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aka123 07-29-2014 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20175167)
I have never heard anyone make the argument that eating like a human being is "bad for your teeth". Anyone that's serious about health and fitness and weight loss, eats like this. Proper food, divided among say 4 meals with 2 snacks, enables your body to maintain stable blood sugar levels for stable energy through the day and it helps your body, with exercise and proper diet to sustain a higher metabolic rate, allowing you to eat eat more food (for growth and repair/recovery) and subsequently burn more calories in a day, experience less fatigue etc etc etc.

Now you heard, maybe that's the European knowledge part you haven't heard about? The stuff in your spit doesn't have enough time to combat all kinds of shit in your mouth if you eat and drink all the time (besides water).

And I seriously don't care that "Anyone that's serious about health and fitness and weight loss, eats like this." Many American thing is something we take example from, me including, but American way of eating is just joke outside America. You are famous for eating shitty and pseudo diets and feeding habits fall into this category.

Varius 07-29-2014 03:40 PM

I tried a 10-day water fast (only water, nothing else) in January and it worked great.

I was drinking 8L - 10L water a day.

Day 1, mental hunger but nothing drastic.
Day 2, start getting foggy as you switch into Ketosis
Day 3, feel like you have a major hangover, from water
Day 4, start feeling more energetic and way less hungry
Day 5-10, feel awesome, no ill effects and very much more aware and alert

If not for social commitments (I had to go to Vegas for a bachelor party that weekend) I would have liked to continue it longer.

Everyone is different, but here are my conclusions:

- It was not dangerous in the least to do it for this short period of time. I guess it could be if you have existing medical conditions?
- I did not ease in, or ease out of the fasting period (in fact, I probably went and drank/ate a ton that weekend in Vegas, immediately following). I felt no problems from this.
- I saw no signs my metabolism was any slower upon breaking the fast.
- I did drop about ~22 lbs those 10 days, mostly all water weight and fat (thanks to being in ketosis) and despite going back to bad habits afterwards on purpose to see how the 'rebound' was, only about 50% of the weight came back within the next few months (including that most of that returned weight was likely water weight, due to ingesting carbs again).
- Months later, I still get full quicker than before (stomach likely shrank a bit during that period closer to its normal, fist-sized state).

I would like to do a 30-day one, as I'd like to prove the theory/idea that after 23 days, your hypothalamus should re-set itself and you will find unnatural foods to be disgusting and crave nutrient-rich foods.

However, it's pretty damn hard to do 30 days of only water if you live in a sociable city, go out, etc...(here in NYC, food + drink are a big part of going out).

You would basically, have to become a hermit for those 30 days to pull the experiment off.

Additionally, you should mostly forego exercise so you don't end up burning muscle mass off.

I think the main thing between the results of water-only, or other 'cleanse/fasts' is they contain sugar (juice fasts, the maple syrup or honey/cayenne/water/lemon ones, etc...) and thus you do not achieve ketosis, you simply achieve under-eating.

john1975 07-29-2014 03:47 PM

In 5 to 15 years from now....everybody will be skinny. As they slowly perfect the science of making delicious foods lower and lower in calories. Plus newer and better weight loss supplements will be discovered.

Just in the last couple years Raspberry Ketones and Green Coffee Extract were discovered and studies showed both really do work.

In 10 years, we might be able to eat a whole delicious pizza pie for just 50 calories.

wehateporn 07-29-2014 04:28 PM

Amazing how many others have been doing this :thumbsup

First day got to 9 hours then gave in, I'm fasting 1 in 2 days from here, bit of an experiment.

dehash 07-29-2014 04:59 PM

I did it. First time I tried for 7 days. Only water and hot water. Had little headache because of detoxication couple days. On day 4 think had feeling that I am like a feather, all feelings got a little bit sharper. It was good experience. You have to get back to normal diet slowly, can't just jump back on regular food next day.
Also did few times 1 and 2 days.

The Porn Nerd 07-29-2014 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20175129)
Its difficult to think that you honestly believe you had 35 pounds of fecal matter in your system. Some jack off psuedo-science immersed idiot/fake doctor fed you a bunch of bullshit and you fell for it. You clearly have zero clue what 35 pounds is... nor does the chiropractor.

Furthermore, you can't have that large of a mass in your digestive tract and not know it. You would have a multitude of crippling symptoms.

This is 1lb of fat.

You are saying you had approximately 35 of these in your digestive tract and had no symptoms.

http://images.obesityhelp.com/upload...thCATUVBVX.jpg

This is 5 lbs of fat. You are basically saying you had approximately 7 of these in your digestive tract with no negative symptoms (btw... lower back pain does not count, as lower back pain typically = large gut).

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/feat...og/fatblob.jpg

Lastly, there is not a winning answer if you do not define "fasting". Ramadan just ended and 1+ billion Muslims were "fasting" for the last 30 days from dawn until dusk. Thats hardly the same thing as just not eating for a week or two. or thinking some idiotic "juice cleanse" is actually going to do anything positive for you besides the placebo effect.

You seriously need to get a life.
Fat is not the same as compacted fecal matter due to years of a poor diet.
Then again, I would think you would know all about fecal matter as this is what you sling here on a regular basis.

Now please go waste your time with someone else, there are plenty here who need your insights and obvious intelligence.

TheSquealer 07-29-2014 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20175245)
You seriously need to get a life.
Fat is not the same as compacted fecal matter due to years of a poor diet.
Then again, I would think you would know all about fecal matter as this is what you sling here on a regular basis.

Now please go waste your time with someone else, there are plenty here who need your insights and obvious intelligence.

The obvious point which clealry escaped you is the mass. To further enlighten you, muscle is only 20% more dense than fat. So do the math, ...unless your poop is more dense than hardened steel, you're 100% full of shit. And you are clueless to think you had 35 pounds of anything in your colon.... and didn't even know about it.

The Porn Nerd 07-29-2014 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20175264)
The obvious point which clealry escaped you is the mass. To further enlighten you, muscle is only 20% more dense than fat. So do the math, ...unless your poop is more dense than hardened steel, you're 100% full of shit. And you are clueless to think you had 35 pounds of anything in your colon.... and didn't even know about it.

OK buh-bye now.

bronco67 07-29-2014 07:19 PM

Uh...people, you don't need to starve yourself for a week. Fasting doesn't mean starving.

I don't think too many good things could come from depriving your body of nutrition for days.

John-ACWM 07-30-2014 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by atom (Post 20174659)

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

wehateporn 07-31-2014 06:09 AM

Back on the fisting...errr...fasting today

Choopa Phil 07-31-2014 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20175303)
Uh...people, you don't need to starve yourself for a week. Fasting doesn't mean starving.

I don't think too many good things could come from depriving your body of nutrition for days.

The lack of health and nutritional knowledge on this forum and in every day life is astounding. 10 days without food and only water would have us emaciated and half dead :1orglaugh

Hentaikid 07-31-2014 08:09 AM

Fasted yesterday, gonna have a pizza with friends later on so this'll be a short one. Did 4 days in a row my first time. Very sleepy in the afternoons.

I suspect the "fasting during the day" only that say the muslims do is harder to maintain, as if you eat nothing at all your body gets used to the idea but eating a lot at night must be making you extra hungry during the day.

money biz 07-31-2014 08:27 AM

most people dont have the balls to fast because you have to do with your emotional baggage.

wehateporn 08-04-2014 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by money biz (Post 20177105)
most people dont have the balls to fast because you have to do with your emotional baggage.

Probably true, day 4 for me

wehateporn 08-06-2014 08:12 AM

Day 5

8char

Choopa_Pardo 08-06-2014 09:28 AM

Eat proper meals, no junk food, get some exercise in.

Fasting is the worst. I wrestled and cut a lot of weight in season for years and will never do that shit again.

wehateporn 08-10-2014 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa_Pardo (Post 20183800)
Fasting is the worst. I wrestled and cut a lot of weight in season for years and will never do that shit again.

Cutting weight is fine for me as I'm not a fighter, even when I'm slim and fit I still weigh over 220 pounds

wehateporn 08-10-2014 06:22 PM

Weight is coming down quick, seems to work

SilentKnight 08-10-2014 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20174630)
I read fisting, never mind.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Same here.

Some sort of Pavlovian thing maybe?

money biz 08-10-2014 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20183694)
Day 5

8char


hey if you really going to the distance i suggest you get some digestive enzimes it will really break down the bs in your intestinal track. Next morning you will take a huge shit and wonder where the fuck it came from.

TidalWave 08-10-2014 09:04 PM

Sometimes I don't eat for a couple days straight, then I take a break from the cocaine and eat a bit for 1 day and then go back to my fast.

dillonaire 08-10-2014 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TidalWave (Post 20188476)
Sometimes I don't eat for a couple days straight, then I take a break from the cocaine and eat a bit for 1 day and then go back to my fast.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

wehateporn 08-13-2014 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by money biz (Post 20188452)
hey if you really going to the distance i suggest you get some digestive enzimes it will really break down the bs in your intestinal track. Next morning you will take a huge shit and wonder where the fuck it came from.

Interesting! :thumbsup

wehateporn 08-13-2014 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TidalWave (Post 20188476)
Sometimes I don't eat for a couple days straight, then I take a break from the cocaine and eat a bit for 1 day and then go back to my fast.

Does it keep you slim?

wehateporn 08-13-2014 04:40 PM

Just got through day 11, this time it was hard work :2 cents:

ErectMedia 08-13-2014 05:55 PM

I'm too skinny, 1-2 days of fasting and I'd turn into a puddle. :2 cents:

Si 08-13-2014 08:20 PM

I have been fasting every day for about 6 months now.

Pounds lost: 65

Problem is, I'm 6 3 and am now 165 lbs and still have belly fat (small amount).

More work to be done.

scubadiver626 08-13-2014 09:10 PM

Aim for something sustainable, or you will gain it all back. Think long term.

CampHost 08-13-2014 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20174628)
Pros/cons? Your experience?

There are no Pros to fasting (or fisting), that's why no other animal on the planet chooses to do such a thing. Put a lion in a cage for a week with nothing but water and let him out. Shit...

There ARE pros to gorging yourself.

1) You will shit out everything and feel light.
2) You will enjoy the process of gorging yourself.
3) You will sleep like a baby after gorging yourself.

Thx!

iSpyCams 08-14-2014 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CampHost (Post 20191799)
There are no Pros to fasting (or fisting), that's why no other animal on the planet chooses to do such a thing. Put a lion in a cage for a week with nothing but water and let him out. Shit...

There ARE pros to gorging yourself.

1) You will shit out everything and feel light.
2) You will enjoy the process of gorging yourself.
3) You will sleep like a baby after gorging yourself.

Thx!

As a matter of fact many animals fast routinely when they are sick.

Choopa Phil 08-14-2014 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Si (Post 20191746)
I have been fasting every day for about 6 months now.

Pounds lost: 65

Problem is, I'm 6 3 and am now 165 lbs and still have belly fat (small amount).

More work to be done.

You need to put on some muscle at 165 and 6'3 id say youre pretty skinny fat. Skinny fat is exactly that...youre skinny and are fat but lack muscle mass. Start eating some more and doing some resistance training your bellyfat will go away quicker than you think.

wehateporn 08-14-2014 06:42 AM

Fasting worked for this chap


Si 08-14-2014 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20192144)
You need to put on some muscle at 165 and 6'3 id say youre pretty skinny fat. Skinny fat is exactly that...youre skinny and are fat but lack muscle mass. Start eating some more and doing some resistance training your bellyfat will go away quicker than you think.

Yep, that is my next stage. I wanted to get back to a more normal weight first. I've only got 15lbs (roughly) according to BMI before I become "underweight", after going from Overweight 6 months ago.

So, yes it is time to start building again I think.

PR_Glen 08-14-2014 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20192144)
You need to put on some muscle at 165 and 6'3 id say youre pretty skinny fat. Skinny fat is exactly that...youre skinny and are fat but lack muscle mass. Start eating some more and doing some resistance training your bellyfat will go away quicker than you think.

you'd never catch me eating oats for breakfast but pay attention to this guy ^^, he knows his shit ;)

Choopa Phil 08-14-2014 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20192302)
you'd never catch me eating oats for breakfast but pay attention to this guy ^^, he knows his shit ;)

Thank you sir! I appreciate that :thumbsup

AshleyC 08-14-2014 12:37 PM

Look at If It Fits Your Macros, flexible dieting... get the my fitness pal app and it does the next part for you. Or use a simple calculation of you Gender, Age, Weight and Height find out what you need to keep the same weight. 20% deficit to lose weight, 20% surplus for making gains. Fasting is for people who know what they are doing!

Don't listen to the bro science and learn about the food you eat and your bodies reaction to it before jumping from extreme diets to the next extreme diet :2 cents:

wehateporn 08-21-2014 05:03 AM

Even after just 3 weeks it's had a huge impact on decreasing my upper body fat

aka123 08-21-2014 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20199491)
Even after just 3 weeks it's had a huge impact on decreasing my upper body fat

Yes, you have found a way to lose weight. The science community will be thrilled. :)

aka123 08-21-2014 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 20192137)
As a matter of fact many animals fast routinely when they are sick.

Lack of buffet might also have something to do with it.


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