think for themselves and actually don't fall in line with every talking point that hard liners expect them to. Those people also exist on both sides of the fence.

PornDiscounts-V 01-30-2016 02:01 AM

Homeless: some people cannot care for themselves. The vast majority of homeless are that way because they gave up on themselves. Turned to alcohol and or drugs.

Health care. I have a buddy. He paid $178 per month for insurance. He bitched about Obama care making it go to $195. I told him to go get me a statement from January for the past four years. He came back and they said;

$142
$164
$178
$195

So his health care was increasing before obama care and always has been. It's called inflation.


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