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Old 08-01-2014, 07:08 AM   #101
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This video containing rare footage of Gaza-based terror movement Islamic Jihad?s rocket-launching capabilities and military training sessions.
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Why exactly is it a terror movement?

If you have a proper army and can kill people by the thousands does it stop being "terror" ?

Is not the idea of war to frighten the other side to surrender?


The actions of Israel, the west's wars in Iraq etc have driven people into supporting mad fundamentalist groups.

But the problem started in Washington not in the desert somewhere.
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All problems, even 2000 year old problems, start in Washington.
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not many?

you count, if you can.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...m/victims.html

sure you can criticize anyone! Through we are still expecting a constructive criticism
You are quoting that website? Really?

It looks absolutely legit
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You are quoting that website? Really?

It looks absolutely legit
It is!

I live in Israel and every terror act described on this site is visible on media, some of those terror acts I witnessed myself.
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It is!

I live in Israel and every terror act described on this site is visible on media, some of those terror acts I witnessed myself.
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It is!

I live in Israel and every terror act described on this site is visible on media, some of those terror acts I witnessed myself.
Where is the list of the people you have driven from their land and house, bombed and imprisoned?

Why are your lives more important than theirs?

Is it the guilt that you are thieves?

The fascist actions of Israel murdering children shame the victims of World War 2.

Israel has lost.
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Where is the list of the people you have driven from their land and house, bombed and imprisoned?

Why are your lives more important than theirs?

Is it the guilt that you are thieves?

The fascist actions of Israel murdering children shame the victims of World War 2.

Israel has lost.
They were removed from houses and bombed exactly for the reason of doing those terror acts.

I never said our lives important, you are just twisting the words

The "stolen" land and murdered children crap is getting old... Anytime you start a war with Israel you getting your ass kicked and then you start to spread the Nazi propaganda...

We lost?

We hope Hamas will get smarter, after all we want to keep their regime in Gaza, but in case they won't we would have to wipe the Gaza sector completely

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The home of thousands of children. This is the act of a fascist power.

Israel has lost the support of all thinking and caring people.
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Really? ALL thinking and caring people?
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Really? ALL thinking and caring people?
He regards himself to be of the highest esteem!
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I think you should re-read the rules

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It is!

I live in Israel and every terror act described on this site is visible on media, some of those terror acts I witnessed myself.
I'll play along.

If the Palestinian people were to make a site like that it would require many more pages, directories, a search function and more bandwidth cost.
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I'll play along.

If the Palestinian people were to make a site like that it would require many more pages, directories, a search function and more bandwidth cost.
So there is no terror organization as Hamas which made thousands of terror acts over the years in Israel. Israel just bombs the Gaza for fun, and killing palestians children because Jews are just bad like that. Islam is a peaceful religion. Israeli people should just mass suicide and pass their land to Hamas, right?
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So there is no terror organization as Hamas which made thousands of terror acts over the years in Israel. Israel just bombs the Gaza for fun, and killing palestians children because Jews are just bad like that. Islam is a peaceful religion. Israeli people should just mass suicide and pass their land to Hamas, right?
Can you please list or link those '' thousands'' of terror act by Hamas ?
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So Palestinian children and women and men are playing with fire?

How so?

I mean, I know the terrorists Hamas are playing with fire. But how are the people who are dying playing with fire?
let me show you...










Hamas using children as human shields!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu54aSM6QOE


Hamas Spokesperson Encourages Use of Human Shield
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXZEzbT0H1s

Do you still need an explanation of civilian casualties?

Posting graphic images of killed women and children still works for brainless masses, but even Gaza people realized now that Hamas is the address to blame.

Hamas leaders hiding all around the globe, flying around in private planes and enjoying their billions of usd they make from keeping this conflict on.
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Can you please list or link those '' thousands'' of terror act by Hamas ?
Sure.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...m/victims.html
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The whole situation is tragic.

The Holocaust instilled the belief for Jews the world over that they'll never be safe outside of a country of their own ... and rightly so.

Hell, even Joseph Stalin said as much when he spoke of never trusting a stateless people and accordingly cast his affirmative United Nations vote for the creation of a Jewish state.

Moreover were it not for the consequences of several failed Arab invasions, Israel today would be a much smaller country.

Having said all this however, I fully agree that what's happening in Gaza today is nothing less than obscene.

I wish there was a viable solution, but I'll be damned if I know what it is.
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what I was expecting .... mixing stuff up.

Hamas is not responsible for all those attacks .....
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what I was expecting .... mixing stuff up.

Hamas is not responsible for all those attacks .....
which stuff is mixed up here exactly?

since you are mentioned Hamas is not responsible for these attacks (through for most of the attacks Hamas claimed responsibility) then who organized it?

please elaborate.

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The whole situation is tragic.

The Holocaust instilled the belief for Jews the world over that they'll never be safe outside of a country of their own ... and rightly so.

Hell, even Joseph Stalin said as much when he spoke of never trusting a stateless people and accordingly cast his affirmative United Nations vote for the creation of a Jewish state.

Moreover were it not for the consequences of several failed Arab invasions, Israel today would be a much smaller country.

Having said all this however, I fully agree that what's happening in Gaza today is nothing less than obscene.

I wish there was a viable solution, but I'll be damned if I know what it is.



Israel also wishes there would be some kind of solution, we can't find any yet.
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which stuff is mixed up here exactly?

since you are mentioned Hamas is not responsible for these attacks (through for most of the attacks Hamas claimed responsibility) then who organized it?

please elaborate.
example:
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Michael Ben Sa'adon (27) - Eilat
Israel Zamalloa (26) - Eilat
Three people were killed in a suicide bombing at a residential bakery in the southern city of Eilat. The Islamic Jihad and the Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack, along with the unknown ?Army of Believers.?

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The al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades (Arabic: كتائب شهداء الأقصى‎ Katā'ib Shuhadā' al-'Aqṣā) is a coalition of Palestinian armed groups in the West Bank.
not HAMAS !
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example:
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Michael Ben Sa'adon (27) - Eilat
Israel Zamalloa (26) - Eilat
Three people were killed in a suicide bombing at a residential bakery in the southern city of Eilat. The Islamic Jihad and the Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack, along with the unknown ?Army of Believers.?



not HAMAS !


Islamic Jihad has much in common with Hamas, since both fight against the existence of the State of Israel. Both groups were formed as offshoots of the Muslim Brotherhood and receive a large amount of funding from Iran. With similar goals, Hamas and the PIJ have worked together on a number of projects. The PIJ has Sunni members only, promotes Islamism and Sharia law and fights to establish an Islamic state

Hamas controls Gaza sector, so any terror act coming out of there is their responsibility.

It's funny how out of hundreds of cases where Hamas claimed responsibility you pull out one and say Hamas is innocent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...uicide_attacks

What is your point here? What you are trying to say? That Hamas is not a terrorist organization? That they don't blow up buses full of children and women in Israel?

Think twice before you hit the reply button
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It is a situation of colonisation, where Palestinians are resisting the occupation of a coloniser, and therefore any act maintaining the occupation is by definition disproportionate and illegitimate. Yet it is still worth stating the latest statistics ? at the time of writing ? to show where most of the violence is coming from:
?The Israeli army has killed more than 1 283 Palestinians. According to the United Nations, approximately 80% of those killed are civilians.
?A UN agency is housing 167 269 displaced Palestinians.
?Rocket fire from Gaza has killed two Israeli civilians and a Thai migrant worker.
?About 43 Israeli soldiers have been killed in combat, all as a result of the army?s ground invasion.
?More Gazan children were killed in the first week of bombing than the total number of Israelis killed by Hamas rockets in the past 13 years.
?Israel has bombed schools, hospitals, a clinic for the disabled, a UN refugee centre and more.
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It is a situation of colonisation, where Palestinians are resisting the occupation of a coloniser, and therefore any act maintaining the occupation is by definition disproportionate and illegitimate. Yet it is still worth stating the latest statistics ? at the time of writing ? to show where most of the violence is coming from:
?The Israeli army has killed more than 1 283 Palestinians. According to the United Nations, approximately 80% of those killed are civilians.
?A UN agency is housing 167 269 displaced Palestinians.
?Rocket fire from Gaza has killed two Israeli civilians and a Thai migrant worker.
?About 43 Israeli soldiers have been killed in combat, all as a result of the army?s ground invasion.
?More Gazan children were killed in the first week of bombing than the total number of Israelis killed by Hamas rockets in the past 13 years.
?Israel has bombed schools, hospitals, a clinic for the disabled, a UN refugee centre and more.
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how hard can it be to just anonymously drop a nuke over that place from a stealth bomber in the dead of night a few miles from above... The day someone has the smarts to do this is the day they save the world

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UN report

http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/och...03_08_2014.pdf

Yesterday at approximately 23:00, an Israeli airstrike attacked the house of the Zoroub family, in a UNDP housing
project in Rafah, killing at least 13 family members, including seven children and three women.
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http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/och...03_08_2014.pdf

Yesterday at approximately 23:00, an Israeli airstrike attacked the house of the Zoroub family, in a UNDP housing
project in Rafah, killing at least 13 family members, including seven children and three women.
Exactly. Being one of the wanted persons in Gaza hiding in the middle of the war behind the back of his family. That's a true face of these so called "fighters"

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how hard can it be to just anonymously drop a nuke over that place from a stealth bomber in the dead of night a few miles from above... The day someone has the smarts to do this is the day they save the world
Intercontinental ballistic missile would do the trick as well
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Average Gazan Makes $2,900 Per Year ? While Hamas Leader Is Billionaire? In Qatar

The average per capita income for the people in Gaza and the West Bank is $2,900 per year according to the CIA Factbook. That means that Gaza-West Bank is listed way down on the list at 172 in the list of nations per capita income. On the other hand, Israel is ranked number 41 on the list with an average per capita income of $31,400 per year.

But, not everyone is suffering in Gaza.
Many top Hamas leaders are billionaires and millionaires.

Khaled Mashaal, the leader of Hamas, is worth an estimated $2.6 billion.


Hamas billioinaire Khaled Meshaal works out in a private gym in a fancy part of Doha, Qatar, where he lives


Together with the donations from various countries, fundraisers began operating in the US to collect money for Hamas. Here, the Hamas leaders began to get their hands on some really big money. ?One of those fundraisers was Dr. Musa Abu Marzook, the number 2 man in Hamas,? Elad says. ?At the beginning of the 1990s, he began a fundraising campaign in the US among wealthy Muslims, while at the same time founding several banking enterprises. He himself became a conglomerate of 10 financial enterprises giving loans and making financial investments. He?s an amazing financier.?

The US administration ordered Marzook?s arrest in 1995 on charges of supporting terrorism. After he spent two years in a US prison, it was decided to expel him without trial. He kept the money.
Another Hamas leader-turned-tycoon is Khaled Mashaal. ?Estimates around the world are that Mashaal is currently worth $2.6 billion, but the numbers mentioned by the Arab commentators (based on their many sources) are much higher, varying from $2-5 billion invested in Egyptian and Persian Gulf banks, and some in real estate projects in the Persian Gulf countries,? Elad adds.

So while the average lackey in Palestine is living in squalor the Hamas leaders live as kings? in Qatar.
But they care. They really care.

And you know what's really an absurd, that Israel is going to help rebuild the Gaza back since we are humans being, while your Hamas jackals learned pretty well how to use it against us.
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Islamic Jihad has much in common with Hamas, since both fight against the existence of the State of Israel. Both groups were formed as offshoots of the Muslim Brotherhood and receive a large amount of funding from Iran. With similar goals, Hamas and the PIJ have worked together on a number of projects. The PIJ has Sunni members only, promotes Islamism and Sharia law and fights to establish an Islamic state

Hamas controls Gaza sector, so any terror act coming out of there is their responsibility.

It's funny how out of hundreds of cases where Hamas claimed responsibility you pull out one and say Hamas is innocent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...uicide_attacks

What is your point here? What you are trying to say? That Hamas is not a terrorist organization? That they don't blow up buses full of children and women in Israel?

Think twice before you hit the reply button
spin...spin... spin... so you are wrong .

My point is , as for the so-called 'kidnapped' soldier not' kidnapped ', is not to lie to people to justify your actions and make those actions seemed reasonable in respect as what the 'others'did .
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spin...spin... spin... so you are wrong .

My point is , as for the so-called 'kidnapped' soldier not' kidnapped ', is not to lie to people to justify your actions and make those actions seemed reasonable in respect as what the 'others'did .
I see you just made the point out of your ass? didn't you?

If your point was about so called "kidnapped" soldier why you were talking about Hamas responsibility in a previous post?
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No ass licking is needed right now.

p.s I'm not a jew, so don't even try ;)
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And you know what's really an absurd, that Israel is going to help rebuild the Gaza back since we are humans being, while your Hamas jackals learned pretty well how to use it against us.
Israel = Human Beings

Tricked again by evil Hamas

Gaza is your prison, you knock it down and then build it up.
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Old 08-03-2014, 06:21 AM   #145
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Fuck with the bull, you get the horns. I have zero sympathy for these people.
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This really is nonsense. Set up a straw man argument. Who is supporting the war in Syria?

Who is supplying arms to Syria? The main Syrian opposition body - the Syrian coalition - receives logistic and political support from major Sunni states in the Middle East, most notably Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia. France, Britain and the US have also provided political, military and logistic support to the opposition.

Most people have tried to keep the war from spreading and oppose foreign involvement.

Israel pretends to be a European democracy, but is not in Europe and is not democratic.

It is murdering people with US and UK weapons. Again people are demanding justice for the Palestinians.
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You seem to not understand the argument or are not able to have one.

I ALREADY agreed with you about how bad Hamas is.

Why do you keep trying to convince me about how bad they are?
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You seem to not understand the argument or are not able to have one.

I ALREADY agreed with you about how bad Hamas is.

Why do you keep trying to convince me about how bad they are?
Im not trying to convience you, just showing you facts. Alright, at least one point is clear. Do tell, what would YOU do if you would be prime minister of Israel? What's the solution if these bad guys want only one thing, to destroy Israel.
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Old 08-03-2014, 11:11 PM   #150
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Palestinians Terrorists use UN Ambulance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRmYYSp0-B8
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