As he said - had he been closer than 200 yards away...he may have made a difference and saved lives.

Yes, there were people there with guns. But not within range to do anything.

Quoted for motherfuckin' truth! :thumbsup

The bitch boy iced himself

Oregon college gunman committed suicide, officials say - LA Times

So what you are saying is that you love it when a mass shooting takes place because you claim to profit from it.

Need I say more?

Mr. Donald Trump thinks this

Trump: Arm teachers to stop school massacres - CNNPolitics.com


Donald Trump said Saturday that had teachers been armed at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon, the deadly shooting there this week would not have happened.

As usual Trump is thinking outside of the box and is spot on. :thumbsup

I don't love mass shootings. I love it when the Left talks gun control because my portfolio goes up.

Get lost hater. :pimp:pimp:pimp

I agree, but only a simpleton thinks the remedy to this problem is anti-Constitutional.
Arms doesn't mean anything and everything you want to consider it to be.

Why not let everyone own their own nuclear weapon? I mean, hey, is it not your Constitutional right to bear arms? Where and when do you decide what the limit is?

Am I being unreasonable?

As I have said before, there is nothing wrong with owning weapons for hunting and self defense. I'm not anti-gun and I don't believe most people who want to see something done about the issue is either. There is no need for assault weapons in our society.

People like to hide behind this thought that If civilians are armed with the same assault weapons our police and military use, that somehow that makes them safer from tyranny and government abuse of power. I can assure you, if the government ever wants to take your freedom from you and change the order of things, they have way more highly sophisticated methods at their disposal.

It also doesn't mean the Constitution needs to be altered either.

Of course it doesn't mean any weapon, that and such things like nuclear weapons have already been clarified by the supreme Court over the years.

And not everyone thinks gun ownership is about protection from tyranny, etc. In fact, I'd say most all gin owners own guns for reasons other than that.

Don't try to back peddle and sugar coat what you posted as if there is no correlation to mass shootings and the so-called "leftist" talk about gun control. Personally, I think for myself and have no intention of being a link in the human centipede of talking points from either side.

I wonder how our general psyche would change, if instead of when you google images of the term "mass shooting victims," we didn't see pictures of them at the happy points of their lives, and instead the results were more like a google image search of the term "dead Iraqi children."

I have a gun to protect myself from my fellow wacked-out criminal citizens. Fucking nuts are everywhere.

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Once again I will repeat myself. THE ONLY THING THAT WILL STOP A BAD GUY WITH A GUN IS A GOOD GUY WITH A GUN. You will never be able to prevent gun violence. If a person wants to harm you with a gun I am sure he will get one. IF GUNS ARE OUTLAWED THEN ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE GUNS. Why because they don't care about your liberal constitution banning of guns or any other law that they want to break that is why they are called OUTLAWS.

THE ONLY THING THAT WILL STOP A BAD GUY WITH A GUN IS A GOOD GUY WITH A GUN:thumbsup

I am not saying every one is one boat or the other. There is no need for assault weapons that can inflict mass casualties. Period.

I ask you again, where do you draw the line? At what point in the level of items that pose a danger to society, do you say no? Don't hide behind a Supreme Court decision to try and make a point. I am not literally trying to insult 'you' personally, and this shouldn't be a left or right issue. There is a reason we have laws, and this is exactly the type of situation where we all need to take a step back and re-examine these laws, not to deny anyone of their Constitutional rights, but to use some common sense. People also have the Constitutional right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. You can't be happy if your dead.

You are wrong.

A good guy with a gun can do just as much damage. A guy in Houston was pumping gas, saw a carjacking, pulled out his firearm, shot the victim, and let the bad guys get away.

Man carjacked, witness opens fire at gas station in NE Houston | News - Home

The only thing to prevent a bad guy with a gun is not let him have the gun in the first place.

I agree, and so do I.

I'm not hiding behind an SC ruling. The SC has made some very level-headed explanations of this part of the Constitution and their words and opinions on the matter are worth reading.

and as i mentioned earlier, i'm all for laws that make sense and address the issue. i've yet to see any proof that there is effective and proven legislation that would stop spree shootings. and don't hide behind Australia because most research strongly suggests their draconian gun laws weren't the impetus behind that decrease in gun murders, the researcher suggest it was more a change in social and cultural attitude. there's not even any data to suggest that suicides were lowered, they found a correlation between an increase in hanging suicides and the decrease in gun suicides. those people were going to kill themselves regardless. and a big % of the gun deaths here in USA are suicides.



i'm also not making this a left or right issue. but we certainly don't need to be rushing into willynilly legislation that doesn't work.

Firearms caused 0.44% of deaths in the U.S. in 2014. Tobacco and Alcohol totals 26.2% deaths. Something isn't right with our focus.

There are an estimated 270 to 310 million guns in the US. Almost as many as people. Our boarders allow people, drugs, anything illegal easy entry. In the US there will always be guns available no matter what laws are in place.

Anyone who has ever done a drug deal will find doing a gun deal equally easy should guns become outlawed.

It's criminals and nut-jobs Rochard. Not the pieces of steal.

Don't ever gamble in Vegas. Clearly you don't understand the meaning of "ODDS."

Just like I don't understand your above post.

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Its easy to conceal a bag of drugs, not so easy to conceal an "ASSAULT WEAPON"

Stop using the term "GUNS". Nobody is coming to take your GUNS. Take your assault weapon, yes, there are people that would like to take that. Stop comparing the two, because they are different.

I'm not surprised. You probably couldn't understand your way out of a wet paper bag. Clearly you can't understand your head out of your own ass.

When did the subject of "ASSAULT WEAPONS" come up? This thread was about murders committed by a mentally deranged idiot who owned pistols, a rifle and a shotgun ... "GUNS" ... At the school he had 6 pistols and a rifle. Just like most shootings handguns were involved.

Concealing a hand gun is as easy as a bag of pot and doesn't stink. Breaking down a rifle or shotgun to smaller parts takes seconds.

Why all the hate?

You are not addressing any issue that I have made. You must not be talking to me, because I never once mentioned Australia. Nor did I mention suicide.

I guess the chances of you actually responding to something I said directly is unlikely.

I am an older fellow, but it wasn't that long ago I aced Psychology, Sociology, and American Government. Please, if you would be so kind to indulge me on what the Supreme Court has said about assault weapons. I mean, of course everyone knows there are no lobbyists that try to persuade politicians, or judges for that matter, to allow gun manufacturers to continue to pump out assault weapons.

i don't give 1 single fuck about your issues.

i posted that people who want to trample on the Constitution and pass laws willynilly are weird and you reacted to that. you're the one bringing up nuclear weapons and assault weapons in a thread about a guy who used basic hand guns. so not only do i not give a fuck about your issues, you're trying to drag me into shit that doesn't have jack shit to do with anything combined with your complete lack of knowledge of SC rulings on the 2nd amendment and how it's interpreted in the modern age.

Assault weapon is nothing more than a name anti-gun idiots attached to "scary looking rifles" in order to scare idiots that don't understand firearms enough to form their own opinions or thoughts. The AR in AR-15 does not stand for Assault Rifle. It's short for ArmaLite, the company that first developed the rifle.

You saying that a gun is not an assault weapon or an assault weapon is not a gun is like saying an espresso isn't coffee. Same fucking thing. Now you're just trying to argue semantics. :error

Congrats, you at least got 9 credit hours your freshman year of college. Any further studies other than base 101 non-prerequisite courses? Are you going to tell us how you were boss in humanities next? :thumbsup

:1orglaugh You know jack fucking shit about guns, pal.

Holy fuck you're a loser. :1orglaugh

I just want to say that I have never felt the need to make my posts in a color other than the default.

I'm very aware of the law. I'm also very aware of the no guns signs posted around that campus. Apparently you, and some others, are not.

The bottom line is the campus attempted to make the students believe they were not allowed to carry there.

What about the assholes that think any gun in those photos is an automatic?

That you're ignorant to what an automatic firearm is?

All countries have criminals, insane people, and nut jobs. The difference is we allow them easy access to fire arms.

I also believe the American culture has a lot to do with this also. We have some people in the United States who are gun nuts. Some of these people believe the government is going to come after them, or that we need to defend ourselves from our government, even though there has never been a history of this. Even if you take firearms out of the equation, these people are still downright scary.

Then we hand these people weapons. It's easier (and almost cheaper) to buy a firearm than it is to get a driver's license.

I'm not saying we need to change the Constitution. I'm not saying we need to trample on anyone's rights. We just need a reasonable approach to prevent the wrong people from getting firearms.

Only at the traitors and foreigners who are trying to dismantle America.

Did you even read my post?

The only point I made was the US black market will quickly fill the needs of anyone truly wanting a gun. Criminals and those with premeditated mayhem on their agendas will be inconvenienced at best.

In fact career criminals are already using this method of acquisition since background checks prevent felons from legally purchasing a firearm.

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Ignorant fuck.

Suicides account for most gun deaths | Pew Research Center

How about you stop using the term "assault weapon" as MOST Americans don't own those.

Yet, that college campus has no gun signs posted all over it.

Let's get back to you being an ignorant fuck....

Many more people are dying from gun suicides than gun-related homicides - The Washington Post

Have I mentioned that you're an ignorant fuck?

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The schools security policy was "gun free"

That however contradicts state law allowing permit holders to carry concealed weapons on campus.


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Exactly. :thumbsup