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Heckler and Koch fans rejoice! H&K company has been listening to you. A Document received by TFB, dated a week ago, show that Heckler & Koch GmbH (Germany) applied to Germany?s Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) to sell a semi-automatic version of the famous H&K MP5K and H&K MP5SD on the civilian market. The application was approved by the Police with some caveats. The new guns are called the HK SP5k and HK SC5SD. Exclusive: H&K Semi-Automatic HK SP5k (MP5K) and HK SC5SD (MP5SD) - The Firearm Blog |
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Are you like Rochard, who believes that the M16 and AR15 are the same shit?
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No part. They are semi-auto version of the MP5 |
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"The HK SD Semi-Automatic Rifle is the full-time suppressed version of the MP5 submachine gun. It includes the SD-style forearm, retractable stock and integral compensator. The HK MP5 SD Semi-Automatic Rifle in .22 L.R. is manufactured exclusively by Walther under license from HK. It is the only genuine HK tactical rimfire replica available in the world. Caliber - .22 Long Rifle Mag Capacity - 25 rnds Weight w/out Mag - 5.9 lbs Overall Length - 26.8–33.8 in Barrel Length - 16.1 in Barrel Twist - 1 in 13-3/4 in Grooves - 6 Operation - Blowback Front Sight - Interchangeable Posts Rear Sight - Adjustable Wind & Elevation" Semi Auto Rifles for Sale - Buy Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com |
Best case scenerio... take away the guns from the ones that want us to give up ours.
No more armed security for the parasitical elite. Let's see if they last more than 30 minutes. In Fact, the ONLY gun restriction should be on anybody and everybody that has ties to the federal government :2 cents: |
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Dude, I'm tapping out of this conversation. You just don't get it. Do you know what, "HK MP5 SD 22LR" stands for? It stands for .22 long rifle...it's a modified version -- A FUCKING REPLICA of an MP5. This is copied from the description YOU pasted: "It is the only genuine HK tactical rimfire replica available in the world. " -- and it's made by Walther, not HK. Jesus man, are you even reading this shit or just seeing the headline and copy/pasting it? |
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"The HK MP5 SD Semi-Automatic Rifle in .22 L.R. is manufactured exclusively by Walther under license from HK" So the HK MP5 SD is not an MP5, even though that is what the manufacturer calls it under license from HK? LOL ok |
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Oh, here's a gun dealer that is selling a semi-auto MP5...a firearm that allegedly does not exist LOL
https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/ima...ct/umerxhk.jpg https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/com....html?Itemid=0 |
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After modifications (most notably the relocation of the charging handle from under the carrying handle to the rear of the receiver), the redesigned rifle was adopted by the United States military as the M16 rifle. In 1963, Colt started selling the semi-automatic version of the M16 rifle as the Colt AR-15 for civilian use and the term has been used to refer to semiautomatic-only versions of the rifle since then. |
This argument over an mp5 can't possibly be real...
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It's a common tactic used to shift away from the fact that many States require no background check whatsoever for private party gun sales at gun shows. Instead of discussing that issue, they want to get into a pedantic argument as to firearm nomenclature...and they are often wrong about that too as evinced in this thread. |
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If it's the same, why do they call it something different? If something is a different version... it's not the same. Jesus... fuck... you guys make my fucking head hurt. It's like talking to a pigeon. |
Oh here's another hypo that would work at gun shows in Nevada and some other states:
Criminal: Gee I would love to buy that Sig Sauer P320 from you. But you are a licensed gun dealer right? And to buy from you I would need to go through a background check right? I don't want to do all that. Licensed gun dealer: Yes that is correct. But don't worry, if you don't want to go through a background check, you can still buy some of my guns that are in my "personal collection". These guns are not part of my business inventory, so you are not required to go through a background check to buy these guns right over here ...as long as I have no knowledge that you can't legally own guns (wink wink). |
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I'm not a gun dealer. But if I was, I could do what I just mentioned in the hypo. |
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And pretty damned expensive. |
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Ok it's perfectly fine for you to have that belief. I simply posted a hypothetical scenario, and the Nevada/Federal law governing that scenario. Nothing in the Nevada or Federal law prohibits that hypo from legally occurring. |
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Did you grow up thinking Pro Wings were really Reeboks, too? :helpme |
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"Another interesting angle to the ?gun show loophole? is the fact that some FFL dealers will sell their personal guns at the gun show, along with the guns of their business. The Federal Firearms License is a business license, and all guns acquired and sold by the FFL holder must be logged in and out of their ledger. This ledger must be exact and the FFL holder or business is subject at any time to random inspections by the ATF to ensure that their ledger is being correctly updated and kept up. At the gun show, a FFL dealer will have the guns of his business on display for sale -these guns are on his books and they are in his custody under his license as a FFL dealer. While he?s selling the guns of his business at the gun show, he may also sell his private collection on the side -acting as a private citizen. I?ve seen it several times where I was looking at a vender?s guns that he had for sale and when I was interested in buying it, he?d say ?well that gun is actually my own property, not on my books, and if you want that gun there is no background check because that is handled as a federal private party transfer. The rest of my guns are on my books and for those there of course is the paperwork and background check.? https://americanrifleman.wordpress.c...nd-other-laws/ |
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Hey you're the one that claimed there is no such thing as semi-auto MP5...even after numerous sources contradict your claim. |
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Yup, and here's a semi-automatic HK MP5 that you claim does not exist: https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/ima...t/umerxhk4.jpg https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/ima...t/umerxhk5.jpg https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/com....html?Itemid=0 |
Behold, the semi-automatic HK MP5 that allegedly does not exist according to Rob LOL
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Another thread I stopped reading as soon as I got to the plum colored annoying rambling. |
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Gee, all these people are reviewing a semi-auto HK MP5...something you keep claiming is not an MP5 at all LOL |
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At :22 into the video YOU posted, the reviewer actually says it's a FUCKING KNOCK OFF of a HK MP5! His exact words: "A lot of these, uh, tactical copies, or, you know, simulated to be something else are usually kinda, kinda cheesy and not very well built." - read that again REAL slow. Listen real close to the video if you have to. Let it soak in real good. You've already proven that can't read, and now you can't even listen properly. What part of replica do you not understand? A HK MP5 shoots 9mm rounds. That weapon is made by Walther, an distributed by Umarex and is .22 caliber. I'm seriously done here, this shit is hurting my brain. You need a lot of help with your comprehension skills and I have no patience for idiots. I honestly can't believe I stuck around this long. Go ahead and continue posting links and pictures and video reviews, because it's only cementing the fact that you're a fucking tard. Good day, Chap. :thumbsup |
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Yes I know he said that. He was contrasting other clones against the fully licensed HK MP5 he was reviewing, which he says is well built. H&K fully licensed Walther to manufacture this fire arm and call it an HK MP5....so that's what it is. |
More people selling the semi-auto MP5...a firearm that Rob says does not exist LOL:
"WaltherŪ HK MP5 SD Semi-automatic .22LR Rimfire Rifle. The WaltherŪ HK MP5 SD Semi-automatic Rifle is the full-time suppressed version of the MP5 submachine gun. It includes a SD-style forearm, retractable stock and integrated compensator. So whether you're practicing at the range or plinking at the cabin, the Walther HK MP5 SD offers all the excitement of the original in a cost-effective .22LR platform." Walther HK MP5 SD, Semi-automatic, .22LR, Rimfire, 5780311, 723364201097 - 641331, Semi-Automatic at Sportsman's Guide |
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I said: "The HK MP5 can be purchased in semi-auto config." You replied no that is not possible..that an MP5 by definition is fully automatic. I then provided you with numerous sites indicating that there is indeed an HK MP5 in semi-auto config available to the public. And that's when you got all mad. |
This has gone too far... Let's let the Mp5 thing go. Yay, you found a loophole to argue and squabble about. Odd how you chose to go with the mp5 right off the bat, I assume, knowing that it would bring this argument about.
I personally couldn't care less about an mp5 and it's variations. What I want proof of is this ability to freely sell fully automatic weapons that would otherwise require federal approval. |
if I say Fuck Guns and Fuck American Gun Laws and Gun Lobby, will I be the Libtard of the Thread? :pimp
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You just just ignore the fucking retard and maybe he will leave. Seriously. At this point, it's paininfully obvious that this douchebag just likes to make himself look foolish.
The plum color text should have been all the warning you need. The guy probably has mommy issues and just needs the attention. |
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You're a fucking retard who's too retarded to even see that he's a retard. Wipe the drool and stupid smile from your face. |
Why is a rape kit, kidnaping kit, house breaking kit all are criminal felonies, yet murder kit ( 14 weapons) is not??? America is totally fucked.:mad:
... And BTW I would string up his Aspergers mother... Aspergers my ass !!!! At least in Sandy Hook he killed his bitch mother first... |
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BTW I chose the MP5 in my original hypo because I like that model. |
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Oh here's another hypo that is 100% legal:
Mental defective: Gee that silencer and short barrel rifle sure does look interesting. I wish I could buy those, but I don't want to submit to a background check, fingerprints, or law enforcement approval as required by Federal law. Gun seller: No worries. Just create a "gun trust", name yourself as trustee , and then have the gun trust purchase these weapons. Thus, you will not need to go through a background check or finger prints, because technically, you will not be the individual purchasing or owning these guns. Instead the gun trust you created will be the purchaser/owner. But as the trustee, you will still have full control of these weapons. |
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