dig420

you wanna live in a society with no rules where you have to protect yourself against the armed and violent??

"Life is solitary, poor, nasty, brutal and short."

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you only THINK you do.

Amputate Your Head

hard to believe there are still full blown anti-cop hippies roaming the streets in 2003

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TheFLY

You want my honest opinion -- check out Chinese medicine... 1000's of years of wisdom at your disposal... Your fear may be the result of a weak kidney... Are you on the pill? It could very well be the pill draining your kidney energy... I'm not making this up -- I read this from a doctor... Stop taking the pill -- then see if you have less fear.

PS: I don't eat microwaved food either -- I read a study that showed that microwaved food resulted in irregularities in blood cholesterol... there has been gag orders on this info, and nobody has ever done tests on people eating microwaved food -- I'd rather not risk it, besides food not microwaved tastes better...

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xanx

I find it is mostly from people that actually want to be cops or wanted to and for some reason never did.. not trying to start shit with anyone but i have just noticed that from experience

dig420

As for randomly sprayed bullets (drive-by), that's the result of drugs not being legal. Ask Ralph Nader -- you legalize-it and now you don't have drug lords... Did you know that the "war on drugs" led to worse crime and more deaths?
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the drug laws are horrible and draconian, granted. They lead to a lot of unnecessary violence, I'll grant you that too, I'm with you all the way. In fact, take away the drug laws and most of the hostility against the police would vanish overnight.

however, there are plenty of people out there who we DO need to be protected from, I guarantee you that. If you ever go to a prison or a homeless shelter or spend time on the streets you'll realize that it's no fun living in a dog eat dog world, and there are a LOT of truly evil predatory people in this world, and it's the cop's job to keep them down.

Cops are the tools of the government. If you have a bad government passing bad laws the people will hate the cops. If the goverment is just and is passing just laws people will view the cops very differently. You can't blame them for doing the job they're paid to do. Unless they're assholes about it.

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Amputate Your Head

You don?t understand or read post-subject concepts very well. Instead of going into detail of the true meaning of my post, oh hell for get it. Trying to make you understand would be like pitching Christianity to savages..hey hows the weather in Maui?

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dig420

it's not hippies that hate the cops, it's the thugs and the wanna-be thugs.

TheFLY

I want utopia just like you... I walk down the street any time of night and I look people in the eye when I need to... I avoid the neighborhoods where I know I'm not welcome... and when I'm an old man I'll do the same, only with a lot more game.

Here's my quote,

"Fear won't protect your money."

ThunderBalls

As a society there is absolutely no doubt we need police, but what gets me is their priorities are fucked up. In Denver it is the policy of the police force to not respond to certain property crimes (i.e. your car getting broken into) they tell you to come to the police station to file a report because they don't have the resources, even then they dont investigate shit.
Yet they have the resources to setup speed traps, prostitute sting operations, etc. Call the cops and tell them you smell pot coming from someones apartment and there will be 5 cop cars there within minutes. Unless it is something the city will profit from or a high profile case cops arent worth a shit.

dig420

Utopia can only come when we're dead. The best you can hope for is a populace sufficiently enlightened that most people treat others the way they want to be treated.

phogirl69

No I'm not on the pill, and I don't think I have a weak kidney. I'm just squeamish when it comes to stuff like doctors and needles and pain. And all the other things I'm scared of are legitimate issues. I was scared of cops because I had bad experiences getting traffic tickets and being tailed, I'm scared of the freeways because I knew someone that got in an accident and died on the freeway! As for having a baby, I heard a horror story of someone having to have a casarean without anasthesia because the doctors didn't have enough time... And having a baby hurts a lot, I wish men had to endure it instead of us!

Those are all real legitimate things to be afraid of i think

TheFLY

How ironic that you post a picture of an Amateur Radio operator... An ordinary citizen serving his community without a badge

dig420

put up a pic phogirl, maybe I'll protect you

TheFLY

Exactly -- no cop wants me pulling him/her over for a dead tail-light or asking pathetic questions like, "where are you going?"

phogirl69

You already saw a pic of me once on another board around a year ago... I'm not gonna say on the board which one it is because I look really ugly in it (bad camera) Msg me if you really wanna know.... If you remember, don't post it on the board, I'm keeping a low-profile .

xanx

Ted Bundy was finally caught because some cop decided to pull over a Volkswagen bug with a burnt out tag light

Amputate Your Head

luckily I'm not the one that has to live with discontent. The police aren't going anywhere anytime soon, and I'm perfectly okay with that.

There is no Utopia. The police are necessary because there are some pretty shitty people in the world. Are some of the cops themselves shitty? Sure. There's corruption everywhere. There are video store clerks who are corrupt too. Do you also hold an anti-video store clerk sentiment? Isn't he abusing his power of DVD rental sometimes?

If fucked up people didn't constantly invent new ways to do fucked up things, cops wouldn't be necessary. And neither would prisons, or the death penalty, or rape crisis centers, or women's shelters, or fucking AA, or traffic school, or any of that shit.

Welcome to fucking reality. Life's a mutha fucka. Deal with it.

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xanx

...and I bet he even asked where Ted was going at that hour

dig420

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phogirl69

Are tinted windows illegal? Some highway patrol officer once told me it was, even though mine are not completely tinted, they are just shaded because the car came that way when I bought it.

TheFLY

phogirl69

O'h, never mind then. It's ok tho, I think I can take care of myself , I'd rather not e-mail the pic, I'm keeping a low pro.

xanx

Each state has a % tint that is illeagle.. forget what it is here

TheFLY

You have a really hot orgasm voice I seem to remember... "From the nectar of the bone..."

Amputate Your Head

not really your job to pull cops over is it though

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iggysick

IMHO cops are cops are cops

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TheFLY

All I'm sayin is... why accept the status quo. Any system can be improved or made more efficient -- that's the way I look at everything... You're right, if we didn't need cops then we would save a hell of a lot of resources -- instead of just accepting that we need cops -- why not work toward the ultimate goal instead trying to tackle smaller, less-important problems like "How many times should I calibrate my radar gun?"

Look at the big picture -- cops aren't in it...

dig420

I'm an evil perv anyways

TheFLY

And I don't eat liver, what's your point?

Amputate Your Head

and IMHO, criminals are criminals are criminals. Smokin' ganja? That's illegal. Driving drunk? That's illegal. Stealing TVs? That's illegal. Killing people? That's illegal.

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dig420

disagree. there are violent criminals who deserve whatever they get, and there are people caught with weed in their pocket who don't deserve to be fucked with at all.

TheFLY

Amputate, you live in Hawaii... I bet your cops wear hula skirts...

Amputate Your Head

doesn't make any difference. I'm not debating penalties. I'm saying if you break the law, that makes you a lawbreaker. Regardless of severity. You can break any law you want.... as long as you understand there is a price for it, and don't cry about it when you gotta pay up.

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Amputate Your Head

nope.... they dress in black and carry weapons just like yours.

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Marcus

Has anyone ever talked you out of giving them a speeding ticket?

dig420

that I can agree with. I had a poli sci teacher who used to say you can do anything you want, you are completely free. As long as you're willing to pay the consequences.

I might cry about it though if it's a fucked up law.

TheFLY

Did you know that radar guns use the same technology as your microwave? It's called a magnetron -- secret government shit that was de-classified...

So cops radiate themselves every time they use the radar gun...

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dig420

I agree with you on the ?weed in your pocket? theory. I believe any one in prison for drug consumption convictions are not criminals. They might be sick and need treatment, but for damn sure not criminals.

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Amputate Your Head

exactly..... that was probly the one thing my old man told me back when I was a kid before he left this shitty world....

"Son, you can do any damn thing you want. Until you get caught."

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TheFLY

Problem is most laws are very vague... As we have seen in this thread -- cops can twist the truth, plant weapons, etc...

PLUS you got real subjective laws -- like weapon laws that allow the officer to consider any object threatening -- and laws that gives cops the right to harrass people minding their own business if the cop "feels the person is an immediate threat to the surrounding property or people in the area" -- which is more subjective bullshit...

Bottom line is cops can fuck with whoever they want, regardless of the "law"... If they don't like how you look or maybe they just have PMS -- you are fucked.

phogirl69

No, but once I got out of a "no proof of insurance" ticket. It was a highway patrol officer who pulled me over and I didn't have my insurance card in my car, it was at home. The officer told me the fine for proof of insurance was a lot , around 1k, so if I knew for sure that it was at my house, he would follow me in his car to my house so I can show him. My house was around 10-15 min away, and he followed me to my apartment. He even poked his head inside my messy place and asked me if I lived all by myself and I told him yes. I found the insurance card, showed it to him, and that was that.

Amputate Your Head

Possession of a controlled substance = crime.
Crime = criminal.

You know it's a crime going into it. Nobody is forcing you... you're doing it of your own free will. Which means you know the consequences. Doesn't matter if YOU think it's fucked up or not... until the majority says it's cool and they take the law off the books, you're a fucking criminal.

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I just got a boner OK time for bed.

dig420

there are just and unjust laws and penalties. If I remember right, you've posted a few times after having a couple drinks. In the 30's those drinks would have made you a criminal.

would you consider yourself a criminal for having a scotch & soda?

you have a right, an OBLIGATION, to bitch about unjust laws. That's how they get changed.

eventually.

Amputate Your Head

but this is not the 30's.... this is now.

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Amputate Your Head:

I know it's the law! I was stating an OPIONION. I know it's hard, but try and think outside the box.

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Amputate Your Head

there's laws I fuckin' hate too..... but I don't break them just because I don't like them.

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dig420

it might as well be prohibition all over again with the laws against marijuana.

ThunderBalls

Very true. I have a friend that met a girl in a bar a few years ago and they went out a few times. She told him she had a friend dying of cancer and wanted to know if he knew where to get some weed for him. My friend hadnt smoked pot for like 10 years but he told her he would ask around thinking that would be the end of it. She kept bugging the hell out of him for weeks telling him how much pain her 'dying friend' was in so he got some weed from someone he worked with and gave it to her (not sold, gave)just to shut her up. Turned out she was a cop and and as soon as he handed the weed to her he was surrounded by a dozen cops with guns pointed at him. They ended up taking his car, which he never got back, and is now a convicted felon, never been in trouble whatsoever his whole life. Nice system we have here.