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Kick Ass Chat · 03-15-2003, 12:52 PM

Isn't every surfer on the net "Pre Qualified"...I mean doesn't everyone have to pay for internet access??..so therefore they have some method of paying, (if they want to) ???

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GirlsFrehahahahas
Isn't every surfer on the net "Pre Qualified"...I mean doesn't everyone have to pay for internet access??..so therefore they have some method of paying, (if they want to) ???

Based on your definition of prequalified the the: .cn leecherz off the movie forums that suck up GBs of movies every day and don't click on banners/text are prequalified

Not really a promising market segment.

nocostporn · 03-15-2003, 12:56 PM

$10 a gallery and you've got yourself a deal

Tuga · 03-15-2003, 12:57 PM

It seems like a good ideia, but it's also true that 0.25 will only atract newbies with poor galleries looking to make $5 for a hot dog. I want the CC traffic and the detailed stats, not your money.

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn
$10 a gallery and you've got yourself a deal

Hell, if it hits the right areas and produces the right behavior in the user, why the hell not?

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga
It seems like a good ideia, but it's also true that 0.25 will only atract newbies with poor galleries looking to make $5 for a hot dog. I want the CC traffic and the detailed stats, not your money.

Good feedback. You also get marketing feedback based on the system's logs and AI engine. This should help you generate more money with your galleries at least with the system's traffic. Plus maybe pay you more if your materials does exceptionally well for the system.

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga
.... 0.25 will only atract newbies with poor galleries looking to make $5 for a hot dog. ....

Although the prime target are experienced gallery producers with a track record of producing galleries that appeal to users, I'm also interested in new guys to the game who may have an "amateur" style that surfers may dig. This is valuable, in providing diversity to the system I'm piecing together.

Tuga · 03-15-2003, 01:09 PM

That's fine, and if you set a minimum payment of $50 you will never have to pay most of the noobs :P

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga
That's fine, and if you set a minimum payment of $50 you will never have to pay most of the noobs :P

Actually, I plan to pay on all amounts due, even if its just $.25 Having cash roll over may create accounting issues.

quiet · 03-15-2003, 01:25 PM

do you currently have any traffic behind this avs(s)/paysite(s)? sorry if it's been answered, i'm heading out and only scanned the thread...

siccmade · 03-15-2003, 01:26 PM

I am VERY interested, please contact me on ICQ

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
do you currently have any traffic behind this avs(s)/paysite(s)? sorry if it's been answered, i'm heading out and only scanned the thread...

Yep but not aggregated within an unified system. I posted this thread to gauge interest/issues that need to be addressed in building such a unified system.

iggysick · 03-15-2003, 01:51 PM

Ok

1000s of rules and we didn't start anything

StupidNewbie · 03-15-2003, 01:54 PM

Awesome so now you'll pay people to redirect your traffic to incest toplists. Fantastic news!

blofer80 · 03-15-2003, 01:57 PM

Gsharp - Please msg me on ICQ 168719446,
Thanks.

GoLiaT · 03-15-2003, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by G Sharp
I also forgot to mention in the "Win" analysis for submitters.

Another way you win is there's less BW usage for you due to your submission to my system since my traffic uses low BW cuz we filter the hell out of users--leeches are filtered out, "non productive" members are filtered out, plus other tricks up the system's sleeve.

why not use the 10000000 sponsors hosted gallerys
thats floating around and make the $$$ yourself ?

421Fill · 03-15-2003, 02:09 PM

I think it sounds like an excellent idea, and I am particularily interested in the data that we as submitters can attain... However, this part about the payment being for "Legal Reasons".. What exactly are the legal ramifications? I'm interested to see the contract that I'd be signing... What are you really "buying" for the $0.25 and even $1.00 per gallery?

ownerland · 03-15-2003, 02:16 PM

Easy to post on 21site

MattO · 03-15-2003, 02:22 PM

Hmm... would good sponsor hosted galleries qualify?

freeadultcontent · 03-15-2003, 02:24 PM

G sharp hit me up on icq please.

135982156

Nysus · 03-15-2003, 02:34 PM

I don't think he's expecting these galleries submtited to be exclusive to his site... I know many people have thought about doing the same thing, though there are a lot of factors to consider.

1 Positive - You get high-quality galleries because you get instant daily submitters...

1 Negative - You'll have to weed out a lot of constant shit build up from people trying to get a quick 25 cents....

Cheers,
Matt

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by turbo
I think it sounds like an excellent idea, and I am particularily interested in the data that we as submitters can attain... However, this part about the payment being for "Legal Reasons".. What exactly are the legal ramifications? I'm interested to see the contract that I'd be signing... What are you really "buying" for the $0.25 and even $1.00 per gallery?

Legal protections to cover my ass re 1) your right to use your content 2) my right to link to your content

SquarePants · 03-15-2003, 02:59 PM

Interesting Idea G-Sharp, keep us posted as to what is next.

Lizzie · 03-15-2003, 03:05 PM

Sounds very interesting.

klik · 03-15-2003, 03:17 PM

Sounds like a good idea... icq me when you're ready.. I'll submit on a regular schedule.. clean galleries always.

sexpress · 03-15-2003, 03:44 PM

I´m interested, I have 4 paysites and I shoot the content myself, so my gallerys would be for these 4 sites with exclusive content.

I have a fifth site coming next month, really exclusive fetish/niche stuff in that one!

Hit me up when you get things going!

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by StupidNewbie
Awesome so now you'll pay people to redirect your traffic to incest toplists. Fantastic news!

That's what a ban list is for.

Asking for proof of content ownership would scare many of these type of dudez off ...

Rictor · 03-15-2003, 04:34 PM

I'm willing to submit Asian galleries to you with my own exclusive content.

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GoLiaT

why not use the 10000000 sponsors hosted gallerys
thats floating around and make the $$$ yourself ?

This is a good idea IF

sponsor is relatively new and using relatively fresh exclusive content

However, the bulk of sponsor hosted galleries out there have done heavy rotations through TGPs and other marketing channels already.

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ron2k1
So a big part of the traffic is coming from people who have been scrubbed by cc processors like ccbill and ibill?

Very nice

Not quite. But interesting, possibly expensive idea. I have a cheaper version. What I actually meant by "scrubbed" is that the database scrubs leechez/unproductive users on a continuing basis.

Another concern this raises is how to find relatively "green" traffic --ie., first or second time porn buyers that are relatively fresh to the game instead of jaded leacherz that won't pay anything EVER.

Using scrub traffic may not be discriminating enough.

psyko514 · 03-15-2003, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GirlsFrehahahahas
Isn't every surfer on the net "Pre Qualified"...I mean doesn't everyone have to pay for internet access??..so therefore they have some method of paying, (if they want to) ???

Are you serious? What about people on free dial-up connections? What about people who get the internet free from the government? What about people who surf from the office or someone else's house or a café? What about teenage boys surfing on daddy's account?

newbiewebmistress · 03-15-2003, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by G Sharp
Rules

1) You must be able to prove ownership of content along with 2257 link/info.

2) Pics/Movies must be of high quality. At least 16 per gallery for photo galleries. At least 8 movie clips for movie galleries.

3) You submit the html of the gallery. All links must work for at least 30 days after acceptance.

4) starting with about 10 niches

Payout:

You get all clicks

25 cents per accepted gallery

Traffic is NOT from TGP but 1) niche opt in 2) constantly scrubbed 3) credit card verified users

Cheat and you get nuked along with being put on a publicly listed domain black list.

ANY TAKERS??? Post comments / suggestions/ helpful advise / market analysis / etc Here

Sounds good, I want in. But how do we prove ownership of the content, as well as the 2257 info?
Also does this mean I can't use the content from a sponsor to promote a sponsor?

Also, once we prove all of the info what chance do we have of getting accepted? Do you do credit checks?

(seems like everybody's doing them.)

You got a good idea, here.

The real Dirty D · 03-15-2003, 11:27 PM

Start your own tgp and make up to 75 % of the profit

steffie · 03-15-2003, 11:47 PM

Sounds good, we have all original content, all the stuff you need, I have 7 different niches. Hit me up on icq when youre ready

Steffie 18314311

Voodoo · 03-16-2003, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by G Sharp
Rules

1) You must be able to prove ownership of content along with 2257 link/info.

2) Pics/Movies must be of high quality. At least 16 per gallery for photo galleries. At least 8 movie clips for movie galleries.

3) You submit the html of the gallery. All links must work for at least 30 days after acceptance.

4) starting with about 10 niches

Payout:

You get all clicks

25 cents per accepted gallery

Traffic is NOT from TGP but 1) niche opt in 2) constantly scrubbed 3) credit card verified users

Cheat and you get nuked along with being put on a publicly listed domain black list.

ANY TAKERS??? Post comments / suggestions/ helpful advise / market analysis / etc Here

Hey G...
ICQ me Please. Thanks.
12636661

Kinder · 03-16-2003, 06:21 AM

171739496

I think I have exactelly what you need.

G Sharp · 03-16-2003, 10:44 AM

If you want to me to contact you when this project is past the debug stage, leave your ICQ here. I have bookmarked this thread and will ICQ those who are interested.

Check the rules--its listed earlier and throughout this thread. Also, the more exclusive or FRESH your content is the higher the chance you'd get listed and get paid. We'll tweak your payout if your material gets good user interest. Minimum payout is 25 cents, maximum payout is $10 per accepted gallery. Plus you get a report re user click behavior and text link/color/content/arrangement user reviews.

Deb · 03-16-2003, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by G Sharp
If you want to me to contact you when this project is past the debug stage, leave your ICQ here. I have bookmarked this thread and will ICQ those who are interested.

I'd be interested in hearing more. Thanks.

ICQ#127500132

rjstar · 03-16-2003, 02:58 PM

I'm also interested in hearing more. Thanks.

DarkJedi · 03-16-2003, 03:06 PM

its not going to work.

G Sharp · 03-16-2003, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
its not going to work.

I don't mind your conclusion but PLEASE have some evidence or argumentation to back up your conclusion

McAttack · 03-17-2003, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by G Sharp

I don't mind your conclusion but PLEASE have some evidence or argumentation to back up your conclusion

Bah, don't worry about people like that. Saying "It won't work" is one thing. Nobody knows for sure if it'll work or not. Go for it, try it out. You can't know unless you try it. One of our guys will get in touch with you on this for our galleries.

Darren · 03-17-2003, 09:12 AM

Surely these galleries are just going to be used in a member area. HIGH quality content every day and paying just 25 cents a gallery for it. Surfers have several different niches to view etc.

G Sharp · 03-17-2003, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren
Surely these galleries are just going to be used in a member area. HIGH quality content every day and paying just 25 cents a gallery for it. Surfers have several different niches to view etc.

Close but not quite. Need more volume than regular paysite members to make money on the new method/business model that this project is just one manifestation of.

Damian_Maxcash · 03-17-2003, 09:49 AM

Surfer profiling??

Will you be taking the submitted gallery HTML and serving that yourself?

You can then ID each surfer with a cookie, and study thier surfing habits in detail......

Example: Surfer A123 always hands over their CC when he sees a black, one legged lesbian.

Surfer B123 is a high bandwidth leech

Imagine how valuable that info would be.... what you could sell it for......

I am probably miles off..... but it sounds like a good idea anyway!!

DarkJedi · 03-17-2003, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by G Sharp

I don't mind your conclusion but PLEASE have some evidence or argumentation to back up your conclusion

I can't give you any logical arguments. I just know it. Feel it in my gut.

G Sharp · 03-17-2003, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi

I can't give you any logical arguments. I just know it. Feel it in my gut.

LOL

G Sharp · 03-17-2003, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by damian2001
Surfer profiling??

Will you be taking the submitted gallery HTML and serving that yourself?

You can then ID each surfer with a cookie, and study thier surfing habits in detail......

Example: Surfer A123 always hands over their CC when he sees a black, one legged lesbian.

Surfer B123 is a high bandwidth leech

Imagine how valuable that info would be.... what you could sell it for......

I am probably miles off..... but it sounds like a good idea anyway!!

Way simpler than that and light on the coding but amazingly detailed. I was pleasantly surprised.

pimplink · 04-22-2003, 06:39 AM

This is a great idea...but not for gallery submitters. Its great for sponsors with sponsor hosted galleries and also for content providers who are test marketing their new stuff.

AmeliaG · 04-22-2003, 09:03 AM

I shoot new stuff every week. Not sure how much I would post to a particular TGP-like beast, but you've certainly peaked my interest.

icq 337070007

--Amelia

03-15-2003, 12:56 PM	#53
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03-15-2003, 12:57 PM	#54
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03-15-2003, 12:52 PM	#51
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03-15-2003, 01:25 PM	#60
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03-15-2003, 01:54 PM	#64
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03-15-2003, 02:09 PM	#67
421Fill Super Mario Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Swenson's Avatar Posts: 19,601	I think it sounds like an excellent idea, and I am particularily interested in the data that we as submitters can attain... However, this part about the payment being for "Legal Reasons".. What exactly are the legal ramifications? I'm interested to see the contract that I'd be signing... What are you really "buying" for the $0.25 and even $1.00 per gallery? __________________ RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!!!

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03-15-2003, 02:34 PM	#71
Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	I don't think he's expecting these galleries submtited to be exclusive to his site... I know many people have thought about doing the same thing, though there are a lot of factors to consider. 1 Positive - You get high-quality galleries because you get instant daily submitters... 1 Negative - You'll have to weed out a lot of constant shit build up from people trying to get a quick 25 cents.... Cheers, Matt

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03-15-2003, 03:44 PM	#76
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03-15-2003, 04:34 PM	#78
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03-16-2003, 10:44 AM	#87
G Sharp So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,343	If you want to me to contact you when this project is past the debug stage, leave your ICQ here. I have bookmarked this thread and will ICQ those who are interested. Check the rules--its listed earlier and throughout this thread. Also, the more exclusive or FRESH your content is the higher the chance you'd get listed and get paid. We'll tweak your payout if your material gets good user interest. Minimum payout is 25 cents, maximum payout is $10 per accepted gallery. Plus you get a report re user click behavior and text link/color/content/arrangement user reviews.

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04-22-2003, 06:39 AM	#99
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