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Pipecrew · 03-13-2003, 05:42 PM

Curious what the deal is...... I hear lots of stuff from different people, Just trying to get it straight, Do we have to be incorporated in The US and pay the 750 fees to use Ibill/ccbill and the others?

PaulSweet · 03-13-2003, 05:49 PM

Yes you need to pay the fee, and have a business setup there (with business address).

NoCarrier · 03-13-2003, 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew
Curious what the deal is...... I hear lots of stuff from different people, Just trying to get it straight, Do we have to be incorporated in The US and pay the 750 fees to use Ibill/ccbill and the others?

ACPAY does not require the fee and the incorporation

Pipecrew · 03-13-2003, 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier

ACPAY does not require the fee and the incorporation

Cool thanks

Alvaro · 03-13-2003, 06:24 PM

pipecrew, hit me up on icq, thanks

jact · 03-13-2003, 07:32 PM

I'm in the process of trying to figure this out myself. I contacted ACPay earlier today, unfortunately they don't meet my requirements.

Anyone know if Visa-USA will accept my application to process Visa if I incorporate in the USA without a US citizen as the primary shareholder? Input would be great, thanks.

xtype · 03-13-2003, 07:33 PM

what about globill?

hershie · 03-13-2003, 07:39 PM

WTF, i thought as Canadians, we were exempt from the $750 Visa fee and didn't have to incorporate in the US? This was the what iBill told me a few months back or am I totally mistaken?

jact · 03-13-2003, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by xtype
what about globill?

They're basically the same as ACPay.. Membership based sites should do well with either of them. No go for me

jact · 03-13-2003, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by hershie
WTF, i thought as Canadians, we were exempt from the $750 Visa fee and didn't have to incorporate in the US? This was the what iBill told me a few months back or am I totally mistaken?

You're exempt, as long as you don't want to offer Visa.

Pipecrew · 03-13-2003, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by jact
I'm in the process of trying to figure this out myself. I contacted ACPay earlier today, unfortunately they don't meet my requirements.

Anyone know if Visa-USA will accept my application to process Visa if I incorporate in the USA without a US citizen as the primary shareholder? Input would be great, thanks.

thats what I was unsure about as well, someone was swearing that as a canadian they didnt have to pay them

xtype · 03-13-2003, 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by jact

They're basically the same as ACPay.. Membership based sites should do well with either of them. No go for me

what were you using before?

jact · 03-13-2003, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by xtype

what were you using before?

Well, PSW Billing Solutions which other than them being a piece of shit customer service wise, are great. And Paypal, however PSW turned off my Visa, fine, Paypal is now turning off our everything, not so cool.

So hopefully I can get a US presence and pay some processors that $750 and get myself some Visa back. heh.

jact · 03-13-2003, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew

thats what I was unsure about as well, someone was swearing that as a canadian they didnt have to pay them

Visa-USA won't even look at an application from a Canadian, so of course you don't have to pay them. However if you want to process using Visa-USA, you have to have a US presence and pay the fees. I'm just not sure what exactly defines "US presence" to Visa. Some people have told me that I can simply incorporate and have an address (As PaulSweet said above) and others have told me that the primary shareholder has to be a US citizen with an SSN. Anyone know?

directfiesta · 03-13-2003, 07:50 PM

If you want to use the Ibill, Epoch, CCbill etc..., you need, as a canadian, to incorporate in the US, get a tax ID, and PAY the 750.00 fee . At this point, you don't need a US citizen, but that could change ( get a slut model as repondant for you.... or a trailer park one...).

Otherwise, you can use globill ( for how long???) or Epay or others ( Verotel - Dutchbilling).

If you go the incorporation way, I recommend these guys. Super service and no fuckup!

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xtype · 03-13-2003, 07:54 PM

Otherwise, you can use globill ( for how long???)

do you think that they won't last?

hershie · 03-13-2003, 07:59 PM

thoughts on epassporte as a solution for Canadians?

directfiesta · 03-13-2003, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by xtype
Otherwise, you can use globill ( for how long???)

do you think that they won't last?

I use them now:

pros: honest , reliable, answers emails, etc

cons: they went ahead to beat the Visa thing, by establishing a UK account . If Visa continues to enforce the rule of " you bill only in your own region", webmasters in Canada will be fucked.

Look at the Paypal thing today. This whole credit card thing consumes too much time, way more than it should.

I sell also hard goods, went in 4 years with Internet Secure, then Scotia Bank, then Verza, then CCnow, then Paysystems... All of them have pulled the rug from under my feet ....

So get ready, do a US presence. I have one , using it for rebills only with Ibill ( looks like I am getting my first check sionce dec.15th!!! ), but I can always in a day setup with them for memberships and hardgoods.

Keep your options open...

xtype · 03-13-2003, 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

I use them now:

pros: honest , reliable, answers emails, etc

cons: they went ahead to beat the Visa thing, by establishing a UK account . If Visa continues to enforce the rule of " you bill only in your own region", webmasters in Canada will be fucked.

Look at the Paypal thing today. This whole credit card thing consumes too much time, way more than it should.

I sell also hard goods, went in 4 years with Internet Secure, then Scotia Bank, then Verza, then CCnow, then Paysystems... All of them have pulled the rug from under my feet ....

So get ready, do a US presence. I have one , using it for rebills only with Ibill ( looks like I am getting my first check sionce dec.15th!!! ), but I can always in a day setup with them for memberships and hardgoods.

Keep your options open...

thx for the info....do you know the story on acpay...where are they located?

directfiesta · 03-13-2003, 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by xtype

thx for the info....do you know the story on acpay...where are they located?

UK... Same siutuation as Globill: risky on long term.

xtype · 03-13-2003, 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

UK... Same siutuation as Globill: risky on long term.

could you possibly hit me up on icq 228100...wouldn't mind asking you a few more questions

Pipecrew · 03-13-2003, 11:43 PM

Night Crew care to fill us in?

GTS Mark · 03-13-2003, 11:49 PM

Yeah I have heard good things about ACpay as well.

DH

SleazyDream · 03-13-2003, 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by hershie
thoughts on epassporte as a solution for Canadians?

epassport DID pay for your dinner last weekend...........

steffie · 03-13-2003, 11:52 PM

Try Verotel
see my sig

xoxox

hershie · 03-14-2003, 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream

epassport DID pay for your dinner last weekend...........

and I would love to give it my first consideration. I just am not sure if their solution is meant for an affiliate program and re-billing more then for me as a one-time transaction merchant based in Canada. Any info. on this would be appreciated.

NETbilling · 03-14-2003, 12:45 AM

directfiesta,

Since you are selling hard goods, wjy do you not have a merchant account and process with Netbilling? We can help you establish one through Surefire in Canada to use with our system. The rates are good and you will have control.

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Outside the US: (661)252-2456

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Thank you, Mitch Farber

03-13-2003, 05:42 PM	#1
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	Canadians and Processors Curious what the deal is...... I hear lots of stuff from different people, Just trying to get it straight, Do we have to be incorporated in The US and pay the 750 fees to use Ibill/ccbill and the others?

03-13-2003, 05:49 PM	#2
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03-13-2003, 07:39 PM	#8
hershie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,642	WTF, i thought as Canadians, we were exempt from the $750 Visa fee and didn't have to incorporate in the US? This was the what iBill told me a few months back or am I totally mistaken?

03-13-2003, 07:50 PM	#15
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,787	If you want to use the Ibill, Epoch, CCbill etc..., you need, as a canadian, to incorporate in the US, get a tax ID, and PAY the 750.00 fee . At this point, you don't need a US citizen, but that could change ( get a slut model as repondant for you.... or a trailer park one...). Otherwise, you can use globill ( for how long???) or Epay or others ( Verotel - Dutchbilling). If you go the incorporation way, I recommend these guys. Super service and no fuckup! <body bgcolor="white" text="black" link="blue" vlink="purple" alink="red"> <p> <a href="http://www.qksrv.net/click-1249282-9323464?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ailcorp.com" target="_blank" onmouseover="window.status='http://www.ailcorp.com';return true;" onmouseout="window.status=' ';return true;"> <img src="http://www.qksrv.net/image-1249282-9323464" width="120" height="30" alt="Incorporate Today for $25 plus state fees" border="0"></a></p> </body>

03-13-2003, 07:59 PM	#17
hershie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,642	thoughts on epassporte as a solution for Canadians?

03-13-2003, 11:43 PM	#22
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	Night Crew care to fill us in?

03-13-2003, 11:49 PM	#23
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Yeah I have heard good things about ACpay as well. DH

03-13-2003, 11:52 PM	#25
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03-14-2003, 12:45 AM	#27
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,589	directfiesta, Since you are selling hard goods, wjy do you not have a merchant account and process with Netbilling? We can help you establish one through Surefire in Canada to use with our system. The rates are good and you will have control. Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166 Outside the US: (661)252-2456 ICQ: 117496436 Thank you, Mitch Farber __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!