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Rikki-Nyx · 05-03-2014, 12:45 AM

so an affil sent in 2 joins yesterday from only 220 Referrals...

is that even doable these days? is there any way to check if they're doing something they shouldn't be

SmutGiant · 05-03-2014, 12:56 AM

Check member activity. Red flag if no activity after signup.

bean-aid · 05-03-2014, 01:00 AM

Just email aff and say thank you. Then hope this thread gets burried. Not only is it possible but it is very, very easy. You own a program?

BIGTYMER · 05-03-2014, 01:03 AM

Either a total newb or spam.

Totally possible. Don't stress.

klinton · 05-03-2014, 01:05 AM

totally possible........you should be happy for having him, unless he is a cheater of course

Seth Manson · 05-03-2014, 01:09 AM

Just sounds like a guy who is fairly good at targeting his traffic. This is how real webmasters used to be.

rockeru · 05-03-2014, 09:32 AM

Yes very possible I have sponsors converting like that.

lucas131 · 05-03-2014, 09:34 AM

go and ban him, then refund the members, and then go to doctor ask if everything is ok with you ...

Fat Panda · 05-03-2014, 09:39 AM

sounds perfectly normal

fitzmulti · 05-03-2014, 09:44 AM

...ask him for 180 more visitors...so you can get another sale.

ErectMedia · 05-03-2014, 09:48 AM

As frequent as the old days=no, still possible for those that target quality/niche visitors over quantity. I'll take 10k targeted/niche visitors over 100k bulk anyday.

pornmasta · 05-03-2014, 09:55 AM

find where the traffic comes from.
ban him
do like him
profit

KaliC · 05-03-2014, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikki-Nyx

so an affil sent in 2 joins yesterday from only 220 Referrals...

is that even doable these days? is there any way to check if they're doing something they shouldn't be

Yeah that's good, most people are just fishing for free content.

deltav · 05-03-2014, 12:24 PM

Not bad at all. Now the question is, can he keep anything remotely close to that up over a statistically worthwhile sample size, or was it just luck? I mean, I can find many instances of 2 sales 50 uniques apart - doesn't mean that's anywhere near my normal conversion rate. Just an outlier.

signupdamnit · 05-03-2014, 12:35 PM

It's possible. Here are a few possibilities.

1. Statistical anomaly. See if that ratio holds over time.
2. The affiliate is doing heavy filtering, possibly even hosting their own pre-join page, etc maybe?

You should already know what to look for as far as fraud. If not ask your processor and a pay site owner here to help explain it. Basically just look for things which don't pass the smell test.

InfoGuy · 05-03-2014, 12:45 PM

Targeted traffic can certainly still convert at more than 1:100, but since OP didn't say it was a new affiliate account, I'm going to agree with deltav that this was just an outlier in the bell curve. If it's a new affiliate, then it's more likely a cheater and less likely someone who knows what they're doing.

Nice_Nick · 05-03-2014, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

find where the traffic comes from.
ban him
do like him
profit

deltav · 05-03-2014, 01:34 PM

Thing is, with 2 data points like this you can find all sorts of crazy numbers because all you're looking for is simple point-to-point. Once to start plotting even say as few as 5-10 points (sales) you'll get a much clearer picture. And then with 100+ you'll have a pretty good statistical model that should only majorly fluctuate from changes to the traffic sources or converting site.

eroticfem · 05-03-2014, 03:41 PM

Best i ever had was 1:1 on DDGCash.

mamaliga · 05-03-2014, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

Just sounds like a guy who is fairly good at targeting his traffic. This is how real webmasters used to be.

sorry but in 2014 i call bullshit what you said.

Just Alex · 05-03-2014, 04:53 PM

Run IP address in google and see if its aproxy

pornmasta · 05-03-2014, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nice_Nick

don't forget to watch my signature :D

Zeiss · 05-03-2014, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikki-Nyx

so an affil sent in 2 joins yesterday from only 220 Referrals...

is that even doable these days? is there any way to check if they're doing something they shouldn't be

Why not? If they know how to target...

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmutGiant

Check member activity. Red flag if no activity after signup.

Sure, but give them some time first.

Romainz · 05-03-2014, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

find where the traffic comes from.
ban him
do like him
profit

Chris · 05-03-2014, 08:51 PM

i do less than 1:100 on two programs

http://manicamoney.com always below 1:25
http://reallyusefulcash.com about 1:75

disclaimer : i rank in the top 10 with keywords related to the domain that send insanely highly qualified traffic

Seth Manson · 05-04-2014, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mamaliga

sorry but in 2014 i call bullshit what you said.

If my ratios ever went as high as 1:100 I'd drop the program because it's not a match for my traffic. I'd start looking for a replacement at 1:50.

I dont have time for bullshit.

WebmastersLegion · 09-05-2014, 05:27 PM

well 100% targeted traffic to reallyuserfulcash and im getting Total 12,455 0 0 0 0:12455 0 0 0 0 $0.00 $0.00 this month

Focus · 09-06-2014, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebmastersLegion

well 100% targeted traffic to reallyuserfulcash and im getting Total 12,455 0 0 0 0:12455 0 0 0 0 $0.00 $0.00 this month

You should try different sponsor man damn.... Sorry for ur lost

lock · 09-06-2014, 02:39 AM

If your paying per sign up it maybe a problem. Some members also will sign up and pay more than once too. 2 in 200 Is great conversion if actual but only time will tell.

The Porn Nerd · 09-06-2014, 04:49 AM

Keep an eye on it.

3xmedia · 09-06-2014, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebmastersLegion

well 100% targeted traffic to reallyuserfulcash and im getting Total 12,455 0 0 0 0:12455 0 0 0 0 $0.00 $0.00 this month

depends on what you mean by "100 targeted traffic". if you mean their sites's names then their original sites most likely rank better than you and then that ratio doesn't surprise me at all.

anexsia · 09-06-2014, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikki-Nyx

so an affil sent in 2 joins yesterday from only 220 Referrals...

is that even doable these days? is there any way to check if they're doing something they shouldn't be

I'm 1:176 with Nasty Dollars, yes it's very doable

signupdamnit · 09-06-2014, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebmastersLegion

well 100% targeted traffic to reallyuserfulcash and im getting Total 12,455 0 0 0 0:12455 0 0 0 0 $0.00 $0.00 this month

Do a search on that program here.

WebmastersLegion · 09-06-2014, 06:44 AM

you guys recommend me Revshare or pps? switching my traffic to other sites!

JA$ON · 09-06-2014, 06:59 AM

way, way to small a data set to come to any conclusion

SmutHammer · 09-06-2014, 07:23 AM

Depends on many things, If that traffic is from a review site then the ratio isn't all that good. I've had sites converting at 1 out of 30 in the recent past and they never had any refunds. (was google traffic, and only $10. to join site).

candyflip · 09-06-2014, 07:41 AM

It's been a few months. How'd that work out for you?

fuzebox · 09-06-2014, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

Just sounds like a guy who is fairly good at targeting his traffic. This is how real webmasters used to be.

fuzebox · 09-06-2014, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mamaliga

sorry but in 2014 i call bullshit what you said.

If by "in 2014" you mean a bunch of part-timers throwing up shitty hosted gallery links on their blogs, then maybe...

6-7 figure affiliates know how to pre-sell.

javbucks · 09-06-2014, 09:03 PM

2 sales is nothing to talk about ...
as said - check members activity and wait for rebills or refunds

thegreatestporn · 09-06-2014, 11:26 PM

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Feng-PD · 09-07-2014, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip

It's been a few months. How'd that work out for you?

I think the guy is banned

05-03-2014, 12:45 AM	#1
Rikki-Nyx So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 163	2 join out of 220 visits? so an affil sent in 2 joins yesterday from only 220 Referrals... is that even doable these days? is there any way to check if they're doing something they shouldn't be

05-03-2014, 09:44 AM	#10
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05-03-2014, 09:48 AM	#11
ErectMedia Confirmed Chicago Pimp Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 7,100	As frequent as the old days=no, still possible for those that target quality/niche visitors over quantity. I'll take 10k targeted/niche visitors over 100k bulk anyday. __________________ Domain Name Registration Web3 Domains Last edited by ErectMedia; 05-03-2014 at 09:51 AM..

05-03-2014, 12:24 PM	#14
deltav Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,243	Not bad at all. Now the question is, can he keep anything remotely close to that up over a statistically worthwhile sample size, or was it just luck? I mean, I can find many instances of 2 sales 50 uniques apart - doesn't mean that's anywhere near my normal conversion rate. Just an outlier. __________________ ********* DeltaofVenus.com - Vintage Erotica from the 1800s through 1979

05-03-2014, 12:35 PM	#15
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	It's possible. Here are a few possibilities. 1. Statistical anomaly. See if that ratio holds over time. 2. The affiliate is doing heavy filtering, possibly even hosting their own pre-join page, etc maybe? You should already know what to look for as far as fraud. If not ask your processor and a pay site owner here to help explain it. Basically just look for things which don't pass the smell test. __________________ You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

05-03-2014, 12:56 AM	#2
SmutGiant Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,894	Check member activity. Red flag if no activity after signup.

05-03-2014, 01:00 AM	#3
bean-aid So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: the land of woke sleuths Posts: 16,493	Just email aff and say thank you. Then hope this thread gets burried. Not only is it possible but it is very, very easy. You own a program?

05-03-2014, 01:03 AM	#4
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	Either a total newb or spam. Totally possible. Don't stress.

05-03-2014, 01:05 AM	#5
klinton So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: online Posts: 8,766	totally possible........you should be happy for having him, unless he is a cheater of course

05-03-2014, 01:09 AM	#6
Seth Manson Please dont fuck animals Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 3,988	Just sounds like a guy who is fairly good at targeting his traffic. This is how real webmasters used to be.

05-03-2014, 09:32 AM	#7
rockeru Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2013 Location: Out in space Posts: 293	Yes very possible I have sponsors converting like that.

05-03-2014, 09:34 AM	#8
lucas131 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,475	go and ban him, then refund the members, and then go to doctor ask if everything is ok with you ...

05-03-2014, 09:39 AM	#9
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05-03-2014, 09:55 AM	#12
pornmasta Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 19,090	find where the traffic comes from. ban him do like him profit

05-03-2014, 12:45 PM	#16
InfoGuy 80/20 Rule Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,051	Targeted traffic can certainly still convert at more than 1:100, but since OP didn't say it was a new affiliate account, I'm going to agree with deltav that this was just an outlier in the bell curve. If it's a new affiliate, then it's more likely a cheater and less likely someone who knows what they're doing. __________________ Support American Heroes \| How Bad is My Batch? \| Vaccine Deaths & Adverse Reactions \| Free Speech Coalition \| <WARNING> ePayService / Guerra Capital, INC / MTACC payments \| Flirt4Free Fucks their Affiliates \| Don't do business with piece of shit Andy Alvarez from Webmaster Central / VR3000, who said: "If it was up to me, they would have shot all 30,000 of those country loving shitheads"

05-03-2014, 01:34 PM	#18
deltav Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,243	Thing is, with 2 data points like this you can find all sorts of crazy numbers because all you're looking for is simple point-to-point. Once to start plotting even say as few as 5-10 points (sales) you'll get a much clearer picture. And then with 100+ you'll have a pretty good statistical model that should only majorly fluctuate from changes to the traffic sources or converting site. __________________ ********* DeltaofVenus.com - Vintage Erotica from the 1800s through 1979

05-03-2014, 03:41 PM	#19
eroticfem Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Europe Posts: 362	Best i ever had was 1:1 on DDGCash. __________________

05-03-2014, 04:53 PM	#21
Just Alex Liv Benson to You, Bitch Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Maryland and WV Posts: 6,060	Run IP address in google and see if its aproxy __________________

05-03-2014, 08:51 PM	#25
Chris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris Posts: 27,880	i do less than 1:100 on two programs http://manicamoney.com always below 1:25 http://reallyusefulcash.com about 1:75 disclaimer : i rank in the top 10 with keywords related to the domain that send insanely highly qualified traffic __________________ [email protected] Last edited by Chris; 05-03-2014 at 08:52 PM..

09-05-2014, 05:27 PM	#27
WebmastersLegion Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 146	well 100% targeted traffic to reallyuserfulcash and im getting Total 12,455 0 0 0 0:12455 0 0 0 0 $0.00 $0.00 this month

09-06-2014, 02:39 AM	#29
lock Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 5,065	If your paying per sign up it maybe a problem. Some members also will sign up and pay more than once too. 2 in 200 Is great conversion if actual but only time will tell. __________________ Traffic.Tools - 40+ Free Tools Free.Marketing - 150+ Free Tools Submission.Tools - 20+ Free Tools

09-06-2014, 04:49 AM	#30
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09-06-2014, 06:44 AM	#34
WebmastersLegion Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 146	you guys recommend me Revshare or pps? switching my traffic to other sites!

09-06-2014, 06:59 AM	#35
JA$ON Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: I'm from Downtown....Im from Mitch & Murry Posts: 1,329	way, way to small a data set to come to any conclusion

09-06-2014, 07:23 AM	#36
SmutHammer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,134	Depends on many things, If that traffic is from a review site then the ratio isn't all that good. I've had sites converting at 1 out of 30 in the recent past and they never had any refunds. (was google traffic, and only $10. to join site).

09-06-2014, 07:41 AM	#37
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,058	It's been a few months. How'd that work out for you? __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

09-06-2014, 09:03 PM	#40
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09-06-2014, 11:26 PM	#41
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