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Old 03-17-2003, 06:40 AM   #1
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Europeans WTF is wrong with you?

You europeans are willing to beat the shit out of eachother over a soccer match BUT you dont want to fight to remove a Murderous Dictator like sadam

I dont get it

someone please explain this
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Old 03-17-2003, 06:42 AM   #2
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Don't stereotype all Europeans dude, some are willing to fight, some others do not. It's easy to stereotype people, for instance I could call all Moslims complete idiots, which is not true either

At least the Netherlands are willing to fight

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Old 03-17-2003, 06:45 AM   #3
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dude the dutch govt is there YES!!!

BUT over 80% of the EUROPEAN population seems to be against this war due to opinion pols

i dont get it... YES war is bad YES violence is BAD

BUT alot of you seem way to willing to be violent against eachother and NOT the TRUE bad people
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Old 03-17-2003, 06:50 AM   #4
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You europeans are willing to beat the shit out of eachother over a soccer match BUT you dont want to fight to remove a Murderous Dictator like sadam

I dont get it

someone please explain this

We want that oil as much as you do
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"At least the Netherlands are willing to fight"

... like you faught the nazis more than 60 years ago ?
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I'm Dutch, and I'm against the war. Don't blame me please. It was obvious no matter what Saddam did, Bush would attack Iraq...

Problem is there is not a solid coalition, so you have the change when US attacks Iraq without approval, other countries will follow, and then you have bigger problems.

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Old 03-17-2003, 06:53 AM   #8
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We want that oil as much as you do
well lets see If you live in France German or Russia YOU ALREADY HAVE all the Iraqi oil u need at BELOW market price
Hmmm can u say Proping Up a dictator?

Those countries DONT want the USA in IRAQ to find out all the back room deals you guys have been doing with Saddam for YEARS
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You europeans are willing to beat the shit out of eachother over a soccer match BUT you dont want to fight to remove a Murderous Dictator like sadam

I dont get it

someone please explain this
Oh BTW funny you compare these 2 things. I think it explains the IQ you have
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Old 03-17-2003, 06:59 AM   #10
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I'm Dutch, and I'm against the war. Don't blame me please. It was obvious no matter what Saddam did, Bush would attack Iraq...

Problem is there is not a solid coalition, so you have the change when US attacks Iraq without approval, other countries will follow, and then you have bigger problems.

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god LOVE idiots

dude we had a COALITION in the first war of 33+ countries

we have 30+ countries who SUPPORT us NOW

Umm can u say COALITION!!!!

I know you can
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Maybe we are just not so trigger happy as the Americans ? ;)

Maybe we want to make sure we have tried every possible way there is to solve the situation before we go down and kill inocent women and children.

Personally Im all for getting rid of Sadam and his people. But it would be nice to know that we did really try all other options before we start a war.

What I dont really understand is that the USA can just say fuck you to the rest of the world that are against going to war ASAP.

Just my European
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well lets see If you live in France German or Russia YOU ALREADY HAVE all the Iraqi oil u need at BELOW market price

We want more just like you do.
What, you think we give a shit about those muslim pigs?
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Oh BTW funny you compare these 2 things. I think it explains the IQ you have
Nice shot buddy!!!

We declare war each time we have a soccer game!!! how come the US government hasn't send any troops to help us??

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Because we went through TWO world wars here in Europe. We don't want to see another one any time soon.
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Oh BTW funny you compare these 2 things. I think it explains the IQ you have
hows that?

That you are STUPID enough to beat eachothers BRAINS out...

get kicked off of airplanes...

get DEPORTED from countries...

have WATER cannons, and Riot police at almost EVERY match

why

over a SOCCER match???

Ok mr IQ man you must be a BRIT
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Nice shot buddy!!!

We declare war each time we have a soccer game!!! how come the US government hasn't send any troops to help us??

They can't play soccer

Either can Australia, however we beat England (god know how).
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Old 03-17-2003, 07:04 AM   #17
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"At least the Netherlands are willing to fight"

... like you faught the nazis more than 60 years ago ?
Go back to school dude!
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Old 03-17-2003, 07:04 AM   #18
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Because we went through TWO world wars here in Europe. We don't want to see another one any time soon.
Hmm petr

do you know how many AMERICAN service men died in those 2 wars???

Dont tell me about rembering or forgetting

I have FAMILY that DIED on your soil for YOUR freedom

howmany of your countrymen have died for OUR freedom?
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Nice shot buddy!!!

We declare war each time we have a soccer game!!! how come the US government hasn't send any troops to help us??

because we believe that if MORONS want to fight eachother let em

a feww less in the world afterwards

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Being European has nothing to do with being "Saddam-lover".

I'm against war but more than that I'm against this Baghdad fucker. I wish there was a way to get rid of him without killing.
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god LOVE idiots

dude we had a COALITION in the first war of 33+ countries

we have 30+ countries who SUPPORT us NOW

Umm can u say COALITION!!!!

I know you can
The "WE " word....

Name the 30 countries ( not states, countries...)

Then put beside if the population backs it's gov.
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Being European has nothing to do with being "Saddam-lover".
Amen, but this is what brainwashed people like freeme fail to see
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Amen, but this is what brainwashed people like freeme fail to see
OK let me clear this UP

I am FOR a peacefull solution

There is NO peacefull solution to Saddam

I didnt say you were a Saddam Lover

can you please show me where I said that?

I said that you all are WILLING to fight eachother over something a STUPID as a game BUT when it comes to the LIVES of the people under saddams control you could give to shits as long as he keeps the oil flowing to your countries and keeps buy PARTS for weapons from France, Russia, German INSTEAD of useing that money to feed the children in his country

do you know how many Iraqi children die each month from malnutrition?

Do you know how many people he has Murdered just in the last 11 years

did you know he GASSED 4k kurds with Chem weapons in N. Iraq

Talk about Brainwashed You seem like sheep ready to be lead to a slaughter
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Hmm petr

do you know how many AMERICAN service men died in those 2 wars???

Dont tell me about rembering or forgetting

I have FAMILY that DIED on your soil for YOUR freedom

howmany of your countrymen have died for OUR freedom?
Actually, you weren't fighting just for us. You were fighting for yourself too. Remember Japan kicking your ass in Pearl Harbour?

But let me rephrase - how many world wars have you (the USA) seen happening on your soil? None. Actually, except for the civil war you had there were no major wars on your continent. While here in Europe we've had LOTS of bloody wars in the past.

BTW this topic has been discussed so many times I'm getting tired of it
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History repeating its self. 1930-1938

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justsexxx you are right, each to his own. But I what I ment was that the Dutch Goverment is behind the US and the UK.

I am not against the war, but there will be innocents hurt. But if the US doesn't take action Saddam will continue producing bio chemical weapons and soon a lot more will be hurt.

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Hmm petr

do you know how many AMERICAN service men died in those 2 wars???

Dont tell me about rembering or forgetting

I have FAMILY that DIED on your soil for YOUR freedom

howmany of your countrymen have died for OUR freedom?
Yes we have things that we should be thankfull to the Americans fore.

But as fare as I remember the USA did not go in to the WWII before they where attacked them self in Hawaii, and therefore where forced to fight with the rest of the world for their own freedom. And as fare as I know there where a lot of Europeans too that died in the WWII, and you can say that they died for your freedom just as much as the Americans died for our freedom...
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Hmm petr

do you know how many AMERICAN service men died in those 2 wars???

Dont tell me about rembering or forgetting

I have FAMILY that DIED on your soil for YOUR freedom

howmany of your countrymen have died for OUR freedom?
You pussies didn't even get into the war until almost 1942... and it was half over by then. Weren't you thinking about the freedom of the Europeans in 1939, 1940 and 1941?

Cowards!
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Actually, you weren't fighting just for us. You were fighting for yourself too. Remember Japan kicking your ass in Pearl Harbour?

But let me rephrase - how many world wars have you (the USA) seen happening on your soil? None. Actually, except for the civil war you had there were no major wars on your continent. While here in Europe we've had LOTS of bloody wars in the past.

BTW this topic has been discussed so many times I'm getting tired of it
OMG what a TRUE MORON!!!

50,000+ men and women DIED in europe JUST durring WW2 GOO lookin at their GRAVES in Italy, Germany, France, Belgium,
against GERMANY NOT Japan

the Japan war was on the OTHERSIDE of the world from you
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And as fare as I know there where a lot of Europeans too that died in the WWII, and you can say that they died for your freedom just as much as the Americans died for our freedom...
Fighting for THIER OWN COUNTRIES!!!!

we were not in jeapordy of being taken over by either Japan OR Germany So the ONLY reason to be in EUROPE was to LIBERATE U

My great uncle was killed there and is burried there

NOT 1 European is burried here trying to liberate US from anything

Let me correct that Not 1 european since the Revolutionary or Civil wars

we did have europeans fighting then.

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hows that?

That you are STUPID enough to beat eachothers BRAINS out...

get kicked off of airplanes...

get DEPORTED from countries...

have WATER cannons, and Riot police at almost EVERY match

why

over a SOCCER match???

Ok mr IQ man you must be a BRIT
Wow you are a smart guy. You have no idea where you talking about....Hmm actually you are like Bush, maybe that explains. And over the 30 countries, please list them....

Oh and under my nick, Netherlands-->Netherlands NOT GB, just for your info. Although you proberly think Europe is one country
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do you know how many AMERICAN service men died in those 2 wars???
about WW2

http://www.stokesey.demon.co.uk/wwii/casualty.html

about WW1

http://www.geocities.com/~worldwar1/casualty.html
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sounds like freeme is a bit frustrated. Where are you from freeme? I see your girlfriend is a dailer, but I do not see your location.

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freeme: shut the fuck up puppet! I'm tired of these war threads... you're nothing but a CNN brainwashed asshole, so your opinion doesn't count.
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freeme, get some books on history... you have it all screwed up
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sounds like freeme is a bit frustrated. Where are you from freeme? I see your girlfriend is a dailer, but I do not see your location.

Well he acts like he is from US, but the domain is his sig (when it's his) says German.....

Maybe he wants another WW...
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haha, that was funny.

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I am putting the list together for posting shortly

and BTW I did not vote for BUSH nor do I like him

BUT There is no other way to deal with Saddam Unfortunatly we have given him 11 YEARS!!!! and Nada Nothing Zilch Zippo ZERO

what part of that DONT the Euro's understand

doesnt this look EXACTLY like the way you all were just before the Nazi's started rolling through europe.

Heads in the Sand

Hey I am AGAINST WAR!!!!

I have FAMILY and FRIENDS in harms way there and I would much rather have them here

BUT they need to be there

why because NO ONE else will
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Thankyou for showing me that. You have definitely changed my outlooks on both wars !!!

Guys you have to check this out!
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USA 295,000 295,000

died so that all the countries in europe and asia would be free from dictators

hmmmmm
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freeme, stop with this righteous shit.

Your country does what, according to your leaders, is in your interest. So does every other country, including France, Germany and Russia...

Doesn't mean you have to agree with them ofcourse.
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died so that all the countries in europe and asia would be free from dictators

hmmmmm


So where were you in 1939, 1940 and 1941?

Or don't your history books talk about that?
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You pussies didn't even get into the war until almost 1942... and it was half over by then. Weren't you thinking about the freedom of the Europeans in 1939, 1940 and 1941?

Cowards!
Before Pearl Harbor, they were selling arms to both sides: the good old american way.
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do you know how many AMERICAN service men died in those 2 wars???

Most European nations had huge numbers of civilian deaths aswell, that's another reason, if you fight for your country
you understand the risks involved, but when a bomb drops on your house while you're sleeping, that's a bit different.

What is the % in America that doesn't want a war,
isn't it around the 50% mark anyway.

So 50% of America wants a war, and you think the whole world is a c.u.n.t because 5.85 billion people dissagree with the 150 million that do.
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Because Europeans are not brainewashed by CNN and they know that the real reason of the war is OIL and nothing else.
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doesnt this look EXACTLY like the way you all were just before the Nazi's started rolling through europe.

Heads in the Sand
Uhm, If I'm not mistaken England asked for the US to help them against Hitler, but your country was experiencing an economic upturn after the depression, so neither your leaders OR the public wanted to be involved in the war.

You agreed to sell goods to England though, but they had to use their own transports to maintain US neutrality towards Hitler.

Heads in the sand?
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freeme, get some books on history... you have it all screwed up
No point, he can't read. Since when a 3 years old can read....
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Old 03-17-2003, 07:56 AM   #48
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No point, he can't read. Since when a 3 years old can read....
Freeme has left the building!
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Old 03-17-2003, 07:57 AM   #49
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No point, he can't read. Since when a 3 years old can read....
whats your excuse?

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Old 03-17-2003, 08:01 AM   #50
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and what does it matter where we were from 39-41

we came to your aid

not saying we rescued you or anything that was a GROUP effort


BUT if we hadnt it would be a verry diiferent world today

and That's a fact you euros can spin all u wish
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