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kaylacam · 03-11-2003, 05:25 PM

WHy is it *so* difficult to pay a SMALL TIME cam girl?! Here is the basic break down:

CCBill sent out a check to me on Feb 24th...it did not arrive for a week, so I called CCBill, they put a stop-payment on it (NOT mentioning the $20 FEE!) They said they would group it with the NEXT check coming out to me, the one due to be sent on March 10, (the check sent out on the 3rd got here no problems)...they EVEN said they would send it out EARLY for me..on Thursday. I was *SO* excited...INSTEAD it got sent out Friday. This is Tuesday. I leave TOMORROW at 9am. No check. I was expecting this $770.00 to cover little things like...my cable modem (scheduled to be shut off tomorrow) and food while I am gone and just things like NOT having to walk around a strange place with $0.

I wrote a bad check to the cable company, my dog-sitter will take it AFTER 4pm tomorrow to keep the cable modem ON but hopefully the check will not clear until I get more money! I have a WHOPPING $33.16 in my checking account.

CCBills solution? According to Sean, I could have them put a stop-payment on THIS check (another $20 fee to put a stop payment on a check that includes the $20 fee from the PREVIOUSLY stop-paymented check) and then have them wire transfer money in to my account tomorrow (antoher fee, it would post to my account on Thursday). Btw, I LOVED the attitude I got: He was like, "Well, Kayla...if you paid to have it FedEx'd, I could snap my fingers and have an answer for you"

It has always been fairly easy to get guys to buy me drinks at clubs and such...I wonder if it works for food if you hit on them at a restaurant....LOL

So, basically...I need a new processor...IF I ever get that $770, it would even cover the $750.00 Visa fee!

CCBill has NOW made my to-do VooDoo list!

Kimmykim · 03-11-2003, 05:27 PM

Why not get them to wire you this time Kayla? You'd need to pay the wire fee, but that's the same way with every processor and it's not much more than Fedex...

Gman.357 · 03-11-2003, 05:28 PM

Just get your payments wired to you from now on.

Theo · 03-11-2003, 05:28 PM

doesnt ccbill pay with wire transfers? you should request getting paid this way since its your sponsor program and you'll avoid a lot of problem.

kaylacam · 03-11-2003, 05:29 PM

I will. Just won't happen in time for my 9am flight!

Gman.357 · 03-11-2003, 05:29 PM

Sorry Kimmy, didn't see your reply when I made mine. I see we had the same mode of thinking there.

gothweb · 03-11-2003, 05:29 PM

If, and I stress If, it was their fault, I think they should cover the wire fee to get your the money you should already have.

Kimmykim · 03-11-2003, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gman.357
Sorry Kimmy, didn't see your reply when I made mine. I see we had the same mode of thinking there.

Absolutely

Theo · 03-11-2003, 05:29 PM

damn! 3 same replies at the same time ll

kaylacam · 03-11-2003, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
If, and I stress If, it was their fault, I think they should cover the wire fee to get your the money you should already have.

I agree! I also think it was unfair to get charged the $20 stop-payment when I called them to tell them the reason the original check had not made it here was due to improper folding! My postal carrier had to open it to find my address.

I LOVE how all of CCBill's replies to me basically started with, "For an additional $XX...we could..."

Gman.357 · 03-11-2003, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kaylacam

I agree! I also think it was unfair to get charged the $20 stop-payment when I called them to tell them the reason the original check had not made it here was due to improper folding! My postal carrier had to open it to find my address.

I LOVE how all of CCBill's replies to me basically started with, "For an additional $XX...we could..."

Improper folding?? I'd be more pissed at the postal service than CCbill.

Rictor · 03-11-2003, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kaylacam

It has always been fairly easy to get guys to buy me drinks at clubs and such...I wonder if it works for food if you hit on them at a restaurant....LOL

Go to a restaurant that has a happy hour buffet and you should be hooked up.

kaylacam · 03-11-2003, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by Gman.357

Improper folding?? I'd be more pissed at the postal service than CCbill.

Why? CCBill folded my check so my address was NOT showing thru the window.
I even asked them if they had started ordering their envelopes from a nwe company! lol

CDSmith · 03-11-2003, 05:53 PM

Kayla..... get on a different plane and come visit me for a week, and I'll pay your cable modem bill for ya for the next 6 months.

stocktrader23 · 03-11-2003, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kaylacam

Why? CCBill folded my check so my address was NOT showing thru the window.
I even asked them if they had started ordering their envelopes from a nwe company! lol

If you need some quick cash deposit the check that had a stop payment until your money shows up. Will be good for a few days anyway, lol. Make sure to hold out enough for your flight.

Gman.357 · 03-11-2003, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by kaylacam

Why? CCBill folded my check so my address was NOT showing thru the window.
I even asked them if they had started ordering their envelopes from a nwe company! lol

Because it sounds like a bullshit line the postal service gives you when they fuck up. You said the postal carrier had to open the letter to see the address. If this was true, how did the carrier get the letter to begin with? It should have been IMMEDIATELY returned to sender while it was being sorted.

Or was that actually the case?

Also, were you the only one that had a problem with that batch of checks, because I don't represent CCBill or anything, but I know that all checks are folded by a machine, and not by hand. So if there was a problem with the machine, you would think that more folks than yourself would have had a problem. It would be a massive problem.

Just sounds like typical postal service fuckup to me.

BluMedia · 03-11-2003, 06:19 PM

I completly agree screw checks pay the fee and get it wired. Checks are a pain.

Mark

Sly_RJ · 03-11-2003, 06:24 PM

This is silly. The time frame involved here is very short. How someone can get so pissed off about this is beyond me. I understand your dissatisfaction in not having the checks NOW, but come on Kayla...

Having under $50 in your checking account is bad news. Especially when you're self employed. Rough times can and will happen. Do yourself a favor and start saving up a little cash to use in "emergencies" like this. I'm sure you'll run into this problem again...

Jer · 03-11-2003, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
This is silly. The time frame involved here is very short. How someone can get so pissed off about this is beyond me. I understand your dissatisfaction in not having the checks NOW, but come on Kayla...

Having under $50 in your checking account is bad news. Especially when you're self employed. Rough times can and will happen. Do yourself a favor and start saving up a little cash to use in "emergencies" like this. I'm sure you'll run into this problem again...

I agree 100%. If I was waiting for this $2k UCBill/Purityscan check and had $50 in my bank account I would be fucked big time.
Shit happens in this business. A LOT.

ronin · 03-11-2003, 06:52 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by kaylacam

I have a WHOPPING $33.16 in my checking account.

Do you have a savings account?

boneprone · 03-11-2003, 06:54 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ronin

Quote:

Originally posted by kaylacam

I have a WHOPPING $33.16 in my checking account.

Do you have a savings account?

33.16 will buy you 8 burger King Value Meals.

I prefer value meal #1

boneprone · 03-11-2003, 06:56 PM

I have a stack of FREE CHALUPA TICKETS here at home I get whenever the Blazers score over 100 points.

Just in case CCBILL FUCKS ME I keep those tickets close.

In all seriousness I suggest that you all have backups as I do.

Phil21 · 03-11-2003, 07:05 PM

Probably just she doesn't have the means to save (yet).

Even though we're not exactly hopping with cash over here, it was a while before we had more than an months worth of opex in the bank.

Kayla, if you want me to float you a bit to pay the bills so you don't bounce checks hit my ICQ in my profile. No, it's not because you're a chick, I've just been in the same situation and it sucks ass. Now that I have the means, a couple hundred bucks doesn't matter all too much in the long run if it helps someone out.

-Phil

rdunn404 · 03-11-2003, 07:07 PM

I've never understood how people can receive a check for hundreds or thousands of dollars and rely on a 37 cent stamp and disgruntled postal employees for it to get to them. Accountability should be the key of your biz, you should want to be able to track where your money is, and get it quickly, especially if your finances go check to check at times.

boneprone · 03-11-2003, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phil21
Probably just she doesn't have the means to save (yet).

Even though we're not exactly hopping with cash over here, it was a while before we had more than an months worth of opex in the bank.

Kayla, if you want me to float you a bit to pay the bills so you don't bounce checks hit my ICQ in my profile. No, it's not because you're a chick, I've just been in the same situation and it sucks ass. Now that I have the means, a couple hundred bucks doesn't matter all too much in the long run if it helps someone out.

-Phil

Can you send me some cash?
Ive placed some bad bets this week and could use a floater.

Kimmykim · 03-11-2003, 07:13 PM

I think Kayla is just frustrated guys, shes had a rough week or so.

Things will be fine, she's a rather smart girl at the end of the day.

SGS · 03-11-2003, 07:14 PM

CCBill are the best.

boneprone · 03-11-2003, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
I think Kayla is just frustrated guys, shes had a rough week or so.

Things will be fine, she's a rather smart girl at the end of the day.

Ive always been impressed with her.
Her site and her marketing has been great.

I dont think she posted this post to beg for cash, she's just posting like we all do when we are pissed. When you plan and budget for X amount of money to come in and there are X amount of problems getting it, its understandable why she's pissed.

We've all been through her situation one time or another.

boneprone · 03-11-2003, 07:19 PM

However I still suggest Value meal number 1

Kimmykim · 03-11-2003, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
However I still suggest Value meal number 1

Did you write a bad check for it?

boneprone · 03-11-2003, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

Did you write a bad check for it?

No..
I only send those to Brad Shaw when he disrespects me.

Kimmykim · 03-11-2003, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

No..
I only send those to Brad Shaw when he disrespects me.

I get the assist on that one right?

boneprone · 03-11-2003, 07:29 PM

yeap.

You be my stockton

PerfectionGirls · 03-11-2003, 07:33 PM

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I think Kayla is just frustrated guys

Yeah KK... you hot the nail on the head. Seems more frustrated then anything.

Kayle... also... the Fedx fee is not a ccbill fee, they just pass on the cost to you. Its not a charge that ccbill adds and then makes a profit on. I just have my checks wired like most people do. it's always there Monday afternoon and its never a worry.

Also... most banks offer overdraft protection. If you dont have it, sign up for it. It can be a great tool in rough times. Also.... as others have said, please get yourself a rainy day fund. Its not ccbills fault you ran low on cash.

jimmyf · 03-11-2003, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gman.357

Because it sounds like a bullshit line the postal service gives you when they fuck up. You said the postal carrier had to open the letter to see the address. If this was true, how did the carrier get the letter to begin with? It should have been IMMEDIATELY returned to sender while it was being sorted.

Or was that actually the case?

Also, were you the only one that had a problem with that batch of checks, because I don't represent CCBill or anything, but I know that all checks are folded by a machine, and not by hand. So if there was a problem with the machine, you would think that more folks than yourself would have had a problem. It would be a massive problem.

Just sounds like typical postal service fuckup to me.

I bet it's above case. For 3 years I never had a problem getting my ccbill checks, then I moved, 1st check didn't come, 2nd check didn't come, I call ccbill and it just so happened ( I was lucky ) got an emila from ccbill came,(takes any where 10 to 15 days for the returned mail 2 get back to them) mail was returned address problem, anyway 1st check was on someone desk to be put back in the system, by then 3rd check was returned

because of incomplete address. I confronted the postal lady, ( I'm the only one with my last and 1st name living here ) the Apt. number was not one the check and she told me she had 2 return the mail and would not leave it unless my Apt. number was on it (Fucking Bitch

) . for some reason ccbill's system was not picking up the 2nd line of my address, they did an manual enter.

Another time I had a problem and Kimmykim had the programer fix it. I must admit if it were not for her I'd still be fucked, because the Tech. support did not see anything wrong.

And about a month or 2 ago, I contacted them, Tech support did not find anything wrong, I ask them PLEASE (at least 3 times) have the programmer look at this. Well someone said they did, I don't fucking believe them OR they are scrubbing like hell, one of the 2 I don't know. Kimmykim

please go back 2 work for ccbill. I really think if they or most support just shine you if they can't find anything wrong, this person is full of it. Well Kimmykim went the extra what ever, and did find something.

gothweb · 03-11-2003, 07:44 PM

I love CCBill. They aren't perfect, but they are clearly the best.

...But does anyone else find it daffy that they charge 12.5-15% of all transactions, and then deduct the 37¢ each time the send a check? Isn't the percentage (in part) there to cover their overhead? Why the nickle-and-dime?

corvette · 03-11-2003, 07:45 PM

Hi Kayla,
If a webmaster tells us that they want their checks sent by postal mail, we can promise you that we will drop them into a mailbox each Monday morning. Most webmasters are happy with this method. However, if you need to have your money in your account the next day, or a FedEx tracking number in your email gives you peace of mind, we offer those options as well.

We can?t guarantee that the post office will deliver a check to you within 3 business days, but we will do whatever we can to get your money over to you?we want you to get your check as bad as you do.

We do our best to work with our webmasters and would like to keep them satisfied. Send me an email with a good telephone number for you and your CCBill account number and I will give you a call.

[email protected]

Snake Doctor · 03-11-2003, 08:26 PM

Living hand to mouth is a bad thing even when you work for someone else and are practically guaranteed a check every Friday.

In this business its really asking for it. If you can't skip a couple of checks and still be able to pay your bills, you should keep your day job and do this part time until you have enough of a nest egg to get you by in case of emergency.

Little shit like postal errors happen all the time, and then there's big shit that happens sometimes as well. Like a per sign up company that paid once a month having its assets frozen. There were a lot of people waiting on checks for 10K or more that were in serious financial trouble over that one.
Or when a certain amateur 50/50 program decided to close its doors forever and you're out several thousand a month in rebills.
Or losing your rebills because a processor went tits up (that's happened twice I believe)

None of this plan ahead shit that we're all spewing out is going to help you today, but hopefully it will in the future

FlyingIguana · 03-11-2003, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
I have a stack of FREE CHALUPA TICKETS here at home I get whenever the Blazers score over 100 points.

Just in case CCBILL FUCKS ME I keep those tickets close.

In all seriousness I suggest that you all have backups as I do.

i have a bag of bbq peanuts

FlyingIguana · 03-11-2003, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2
Living hand to mouth is a bad thing even when you work for someone else and are practically guaranteed a check every Friday.

In this business its really asking for it. If you can't skip a couple of checks and still be able to pay your bills, you should keep your day job and do this part time until you have enough of a nest egg to get you by in case of emergency.

Little shit like postal errors happen all the time, and then there's big shit that happens sometimes as well. Like a per sign up company that paid once a month having its assets frozen. There were a lot of people waiting on checks for 10K or more that were in serious financial trouble over that one.
Or when a certain amateur 50/50 program decided to close its doors forever and you're out several thousand a month in rebills.
Or losing your rebills because a processor went tits up (that's happened twice I believe)

None of this plan ahead shit that we're all spewing out is going to help you today, but hopefully it will in the future

oh my, so many bad memories! but very good advice

Voodoo · 03-11-2003, 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by kaylacam
...CCBill has NOW made my to-do VooDoo list!

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1. Get Naked
2. Get Voodoo Naked
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Brad Mitchell · 03-11-2003, 08:44 PM

Kayla... sounds like you're having a rough week. Hang in there, this has happened to all of us at one time or another.

CCBill is still #1 in my opinion for innumerable reasons.

Just remember that we're all human... whether the 3rd party billing company had just 1 employee or 1000 employees, mistakes happen. Owning an affiliate program myself and doing all of the checkwriting and mailing each month I've certainly made mistakes... everyone does.

Also remember that it's important to have policies, even if they're sometimes irritating. Whether it's a small regular fee like for postage, wire transfer or overnight - these are the things that add up to huge dollars. Like it or not each company has to make a profit, cover payroll and and somehow find the funds to reinvest in themselves. What I think might not be as obvious to all of us here is the *likely* thousands of nearly dormant accounts that CCBill probably disburses small amounts of funds to weekly. Things like charging for postage and overnights aren't necessarily in place so that the $500+/week customers get charged - it's for the proponderance of small payouts that are way below that figure.

On one last note... I've sent affiliate checks out that have taken over 30 days to be returned as undeliverable. Usually the USPS is teriffic but these things do happen. My advice? If you're like me and you budget precisely every month from deposit to deposit then just consider this a lesson learned and pay the fee for a wire transfer. There is nothing more timely or reliable than a wire transfer. Best of luck!

Brad

Kimmykim · 03-11-2003, 08:45 PM

jimmyf -- if you have problems with CCBill, even though I am not employed there ( ok, you got me I'm not actually an employee anywhere, damned unemployed lol) I will be happy to try and help you out since I still have many good friends and a great group to work with there --

I love Kayla to death but if her check was folded wrong then alot of others have to be too.

corvett offered to cancel her checks at no charge and have her pay the wire fee to get her money when I was harassing him earlier --

tony286 · 03-11-2003, 09:04 PM

I have ibill and they pay on time everytime but since we are growing I am seriously thinking about a merchant account I am surprised many more dont think about doing that. With Visa now you are exposed to them anyway, no more worries about will my third party processor fold. If you run a straight up business charge backs shouldnt be a problem. Working with a third party processor I still feel my fate is still in someone elses hands like when I worked a day job. They all tend to take a really blase attitude toward the fact its your money they are getting 15% of . Also I think its so important to have a base of money just sitting there. We have had some scary problems but knowing we had the money to weather the storm made the difference. Also Kayla you are a very sweet girl I would re examine your business plan considering how long you have been around, You have a hot site and its rated pretty high in Alexa one or two checks shouldnt be a issue between broke and not broke. Something is not working correctly, Did you contact that local guy I told you about ?

kaylacam · 03-11-2003, 10:08 PM

Yeah guys and gals, I am just grumpy as all hell today and venting. Thank you for the offers for some moolah to hold me over, but I will make it. I am scheduled to fly out to cover a Spring Break thing tomorrow, tickets were free...where there are beer, men and bi-women, I will ALWAYS be fed...might be cock, might be pussy but hey, I will eat someone! Eerr...something!

I might whine and bitch, but I do *not* take handouts! Well...except from my members! LOL

Kimmykim · 03-11-2003, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
yeap.

You be my stockton

You can call me Pippen ok?

EscortBiz · 03-11-2003, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kaylacam
Yeah guys and gals, I am just grumpy as all hell today and venting. Thank you for the offers for some moolah to hold me over, but I will make it. I am scheduled to fly out to cover a Spring Break thing tomorrow, tickets were free...where there are beer, men and bi-women, I will ALWAYS be fed...might be cock, might be pussy but hey, I will eat someone! Eerr...something!

I might whine and bitch, but I do *not* take handouts! Well...except from my members! LOL

Have a good trip and Eat Safe

kaylacam · 03-11-2003, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz

Have a good trip and Eat Safe

LOL
Thanks!

Eric-Red-Eyes will take care of me...won't he?

Toker · 03-11-2003, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kaylacam
WHy is it *so* difficult to pay a SMALL TIME cam girl?! Here is the basic break down:

CCBill sent out a check to me on Feb 24th...it did not arrive for a week, so I called CCBill, they put a stop-payment on it (NOT mentioning the $20 FEE!) They said they would group it with the NEXT check coming out to me, the one due to be sent on March 10, (the check sent out on the 3rd got here no problems)...they EVEN said they would send it out EARLY for me..on Thursday. I was *SO* excited...INSTEAD it got sent out Friday. This is Tuesday. I leave TOMORROW at 9am. No check. I was expecting this $770.00 to cover little things like...my cable modem (scheduled to be shut off tomorrow) and food while I am gone and just things like NOT having to walk around a strange place with $0.

I wrote a bad check to the cable company, my dog-sitter will take it AFTER 4pm tomorrow to keep the cable modem ON but hopefully the check will not clear until I get more money! I have a WHOPPING $33.16 in my checking account.

CCBills solution? According to Sean, I could have them put a stop-payment on THIS check (another $20 fee to put a stop payment on a check that includes the $20 fee from the PREVIOUSLY stop-paymented check) and then have them wire transfer money in to my account tomorrow (antoher fee, it would post to my account on Thursday). Btw, I LOVED the attitude I got: He was like, "Well, Kayla...if you paid to have it FedEx'd, I could snap my fingers and have an answer for you"

It has always been fairly easy to get guys to buy me drinks at clubs and such...I wonder if it works for food if you hit on them at a restaurant....LOL

So, basically...I need a new processor...IF I ever get that $770, it would even cover the $750.00 Visa fee!

CCBill has NOW made my to-do VooDoo list!

They FedEx mine and I get it every Tuesday without fail and have for 6 years...

03-11-2003, 05:28 PM	#3
Gman.357 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 2,796	Just get your payments wired to you from now on. __________________ Ouch.

03-11-2003, 05:29 PM	#5
kaylacam Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Less camgirl than porn chickie...conveniently located in Porn Central. Posts: 2,745	I will. Just won't happen in time for my 9am flight! __________________ SPANK! Kayla Quinn http://www.TushyCash.com

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Gman.357 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 2,796	Sorry Kimmy, didn't see your reply when I made mine. I see we had the same mode of thinking there. __________________ Ouch.

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03-11-2003, 05:25 PM	#1
kaylacam Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Less camgirl than porn chickie...conveniently located in Porn Central. Posts: 2,745	Just hung up on CCBill.... WHy is it so difficult to pay a SMALL TIME cam girl?! Here is the basic break down: CCBill sent out a check to me on Feb 24th...it did not arrive for a week, so I called CCBill, they put a stop-payment on it (NOT mentioning the $20 FEE!) They said they would group it with the NEXT check coming out to me, the one due to be sent on March 10, (the check sent out on the 3rd got here no problems)...they EVEN said they would send it out EARLY for me..on Thursday. I was SO excited...INSTEAD it got sent out Friday. This is Tuesday. I leave TOMORROW at 9am. No check. I was expecting this $770.00 to cover little things like...my cable modem (scheduled to be shut off tomorrow) and food while I am gone and just things like NOT having to walk around a strange place with $0. I wrote a bad check to the cable company, my dog-sitter will take it AFTER 4pm tomorrow to keep the cable modem ON but hopefully the check will not clear until I get more money! I have a WHOPPING $33.16 in my checking account. CCBills solution? According to Sean, I could have them put a stop-payment on THIS check (another $20 fee to put a stop payment on a check that includes the $20 fee from the PREVIOUSLY stop-paymented check) and then have them wire transfer money in to my account tomorrow (antoher fee, it would post to my account on Thursday). Btw, I LOVED the attitude I got: He was like, "Well, Kayla...if you paid to have it FedEx'd, I could snap my fingers and have an answer for you" It has always been fairly easy to get guys to buy me drinks at clubs and such...I wonder if it works for food if you hit on them at a restaurant....LOL So, basically...I need a new processor...IF I ever get that $770, it would even cover the $750.00 Visa fee! CCBill has NOW made my to-do VooDoo list! __________________ SPANK! Kayla Quinn http://www.TushyCash.com

03-11-2003, 05:27 PM	#2
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Why not get them to wire you this time Kayla? You'd need to pay the wire fee, but that's the same way with every processor and it's not much more than Fedex...

03-11-2003, 05:28 PM	#4
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	doesnt ccbill pay with wire transfers? you should request getting paid this way since its your sponsor program and you'll avoid a lot of problem.

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BluMedia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,973	I completly agree screw checks pay the fee and get it wired. Checks are a pain. Mark __________________ IntenseCash - If you can't convert us then you might want to look for a new job . BrokeStraightBoys.com converting 1:124 stats counted by Nats

03-11-2003, 06:24 PM	#18
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	This is silly. The time frame involved here is very short. How someone can get so pissed off about this is beyond me. I understand your dissatisfaction in not having the checks NOW, but come on Kayla... Having under $50 in your checking account is bad news. Especially when you're self employed. Rough times can and will happen. Do yourself a favor and start saving up a little cash to use in "emergencies" like this. I'm sure you'll run into this problem again... __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

03-11-2003, 06:52 PM	#20
ronin Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Main St. Posts: 1,300	[QUOTE]Originally posted by kaylacam I have a WHOPPING $33.16 in my checking account. Do you have a savings account?

03-11-2003, 06:56 PM	#22
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	I have a stack of FREE CHALUPA TICKETS here at home I get whenever the Blazers score over 100 points. Just in case CCBILL FUCKS ME I keep those tickets close. In all seriousness I suggest that you all have backups as I do. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

03-11-2003, 07:05 PM	#23
Phil21 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ICQ: 25285313 Posts: 993	Probably just she doesn't have the means to save (yet). Even though we're not exactly hopping with cash over here, it was a while before we had more than an months worth of opex in the bank. Kayla, if you want me to float you a bit to pay the bills so you don't bounce checks hit my ICQ in my profile. No, it's not because you're a chick, I've just been in the same situation and it sucks ass. Now that I have the means, a couple hundred bucks doesn't matter all too much in the long run if it helps someone out. -Phil

03-11-2003, 07:07 PM	#24
rdunn404 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 999	I've never understood how people can receive a check for hundreds or thousands of dollars and rely on a 37 cent stamp and disgruntled postal employees for it to get to them. Accountability should be the key of your biz, you should want to be able to track where your money is, and get it quickly, especially if your finances go check to check at times.

03-11-2003, 07:13 PM	#26
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	I think Kayla is just frustrated guys, shes had a rough week or so. Things will be fine, she's a rather smart girl at the end of the day.

03-11-2003, 07:14 PM	#27
SGS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mallorca - Nottingham Posts: 5,176	CCBill are the best. __________________ See sig...

03-11-2003, 07:19 PM	#29
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	However I still suggest Value meal number 1 __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

03-11-2003, 07:29 PM	#33
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	yeap. You be my stockton __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

03-11-2003, 07:44 PM	#36
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I love CCBill. They aren't perfect, but they are clearly the best. ...But does anyone else find it daffy that they charge 12.5-15% of all transactions, and then deduct the 37¢ each time the send a check? Isn't the percentage (in part) there to cover their overhead? Why the nickle-and-dime? __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

03-11-2003, 07:45 PM	#37
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	Hi Kayla, If a webmaster tells us that they want their checks sent by postal mail, we can promise you that we will drop them into a mailbox each Monday morning. Most webmasters are happy with this method. However, if you need to have your money in your account the next day, or a FedEx tracking number in your email gives you peace of mind, we offer those options as well. We can?t guarantee that the post office will deliver a check to you within 3 business days, but we will do whatever we can to get your money over to you?we want you to get your check as bad as you do. We do our best to work with our webmasters and would like to keep them satisfied. Send me an email with a good telephone number for you and your CCBill account number and I will give you a call. [email protected] __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

03-11-2003, 08:26 PM	#38
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Living hand to mouth is a bad thing even when you work for someone else and are practically guaranteed a check every Friday. In this business its really asking for it. If you can't skip a couple of checks and still be able to pay your bills, you should keep your day job and do this part time until you have enough of a nest egg to get you by in case of emergency. Little shit like postal errors happen all the time, and then there's big shit that happens sometimes as well. Like a per sign up company that paid once a month having its assets frozen. There were a lot of people waiting on checks for 10K or more that were in serious financial trouble over that one. Or when a certain amateur 50/50 program decided to close its doors forever and you're out several thousand a month in rebills. Or losing your rebills because a processor went tits up (that's happened twice I believe) None of this plan ahead shit that we're all spewing out is going to help you today, but hopefully it will in the future __________________ sig too big

03-11-2003, 08:44 PM	#42
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	Kayla... sounds like you're having a rough week. Hang in there, this has happened to all of us at one time or another. CCBill is still #1 in my opinion for innumerable reasons. Just remember that we're all human... whether the 3rd party billing company had just 1 employee or 1000 employees, mistakes happen. Owning an affiliate program myself and doing all of the checkwriting and mailing each month I've certainly made mistakes... everyone does. Also remember that it's important to have policies, even if they're sometimes irritating. Whether it's a small regular fee like for postage, wire transfer or overnight - these are the things that add up to huge dollars. Like it or not each company has to make a profit, cover payroll and and somehow find the funds to reinvest in themselves. What I think might not be as obvious to all of us here is the likely thousands of nearly dormant accounts that CCBill probably disburses small amounts of funds to weekly. Things like charging for postage and overnights aren't necessarily in place so that the $500+/week customers get charged - it's for the proponderance of small payouts that are way below that figure. On one last note... I've sent affiliate checks out that have taken over 30 days to be returned as undeliverable. Usually the USPS is teriffic but these things do happen. My advice? If you're like me and you budget precisely every month from deposit to deposit then just consider this a lesson learned and pay the fee for a wire transfer. There is nothing more timely or reliable than a wire transfer. Best of luck! Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

03-11-2003, 08:45 PM	#43
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	jimmyf -- if you have problems with CCBill, even though I am not employed there ( ok, you got me I'm not actually an employee anywhere, damned unemployed lol) I will be happy to try and help you out since I still have many good friends and a great group to work with there -- I love Kayla to death but if her check was folded wrong then alot of others have to be too. corvett offered to cancel her checks at no charge and have her pay the wire fee to get her money when I was harassing him earlier --

03-11-2003, 09:04 PM	#44
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I have ibill and they pay on time everytime but since we are growing I am seriously thinking about a merchant account I am surprised many more dont think about doing that. With Visa now you are exposed to them anyway, no more worries about will my third party processor fold. If you run a straight up business charge backs shouldnt be a problem. Working with a third party processor I still feel my fate is still in someone elses hands like when I worked a day job. They all tend to take a really blase attitude toward the fact its your money they are getting 15% of . Also I think its so important to have a base of money just sitting there. We have had some scary problems but knowing we had the money to weather the storm made the difference. Also Kayla you are a very sweet girl I would re examine your business plan considering how long you have been around, You have a hot site and its rated pretty high in Alexa one or two checks shouldnt be a issue between broke and not broke. Something is not working correctly, Did you contact that local guy I told you about ?

03-11-2003, 10:08 PM	#45
kaylacam Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Less camgirl than porn chickie...conveniently located in Porn Central. Posts: 2,745	Yeah guys and gals, I am just grumpy as all hell today and venting. Thank you for the offers for some moolah to hold me over, but I will make it. I am scheduled to fly out to cover a Spring Break thing tomorrow, tickets were free...where there are beer, men and bi-women, I will ALWAYS be fed...might be cock, might be pussy but hey, I will eat someone! Eerr...something! I might whine and bitch, but I do not take handouts! Well...except from my members! LOL __________________ SPANK! Kayla Quinn http://www.TushyCash.com