I'm down.

Although divvy would need someone to buy his flight. And work out with the police if he can leave the country.

:thumbsup

There's this guy I've known since grade school - was always tall and extremely skinny - anyway, I've always been "bigger" and people used to pick on him like crazy, so I stood up for him often. Anyway, ran into him a few years after high school - guess he got into Muay Thai after he graduated - he showed me a couple videos on his phone of him sparring with guys at his gym that were twice his size(but were new, or had less experience than him) - these dudes were getting destroyed by his clinches. Made me pretty happy to see he went from getting bullied to being a badass.

I've only ever dabbled with Muay Thai somewhat casually. The gym I mentioned above, I helped teach Krav there and would spar with their MMA guys every night after all the "customers" left. I've got a mean leg kick but that's about it. :1orglaugh

I am getting ready for this

As the "prize"? Sweet. :thumbsup

:1orglaugh

Cant get a legit Brown Belt without paying a low level, no name Black Belt for it.


Here is a little onsite on how you get a Black belt: I was a blue for 5 years. I did win a Pan Am title at blue. (Was held back for competition sakes).


As far as submitting the teacher for a belt, thats not true. If that were the case, there would be almost no American Black Belts.

To get the next belt its a lot of time and or beating top competition at your belt in a major tournament. Example: BJ Penn won the worlds at Brn Belt and came to compete at Brn Belt again the following year; was told he can only compete at Black, because he beat the very best in the world already at Brn.

BJ that year won the Black belt devision.


Anyone who says they got a Black Belt in less than 10 years is being less than truthful. The rare exception is when a person wins Pan American or Worlds at purple, Brn and is forced to get their black. Thats what BJ did.


Now as far as being 60+ and being a legit Black belt, that is way possible. Also keep in mind if you are a legit Black belt, nobody except other blacks tap you. Exception; World class Brn belts winning at the higher levels of competition will tap a non-competitive black.

My buddy Todd Nathanson is 62 and has been a Black belt for 10 years. I was the "Man" to beat when we were younger. (I trained longer than he did, and was 210). But now, he is 160 and can crush me. Why? Because he has a school and still trains 7 days a week. I can't beat him and he is kind on how he beats me.

He also has 2 sons that are bad ass Black belts. That can also beat me. Why? Be cause the train and teach 7 days a week.


So to get your black in BJJ, you have to put your time in and when you do get it, it will be legit, because if your getting tapped out by lessor belts, its an embarrassment to the instructor that gave it to you.

My long time buddy and training partner Todd:

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His sons Ben and Jarod:

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Some of the very best training in Chatsworth and the valley:
http://www.academyofbrazilianjiujitsu.com/home


And I still go to Beverly Hills to train with my instructor Rigan Machado regularly.

Ohhh and if I had to submit Rigan Machado to get my Black belt, I would still be waring a Brn for the last 12 years. lol

No disrespect to your buddy or you and by no means am I a tuff guy or bad ass, but Brn in 5? If thats true, I got Purples that will catch him and make him look like a Blue.


Just Dave

The way I read it, he was saying his buddy was at brown FOR 5 years, not AFTER 5 years .. meaning, he could have 9 years in, five of which have been at brown. :2 cents:

Shit! Then my bad. Thats a more reasonable and legitimate time to get brown.


I guess i was more hung up on the beating the Instructor thing. Thats for sure not true. I never beat mine. None of his BlackBelt students have.


All good.


Just Dave

As would you Dame.

Me too:winkwink:

Best I can do against my instructor is a draw, and usually not even that.

If i was able to beat the guy i trained with in Muay Thai, i'd immediately start posing and taking pictures,... then have my gloves bronzed and then give up training right away to make sure i go out on a high note.

My experience in martial arts is that those above you should always be better than you if they are actively training. Achieving the same belt is not the same as achieving the same skill level and experience.

Good times. Dave ran a pressure cooker on me that night. Made me defend everything, kept me moving. I reached lactic acid threshold twice, threw up twice. Nothing sucked more than hearing Dave giggle at me while I threw up. Everywhere I went, Dave was waiting with a submission, or just crush me on my back. Anyone who's never trained or sparred against a BJJ Blackbelt has zero idea what I'm talking about. It's the most humbling experience ever. I've also trained with Todd Nathanson at their Gym, the man is walking encyclopedia of Jiu Jitsu. His boys are top notch coaches and competitors. If you are in the Chatsworth area, worth a visit. Let's just say we had a 10th P Blackbelt come in once and had trouble tapping one of our purples.

One on one, BJJ is the king of fighting arts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrGjeyxYJjA

After 7 years as a bluebelt, I'm now a purple. Blackbelt seems reachable now.

lol at

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Have you reached that level of training that you aren't comparing yourself to your training partners, and comparing if you were better than yourself the day/week/month/year before?

I love Muay Thai. I've been Nak Muay longer than training BJJ, my shins are dented, my hands tore up, and I wouldn't give it up for the world.

Tim, I'm glad to see you started training BJJ! Remember our talk in Costa Rica all those years ago, I knew one day you'd catch the bug.

Old school Muay Thai fighting wraps on Mickey. Fucking awesome, eh? Going to get it tattooed on my right rib cage one day.

I try to train with people better than myself always. I'm not really worried about being better than others, I do it to make sure that every time I train, I'm being pushed beyond my limits.

Have you been consistently training all these years? Seems like you started BJJ quite a few years ago now

Good for you man. Only to get better is train with people better than you.

I started Muay Thai back in my early 20's, kept with it on and off. I've stopped due to injuries a lot. Same with BJJ. I was about to quit everything as I wasn't seeing improvement anymore as I got older, started upping my mileage cycling. But it always comes back full circle, the need to get back on the mats to train. My split nowadays is 3 to 4 days BJJ, 2 days Thai. And I don't push as hard as I used too with it, MT is just too rough on the body. Sitting also has been wrecking havoc on my hips, got a standing desk to offset it. Good luck in your training.

Funny you mentioned hips, I've been fighting that same thing from sitting. Finally went to a sports medicine guy, got X-rays been seeing a chiropractor and pt guy to loosen everything up again. I had muscle spasm in my hip (iliacus) and it was bad enough that it was pulling one leg up a 1/2". Also it snaps when moving over the hip bone - kinda popping like a knuckle crackingm or something. All basically from sitting a few years and letting it all get tighter and tighter. I am going to try like hell to never stop stretching ever again.

Careful tattoos hurt. especially on the ribs.


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I have gotten close, but my professor was letting me. Soon as I started to really tighten my choke, he got out and made me pay for it. :1orglaugh

Yeah man , I did! Congrats on the Purple :thumbsup:thumbsup

That was fun. Me telling you I'm a Black Belt is different than me showing you. lol


Training with lower belts for me is a different game plan. Coming after you with attacks and submissions isn't really cool. Especially because I'm Black and you were blue at the time. A very good Blue belt I might add.:thumbsup


What I do is let you do anything and everything you like, let you move, escape, throw fake attacks with no finishes and make it where nothing you do works. Then after a few minutes you start to feel that nothing works and you will start questioning if you actually know anything. (no disrespect)


Sounds mean, but what I'm actually doing is figuring out what you know and don't know, so when it comes time to teach and help you, I know what it is we can work on. Gageing you level. Tapping you over and over does nothing for both of us. Drooped my ego and Got tapping people out of my system when I was a purple belt. lol


Anthony is good and way knows his shit when it comes to BJJ. Knows its history, origins, who is who and knows all of the moves.


For me, it was everyday 2 times a day, payed my bills, competed for 15 years. Now its been 24 years in; Its more fun and games for me now, than being the very best at it.


Just Dave

bump ... just for the jits peeps:pimp

Tournament style only. No weight class. Like the good ol days of MMA before they all became money hungry queers.

You mean "the good old days when the UFC promptly went bankrupt because no one wanted to watch an Olympic wrestler and Olympic sambo medalists lay on the ground, barely moving for 30 minutes, wrapped around each other like gay snakes with no idea how to strike or submit each other"? People want action. There's a reason Dana White and his partner got such a good deal on the UFC (2,000,000.00 I think??)

and what did he do to solve this issue ?

I am not looking this up as i type to sound smart so i am probably not 100% accurate. but initially when the L.A. Gracie guy started it, the idea was "style vs style" and every martial artists dream to finally see every style against another. What happened was that apart from the few really cool and often brutal fights, Hoyce and others like Taktarov, Severinson and other grapplers made it really boring. Strikers didn't know how to grapple. Grapplers didn't know how to strike. There were no rules basically, no rounds, no weight classes, no mouth guards, no gloves and so on. When White and his partners bought it, they implemented a bunch of rules to insure the sport wouldn't get shut down right away as it seemed it would (safety related stuff - gloves, mouth guards, can't hit back of head, can't gouge eyes, destroy someones groin etc etc), they implemented rounds to stop the 25 minute rolling around on the ground stalemates, they created fight pay structures to reward exciting fights/fighters, knockouts and so on.

I don't remember specifics really. I just remember being super excited about it as i was completely obsessed with Karate at the time and owned a school and also thought it was awesome to finally put style vs style to finally shut everyone up about how awesome one style is against another. It was the first real, legit "lets see who is talking shit and who has a practical fighting style" type competition so it was a big deal to anyone who practiced any sort of martial art. I remember after the first 5-6 or so we lost interest and it was more or less just kinda boring to watch. Tons of crazy hype and goofy theatrics, then they usually turned out to be largely unskilled fighters doing little to nothing in the cage.. and grapplers taking it to the ground for long periods of time which was boring.

.... Anyway, I need my sleep. I'm up to what is usually 60 rounds a day/5 days a week between Muay Thai and boxing + doing cardio and i am sure Vendzilla is doing 2X more judging by his incredible confidence... and I only have a few more months before Vegas, so my work is cut out for me.

so we arranged the ring, cage etc and working on permits and insurance.

Time to see who is really up for it!

AWESOME!

Who is in?

Ill gladly sign up as a contestant and help out with the fight!


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Mefo vs. Roald!

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excuse me but is he...muslin ?

Maybe or an mercenary soldier

You get table I'll get the drinks...

This could get ugly!

Where do I sign up?!

Email me your info

[email protected]

Looks like TheHand is in

Maybe - my knee is fucked at the moment, but I could be up for it by January. I'll start training though in case you guys somehow secure insurance lol :Oh crap:pimp

How would this go? I'm guessing sigle bouts (not tournament) stuff> Grappler vs. grappler - full mma vs full mma etc. ?

Amazon:
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so this is the only thread where all the old bitches fucking again? :1orglaugh

My vote is for single bouts. Cash prize for each winner. I like full mma vs full mma

But could do Grappler vs. grappler. Im a wrestler at heart.

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for the music:

I am not sure you can offer cash...? That would likely fall under a whole other body of rules as a professional fight?

Put me down for $100 on Mefo....

Roald may be crafty, but Mefo has like a 30 inch reach advantage. :winkwink:

That would be great!

I dont know. Roald is the older brother. My younger brothers are talker than me and bigger, but I still can kick their asses.