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Joe Sixpack · 03-17-2003, 08:02 AM

Fiddy!

directfiesta · 03-17-2003, 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by Troels

Uhm, If I'm not mistaken England asked for the US to help them against Hitler, but your country was experiencing an economic upturn after the depression, so neither your leaders OR the public wanted to be involved in the war.

You agreed to sell goods to England though, but they had to use their own transports to maintain US neutrality towards Hitler.

Heads in the sand?

Absolutely right...

Not as glorious as: we saved your asses, ya motherfuckers frenchmen....

Joe Sixpack · 03-17-2003, 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

Absolutely right...

Not as glorious as: we saved your asses, ya motherfuckers frenchmen....

The French military lost more men than the Americans.

If only they'd eaten Freedom Fries instead!

freeme · 03-17-2003, 08:12 AM

hmm lets see the french died to liberate their own coutry

our men died their to liberate someone elses country

Joe I know you drink but even YOU can see the difference there

maybe if you close 1 eye you can see it in single instead of double

directfiesta · 03-17-2003, 08:13 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack

The French military lost more men than the Americans.

If only they'd eaten Freedom Fries instead!

And even more civilians... But that is propaganda....

I WANT WAR , because I sell body bags!

Troels · 03-17-2003, 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by Petr

about WW2

http://www.stokesey.demon.co.uk/wwii/casualty.html

about WW1

http://www.geocities.com/~worldwar1/casualty.html

Hmmm I wonder where they got those numbers from?
Denmark lost 4000 people military personnel during WW2????

12 - yes 12 - police officers/soldiers lost their lives in the German invasion of Denmark.

I suspect most of the other 3988 lost their lives fighting FOR the Germans against communism.

Or maybe the 4000 is a qualified CNN guesstimate.

grumpy · 03-17-2003, 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by freeme

Hmm petr

do you know how many AMERICAN service men died in those 2 wars???

Dont tell me about rembering or forgetting

I have FAMILY that DIED on your soil for YOUR freedom

howmany of your countrymen have died for OUR freedom?

Read your history books. First of all your americans are from origin europeans. Thats where your roots are. Second that war was about your freedom to.

grumpy · 03-17-2003, 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by freeme

OK let me clear this UP

I am FOR a peacefull solution

There is NO peacefull solution to Saddam

I didnt say you were a Saddam Lover

can you please show me where I said that?

I said that you all are WILLING to fight eachother over something a STUPID as a game BUT when it comes to the LIVES of the people under saddams control you could give to shits as long as he keeps the oil flowing to your countries and keeps buy PARTS for weapons from France, Russia, German INSTEAD of useing that money to feed the children in his country

do you know how many Iraqi children die each month from malnutrition?

Do you know how many people he has Murdered just in the last 11 years

did you know he GASSED 4k kurds with Chem weapons in N. Iraq

Talk about Brainwashed You seem like sheep ready to be lead to a slaughter

do you know how many Iraqi children die each month from malnutrition? >> They die caused by the us embargo, not because saddam doesnt want to feed them.

freeme · 03-17-2003, 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by grumpy

do you know how many Iraqi children die each month from malnutrition? >> They die caused by the us embargo, not because saddam doesnt want to feed them.

hahahahahah

From the MOUTHS of MORONS!!!!!

PEARL where is serge when we need him!!!!!

Dude the embargo is for MILITRY GOODS

Saddam sells Millions in oil to France then instead of spedning the money like he is supposed to on food and meds for his people he buys weapon parts from the french the germans ect ect

man Serge was right
you all are FUN to push your buttons

El Pres · 03-17-2003, 08:30 AM

Forest,
Why dont you post under your own name.

the real magoo · 03-17-2003, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by grumpy

They die caused by the us embargo, not because saddam doesnt want to feed them.

The UN embargo, not the us embargo

Troels · 03-17-2003, 08:40 AM

Our buttons?

Who's pissed off because Europe doesn't agree with US?
Who started this thread?

For the record I could care less about Iraq. I don't fancy muslim people much to say the least...

What annoys me is the righteous angle Americans seem to hit in all pro-war arguements.
But this war will bite us all in the ass I'm sure.

keyDet79 · 03-17-2003, 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by freeme
You europeans are willing to beat the shit out of eachother over a soccer match BUT you dont want to fight to remove a Murderous Dictator like sadam

I dont get it

someone please explain this

Soccer players, hockey players, they all fight, but thats only like 5% of the population or so.

PornoDoggy · 03-17-2003, 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by Troels

Uhm, If I'm not mistaken England asked for the US to help them against Hitler, but your country was experiencing an economic upturn after the depression, so neither your leaders OR the public wanted to be involved in the war.

You agreed to sell goods to England though, but they had to use their own transports to maintain US neutrality towards Hitler.

Heads in the sand?

Close, but not quite. The U.S. stuck to the same idiotic "nonintervention" policies that allowed the facists to take control of Spain a lot longer than England did - easier to do in the days before ICBMs. While a great many in the U.S. were aware of the danger, and the Roosevelt administration was doing its best to help whereever possible, there was a large isolationist movement at the time. Inspired in part because of a geneuine hatred for war, in some cases admiration for the Nazi/Facist causes, and even a few instances of payoffs and bribery by the Nazis, they were a powerful force right up until Pearl Harbor.

Technically, we were at war with the Germans as early as the spring of 1940, when Roosevelt ordered the Navy and Coast Guard to go after any submarines attempting to sink any ships in a zone that extended far into international waters.

The strange thing is, the political descendants of the Isolationists and anti-internationalists are now the ones arguing for unilateral action.

Troels · 03-17-2003, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by PornoDoggy

Inspired in part because of a geneuine hatred for war

Hmm interesting that some think that was ok 60 years ago, but people that express this feeling today, are ungrateful Euro-trash pussy wimps.

Ahh enough of this. Keep beeping out 'fuck' in your music and maintain the American purity.
It's all getting boring.

ControlThy · 03-17-2003, 09:16 AM

It is bad, that even in 2003, there are still people who did not receive a proper education to inform them about several of the most important historical events.

This has been said before, but it seems to be unclear to certain individuals:

- Europeans created the United States of America, no one else.

- The US started helping Europe once they saw profits could be made by supplying military equipment (which is fine, but don't post nonsense that the US helped because they cared so much about the poor Europeans.)

Also, I find it very disrespectful that you only mention the US soldiers fighting against the Nazis - do NOT forget the contributions of the Australians, British, Canadians, Russians, French resistance and many other nations and groups.

ControlThy · 03-17-2003, 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by TheViper

At least the Netherlands are willing to fight

The current Dutch goverment is very PRO-America (so were most previous governments), they will follow any orders Washington gives them.

I don't think that is something to be proud of?

Shok · 03-17-2003, 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by El Pres

What is the % in America that doesn't want a war,
isn't it around the 50% mark anyway.

So 50% of America wants a war, and you think the whole world is a c.u.n.t because 5.85 billion people dissagree with the 150 million that do.

Godamn, enough of the stupid poll shit.
Polls dont mean anything because they only ask like maybe 100-500 people what they think.
You will never know exactly what the percent of anything is unless you ask everyone and that will never happen.

El Pres · 03-17-2003, 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by Shok

Godamn, enough of the stupid poll shit.
Polls dont mean anything because they only ask like maybe 100-500 people what they think.
You will never know exactly what the percent of anything is unless you ask everyone and that will never happen.

Did I mention any poll, I took a guess as it seems to be the democratic party line on it, and that's about 50% of the population isn't it, it was just a guess thats why I asked.

So

Shok · 03-17-2003, 10:13 AM

right back at you bitch

Nydahl · 03-17-2003, 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by freeme
and what does it matter where we were from 39-41

we came to your aid

not saying we rescued you or anything that was a GROUP effort

BUT if we hadnt it would be a verry diiferent world today

and That's a fact you euros can spin all u wish

yeah the world would be really different but for you US guys too my dear , I am sure.
btw some of your replies are really stupid - I think you should see your psychologist - think about that for a while bro

directfiesta · 03-17-2003, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by Nydahl

yeah the world would be really different but for you US gyus too my dear , I am sure.
btw some of your replies are really stupid - I think you should see your psychologist - think about that for a while bro

Hehe... Shrinks gave up on him....

Ironhorse · 03-17-2003, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by freeme
Ok mr IQ man you must be a BRIT

Hmm..ok hey man, the British are on OUR SIDE..wtf?

iggysick · 03-17-2003, 11:41 AM

yeah, yeah ... get rid of dictator my ass!
all you want is oil! it took 10 years to get slobodan milosevic to hagg!!!!

directfiesta · 03-17-2003, 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by iggysick
yeah, yeah ... get rid of dictator my ass!
all you want is oil! it took 10 years to get slobodan milosevic to hagg!!!!

And Romania... They had to get rid of their dictator by themselves. US were to happy to do business with him....

Sly_RJ · 03-17-2003, 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by grumpy

do you know how many Iraqi children die each month from malnutrition? >> They die caused by the us embargo, not because saddam doesnt want to feed them.

Oh dear God. I don't think I can take it anymore.

Where did you get this information? Who told you? In what state of mind were you in when you created it?

Would you like the facts? Well here you go, read up:
http://www.un.org/Depts/oip/
And here:
http://www.un.org/Depts/oip/background/index.html

All REAL information revealing the REAL situation.

Yo Adrian · 03-17-2003, 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by freeme
You europeans are willing to beat the shit out of eachother over a soccer match BUT you dont want to fight to remove a Murderous Dictator like sadam

I dont get it

someone please explain this

The vast majority of world population is against this war, we've all seen massive Europeans fighting against the war....so the fighting spirit is there, just not fighting for the side you wish they would.

A side note about soccer I find interesting:

One of the primary rules of the game is to maintain good sportsmanship....you can't question the ref or display anger against calls...and the exchange of the jersey tradition is as friendly as it gets.

So why do the fans get so damn violent after matches that are founded on good sportsmanship?

I'm big world soccer fan by the way

Ironhorse · 03-17-2003, 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack

The French military lost more men than the Americans.

If only they'd eaten Freedom Fries instead!

LOL

Ironhorse · 03-17-2003, 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by grumpy

do you know how many Iraqi children die each month from malnutrition? >> They die caused by the us embargo, not because saddam doesnt want to feed them.

I think you will find out how quickly that embargo is reversed as soon as Saddam is removed.

On another note, Iraq has very good soil and irrigation, there is no reason that they should depend on external aid for food except for gross incompetence and/or done on purpose by local government, ie. Saddam INC.

I mean, let's be real, this is where agricultare was first developed.

MiaSimonsen · 03-17-2003, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by TheViper
Don't stereotype all Europeans dude, some are willing to fight, some others do not. It's easy to stereotype people, for instance I could call all Moslims complete idiots, which is not true either

At least the Netherlands are willing to fight

Completely agree. However, in order to win a fight - I like to know that I am at least aiming in the right direction.

I guess that's more the hang up now rather than will to fight.

It's easy to pull out the guns - but I think measuring consequenses is always a wise thing to do...

If Saddam Hussein attacks the US - with chemicals and bombs -killing innocent Americans, isn't it good to know that there was absolutely no way to avoid that confrontation?

I think so...Don't want blood on my hands that could have been avoided.

JeremySF · 03-17-2003, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by grumpy

do you know how many Iraqi children die each month from malnutrition? >> They die caused by the us embargo, not because saddam doesnt want to feed them.

This argument is so hollow. One person is responsible for the embargo: Saddam Hussein. Moreover, the sanctions don't prohibit food and medicine from reaching the people of Iraq ? the onus for that failure lies on Hussein and his government.

Also, the United States and Britain had long been pushing for new "smart sanctions" that would remove nearly all limitations on trade with Iraq. Effectively, their proposal would have increased enforcement of the arms-sale ban and anti-smuggling efforts.

A master of propaganda, Hussein has many convinced that were it not for the sanctions, his people would be living in health and prosperity. He shows journalists and sympathizers the "effects" of sanctions. But even while his people starve, Hussein and his inner circle are getting the best food, housing, and medical care available

The oil-for-food program enabled Iraq to increase its revenues from $4 billion in 1997 to more than $17 billion within a couple of years. Hussein's personal wealth was estimated by Forbes magazine, in 1997, at $6 billion, which is enough to eradicate hunger and poverty in his country. Meanwhile, he has built numerous presidential palaces and monuments since the sanctions were imposed ? with funds that could have been used for food and medicine for his people.

Finally, the claim that 500,000 children have died as a result of sanctions is based on faulty information and partial surveys, and information shared by the Iraqi government ? information based on extrapolations from small, unscientific samples.

JeremySF · 03-17-2003, 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by ControlThy

The US started helping Europe once they saw profits could be made by supplying military equipment (which is fine, but don't post nonsense that the US helped because they cared so much about the poor Europeans.)

That's partially true, but the fact is the reasons countries get involved in war is more complex than most people make it out to be.

There was not one single reason the U.S. got involved in WWI and II. And in fact there was a tremendous amount of debate about even getting involved. Most conservatives at the time were isolationists and opposed getting involved at all. You had others who supported appeasement. You even had many people who actually supported siding with the Germans, including Joe Kennedy (JFK's father.) But, you did have many people who supported going to war for idealistic reasons, and others for simply out of self-interest (which actually dictates most country's war policies).

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Also, I find it very disrespectful that you only mention the US soldiers fighting against the Nazis - do NOT forget the contributions of the Australians, British, Canadians, Russians, French resistance and many other nations and groups.

Agreed, it was a multilateral effort.

p!mp-d@wg · 03-17-2003, 01:31 PM

You all talk like you now politics, idiots, go watch some football as you call it.

you quote newspapers like a bunch od pasty followers, like most gfyers

Sly_RJ · 03-17-2003, 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by JeremySF

The oil-for-food program enabled Iraq to increase its revenues from $4 billion in 1997 to more than $17 billion within a couple of years. Hussein's personal wealth was estimated by Forbes magazine, in 1997, at $6 billion, which is enough to eradicate hunger and poverty in his country. Meanwhile, he has built numerous presidential palaces and monuments since the sanctions were imposed ? with funds that could have been used for food and medicine for his people.

It's also important to state that there is no longer a "ceiling" on the oil-for-food program. Iraq is free to sell mass quantities of oil to generate revenues to purchase not only food and medicine for it's citizens, but the revenues also can go to social programs, infrastructure, employment opportunities, etc.

If the Iraqi people are suffering, I feel sorry for them. The suffering is the fault of one person, Saddam Hussein.

Theo · 03-17-2003, 01:48 PM

if you don't like me, blow me

Fletch XYX · 03-17-2003, 01:59 PM

USA freed Europe thanks to their intervention in WW II?

Gimme a fucking break.

Fletch XXX · 03-17-2003, 02:16 PM

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Fletch XXX · 03-17-2003, 02:17 PM

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Sarah_Jayne · 03-17-2003, 04:13 PM

in the 6 years I have been in the Uk I can only think of one or two episodes of real violence at a football (soccer) match and that was after the game in the streets between fans.

The scenes most Americans have in their minds of a football tragedy was not a fight - it was people being trampled to death and suffocated because too many people were left into the ground at too fast a pace and there was fencing at the front of the crowd that prevented people from moving away. So, that wasn't violence it was more on par with the night club disaster in Chicago recently.

Ron2k1 · 03-17-2003, 04:33 PM

I did not read the whole thread, I'm just answering the question of the topic title:

There is NOTHING fucking wrong with the average european people....

JeremySF · 03-17-2003, 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by Ron2k1
I did not read the whole thread, I'm just answering the question of the topic title:

There is NOTHING fucking wrong with the average european people....

except for those people from Rotterdam.....I think they're a little off.

freeme · 03-18-2003, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

The "WE " word....

Name the 30 countries ( not states, countries...)

Then put beside if the population backs it's gov.

United States
UK
Australia
Poland
Kuwait
Bahrain
Qatar
UAE
Oman
Saudi Arabia
Kuwait
Japan
South Korea
Portugal
Spain
Albania
Bulgaria
Croatia
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Macedonia
Romania
Slovakia
Slovenia
Holland

OK 26 so I was off by a feww

twinkley · 03-18-2003, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by freeme
You europeans are willing to beat the shit out of eachother over a soccer match BUT you dont want to fight to remove a Murderous Dictator like sadam

I dont get it

someone please explain this

Well, first off, there are plenty of americans that dont want to fight or go to war either. Its not just the europeans - our prez. is an ass. Second, we are not going to war to remove saddam - we are going to take over their oil fields. Plain and Simple. If we were looking to get rid of a real threat, we would be looking a N. Korea.....

twinkley

tycoon · 03-18-2003, 11:38 AM

Im just curious if any of the people on this thread are aware that we put Saddam Hussien in power and provided him with a majority of his weapons to overthrow the current dictator of IRAQ at the point in time. And, is anyone else aware that we trained OSAMA & The Taliban to overthrow the government that was in power prior to their control?

Im curious to know if people have taken this into account when forming their opinions?

-King

BigFish · 03-18-2003, 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by tycoon
Im just curious if any of the people on this thread are aware that we put Saddam Hussien in power and provided him with a majority of his weapons to overthrow the current dictator of IRAQ at the point in time. And, is anyone else aware that we trained OSAMA & The Taliban to overthrow the government that was in power prior to their control?

Im curious to know if people have taken this into account when forming their opinions?

-King

I am, too, curious on if some pro Saddam people have the ability to think for themselves. The United States trained, or should I say, educated and helped Saddam and Osama in the past to defend themselves against other people trying to take over their own Country. We're not responsible if they go awry and start fucking around just like we're not directly responsible for the thousands of felons in the United States today that we educated through public schools where they were kids. Are gun store owners directly responsible for the actions of their customers 10 years down the road? Using your logic, they supplied the gun so I guess they're somehow responsible for the customer's intentions forever.

tycoon · 03-18-2003, 12:42 PM

Kids dont pick their parents, parents pick their kids.

However, it is suffice to say that if we are going to war, let us agree that we are cleaning up our own mess and not correcting a world problem. Keep in mind that historically all rejimes that we have supported went as follows:

1)Bad in man in power
2)We support some new people
3)give them guns
4)tell them to kill the man in power
5)then after giving the guns let them do as they want.

This can be seen in today's northen alliance.

Dont get me wrong, im all for removing saddam and I think he is a terrible man that should be killed. And I dont think passive action works. However, Im just curious as to the depth knowledge of those who are pro or against the war.

-King

strobi · 03-18-2003, 01:02 PM

Violence is the way to solve everything. why don't bomb whole iraq kill hundreds of innocent people hey, lets bomb some mothers and fathers too... what about an innocent 20 year old? Who's gonna miss that little crackhead??? Hey kill em all! We love to be murderers!

BigFish · 03-18-2003, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by tycoon
Kids dont pick their parents, parents pick their kids.

However, it is suffice to say that if we are going to war, let us agree that we are cleaning up our own mess and not correcting a world problem. Keep in mind that historically all rejimes that we have supported went as follows:

1)Bad in man in power
2)We support some new people
3)give them guns
4)tell them to kill the man in power
5)then after giving the guns let them do as they want.

This can be seen in today's northen alliance.

Dont get me wrong, im all for removing saddam and I think he is a terrible man that should be killed. And I dont think passive action works. However, Im just curious as to the depth knowledge of those who are pro or against the war.

-King

It is a WORLD problem. What's going on the world right now? North Korea is making Nukes and nobody can stop them. IRAN is considering making nukes also. Do you know how devestating a nuclear bomb can be in the hands of the wrong person? It just takes ONE single nuclear bomb in a major U.S. city to spin the WORLD economy out of control. Terrorist organizations do not have the resources to research and make nukes but ROGUE STATES DO. How can anybody stop these nations from selling the nuke to terrorist organizations once they developed them?? The U.N.? Realize that the United Nations will never THINK of trying to stop this crisis until it's too late. Rogue states know this, but the rest of the world have yet to figure it out. What is the U.N. doing about the Korean situation now? NOTHING. It was only until the U.S. started pushing the IRAQ situation that the U.N. started to wake up again. The war in IRAQ not only takes Saddam out so the world doesn't have to BABYSIT him for years and years to come, but it also sends a message to the other rogue nations that their nuclear ambitions will not go unchecked.

rossiya2 · 03-18-2003, 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by PostWhore
Because Europeans are not brainewashed by CNN and they know that the real reason of the war is OIL and nothing else.

It gets better. U.S. is squeezing out it's best ally in the quest to make Iraqi oil a closed shop. France could come out ahead of the British. Newsfeed:

Certainly, US oil companies look forward to 'privatising' the Iraqi oil industry after Saddam's fall. They have already held talks with leaders of the Iraqi National Congress, the main opposition group. They are not alone in eyeing Iraqi oil.

French, Russian, Chinese and other oil companies have established oil links with Saddam, in the expectation of cashing in once UN sanctions are over. But many are severing those links and cosying up to the Iraqi National Congress. They will have heard CIA director James Woolsey say last autumn, "France and Russia... should be told that if they are of assistance in moving Iraq toward decent government, we'll do the best we can to ensure that the new government and American companies work closely with them."

That could be bad news for British oil chiefs who may expect a payback for the UK's support for the war. Recently Lord Browne, chief executive of British oil giant BP, claimed that his company was being squeezed out in deals between US oil companies and the Iraqi National Congress and called for a "level playing field for the selection of oil companies to go in there if Iraq changes its regime."

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tycoon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 99	Kids dont pick their parents, parents pick their kids. However, it is suffice to say that if we are going to war, let us agree that we are cleaning up our own mess and not correcting a world problem. Keep in mind that historically all rejimes that we have supported went as follows: 1)Bad in man in power 2)We support some new people 3)give them guns 4)tell them to kill the man in power 5)then after giving the guns let them do as they want. This can be seen in today's northen alliance. Dont get me wrong, im all for removing saddam and I think he is a terrible man that should be killed. And I dont think passive action works. However, Im just curious as to the depth knowledge of those who are pro or against the war. -King __________________ <b> <a href="http://www.socalcash.com/ref=coed" target="_blank">FUCK SOCIAL SECURITY. Retire with some real cash in your pocket - SoCalCash.com</a> </b> <br /> <a href=http://www.socalcash.com/ref=coed><img src=http://www.socalcash.com/socal-120x60.gif border="0" alt="a retirement plan for pornographers">

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Troels Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Between the clouds Posts: 1,035	Our buttons? Who's pissed off because Europe doesn't agree with US? Who started this thread? For the record I could care less about Iraq. I don't fancy muslim people much to say the least... What annoys me is the righteous angle Americans seem to hit in all pro-war arguements. But this war will bite us all in the ass I'm sure.

03-17-2003, 09:16 AM	#66
ControlThy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,909	It is bad, that even in 2003, there are still people who did not receive a proper education to inform them about several of the most important historical events. This has been said before, but it seems to be unclear to certain individuals: - Europeans created the United States of America, no one else. - The US started helping Europe once they saw profits could be made by supplying military equipment (which is fine, but don't post nonsense that the US helped because they cared so much about the poor Europeans.) Also, I find it very disrespectful that you only mention the US soldiers fighting against the Nazis - do NOT forget the contributions of the Australians, British, Canadians, Russians, French resistance and many other nations and groups.

03-17-2003, 10:13 AM	#70
Shok Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LIVE EVIL Posts: 5,611	right back at you bitch

03-17-2003, 01:31 PM	#83
p!mp-d@wg So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 47	You all talk like you now politics, idiots, go watch some football as you call it. you quote newspapers like a bunch od pasty followers, like most gfyers

03-17-2003, 01:48 PM	#85
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	if you don't like me, blow me

03-17-2003, 01:59 PM	#86
Fletch XYX Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 69	USA freed Europe thanks to their intervention in WW II? Gimme a fucking break.

03-17-2003, 04:13 PM	#90
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	in the 6 years I have been in the Uk I can only think of one or two episodes of real violence at a football (soccer) match and that was after the game in the streets between fans. The scenes most Americans have in their minds of a football tragedy was not a fight - it was people being trampled to death and suffocated because too many people were left into the ground at too fast a pace and there was fencing at the front of the crowd that prevented people from moving away. So, that wasn't violence it was more on par with the night club disaster in Chicago recently.

03-17-2003, 04:33 PM	#91
Ron2k1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,573	I did not read the whole thread, I'm just answering the question of the topic title: There is NOTHING fucking wrong with the average european people....

03-18-2003, 01:02 PM	#98
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	Violence is the way to solve everything. why don't bomb whole iraq kill hundreds of innocent people hey, lets bomb some mothers and fathers too... what about an innocent 20 year old? Who's gonna miss that little crackhead??? Hey kill em all! We love to be murderers!