New type of site: TGP that pays you to submit galleries - GoFuckYourself.com

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 11:44 AM

Rules

1) You must be able to prove ownership of content along with 2257 link/info.

2) Pics/Movies must be of high quality. At least 16 per gallery for photo galleries. At least 8 movie clips for movie galleries.

3) You submit the html of the gallery. All links must work for at least 30 days after acceptance.

4) starting with about 10 niches

Payout:

You get all clicks

25 cents per accepted gallery

Traffic is NOT from TGP but 1) niche opt in 2) constantly scrubbed 3) credit card verified users

Cheat and you get nuked along with being put on a publicly listed domain black list.

ANY TAKERS??? Post comments / suggestions/ helpful advise / market analysis / etc Here

Hardcore J · 03-15-2003, 11:45 AM

Why would you pay for TGP galleries? I don't get it.

Sly_RJ · 03-15-2003, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hardcore J
Why would you pay for TGP galleries? I don't get it.

Because people are paying him for access to the galleries.

playa · 03-15-2003, 11:47 AM

you'll go broke once the auto submitters spam you

xxxdesign-net · 03-15-2003, 11:48 AM

25 cents ???

I need to make and submit 40 galleries to make $10 ???

XxXotic · 03-15-2003, 11:48 AM

i'd add it to my submit list, hell whats one more tgp

Ron2k1 · 03-15-2003, 11:48 AM

So a big part of the traffic is coming from people who have been scrubbed by cc processors like ccbill and ibill?

Very nice

Rich · 03-15-2003, 11:48 AM

Stupid idea. Seriously, 25 cents per gallery, is that what gallery submitters have sunk too? How long is it going to take for that too add up? Also, I can't see your business plan being profitable, I mean why pay for submissions anyway? The easiest thing about starting a TGP is getting submitters, worry about the surfers.

DearAbby · 03-15-2003, 11:51 AM

Free Porn is a Dying business...

(because it's free)

Ron2k1 · 03-15-2003, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
25 cents ???

I need to make and submit 40 galleries to make $10 ???

Am I very smart or is you very dumb?

Rich · 03-15-2003, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ron2k1

Am I very smart or is you very dumb?

Explain why he is very dumb, because right now it's looks the other way around.

xxxdesign-net · 03-15-2003, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ron2k1

Am I very smart or is you very dumb?

haha... care to explain this remark? I'll bet on you being dumb!

Hardcore J · 03-15-2003, 11:58 AM

Well it sounds interesting. Assuming that I can use the same galleries I already submit (with sponsors and such) then I'm willing to give it a shot.

Contact me by a method below. I'm not on ICQ right now but will be by around 12PM PST.

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hardcore J
Well it sounds interesting. Assuming that I can use the same galleries I already submit (with sponsors and such) then I'm willing to give it a shot.

Contact me by a method below. I'm not on ICQ right now but will be by around 12PM PST.

You can use the same galleries with other TGPs it doesn't matter as long as the gallery submitted to us meets the requirements above.

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa
you'll go broke once the auto submitters spam you

1) proof of content ownership

2) blocks on submission script to weed out abusive submitters

Sly_RJ · 03-15-2003, 12:04 PM

It's Saturday, so I'll give you guys a break.

From what I understand, he's building a TGP like site. EXCEPT, EVERY surfer has a credit card and is willing to use it. Maybe this is going inside an AVS or even a paysite. The site will probably revolve around these high quality galleries, updated daily. As a surfer, it actually sounds like a decent deal. As a gallery maker, it sounds great. Only high quality traffic, with CCs will be clicking through to my gallery.

Plus, $.25 per gallery to boot. Maybe you'll make $30 flat from listings monthly, plus each and every sale you make.

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DearAbby
Free Porn is a Dying business...

(because it's free)

There are many levels to free.

playa · 03-15-2003, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by G Sharp

Traffic is NOT from TGP but 1) niche opt in 2) constantly scrubbed 3) credit card verified users

Please explain

sound like good traffic that your giving away

on top of that your paying 25 cents per submitted gallery

so whats up your sleave?

Sly_RJ · 03-15-2003, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa

Please explain

sound like good traffic that your giving away

on top of that your paying 25 cents per submitted gallery

so whats up your sleave?

He's listing his own galleries and making money on the recurring memberships!

Come on guys...

Luke · 03-15-2003, 12:09 PM

I think it should be the other way around.

stocktrader23 · 03-15-2003, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich

Explain why he is very dumb, because right now it's looks the other way around.

OMFG

Right now you get zip for submitting galleries. He wants to pay a quarter for each one so long as you follow his rules. So now you get 25 cents and you still get gallery traffic that is pre-qualified to boot. Where exactly did you miss this?

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 12:10 PM

Exactly -- Win Win Win

1) Submitter wins -- gets filtered traffic with proven history of paying for porn. Plus gets paid accepted submission fee.

2) Surfer wins -- gets high quality porn they want. updated frequently

3) System wins -- (Secret ;))

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
It's Saturday, so I'll give you guys a break.

From what I understand, he's building a TGP like site. EXCEPT, EVERY surfer has a credit card and is willing to use it. Maybe this is going inside an AVS or even a paysite. The site will probably revolve around these high quality galleries, updated daily. As a surfer, it actually sounds like a decent deal. As a gallery maker, it sounds great. Only high quality traffic, with CCs will be clicking through to my gallery.

Plus, $.25 per gallery to boot. Maybe you'll make $30 flat from listings monthly, plus each and every sale you make.

stocktrader23 · 03-15-2003, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
25 cents ???

I need to make and submit 40 galleries to make $10 ???

Same goes to you. WTF

FATPad · 03-15-2003, 12:12 PM

If the traffic is already pre-filtered and qualified, you won't need to pay people to submit.

Or you shouldn't. Gallery makers should be happy to get listd in a place that has nothing but cc using surfers.

stocktrader23 · 03-15-2003, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by G Sharp
Exactly -- Win Win Win

1) Submitter wins -- gets filtered traffic with proven history of paying for porn. Plus gets paid accepted submission fee.

2) Surfer wins -- gets high quality porn they want. updated frequently

3) System wins -- (Secret ;))

G, I'm not exactly sure what you are doing but I know exactly where you are coming from. I have been working on an idea that I bet is VERY similar to yours. If you want to discuss sometime hit me up on ICQ.

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G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 12:14 PM

I also forgot to mention in the "Win" analysis for submitters.

Another way you win is there's less BW usage for you due to your submission to my system since my traffic uses low BW cuz we filter the hell out of users--leeches are filtered out, "non productive" members are filtered out, plus other tricks up the system's sleeve.

Tuga · 03-15-2003, 12:14 PM

So, where do I signup ?

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
If the traffic is already pre-filtered and qualified, you won't need to pay people to submit.

Or you shouldn't. Gallery makers should be happy to get listd in a place that has nothing but cc using surfers.

The payout is for legal purposes.

FATPad · 03-15-2003, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by G Sharp

The payout is for legal purposes.

Ahhh. Okay.

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga
So, where do I signup ?

Thanks for your interest, I posted this to gauge interest.

Sly_RJ · 03-15-2003, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
If the traffic is already pre-filtered and qualified, you won't need to pay people to submit.

Or you shouldn't. Gallery makers should be happy to get listd in a place that has nothing but cc using surfers.

The gallery makers obviously need some kind of bribe because they aren't seeing the great advantages of this opportunity. This thread has sheer proof of that.

FATPad · 03-15-2003, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

The gallery makers obviously need some kind of bribe because they aren't seeing the great advantages of this opportunity. This thread has sheer proof of that.

HAHA

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 12:19 PM

How about this... to sweeten the deal and get the accounts of CONSISTENTLY high quality submitters, we will also offer you a

database driven profile of HOW users click on your galleries, what the CTR rate is, focus group/poll info on how effective your galleries are, marketing analysis on how to improve your CTR [layout, colors, photo arrangement, model comments, etc ]

Will this work? Is this necessary ie., would you find this useful?

Rich · 03-15-2003, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23

OMFG

Right now you get zip for submitting galleries. He wants to pay a quarter for each one so long as you follow his rules. So now you get 25 cents and you still get gallery traffic that is pre-qualified to boot. Where exactly did you miss this?

The comment I quoted was directed at someone else, not the dude who started this thread. Where exactly did you miss this?

Rich · 03-15-2003, 12:27 PM

I forgot, OMFG

Rich · 03-15-2003, 12:30 PM

G Sharp, if you have all pre qualified surfers, don't bother with the 25 cents/listing. Each listing should already bring in good money for the submitter. Trust me, you'll have peope lined up to submit to a TGP behind an AVS. Keep the 25 cents for yourself.

NineNine · 03-15-2003, 12:30 PM

I really don't think that payment is necessary. I have 100K+ galleries in my TGP now, about 1/2 are what I'd consider to be really good quality, and there's no reason to pay gallery makers. The better the galleries, the more they make from the sponsorships inside of 'em. Good quantity traffic + good quality traffic = $$, so I don't know why you'd have to pay for galleries. Hell, gallery makers usually pay to get listed with the big boys because of the opportunity there.

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
If the traffic is already pre-filtered and qualified, you won't need to pay people to submit.

Or you shouldn't. Gallery makers should be happy to get listd in a place that has nothing but cc using surfers.

You're talking QUANTITY submitters.. I am interested in QUALITY plus CONSISTENT submitters. Moreover, use the system as a marketing research platform for submitters so they can improve their gallery performance to the TPGs they submit to.

stocktrader23 · 03-15-2003, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich

The comment I quoted was directed at someone else, not the dude who started this thread. Where exactly did you miss this?

Heh, you called the guy dumb that called another guy dumb for questioning how this is a good idea. If you were referring to his spelling my mistake. If you were referring to him being dumb for thinking this was a good idea the statement still stands.

iggysick · 03-15-2003, 12:36 PM

OK!
I need some cash and got around 200 gals!
Where to post it ! Give me a link!

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
G Sharp, if you have all pre qualified surfers, don't bother with the 25 cents/listing. Each listing should already bring in good money for the submitter. Trust me, you'll have peope lined up to submit to a TGP behind an AVS. Keep the 25 cents for yourself.

I spoke with an attorney regarding this, there is a legal agreement that submitters have to comply with. Also, posting is not your regular TGP--enter a URL and you get listed. No... it actually entails entering your actual gallery code.

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iggysick
OK!
I need some cash and got around 200 gals!
Where to post it ! Give me a link!

Not yet, we're still fleshing out the submitter concerns to this project.

on a separate topic...

Another rule: NO AUTOSUBMITTERS. Thanks to the earlier poster who isolated this problem.

xxxdesign-net · 03-15-2003, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23

OMFG

Right now you get zip for submitting galleries. He wants to pay a quarter for each one so long as you follow his rules. So now you get 25 cents and you still get gallery traffic that is pre-qualified to boot. Where exactly did you miss this?

huh?

My point was, what is up what that $0.25 incentive?
How much galleries do I need to submit per month... then on that number, how many will he publish on his TGP... X $0.25 = what? $10 per month (for 40 listings which is very high)!?

So the question was... will someone really submit there because of the $0.25 incentive?

I didnt say the the pre-qualified traffic wasnt a good idea...

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

The gallery makers obviously need some kind of bribe because they aren't seeing the great advantages of this opportunity. This thread has sheer proof of that.

There's extra effort needed because the way the galleries are to be submitted to the system. Plus, focus is on QUALITY gallery providers.

Ron2k1 · 03-15-2003, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich

Explain why he is very dumb, because right now it's looks the other way around.

Quote:

[i]Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

haha... care to explain this remark? I'll bet on you being dumb!

As allready explained, you can make MUCH more then$10 because you can still advertise your site and his traffic should convert much better then regular traffic.

nevermind, no offense

xdcdave · 03-15-2003, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
G Sharp, if you have all pre qualified surfers, don't bother with the 25 cents/listing. Each listing should already bring in good money for the submitter. Trust me, you'll have peope lined up to submit to a TGP behind an AVS. Keep the 25 cents for yourself.

Rich he said up in the thread that it is for "legal" reasons.

Rich · 03-15-2003, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xdcdave

Rich he said up in the thread that it is for "legal" reasons.

didn't notice that, thanks

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 12:48 PM

After reading through your comments and also looking at my notes, its a very high possibility that REALLY GOOD [based on CTR ratio, reliability, and user reviews] gallery providers will get their payouts increased from .25 per gallery to as high as $1 per gallery. System income increases as the quality of the content increases so you should share in this as well.

Still gathering info, please post all your concerns. Be as negative as you want just provide reasons and factual examples.

EscortBiz · 03-15-2003, 12:51 PM

This might be the next Microsoft, I want stock options instead of the $0.25

G Sharp · 03-15-2003, 12:52 PM

Thanks to Paul for the ICQ: Another rule --- No Free Hosts.

03-15-2003, 11:44 AM	#1
G Sharp So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,343	New type of site: TGP that pays you to submit galleries Rules 1) You must be able to prove ownership of content along with 2257 link/info. 2) Pics/Movies must be of high quality. At least 16 per gallery for photo galleries. At least 8 movie clips for movie galleries. 3) You submit the html of the gallery. All links must work for at least 30 days after acceptance. 4) starting with about 10 niches Payout: You get all clicks 25 cents per accepted gallery Traffic is NOT from TGP but 1) niche opt in 2) constantly scrubbed 3) credit card verified users Cheat and you get nuked along with being put on a publicly listed domain black list. ANY TAKERS??? Post comments / suggestions/ helpful advise / market analysis / etc Here

03-15-2003, 11:48 AM	#6
XxXotic Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Da Swamps Posts: 8,500	i'd add it to my submit list, hell whats one more tgp __________________ Sponsors.. Tired of people not using your shitty RSS Feeds? Let Us Help You! Oxeo - Serious Hosting For Serious Webmasters. iCQ:135.887013

03-15-2003, 11:48 AM	#8
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	Stupid idea. Seriously, 25 cents per gallery, is that what gallery submitters have sunk too? How long is it going to take for that too add up? Also, I can't see your business plan being profitable, I mean why pay for submissions anyway? The easiest thing about starting a TGP is getting submitters, worry about the surfers. Last edited by Rich; 03-15-2003 at 11:51 AM..

03-15-2003, 12:04 PM	#16
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	It's Saturday, so I'll give you guys a break. From what I understand, he's building a TGP like site. EXCEPT, EVERY surfer has a credit card and is willing to use it. Maybe this is going inside an AVS or even a paysite. The site will probably revolve around these high quality galleries, updated daily. As a surfer, it actually sounds like a decent deal. As a gallery maker, it sounds great. Only high quality traffic, with CCs will be clicking through to my gallery. Plus, $.25 per gallery to boot. Maybe you'll make $30 flat from listings monthly, plus each and every sale you make. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

03-15-2003, 12:09 PM	#20
Luke Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 91	I think it should be the other way around. __________________ VE Inc. TF TS

03-15-2003, 11:45 AM	#2
Hardcore J Hardcore 4 Life™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 2,553	Why would you pay for TGP galleries? I don't get it.

03-15-2003, 11:47 AM	#4
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	you'll go broke once the auto submitters spam you

03-15-2003, 11:48 AM	#5
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	25 cents ??? I need to make and submit 40 galleries to make $10 ???

03-15-2003, 11:48 AM	#7
Ron2k1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,573	So a big part of the traffic is coming from people who have been scrubbed by cc processors like ccbill and ibill? Very nice

03-15-2003, 11:51 AM	#9
DearAbby Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NoCal Posts: 979	Free Porn is a Dying business... (because it's free)

03-15-2003, 11:58 AM	#13
Hardcore J Hardcore 4 Life™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 2,553	Well it sounds interesting. Assuming that I can use the same galleries I already submit (with sponsors and such) then I'm willing to give it a shot. Contact me by a method below. I'm not on ICQ right now but will be by around 12PM PST.

03-15-2003, 12:12 PM	#24
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	If the traffic is already pre-filtered and qualified, you won't need to pay people to submit. Or you shouldn't. Gallery makers should be happy to get listd in a place that has nothing but cc using surfers. __________________ <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>

03-15-2003, 12:14 PM	#26
G Sharp So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,343	I also forgot to mention in the "Win" analysis for submitters. Another way you win is there's less BW usage for you due to your submission to my system since my traffic uses low BW cuz we filter the hell out of users--leeches are filtered out, "non productive" members are filtered out, plus other tricks up the system's sleeve.

03-15-2003, 12:14 PM	#27
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	So, where do I signup ? __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

03-15-2003, 12:19 PM	#33
G Sharp So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,343	How about this... to sweeten the deal and get the accounts of CONSISTENTLY high quality submitters, we will also offer you a database driven profile of HOW users click on your galleries, what the CTR rate is, focus group/poll info on how effective your galleries are, marketing analysis on how to improve your CTR [layout, colors, photo arrangement, model comments, etc ] Will this work? Is this necessary ie., would you find this useful?

03-15-2003, 12:27 PM	#35
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	I forgot, OMFG

03-15-2003, 12:30 PM	#36
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	G Sharp, if you have all pre qualified surfers, don't bother with the 25 cents/listing. Each listing should already bring in good money for the submitter. Trust me, you'll have peope lined up to submit to a TGP behind an AVS. Keep the 25 cents for yourself.

03-15-2003, 12:30 PM	#37
NineNine So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 256	I really don't think that payment is necessary. I have 100K+ galleries in my TGP now, about 1/2 are what I'd consider to be really good quality, and there's no reason to pay gallery makers. The better the galleries, the more they make from the sponsorships inside of 'em. Good quantity traffic + good quality traffic = $$, so I don't know why you'd have to pay for galleries. Hell, gallery makers usually pay to get listed with the big boys because of the opportunity there.

03-15-2003, 12:36 PM	#40
iggysick Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Croatia Posts: 8,743	OK! I need some cash and got around 200 gals! Where to post it ! Give me a link! __________________ Site ground - Holiday promotion! Domain and hosting for a year only $9.95! And a chance to win Ipad2!

03-15-2003, 12:48 PM	#48
G Sharp So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,343	After reading through your comments and also looking at my notes, its a very high possibility that REALLY GOOD [based on CTR ratio, reliability, and user reviews] gallery providers will get their payouts increased from .25 per gallery to as high as $1 per gallery. System income increases as the quality of the content increases so you should share in this as well. Still gathering info, please post all your concerns. Be as negative as you want just provide reasons and factual examples.

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03-15-2003, 12:52 PM	#50
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