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Old 10-02-2015, 08:07 AM   #101
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There are no automatic weapons in those photos
I thought the same thing. These are the same people that think an AR-15 can shoot 1,000,000 rounds a minute by just holding down the trigger and never changing mags.
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Old 10-02-2015, 08:53 AM   #102
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I thought the same thing. These are the same people that think an AR-15 can shoot 1,000,000 rounds a minute by just holding down the trigger and never changing mags.
I don't think that you fucking moron, and it's wide known that Walmart sold semi-automatic rifles.

In any case I can't care less for your gun problems, I was just trying to point out how bad your gun culture is. Of course this is GFY and there's always an asshole like you or OldJeff who would focus the discussion in anything rather than in what really matters.
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Why you guys posting that assholes picture.
This here is Chris Mintz.
He is a friggin machine. 7 bullets as he charges the fucker and took him down.

Guy deserves some props
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i think there is enough room within the Constitution for this country to implement a gun buy-back program and to create BETTER laws to stop these events. and to keep guns away from minors. was reading a while back that new research show stricter gun laws keep guns away from kids and that would certainly go a long way towards reducing gun suicides and prolly some of the school shootings.

even so, new and better legislation isn't a panacea, there are certainly many other factors. medication, copycat killings due to media glorifying these events. i'd also bet most all thee guys hadn't been laid in quite a while, if ever.

was also reading that feminized pop psychology has made growing up a boy a guilty and punishable offense, that mentality has permeated our education system. so these guys are guilty for being male and given psychotropic drugs to "combat" that.
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This isn't part of "modern society". This is a part of American society, not "modern society". They don't have these issues in other "modern" countries.
Look up the wikipedia page on mass shootings. You'd be surprised at how many have occured in dozens of other "modern" countries around the world in the past 100+ years.
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There's not much else to be said. Except how much money the States pays to fight terrorism.
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I don't think that you fucking moron, and it's wide known that Walmart sold semi-automatic rifles.

In any case I can't care less for your gun problems, I was just trying to point out how bad your gun culture is. Of course this is GFY and there's always an asshole like you or OldJeff who would focus the discussion in anything rather than in what really matters.
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Look up the wikipedia page on mass shootings. You'd be surprised at how many have occured in dozens of other "modern" countries around the world in the past 100+ years.
Yes, let's do that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shooting

Second sentence kind of says it all:

While the U.S. has 5% of the world's population, 31% of public mass shootings occur in the U.S.

Further on down we read....

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In 2015, The Washington Post reported 204 mass shootings occurring in the U.S. in that year alone, according to ShootingTracker.com. In August 2015, the Washington Post reported that the United States was averaging one mass shooting per day.
There are so many mass shootings in the United States that they don't even report most of them. There has been 204 mass shootings in the United States in 2015; How many of them can you name?
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I completely blame the parents. They should be given no less than life in prison.

These nerd punks grow up thinking they are the center of the universe because mommy and daddy cant parent. Then in turn they grow up. Realize no one gives a fuck about them. Especially women. And they cant handle it.

Fucking losers. Kids need to be taught THEY AINT SHIT unless they earn it.

Anyone who makes this a gun thing is a complete fucking idiot.
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There are no automatic weapons in those photos
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Not at all, not a single one of those guns, nor any other that has every existed has killed anyone, ever, in history.

And you said AUTOMATIC
There are definitely automatic guns in this picture. What you two are arguing about is "fully-automatic".. There are plenty of semi-automatic guns in that picture.

Regardless of either of your points... stick to what matters rather than bickering about trivial horseshit just for the sake of thumbing each others' noses.
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I completely blame the parents. They should be given no less than life in prison.

These nerd punks grow up thinking they are the center of the universe because mommy and daddy cant parent. Then in turn they grow up. Realize no one gives a fuck about them. Especially women. And they cant handle it.

Fucking losers. Kids need to be taught THEY AINT SHIT unless they earn it.

Anyone who makes this a gun thing is a complete fucking idiot.


A jury in Seattle found Ray Fryberg Jr. guilty on Tuesday on six counts of unlawful possession of firearms. The decision comes nearly a year after his son, Jaylen, used one of those guns to kill four friends and himself in the Marysville-Pilchuck High School cafeteria, the deadliest high school shooting in a decade.

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Actually we have waaay less crime than you guys but we have the 2nd highest gun rate/person in the world right after the USA. Switzerland is 3rd.

The last mass shooting we had was probably in the 90-s where 4 criminals were killed by another criminal. The biggest school shooting I can find is 2 people who took football ticket from this kid and the kid went home for a gun and killed just the 2 guys and nobody else.

Rape is 20-40 times less than in the USA and the entire region around us has roughly the same stats.
We had 100 murders total last year.
This year will be a record breaking violent year we will approach 150 total.
We have a total of 0 gangs. There is no part of any city that belongs to any gang.

The Swiss have a bit less crime than we do. The entire region has roughly the same statistics but only Serbia and Switzerland have a high gun rate.
I'm Canadian so no you don't have less crime.
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It's now a competition. The per incident totals will rise.
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"he was fascinated by the IRA, frustrated by traditional organized religion, tracked other mass shootings and flunked out of US Army basic training"
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what he said about the guy who shot the reporter a couple months back

I have noticed that so many people like [Flanagan] are alone and unknown, yet when they spill a little blood, the whole world knows who they are. A man who was known by no one, is now known by everyone. His face splashed across every screen, his name across the lips of every person on the planet, all in the course of one day. Seems like the more people you kill, the more you’re in the limelight.
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Why you guys posting that assholes picture.
This here is Chris Mintz.
He is a friggin machine. 7 bullets as he charges the fucker and took him down.

Guy deserves some props
yep, heard he was military
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what he said about the guy who shot the reporter a couple months back

I have noticed that so many people like [Flanagan] are alone and unknown, yet when they spill a little blood, the whole world knows who they are. A man who was known by no one, is now known by everyone. His face splashed across every screen, his name across the lips of every person on the planet, all in the course of one day. Seems like the more people you kill, the more you?re in the limelight.
So they get their names splashed on the TV for forty-eight hours and are then forgotten, and they either lost their lives in the process or their asshole will be traded for a pack of smokes in prison for the rest of their lives.
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Of course it's tragedy but what are we talking about? 100 people a year killed in "mass shootings"?

Is that worth tearing up the Constitution over?

If so then let's ban booze and cars too. Then everything will be perfect and nobody will ever die. Ever. It will be a Utopia. We will be Immortal!

Go Obama! 8 more years!
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Of course it's tragedy but what are we talking about? 100 people a year killed in "mass shootings"?

Is that worth tearing up the Constitution over?

If so then let's ban booze and cars too. Then everything will be perfect and nobody will ever die. Ever. It will be a Utopia. We will be Immortal!

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There is nothing in the constitution about semi-automatic weapons.
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I am so sick and damn tired of these self-focused, self-absorbed brats that are so
freaking unhappy that they have to go off and mass kill people so "they" will be heard.
So tragic and senseless and so sad that these miserable minions worship the violent acts
of other equally disturbed individuals. What did they really ever do that improved the
life of even one other person. They are waiting for society to make their world great and
that isn't going to happen - you are responsible for your own happiness.
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There is nothing in the constitution about semi-automatic weapons.
There is nothing in the Constitution about first person shooter video games being protected by the First Ammendment.

What the fuck is your point?
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I completely blame the parents. They should be given no less than life in prison.

Agreed. Just as the Sandy Hook shooters mom was a gun nut turns out this dudes mom bragged on Facebook about her arsenal of guns.

Mom of Oregon shooter bragged about her arsenal of weapons online

Laurel Harper, a nurse who shared an apartment near the Umpqua Community College campus with her troubled 26-year-old son Chris Harper Mercer, boasted on Facebook that she owned a stockpile of handguns and assault rifles, according to vocativ.com.

?And when the mood strikes, and as long as we?re tossing around brand names, I sling an AR, Tek-9 or AK over my shoulder, or holster a Glock 21 (not 22), or one of my other handguns, like the Sig Sauer P226, and walk out the door,? Harper bragged. ?I find the shotguns are a little too cumbersome to open carry.?
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How is Chris a hero? he sounds like a fucking idiot he didn't stop shit but 7 bullets from hitting someone else seriously that has to be the most retarded thing to do. He didn't save any lives and now they have a fucking go fund me page for this guy over 350k raised his sister says for his living expenses etc i'm sure this fool could get on disability just lke this Ribbit Hog guy in the other thread. Where was Chris when women were taking bullets to the head for saying they were Christian. Eh just my good ol opinion carry on
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How is Chris a hero? he sounds like a fucking idiot he didn't stop shit but 7 bullets from hitting someone else seriously that has to be the most retarded thing to do. He didn't save any lives and now they have a fucking go fund me page for this guy over 350k raised his sister says for his living expenses etc i'm sure this fool could get on disability just lke this Ribbit Hog guy in the other thread. Where was Chris when women were taking bullets to the head for saying they were Christian. Eh just my good ol opinion carry on
How can you contradict yourself so many times in one paragraph?..
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How can you contradict yourself so many times in one paragraph?..
All he did was stop 7 bullets my bad i'm sure those 7 bullets saved lives
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How is Chris a hero? he sounds like a fucking idiot he didn't stop shit but 7 bullets from hitting someone else seriously that has to be the most retarded thing to do. He didn't save any lives and now they have a fucking go fund me page for this guy over 350k raised his sister says for his living expenses etc i'm sure this fool could get on disability just lke this Ribbit Hog guy in the other thread. Where was Chris when women were taking bullets to the head for saying they were Christian. Eh just my good ol opinion carry on


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I am so sick and damn tired of these self-focused, self-absorbed brats that are so
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So tragic and senseless and so sad that these miserable minions worship the violent acts
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life of even one other person. They are waiting for society to make their world great and
that isn't going to happen - you are responsible for your own happiness.
I agree with you. You create your own happiness.

I get up on the crack of dawn every morning - I go running, shoot hoops, go for a bike ride, and take my kid to school every morning before 9am. My alarm on my cell phone is "It's a beautiful day" but U2 and I swear to god I cross my ankles every morning and spring out of bed, eager to take on the day.
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"he was fascinated by the IRA, frustrated by traditional organized religion, tracked other mass shootings and flunked out of US Army basic training"
"Former California neighbors of the gunman who killed nine people at an Oregon community college say he was temperamental and ignored people.

The neighbors encountered 26-year-old Christopher Harper-Mercer at an apartment complex in the Los Angeles suburb of Torrance, where he lived with his mother until a few years ago.

Nineteen-year-old Reina Webb told The Associated Press on Friday that he kept to himself, but if he did talk, it would be as if he was having a temper tantrum. She says he often rode a red bicycle.

Another neighbor, Jason Lee, says no one really knew Harper-Mercer because he would ignore people who said hello and just ride on by."


*** So ... 26 years old living with his mother and riding a red bicycle instead of driving a car. Infatuated with violence, flunked out of the Army. The Army dumps you for only two reasons, physical or mental problems.


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THAT college IS a gun free zone. A student may choose to carry but if caught, they face being kicked out and having to go through a legal battle to get back in.


"John Parker Jr., a veteran and student at UCC, spoke with MSNBC and revealed that he was in a campus building with a concealed handgun when the shooting started. He suggested other students with him at the time were also carrying concealed handguns."
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"John Parker Jr., a veteran and student at UCC, spoke with MSNBC and revealed that he was in a campus building with a concealed handgun when the shooting started. He suggested other students with him at the time were also carrying concealed handguns."
then why didn't these idiots do something
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then why didn't these idiots do something
Why are they idiots? Are you suggesting anyone with a concealed carry should run to the sounds of gunfire? THAT would be an idiot.

When I carry a gun it's for self defense not to be Batman and run around stopping crime.
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Why are they idiots? Are you suggesting anyone with a concealed carry should run to the sounds of gunfire? THAT would be an idiot.

When I carry a gun it's for self defense not to be Batman and run around stopping crime.
One guy runs after the said gunmen un armed didn't do shit

I wouldn't say run after the gunmen but if multiple students had guns they could of easily shot him and put him out
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As for chipping away away at the constitution. As far as that's concerned the gun laws today have trashed them.
You rotten toothed Brits gave up your Sovereignty a long, long time ago to those scum of the earth, pedophilic, incestuous, "King and Queen" low life shitbags.

You know ZERO about living within the restraints of our constitution that our forefathers kicked your pathetic, sorry asses for.

I and my family still use that document to stay as free as we can.
AND we stay as far the fuck away from you pathetic, boot licking, sychopant Brits as possible

Eat shit you rotten tooth prick.
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You rotten toothed Brits gave up your Sovereignty a long, long time ago to those scum of the earth, pedophilic, incestuous, "King and Queen" low life shitbags.

You know ZERO about living within the restraints of our constitution that our forefathers kicked your pathetic, sorry asses for.

I and my family still use that document to stay as free as we can.
AND we stay as far the fuck away from you pathetic, boot licking, sychopant Brits as possible

Eat shit you rotten tooth prick.
Tells us how you really feel.
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Old 10-02-2015, 08:17 PM   #137
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One guy runs after the said gunmen un armed didn't do shit

I wouldn't say run after the gunmen but if multiple students had guns they could of easily shot him and put him out
You watch to many movies.
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I completely blame the parents. They should be given no less than life in prison.

These nerd punks grow up thinking they are the center of the universe because mommy and daddy cant parent. Then in turn they grow up. Realize no one gives a fuck about them. Especially women. And they cant handle it.

Fucking losers. Kids need to be taught THEY AINT SHIT unless they earn it.

Anyone who makes this a gun thing is a complete fucking idiot.
Truth. That's the problem now, fucking losers can't handle being nobodies. No drive or hardwork, back in the day if you sucked, you sucked or fixed it or had your ass kicked for crying. Now these nerds just do this crazy shit.
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Tells us how you really feel.
I just did. And you're a Condescending Nimwit.
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THAT college IS a gun free zone. A student may choose to carry but if caught, they face being kicked out and having to go through a legal battle to get back in.


There were literally people there with guns when it went down apparently and it made no difference.
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then why didn't these idiots do something
Because life isn't a shoot 'em up game, he made the right decision.
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Constitution worshippers are weird. Do you hold other texts with outdated passages of social control in high regard too? Like the Bible and Quran?

Shit written hundreds of years ago by the slave owning elite probably shouldn't be held up as infallible.

Just Sayin'
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There is nothing in the Constitution about first person shooter video games being protected by the First Ammendment.

What the fuck is your point?
If you don't see my point, it's senseless to attempt to debate the subject, especially with someone as clueless as yourself. Go back to playing your video games, popping your pimples and jerking your tiny wiener.
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I wonder what Wayne Lapierre of the NRA will say about this...

I bet I can guess correctly.
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I wonder what Wayne Lapierre of the NRA will say about this...

I bet I can guess correctly.
Why should he even comment about a mentally unstable deranged idiot committing a crime?
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Yes, let's do that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shooting

Second sentence kind of says it all:

While the U.S. has 5% of the world's population, 31% of public mass shootings occur in the U.S.

Further on down we read....



There are so many mass shootings in the United States that they don't even report most of them. There has been 204 mass shootings in the United States in 2015; How many of them can you name?
Yes, that part is obvious, but the other question is why do you avoid the main point of the comment I made? You said "they don't have these kinds of issues in other countries"

That history of mass shootings page shows that you are wrong on that.

Fact is these types of incidents have been happening for a long time, occuring in many countries, not just the USA. One happened right near me back in the late 70's in fact, involving the older brother of a girl I went to school with. Not a 'mass' shooting mind you, but a school shooting (and killing) none the less. I doubt you heard about it either.

There are countries on that list that probably a lot of people wouldn't expect to see there. Sweden, for one.

The U.S. has a larger population than most. More people, generally speaking, almost always = more psychotic assholes prone to planning and executing this kind of crap. While that's true it's also true that as history shows it has and can happen anywhere. You're attempting to use it's unusually high fequency in your country to underline your usual argument of "See? guns are bad", completely ignoring the actual root of the problem, that being not the weapon of choice but the psychosis that drives a certain number of people to act out in this manner.

Does anyone believe that had guns in that state been outright banned this particular guy would have turned his in? I don't.
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If you don't see my point, it's senseless to attempt to debate the subject, especially with someone as clueless as yourself. Go back to playing your video games, popping your pimples and jerking your tiny wiener.


Oh you got me! Nice try zilch.

I bought more SWHC on Friday. My cost basis is $9 so you anti-gun bitches are putting money in my pocket. Keep it up!
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Yes, that part is obvious, but the other question is why do you avoid the main point of the comment I made? You said "they don't have these kinds of issues in other countries"

That history of mass shootings page shows that you are wrong on that.

Fact is these types of incidents have been happening for a long time, occuring in many countries, not just the USA. One happened right near me back in the late 70's in fact, involving the older brother of a girl I went to school with. Not a 'mass' shooting mind you, but a school shooting (and killing) none the less. I doubt you heard about it either.

There are countries on that list that probably a lot of people wouldn't expect to see there. Sweden, for one.

The U.S. has a larger population than most. More people, generally speaking, almost always = more psychotic assholes prone to planning and executing this kind of crap. While that's true it's also true that as history shows it has and can happen anywhere. You're attempting to use it's unusually high fequency in your country to underline your usual argument of "See? guns are bad", completely ignoring the actual root of the problem, that being not the weapon of choice but the psychosis that drives a certain number of people to act out in this manner.

Does anyone believe that had guns in that state been outright banned this particular guy would have turned his in? I don't.
You are right. These mass shootings happen in other countries. And when they do, they pass stricter gun laws, which end up resulting in less deaths.

One third of all mass shootings happen in one country. Guess which one.

Let's just talk about Homicide deaths. Again, let's use Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate

The United States comes in at 13th, with 10.64 firearm deaths per 100k citizens. Canada has 2.22 deaths per 100k citizens; That's one tenth of what we have in the United States. Italy and Germany have half of what Canada has with 1.12 and 1.24 respectively.

I'm sorry, no matter how you spin this, we have a huge problem here.
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People that want to trample all over the Constitution and give up their personal freedoms willynilly are weird.
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