It's a natural progression....plus, I have diarrhea of the mouth. :D

One of the best ways to avoid digestive channel problems is:

To eat bread like this.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8GjbBgXuAX...600/785504.jpg

And not like this.

http://www.thirdoptionmen.org/wp-con...whitebread.jpg


It also avoids you having heart and vein problems, since your veins expand heavily when you eat high clycemic index food like white bread, corn flakes and such. And when you do it over and over again, your veins don't really like it. They start to harden, if I remember correctly.

And just stick with my current 40/40/20 carb/protein/fat breakdown? My current diet keeps me around 6-7% im wondering if this would perhaps kickstart some additional fatloss

I don't know. I don't see why not but my experience ends at 7% bf. But I would wager IF would kickstaet that.

According to this research it should and t will certainly increase you HGH and more.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-04/imc-sfr033111.php


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC329619/

http://mljohnson.pharm.virginia.edu/pdfs/167.pdf

very true. All workout / pre-workout drinks don't work anymore after a period of time....our bodies get used to them. Pseudoephedrine works great...but you gotta ask for it at the pharmacy. Your wired all day and don't feel like eating...and just feel like working out or concentrating on stuff. It's not something I recommend daily as it speeds ur heart up. But I just got a ton of website stuff done today.. never fails to motivate.

Another good one...and this ones natural : L-Tyrosine . Natural dopamine pumper. Combined with natural DHA = even better. (non-fish related) These 2 keep you motivated all day. For a lot of people fasting / exercising is too boring and motivation is most lacking.

Stay under 2000 calories a day...and you'll lose a little weight each day. (right down EVERYTHING you eat....even if it's just a small handful of chips...it all adds up) If you don't eat anything at all all day...you basically burn a pound of fat each day. (drink all the water you want though) 0 calories.

Once your really start burning through fat, your skin gets a sticky, very oily sweat and feels pretty gross...but atleast u know ur burning good. As ur body slowly starts consuming itself.

Watch an episode of Naked & Afraid. Just about all participants lose 25 to 30 pounds in 21 days....due to lack of food. Problem is were too spoiled and yummy food is everywhere.

use calorie free or very low calorie endorphin boosters...like hot sauce , herb ox sodium free chicken boullian , low sodium soy sauce. put all 3 in a large cup of hot water.....drink...and you won't feel like eating for hours. total calories = 10.

drink coffee with stevia and low calorie creamers. total calories for a large cup = 100 or less.

other natural and calorie free endorphin boosters : Horse Radish , Mustard , Onion powder , Garlic Powder

major workout motivation : Testosterone Cream. U can order it online...AndroForte is what I use...works amazing. (rage type energy)

best energy drink = Absolutely Zero Monster Energy Drink. (0 calories )

maybe too much testosterone cream and sudafed today, as u can tell from this long post.. in perfect shape though.... 6'2" 195.

EDIT : forgot to mention a low calorie Fiber Supplement = mandatory as well. Since nothings really flowing through your intestines, you need something to absord all the junk / fat...so u can poop it out. Otherwise you feel like crapola all day. Fiber Choice or those new gummy ones are fine.

:1orglaugh Good one

Even tho I am the whitest white person I know, I have not touched 'white bread' in decades. Whole wheat is the lowest I go. LOL I like 12 grain bread.

I basically have a "policy" tho I break it from time to time: no white food. The color white. LOL

In fact, the more greens (live greens, like salads and spinach and broccoli) the better. Green = healthy. :)

Ezekiel is the best! Ill sub my oats in the mornign for some ezekiel, just dont make the mistake of leaving it out of the freezee :1orglaugh

first off it takes at least 72 hours for any of this bullshit 'crisis mode'to even begin so you can throw this argument out the window, nobody is talking about fasting for a week here..

second, counting calories all the time is a set up for failure, nobody wants to do this all the time and nobody will do this over long periods of time. by shortening up your eating windows you end up eating less in the process. which is much easier to maintain long term.

good luck with your microorganisms..

72 hours? From where you get that? And have we established some time frame for the fast? The digestion channel crisis begins when you are out of "poo", well actually it begins before that, but lets not be too literate.

I didn't talk anything about counting calories. I talked about eating less. That is not some brain surgery. Eat half from what you eat normally, if your normal eating is balanced, or eat 2/3 from the normal if you are brain surgeon and can handle all that math.

Whats your theory as to why all major diseases are increasing at the rate they are?

What major diseases? More like they have lessened, but here is short guessed list:

Fat ass = eating too much
Joint, back, etc. problems = eating too much + lack of exercise
Allergies = lack of exposure to real threats (living in too sterile environment)
Birth defects = increased environment toxication
Resistant bacterias = improper/ too excessive use of antibiotics

Huge part of toxins in environment are fat-soluble and are stored in human's fat tissue.

What the fuck are you talking about? You cannot be serious. Cancer rates have went from less than 1 in 10 people fifty years ago to almost 1 in 2, diabetes is now considered an epidemic with over 350 million people worldwide having it and HALF of the US population is predicted to have it within 10 years. MS is on the rise, along with autism. Do you live in a fucking cave?

Okay, I have answers for those.

Cancer = bad eating and drinking habits + very important factor: people live older (older people are more prone for cancer)

Diabetes = bad eating and drinking habits (usually outside sign is fat ass)

I don't exactly know about autism and MS, but I know that diagnostic has developed to more sensitive direction (more people are classified to have those diseases) and actual numbers might have risen because of environment toxication, or maybe more mothers drink (alcohol) and smoke when pregnant.

Juice cleanse is the closest I get to fasting or not eating for a long period of time. first 3 days suck, but after that it isnt so bad.

I don't have a theory on that.

Could be a number of things, the air, brain signals, I haven't thought about it. I'm always open to science though.

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re: fasting, a bit of a factoid a few here prolly know but maybe some do not.

the word *breakfast* has its etymology in the phrase *breaking fast*, i.e., ending the night's fast.

humans have been intermittent fasting for eons now, it's just the timelength of the fast needs to be longer. 12 hours from the last meal to breakfast is the bare minimum. 14 hours and you'll be making a difference. 16-18 hours is real deal maximum benefit.

another great thing about it is you get to gorge. instead of breaking up your cals into 5-6 small meals (another myth btw, to sell more food, there is no benefit whatsoever in this protocol, no, it's doesn't change metabolic rate), anyhoo, instead of a 350 calorie meal and finishing feeling hungry. you get to eat a more reasonable 500-750 or so cals per meal, you leave the table feeling full, satisfied and satiated.

and I'm with bronco, being able to control my mind re: hunger pangs is a powerful feeling.


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again, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Don't insult the type 1 diabetics reading this.

Is that really suggested in there? In here no one starting from dentists will suggest eating 5-6 times per day, contradictory.

Its difficult to think that you honestly believe you had 35 pounds of fecal matter in your system. Some jack off psuedo-science immersed idiot/fake doctor fed you a bunch of bullshit and you fell for it. You clearly have zero clue what 35 pounds is... nor does the chiropractor.

Furthermore, you can't have that large of a mass in your digestive tract and not know it. You would have a multitude of crippling symptoms.

This is 1lb of fat.

You are saying you had approximately 35 of these in your digestive tract and had no symptoms.

http://images.obesityhelp.com/upload...thCATUVBVX.jpg

This is 5 lbs of fat. You are basically saying you had approximately 7 of these in your digestive tract with no negative symptoms (btw... lower back pain does not count, as lower back pain typically = large gut).

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/feat...og/fatblob.jpg

Lastly, there is not a winning answer if you do not define "fasting". Ramadan just ended and 1+ billion Muslims were "fasting" for the last 30 days from dawn until dusk. Thats hardly the same thing as just not eating for a week or two. or thinking some idiotic "juice cleanse" is actually going to do anything positive for you besides the placebo effect.

I have exactly the idea what I am talking about. You don't need to have fat ass to have bad eating and drinking habits if you refer to that. The dieabetes numbers have risen because of bad eating and drinking habits. You are just so ignorant and try to blame someone else or seek some miracle cure, may it be fast or some pill. Start living better.

yes, we've been sold that 5-6 smaller meals helps hunger and more importantly, alters (speeds up) metabolism.

People simply twist it and misstate it. Many smaller meals helps support a faster metabolism. It does not, in itself cause an net increase in overall metabolic rates. Generally speaking, your metabolism speeds up and slows down in proportion to the amount of food you consume, when you consume it. It does nothing to control hunger being that if you are eating clean, well balanced and calorie controlled meals, you should be hungry every few hours, timed to your meals.

Many smaller meals of the right food, also helps a great deal to regulate and stabilize blood sugar and energy levels.

type 1 diabetes is fundamentally different from type 2, I wouldn't even know where to start re: sorting out your misunderstandings.

Ive had type 1 diabetes for 30 something years (long before I ever drank a beer and I've been scrawny all my life, I don't have an issue losing wiehgt I have an issue gaining weight.

and I have more understanding of diabetes than I do most any other thing I am interested in.

You might want to first realize the difference between type and type 2 diabetes, they should not even be named the same disease. type 1 is an immune system disease, my immune system attacked itself and died. absolutely and completely different from you judgemental view that only lazy people who eat and drink get diabetes.

Learn.

Me too... :upsidedow

European alternative is to eat low clycemic index food, which is anyways the better alternative, starting from diabetes.

To be fair, most people have type 2 and insist they have a disease as if they have no ability to not shove ice cream, cookies and 2 liter bottles of coke down their throats ;)

I have relatives in this category and they get no pity from me. And when they start the "woe is me" crap around me, they get an ear full about being irresponsible and lazy.

There is nothing "European" about it. Its how any health conscious person and athlete or fitness professional anywhere in the world eats and its not a secret or something new.

I wouldn't disagree with this. My comment was more along the lines of being sold the protocol as a weight-loss tool. Eating 5-6 meals is actually counter to losing weight. Another issue along those lines, it causes the body to constantly release insulin, hard to lose weight in that state. But for a diabetic? I can tell you with first hand experience maintaining proper glucose levels while eating more frequently is a massive challenge.

But there is also quite a bit of info that points towards 1 meal a day also being just fine. I haven't read up on it in a while, perhaps it's been countered and proven false.

Serious question, how old are you?

Still, the answer doesn't change, but I would like to add the previously mentioned (by me) living in too sterile environment.

And some people have genetical tendency to get diabetes, but we are not talking about that. Lets agree that you have a genetical tendency to get diabetes and your diabetes is not your fault. Okay?

So what's the deal with 5-6 meals? If not nothing else it's bad for your teeth. Why don't you do what any health conscious people would recommend?

I can understand that and perhaps I jumped the gun, I do find it important to try and make sure people know there is no relation whatsoever between type 1 diabetes and type 2 and I am not up to speed on type 2 other than it's not type 1). My diabetic acquaintances are all type 1 and I am the only one of either type in my fam!

Yeah, i understand. I hated it in my gym, when people say this and I get tired of explaining it over and over again.

I don't know about the 1 meal thing. I would say it depends entirely on what exactly that meal consists of. 1 meal of high fructose corn syrup would likely kill you. So its not as simple as "1 meal is ok". 1 meal of low/no carbs and being in a constant state of ketosis... sure.

I take it you take insulin, have you ever had a serious hypoglycemic episode? Thats some scary shit there.

Over 30 years old. What that has to do with anything? If you have some argument, say it. I don't ask your wifes, kids or pets names either, since those are irrelevant.

wow...I typed all that up for you guys..and nobody cares. :(

kidding...

forgot to mention sugar free Popsicles (orange flavor = best) curbs the appetite as well.

A smaller eating window also helps with the whole "less eating" thing. Giving yourself a window makes it difficult to get excess calories.

One other benefit -- and I don't if this is true -- but a long fast supposedly spikes your growth hormones by %1000 during a short phase.

Since some posters include sleeping time in their numbers, I also fast for 8, 10 or 12 hours almost daily :)

yes. both hypo and hyper. The absolute worst hypO episode happened while I was in the hospital. the doctor handling my meds was not my regular doctor and presribed his own insulin schedule for me, the amount was ~10x more than I need per shot. I tried to tell the nurse as i was passing out.........................

they have an emergency glucose kit there they gave me to bring me back, that one was very close. they used 3 of those kits on me that day.

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I have never heard anyone make the argument that eating like a human being is "bad for your teeth". Anyone that's serious about health and fitness and weight loss, eats like this. Proper food, divided among say 4 meals with 2 snacks, enables your body to maintain stable blood sugar levels for stable energy through the day and it helps your body, with exercise and proper diet to sustain a higher metabolic rate, allowing you to eat eat more food (for growth and repair/recovery) and subsequently burn more calories in a day, experience less fatigue etc etc etc.

People mistakenly say "eating several small meals speeds up your metabolism" but thats not how it works. Your metabolic rate is always in direct relation to the quantity of food you eat, when you eat it. In other words, not eating breakfast, means having less energy as you start your day.. then eating a large lunch to compensate, means a spike in energy (proportionate to how much you ate), followed by a crash (proportionate to the up-spike in energy)... then you likely need a nap, then you eat dinner, have no energy... and play xbox and fall asleep.

If you exercise, you have to eat right regardless.